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Toronto Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated August 10, 2010)

smucav
06-30-2010, 07:20 PM
Tournament Name: ROGERS CUP presented by National Bank
Location: TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA
Dates: AUGUST 9-15, 2010
Prize Money: US $2,430,000
56 MAIN DRAW/28 QUALIFYING DRAW

SITE: Rexall Centre
1 Shoreham Drive, Suite 100
Toronto, Ontario, Canada – M3N 3A6
SURFACE: Hard court-Decoturf
BALL: Penn ATP
WEB SITE: www.rogerscup.com

Qualifying draw: Friday, August 6, 9:00 p.m.
Main draw: Friday, August 6, 4:00 p.m.
Doubles draw: Saturday, August 7, 6:00 p.m.

ATP Ranking Points
W: 1000
F: 600
SF: 360
QF: 180
R16: 90
R32: 45 (Seeds 1-8: 0)
R64: 10 (WC: 0)
Q: +25
Q14: 14
Q28: 0

Entry deadline: June 28, 2010
Seeding: August 2, 2010

1 Nadal, Rafael ESP 1
2 Federer, Roger SUI 2
3 Djokovic, Novak SRB 3
4 Murray, Andy GBR 4
5 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 5
6 Soderling, Robin SWE 6
OUT Roddick, Andy USA 7
OUT Del Potro, Juan Martin ARG 8
9 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 9
OUT Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried FRA 10
11 Ferrer, David ESP 11
12 Cilic, Marin CRO 12
13 Berdych, Tomas CZE 13
14 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 14
OUT Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 15
16 Nalbandian, David ARG @15
17 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 16
OUT Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP 17
19 Almagro, Nicolas ESP 18
OUT Isner, John USA 19
21 Monfils, Gael FRA 20
22 Querrey, Sam USA 21
OUT Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 22
24 Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 23
25 Bellucci, Thomaz BRA 24
26 Stepanek, Radek CZE 25
OUT Hewitt, Lleyton AUS 26
28 Baghdatis, Marcos CYP 27
OUT Monaco, Juan ARG 28
30 Gulbis, Ernests LAT 29
31 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 30
OUT Montanes, Albert ESP 31
33 Simon, Gilles FRA 32
OUT Karlovic, Ivo CRO 33
OUT Haas, Tommy USA 34
36 Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER 35
37 Robredo, Tommy ESP 36
38 Llodra, Michael FRA 37
39 Hanescu, Victor ROU 38
OUT Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 39
41 Benneteau, Julien FRA 40
42 Petzschner, Philipp GER 41
43 Troicki, Viktor SRB 42
44 Dolgopolov, Alexandr UKR 43
45 (SE) Malisse, Xavier BEL
46 (Q) Anderson, Kevin RSA
47 (Q) Lu, Yen-Hsun TPE
48 (Q) Istomin, Denis UZB
49 (Q) Nieminen, Jarkko FIN
50 (Q) Marchenko, Illya UKR
51 (Q) Russell, Michael USA
52 (Q) Fognini, Fabio ITA
53 (WC) Dancevic, Frank CAN
54 (WC) Polansky, Peter CAN
55 (WC) Raonic, Milos CAN
56 (WC) Duclos, Pierre-Ludovic CAN
(LL) Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA (replaces Roddick)
(LL) Devvarman, Somdev IND (replaces Gonzalez)

Alternates
OUT Zeballos, Horacio ARG 44
IN Tipsarevic, Janko SRB 45
IN Berrer, Michael GER 46
IN Stakhovsky, Sergiy UKR 47
IN Gasquet, Richard FRA 48
IN de Bakker, Thiemo NED 49
IN Schwank, Eduardo ARG 50
IN Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 51
IN Mayer, Leonardo ARG 52
OUT Kubot, Lukasz POL 53
IN Giraldo, Santiago COL 54
IN Chardy, Jeremy FRA 55
OUT Cuevas, Pablo URU 56
OUT Andreev, Igor RUS 57
OUT Starace, Potito ITA 58
OUT Mayer, Florian GER 59
IN Falla, Alejandro COL 60
1. Chiudinelli, Marco SUI 61
OUT Greul, Simon GER 62
2. Malisse, Xavier BEL 63
3. Serra, Florent FRA 64
4. Sela, Dudi ISR 65
5. Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 66
6. Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 67
OUT Rochus, Olivier BEL 68

Davidcuervacho
07-07-2010, 10:59 PM
Good luck David Nalbandian, Juan Monaco and Horacio Zeballos :D

ImmzB
07-19-2010, 12:54 AM
Del Potro Out

ImmzB
07-20-2010, 06:17 PM
Hope Gasquet get's in :)

DartMarcus
07-28-2010, 10:23 AM
Will Fish get a WC?

