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Is Henman an overachiever?

LiZpHaIr
09-09-2004, 10:59 PM
I heard a commentator at US Open say that Tim has exceeded the results that his talent allowed. I think this is a load of Bullshit. I think Tim has a great game that should have won him at least a Wimbledon title.


What do you think?

england_rules
09-09-2004, 11:05 PM
I heard a commentator at US Open say that Tim has exceeded the results that his talent allowed. I think this is a load of Bullshit. I think Tim has a great game that should have won him at least a Wimbledon title.


What do you think?
Yeah, Patrick Macenroe said that! He's an idiot! Henman has had a great career don't get me wrong, but he's slam champion material! A lot more talented than Roddick but that's just the way it is! I really think that Macenroe should apologize for saying that because to say that Henman isn't talented is just wrong and rude! He's just jealous because he didn't have the career of Henman!

joeb_uk
09-09-2004, 11:13 PM
sure, i suppose half of his usa players like fish are more talented than tim? he sure likes to suck his american players

Crazy_Fool
09-09-2004, 11:20 PM
No, he's an underachiever ;)

And yeah he is more talented than Roddick(who in the top 10 isn't), but then he doesn't have the mentality of the really top players.

Goenitz_196
09-09-2004, 11:40 PM
His serve is the one major weakness he has. If he had a big serve like Sampras, I honestly think he would have a few GS titles by now.

joeb_uk
09-10-2004, 12:03 AM
yep, thats what he is missing most

Éowyn
09-10-2004, 12:08 AM
yay for patrick mcenroe sorry i think tim is a good player but when you say "at least wimbledon" look at people in the past who have won wimbledon connors, perry, becker, sampras, agassi now be honest can you honestly say that tim deserves to be in the same list as them? i think not!

BaselineSmash
09-10-2004, 12:11 AM
Mcenroe is an..idiot.

(From his most recent interview (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/20040908.html), which was on the usopen.org website.)

Q. Do you have any intelligence on the...

PATRICK McENROE: No, I have no intelligence. You know that, Charlie.


PROBLEM SOLVED PEOPLE!

WyveN
09-10-2004, 01:19 AM
I think Tim has reached his potential. His got a good top 10 type of game but would need some major breaks to beat the very best players that would enable him to win a grand slam.
People say he deserved to win Wimbledon but his only real opportunity was in 2001 against Ivanisevic and unfortunately for him luck wasn't on his side with the weather and Tim will certainly need a lot of luck to break through to a slam final eventually.

But maybe this is the new Tim, we will see on Saturday.

pinky
09-10-2004, 01:35 AM
This is total bullshit... and anyway, before calling someone an overachiever, the so called overachiever should have at least achieved something big, like a slam or a no.1 rank, shouldn't he!?

Pat Mac is certainly an overachiever in terms of media... he shouldn't have gone higher than eating popcorn and criticizing players in front of his TV at home! :)

Fergie
09-10-2004, 01:42 AM
Tim has the game, but not the mentality ... I think that he will never win a GS :rolleyes:

AgassiFan
09-10-2004, 03:23 AM
Yeah, Patrick Macenroe said that! He's an idiot!!

I know it's in vogue to hate everything America/American, but come on. Mac is just your typical former star-jock with an average intelligence and above average charisma. Makes colorful and occasionally insightful observations that an average fan can understand. Nothing more, nothing less.

That said, Henman is not an overachiever, nor is he an underachiever; if he had been born 10 years earlier, he would have been a star in the 80's in the Edberg mold, but unfortunately, the 90's game was too fast and too power-oriented for him to be anything more than a Top 10/15 player. Good grass-court specialist.

A lot more talented than Roddick but that's just the way it is!

Now that's just silly. Very silly.

He's just jealous because he didn't have the career of Henman!

Are you retarded?

|-Safin_Coria-|
09-10-2004, 03:55 AM
i hate McEnroe.......he needs to shove it.....:tape:
apology to Henman would be splendid! but that's not going to happen -- i wish Henman would win Wimbledon before he retires :unsure:

Fedex
09-10-2004, 03:59 AM
I think he has underachieved. He has the game, but he needs the big serve, like a Federer or Roddick serve to make the break through. Mentality has also been an issuse too. (aka RG SF VS. Coria) His serve is still improving, but he needs a big weapon likea serve to win a major. You just cant win a major today, with just finesse

Mechlan
09-10-2004, 07:33 AM
Until recently, his serve and groundies weren't enough of a weapon and were simply not consistent enough to win him that GS. That, and his dubious mental toughness. Yes, he could have done it if things had fallen into place for him for 2 weeks, but his best surface throughout his career just so happened to also be the favorite surface of the best ever tennis player. Frankly, lesser players than him have won, so by that token, he does deserve one. But if he does win, he's going to have to earn it; no one's going to give it to him.

BTW, BaselineSmash, I noted that when I read the interview, too. What a great quote! :p

2Tough4Men
09-10-2004, 07:41 AM
Are you retarded?

I think PatMac's career doesn't stand up well to Henman's at all.

Ballbuster
09-10-2004, 11:30 PM
*sigh* leave the PMac hating outta here.

I agree with him. When most of the say.. top twenty play well, they will beat Henman fairly easily. He really lacks the big weapons for a guy who has 11 titles, six grand slam semis and four TMS finals

AgassiFan
09-10-2004, 11:36 PM
I think PatMac's career doesn't stand up well to Henman's at all.

Johnny Mac, not Patrick.

Trent
09-10-2004, 11:44 PM
How the hell can you be an