ImmzB
07-28-2010, 07:39 PM
Is Tsonga & Stepanek playing?

Blarghman
07-28-2010, 07:57 PM
Will Fish get a WC?

Are you being serious? :help:

The only time in the last decade that I can remember Tennis Canada giving a foreign WC at the men's event was Safin in '08. They rejected Ferrero last year and Ivanovic in the women's this year. So I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

As for the WC's, us Canadians on the board are pretty much unanimous that three will go to Dancevic, Polansky and Raonic. The fourth is more uncertain, though I think Pospisil will get it.

Edit: I must correct myself slightly; I remember now they were going to give a WC to Hewitt last year, but he ended up not needing it. Still, the point holds.

nalbyfan
07-31-2010, 12:14 PM
Tsonga is out of all USO road, be back after DC tie, don't know when (see l'Equipe)

Ausie
08-01-2010, 08:35 AM
maybe Nadal OUT?

Nadal to Play one masters event heading into US Open

ImmzB
08-01-2010, 04:46 PM
Will Karlovic be back for this?

hyperren
08-02-2010, 03:56 PM
Hrm. Is Del Potro still in? I thought he wouldn't be playing til USO at the earliest, and Thailand Open at the latest... Shouldn't Berrer be in, then? *confused*

Ad Wim
08-03-2010, 09:44 AM
Hrm. Is Del Potro still in? I thought he wouldn't be playing til USO at the earliest, and Thailand Open at the latest... Shouldn't Berrer be in, then? *confused*

Probably, but the tournament is not until another week. His cancellation will probably come one of these days.

Ad Wim
08-03-2010, 09:45 AM
Will Karlovic be back for this?

No, he won't. He just underwent surgery. Won't play for two months at least.

tennis fan474
08-03-2010, 09:49 AM
Will Haas play? I'm not so sure.

ImmzB
08-03-2010, 09:59 AM
Gasquet is in :yippee:

Ad Wim
08-03-2010, 10:01 AM
Don't understand why Zeballos is OUT. He is in the US already, hasn't played that much and can play a TMS on HC here! That's why he came here I guess, and skipped the late clay.
Hopefully he isn't injured...

_Chaz
08-03-2010, 10:08 AM
Don't understand why Zeballos is OUT. He is in the US already, hasn't played that much and can play a TMS on HC here! That's why he came here I guess, and skipped the late clay.
Hopefully he isn't injured...

Maybe he will get a WC to the Brasilia challenger this week. As you see, he didnīt even enter for the qualifying at Toronto so I think heīll play Brasilia.

sheva07
08-03-2010, 11:36 AM
Good to see Thiemo in MD.

B.z.A.
08-03-2010, 12:10 PM
Wtf is Ljubicic doing :S

Alvaro Quiros
08-03-2010, 08:57 PM
i really hope almagro is playing

sierra91
08-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Are you being serious? :help:

The only time in the last decade that I can remember Tennis Canada giving a foreign WC at the men's event was Safin in '08. They rejected Ferrero last year and Ivanovic in the women's this year. So I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

As for the WC's, us Canadians on the board are pretty much unanimous that three will go to Dancevic, Polansky and Raonic. The fourth is more uncertain, though I think Pospisil will get it.

Edit: I must correct myself slightly; I remember now they were going to give a WC to Hewitt last year, but he ended up not needing it. Still, the point holds.

No offense to Canadians, but this sucks!

Allez-Alejo
08-04-2010, 03:23 AM
Canadian tennis is in the tubes....I mean none of those guys are even consistently playing at the challenger level. Raonic is having a decent year but he is FAR away from ready to play at this level. I remember a few years back when Frank and Peter played in the first round and it was a joke. ONE Canadian in the draw would be more than enough.

osmonde
08-04-2010, 04:05 AM
Gasquet retired after the first set in Washington today: back problem

As for the wild card: I think those canadians should past by qualies...except maybe Dancevic, coming back from injury.
But he had to retire in his second set at Granby Challenger this week.
His thigh cutted previously was to painful to go on.
Much better players could take their spot.

Mario000
08-04-2010, 09:22 AM
I'm glad to see that delpo is still in :)

nalbyfan
08-04-2010, 01:06 PM
Will Gasquet pull out ? He retired last night in Washington (back problem)

emotion
08-04-2010, 01:16 PM
What Is Wrong With Montanes?

ibreak4coffee
08-04-2010, 01:24 PM
Canadian tennis is in the tubes....I mean none of those guys are even consistently playing at the challenger level. Raonic is having a decent year but he is FAR away from ready to play at this level. I remember a few years back when Frank and Peter played in the first round and it was a joke. ONE Canadian in the draw would be more than enough.

Yeah and four years ago Dancevic almost beat Nadal and Raonic had match points against Gonzalez last year.

I've got to disagree with you completely here. It is a bad year for Canadian tennis - most are - but this is the only tournament a Canadian can receive a wildcard in, and frankly its in Canada, sponsored largely by Canadian money, so there's nothing wrong with all wildcards going to Canadian players. British players get most of the wildcards into Wimbledon and can't win a damn thing, and no one says anything about that. And the players mentioned as possible wildcards - like Gasquet for example - have over 5 tournaments on home soil a year where they can get wildcards (and they also do things like "show up" to DC and retire 30 minutes later - great wildcard there). And US players have over 10 tournaments where they can receive wildcards. If someone like Ryan Sweeting was Canadian and not American, his ranking would probably be 200 spots lower.

Sure Polansky, Raonic - and if they give one to Pospisil - on form and talent dont deserve to play a tournament at this level. But then again neither does Donald Young, and I lost count a long time ago how many wildcards the USTA has given him - sorry, his management company.

nalbyfan
08-04-2010, 01:50 PM
Haas is out

misty1
08-04-2010, 02:53 PM
give wild cards to dancevic, and roanic thats fine but honestly peter does not deserve the wild card and nor does pospisil

i think peter should have to earn his spot in the draw, his season is terrible and it is most likely that giving a main draw wild card to him will be a complete waste. Giving a main draw wild card to posipisil would be an even bigger mistake then giving it to polansky since pospisil cant even get a win on the challenger circuit.

i dont know who you give the other 2 main draw wild cards to but they'd be wasted on polansky and pospisil

NyGeL
08-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Maybe he will get a WC to the Brasilia challenger this week. As you see, he didnīt even enter for the qualifying at Toronto so I think heīll play Brasilia.

are you sure about this?

I can't get it :S

Ad Wim
08-04-2010, 03:27 PM
What Is Wrong With Montanes?

He's done this lots of times. He doesn't care too much about HC events, not even TMSs.

misty1
08-04-2010, 03:41 PM
what about dancevic? we have him when he's healthy

MrExpos
08-04-2010, 03:43 PM
Putting Canadians in the MD sell tickets. Selling tickets = more money. Considering that the Rogers Cup is the only ATP level tournament we have here in Canada, I say give the WC to the Canadians, let them get an opportunity to win 1 or 2 matches and make some money (and points), while people come to see them play because us, Canadians, we need to have local players to have a real interest.

People from Montreal and Toronto will come out to see Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal, but over time, they won't come at the beginning of the week to see them face Igor Kunitsyn or Tobias Kamke if there's no local player and Tennis Canada needs to sell those tickets.

You also have to understand that tennis is not the most popular sports in Canada. Here, hockey is really, really big. It's in the news everyday, even in the middle of August. Tennis doesn't get that much of attention and money, so if they can generates some profit from the Rogers Cup by selling tickets with their own products (Canadians players), they have to do it.

mayagaller
08-04-2010, 03:55 PM
People from Montreal and Toronto will come out to see Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal, but over time, they won't come at the beginning of the week to see them face Igor Kunitsyn or Tobias Kamke if there's no local player and Tennis Canada needs to sell those tickets.

Funny you mention Kunitsyn. I remember last year in Montreal I showed up for his match only because he was playing a Canadian. And so did many more people so that sort of proves your point.

As a Canadian tennis fan I like to see the players we have (not that we get that many chances to see them) regardless of how bad they might be in the grand scheme of things.

_Chaz
08-04-2010, 05:18 PM
are you sure about this?

I can't get it :S

No actually not. But itīs a possibility I think as he has to defend another challenger semi and if he loses today heīll drop a few ranking positions and with losing those 27 points from Brasilia he would drop deeper.
I donīt know him but why didnīt he even enter the qualifying tournament? Iīm sure he didnīt know 3 weeks ago that he will be "injured" this week. But of course it can be that he just wants to rest a week.

Filo V.
08-04-2010, 06:02 PM
I can fully understand and support Canadians getting the WCs for a Canadian event, but Peter does NOT deserve a WC and I hope that they go young instead of him.

MrExpos
08-04-2010, 06:03 PM
I can fully understand and support Canadians getting the WCs for a Canadian event, but Peter does NOT deserve a WC and I hope that they go young instead of him.

I understand, and I agree at some point, but... who else?

156mphserve
08-04-2010, 07:54 PM
I think that all the WC's should go to canadian players. This is the one ATP tournament we host per year. We have 1 chance to throw our players a bone by giving them 10 free ranking points, a few thousand dollars and a chance to earn more. France has 5-6 ATP tournaments per year, the US has countless tournaments, and they still for the most part give out most of their WC's to American players. Players such as Fish, Blake, etc has countless tournaments they could be given WC's to but as canadians our players have only 1. It's not like it's an Alex Bogdanovic complete waste. Frank made the quarters here a few years back and almost beat Nadal. he beat Delpo, and verdasco on route to those quarters. Niemeyer beat Kunitsyn here last year and took Fed to a first set tiebreak. Peter, although he was thrown a bone first round last year competed very well against Djokovic in the 2nd round and if I remember correctly he had a set point in the 2nd set? And we all remember Raonic coming through qualies and almost beating Gonzalez and he really should have won that. Sure qualies gave him comfedence to do well against Fernando but he proved he can compete against top players. Sure they're not playing their best tennis right now(0/6 in Vancouver:o) but they can get hot in 1 week and possibly change their lives. Can anyone here remember how Raonic did the week before he played the Rogers Cup last year? I can't but I bet you he wasn't on fire, winning match after match. Give em' a chance to showcase the talent they have. A lot of canadians who go to watch this only go for the canadians, and will lose interest if there's only 1 canadian. I would give the 4 Wildcards to Dancevic, Raonic, Polansky, and Bester. I wouldn't waste one on Pospisil, let him prove he can do something in challengers first, bester is playing rather well at the moment so I think he deserves it more

_Chaz
08-04-2010, 07:56 PM
WCs donīt get any points for a 1st round loss. Just look for example at Murrayīs ranking breakdown (Monte-Carlo is a 0 pointer).

156mphserve
08-04-2010, 08:02 PM
ok, didn't know that sorry, but they still get thrown a bone with the money and they still have a chance to win some ranking points

mayagaller
08-04-2010, 08:04 PM
Main draw WCs: Dancevic, Polansky, Duclos and Raonic.

_Chaz
08-04-2010, 08:04 PM
ok, didn't know that sorry, but they still get thrown a bone with the money and they still have a chance to win some ranking points
Yeah.
I also think the WCīs should go to Canadian players. But maybe just 3 should go to Canadians and the other one to a well-known player I would say.

Edit: just copy my question again, Iīm not sure everybody reads this question being on site 3
I have a question about the SEīs.
Can the tournament director decide if he gives a SE to a player or does he has to give the SE if a player canīt play the qualifyings?
For example, Kamke plays this week at Vancouver challenger and is now also in in the qualifying for Toronto. If he reaches the semifinals, would he be in for sure at Toronto or is the director allowed to decide?
And do these SEīs just count for ATP tournaments the week before (like Anderson got a SE for LA after being in the semifinals of Atlanta the week before) or also for challengers?

misty1
08-04-2010, 08:16 PM
Main draw WCs: Dancevic, Polansky, Duclos and Raonic.

dancevic and roanic were expected

polanksy confuses me because he has done NOTHING this season so he should have been made to qualify, i dont care if he is the canadian # 1

duclos is completely out of left field

156mphserve
08-04-2010, 08:19 PM
Duclos is a better Wc than Pospisil. I still think Bester should have got it though

ibreak4coffee
08-04-2010, 08:22 PM
dancevic and roanic were expected

polanksy confuses me because he has done NOTHING this season so he should have been made to qualify, i dont care if he is the canadian # 1

duclos is completely out of left field

Polansky gets the WC for playing Davis Cup.

Weird PL Duclos got one this year in Ontario but not last year in Quebec...

misty1
08-04-2010, 08:22 PM
any of the other canadians are better wild cards then pospisil

but duclos really suprises me because he hasnt really done much more than pospisil

i thought, if they really wanted to give the wild card to a 4th canadian then they would have taken a shot with diez or bester

Jomp1
08-04-2010, 09:19 PM
maybe Nadal OUT?

Where is that quote coming from?

Alvaro Quiros
08-04-2010, 09:33 PM
Where is that quote coming from?

no. he confirmed today in the spanish press that he would play ;)

RogerExpress
08-04-2010, 10:08 PM
Yeah.
I also think the WCīs should go to Canadian players. But maybe just 3 should go to Canadians and the other one to a well-known player I would say.

Edit: just copy my question again, Iīm not sure everybody reads this question being on site 3
I have a question about the SEīs.
Can the tournament director decide if he gives a SE to a player or does he has to give the SE if a player canīt play the qualifyings?
For example, Kamke plays this week at Vancouver challenger and is now also in in the qualifying for Toronto. If he reaches the semifinals, would he be in for sure at Toronto or is the director allowed to decide?
And do these SEīs just count for ATP tournaments the week before (like Anderson got a SE for LA after being in the semifinals of Atlanta the week before) or also for challengers?

As I know to be able to receive a SE for a tournament the player must be playing in the previous week a tournament of the same level or higher (and obviously reach an instance that doesn't allow him to play qualies of the next tournament). So Kamke is not eligible to receive SE for Toronto, anyway there are some special cases I don't understand, for example this week a player who reachs semis in Washington could use SE to enter Toronto although this one is a 1000 and Washington a 500

Blarghman
08-04-2010, 10:38 PM
Duclos :eek: Quite surprised at that, especially as he was in Beijing instead of Vancouver. Surely the WC was there for Vasek if he had managed to do anything at challenger level, but he's still floundering and didn't deserve the spot.

The four Canadian WC debate comes up again, as it did last year. I maintain that Tennis Canada is making the right choice in choosing 4 Canadians, or, 3 Canadians and a big name (ie. Safin, Hewitt). Canadian fans want to see and cheer for Canadian players, and it's those fans that they serve and that pay for tickets.

Would it be better if we had a higher standard of play, and better chances at wins? Of course. But I still support the decision, because I want our guys to get the chance at a result. I think the ideal, for me, would be to establish some form of bilateral WC-agreement with another 1000 event, to exchange one WC like we see in the Grand Slams, but I think the chances of that are virtually nil.

156mphserve
08-04-2010, 10:54 PM
good point Blarghman, I was going to mention a 1000 WC trade agreement but it must have slipped my mind. it would make perfect sense to me to trade 1 WC spot with Cincinnati, or maybe even 2. That way Canada's best player will get back to back chances to do well in a 100 event:)

Aenea
08-04-2010, 11:04 PM
As I know to be able to receive a SE for a tournament the player must be playing in the previous week a tournament of the same level or higher (and obviously reach an instance that doesn't allow him to play qualies of the next tournament). So Kamke is not eligible to receive SE for Toronto, anyway there are some special cases I don't understand, for example this week a player who reachs semis in Washington could use SE to enter Toronto although this one is a 1000 and Washington a 500

from the Rulebook

"7.10 Special Exempts (SE)
A. Eligibility
Players may receive a special exempt into the main draw of the following week's tournament
if they meet the criteria.
1) A player is eligible to receive a special exempt into the singles main draw of the
following week's tournament, subject to the provisions of this section, if he is
unable to compete in that qualifying competition because he is still competing on
the date the qualifying competition begins in another qualified event, and his current
ranking as of the date of the entry deadline would not have otherwise qualified
him as a direct acceptance on the original acceptance list if he had entered.
In addition, a player who is still playing a match at 9 p.m. on Friday (the qualifying
competition sign-in deadline) is eligible to receive a special exempt only if he wins
that match.
a) A qualified event for special exempt to a ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament
is the singles event of another ATP World Tour Masters 1000 or ATP World
Tour 500 tournament.
b) A Qualified event for special exempt to an ATP ATP World Tour 500 tournament
is the singles event of another ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World Tour Masters
1000 tournament.
c) A Qualified event for special exempt to an ATP World Tour 250 tournament is
the singles event of any ATP World Tour 250, ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World
Tour Masters 1000 tournament.
d) A Qualified event for special exempt to a ATP Challenger Tour tournament is the
singles event of an ATP World Tour or ATP Challenger Tour tournament within
the same geographic region, unless there are no Challengers in the same region
the following week. If there are no Challengers in the same region the following
week, then a qualified event would include all ATP Challenger Tour events
scheduled in the following week, regardless of region. (Definition of Regions
can be found in Exhibit Q).
e) EXCEPTION: A player who has entered and been accepted into the qualifying
draw of an ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament
and has been withdrawn because he is still competing, will be added to the last
position on the special exempt list of a ATP Challenger Tour tournament scheduled
for the next week, even though he would have been a direct acceptance,
had he entered the Challenger."

Sonja1989
08-05-2010, 12:18 AM
How about with Gulbis? Is he injury?

Chip_s_m
08-05-2010, 02:31 AM
Yeah and four years ago Dancevic almost beat Nadal and Raonic had match points against Gonzalez last year.

I've got to disagree with you completely here. It is a bad year for Canadian tennis - most are - but this is the only tournament a Canadian can receive a wildcard in, and frankly its in Canada, sponsored largely by Canadian money, so there's nothing wrong with all wildcards going to Canadian players. British players get most of the wildcards into Wimbledon and can't win a damn thing, and no one says anything about that. And the players mentioned as possible wildcards - like Gasquet for example - have over 5 tournaments on home soil a year where they can get wildcards (and they also do things like "show up" to DC and retire 30 minutes later - great wildcard there). And US players have over 10 tournaments where they can receive wildcards. If someone like Ryan Sweeting was Canadian and not American, his ranking would probably be 200 spots lower.

Sure Polansky, Raonic - and if they give one to Pospisil - on form and talent dont deserve to play a tournament at this level. But then again neither does Donald Young, and I lost count a long time ago how many wildcards the USTA has given him - sorry, his management company.

Sweeting has only taken two WC's this year into ATP-level tournaments: Roland Garros and LA, both of which he won in a shootout. He's had to qualify for the other 5 ATP-level event he's played. Collectively, Roland Garros and LA account for only 20 of his 436 ranking points (4.6%). Had he not received these wildcards (and assuming he wouldn't have earned points at these tournaments via qualies), his ranking would be...wait for it...exactly where it is now (119). These points would've been replaced by his results at Atlanta and IW qualies, the points total of which equals 20 points.

And as for Young, it's not like accepting all those WCs and losing in the first round really accelerated his career. I would argue the exact opposite, actually.

Too much of a fuss is made over WC's. The best players will work their way up the rankings regardless of how many they receive. Funding, on the other hand, that definitely can affect one's career trajectory (and yes, 1st round prize money can play a role in that). That said, most of the young American players who are offered WCs into ATP and Challenger main draws are likely good enough prospects that they've signed a lucrative deal or are receiving financial assistance from the USTA for coaching and travel costs anyways.

WCs don't have much to do with the status of Canadian tennis. You guys lack a top player because:

A) The population is small
B) Tennis isn't too popular, especially compared to other sports
C) Tennis can be somewhat expensive to play since you have to be indoors for a decent part of the year
D) Lack of funds? (I doubt it but I don't know that state of the Canadian Tennis Association)
E) Lack of good coaching? (Again, I don't know if this is true)

You guys will get someone eventually. Dancevic certainly looked like he would break through there for a while. When you do get a top player, though, it won't be because he got a WC into your tournament. It'll be because they were good enough to beat top players. If that player gets a WC into Toronto/Montreal and wins a few matches and then goes on to have a great career that's awesome. But do you really think that if that player is good enough to beat top 50 players then he wouldn't have been able to beat a few top 250 players in a couple challenger events had he not received the WC?

ibreak4coffee
08-05-2010, 05:27 AM
WCs don't have much to do with the status of Canadian tennis. You guys lack a top player because:

A) The population is small
B) Tennis isn't too popular, especially compared to other sports
C) Tennis can be somewhat expensive to play since you have to be indoors for a decent part of the year
D) Lack of funds? (I doubt it but I don't know that state of the Canadian Tennis Association)
E) Lack of good coaching? (Again, I don't know if this is true)

You guys will get someone eventually. Dancevic certainly looked like he would break through there for a while. When you do get a top player, though, it won't be because he got a WC into your tournament. It'll be because they were good enough to beat top players. If that player gets a WC into Toronto/Montreal and wins a few matches and then goes on to have a great career that's awesome. But do you really think that if that player is good enough to beat top 50 players then he wouldn't have been able to beat a few top 250 players in a couple challenger events had he not received the WC?

All your points are valid except the first one. Australia has 10 million less people than Canada, Belgium and the Czech Republic 20 million less, Sweden 25 million less, Switzerland 28 million less etc... yet these countries consistently produce world class players.

No a wildcard itself will not be the determining factor of launching the career of one of these guys. But they cant hurt these guys - they are more useful to give out to local talent trying to win ranking points and prize money than handing them out to aging past their prime superstars. As mentioned also, they sell tickets to local fans who want Canadians participating. And unlike say Donald Young, these guys only have one shot to play a tournament like this instead of getting wildcards week in, week out. The positives far outweigh the negatives.

Ausie
08-05-2010, 06:23 AM
Hewitt out? calf muscle injury

RogerExpress
08-05-2010, 11:28 AM
from the Rulebook

"7.10 Special Exempts (SE)
A. Eligibility
Players may receive a special exempt into the main draw of the following week's tournament
if they meet the criteria.
1) A player is eligible to receive a special exempt into the singles main draw of the
following week's tournament, subject to the provisions of this section, if he is
unable to compete in that qualifying competition because he is still competing on
the date the qualifying competition begins in another qualified event, and his current
ranking as of the date of the entry deadline would not have otherwise qualified
him as a direct acceptance on the original acceptance list if he had entered.
In addition, a player who is still playing a match at 9 p.m. on Friday (the qualifying
competition sign-in deadline) is eligible to receive a special exempt only if he wins
that match.
a) A qualified event for special exempt to a ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament
is the singles event of another ATP World Tour Masters 1000 or ATP World
Tour 500 tournament.
b) A Qualified event for special exempt to an ATP ATP World Tour 500 tournament
is the singles event of another ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World Tour Masters
1000 tournament.
c) A Qualified event for special exempt to an ATP World Tour 250 tournament is
the singles event of any ATP World Tour 250, ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World
Tour Masters 1000 tournament.
d) A Qualified event for special exempt to a ATP Challenger Tour tournament is the
singles event of an ATP World Tour or ATP Challenger Tour tournament within
the same geographic region, unless there are no Challengers in the same region
the following week. If there are no Challengers in the same region the following
week, then a qualified event would include all ATP Challenger Tour events
scheduled in the following week, regardless of region. (Definition of Regions
can be found in Exhibit Q).
e) EXCEPTION: A player who has entered and been accepted into the qualifying
draw of an ATP World Tour 500 or ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournament
and has been withdrawn because he is still competing, will be added to the last
position on the special exempt list of a ATP Challenger Tour tournament scheduled
for the next week, even though he would have been a direct acceptance,
had he entered the Challenger."

Thanks, basically they consider ATP 500 at the same level than Masters 1000 for this rule

ImmzB
08-05-2010, 11:33 AM
Gasquet is likely to play Toronto.

tennis fan474
08-05-2010, 11:50 AM
Is Juan Monaco fit?

Ad Wim
08-05-2010, 11:54 AM
Del Potro, Monaco, Haas are certainly pulling out. And there are lots of doubtful players as well: Gonzalez, Hewitt, Gulbis, Monfils, Ferrero. What a season...

misty1
08-05-2010, 12:15 PM
so all of them out plus ferrer

davydenko,kohlschreiber,youzhny and simon playing like crap

roddick playing sub-par

berdych, stepanek, federer,wawrinka,soderling and nadal either having not played a match at all or hardly been on court

..oh yes this will be a great rogers cup

soulage
08-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Del Potro, Monaco, Haas are certainly pulling out. And there are lots of doubtful players as well: Gonzalez, Hewitt, Gulbis, Monfils, Ferrero. What a season...
Monfils will play he flyes to Toronto today. For the others i don't know but strange that's some players withdraw late like Del Potro who knows that he won't play but still not withdraw :confused:

Puschkin
08-05-2010, 12:33 PM
..oh yes this will be a great rogers cup
Don't complain before it has even started. ;)

Ad Wim
08-05-2010, 12:44 PM
so all of them out plus ferrer

davydenko,kohlschreiber,youzhny and simon playing like crap

roddick playing sub-par

berdych, stepanek, federer,wawrinka,soderling and nadal either having not played a match at all or hardly been on court

..oh yes this will be a great rogers cup

Ferrer's not OUT, he will most likely play.

And still we have a good tournament to look forward to I think. It's just amazing how many withdrawals there are this year.

Ausie
08-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Ferrero,Monaco - OUT

osmonde
08-05-2010, 06:49 PM
How about with Gulbis? Is he injury?

Gulbis is not injured but suffered heat problem in Washington and went to hospital after retiring in 2nd set.
No news if he will be ok for Toronto, but probably so.

roberthenman
08-05-2010, 08:58 PM
:banana: Leito in and wc to Polansky ....nice tournament :D

Snowwy
08-05-2010, 09:23 PM
Good choices, some clowns here really, how can you not give a WC to the Canadian #1? Especially since he was very good here last year. Clueless posters really.

misty1
08-05-2010, 09:41 PM
he got to the 2nd round because he beat another canadian player

peter hasnt done anything this year to deserve one. The wild cards would have been fine with dancevic, raonic and duclos and let peter qualify

and really peter is only the canadian number one by rank, he's# 3 at best in terms of talent

Sonja1989
08-05-2010, 11:22 PM
Gulbis is not injured but suffered heat problem in Washington and went to hospital after retiring in 2nd set.
No news if he will be ok for Toronto, but probably so.

Thanks, I hope he will ready in Toronto. :confused:

Snowwy
08-05-2010, 11:32 PM
he got to the 2nd round because he beat another canadian player

peter hasnt done anything this year to deserve one. The wild cards would have been fine with dancevic, raonic and duclos and let peter qualify

and really peter is only the canadian number one by rank, he's# 3 at best in terms of talent

Huh? Duclos over Peter?

Why?

Peter on the year is 14-13 on the challenger tour.
Duclos is 9-11 on the challenger tour.

I'm for wildcards to both of them, but can you explain why PLD would ever get one over PP?

Ausie
08-06-2010, 06:25 AM
Hewitt OUT

DUN I LOVE
08-06-2010, 07:46 AM
Hewitt OUT

Source?

Ausie
08-06-2010, 07:47 AM
Source?
Lleyton's web site

http://www.lleytonandbechewitt.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=294&Itemid=29

P Picasso
08-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Nadal and Djokovic are playing Doubles together ... First time since ???? that the world nr 1 and 2 play Doubles together :):eek::eek::worship::wavey:

tennis fan474
08-06-2010, 05:19 PM
Livestream of the Draw ceremony will be available on http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/ .

GasquetGulbis
08-06-2010, 08:04 PM
Where exactly do you find the livestream on the website

emotion
08-06-2010, 08:06 PM
http://www.lovemeansnothing.ca/media/lmn-tv/watch-live

Allez-Alejo
08-06-2010, 08:14 PM
Clueless posters? Clueless is anyone who thinks running these guys out there every year is good for them...clearly it has not worked.

tennis fan474
08-06-2010, 08:27 PM
Isner is OUT

harman99
08-06-2010, 09:06 PM
Isner is OUT

Why?

Allez-Alejo
08-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Why?

He is not in great shape.

V.H.
08-08-2010, 06:48 PM
WTF, Federer is No. 3, not 2 o.O

And why did Golubev, Lu, Istomin and Nieminen (all top 60) have to play Qualifying? While the 60th rank was cut-off.

ZackBusner
08-08-2010, 06:55 PM
It's because entry lists are made six weeks before the start of the tournament.

V.H.
08-08-2010, 06:57 PM
It's because entry lists are made six weeks before the start of the tournament.

All tournaments?

ZackBusner
08-08-2010, 07:32 PM
All tournaments?

For chalengers (and I think futures as well), it's four weeks.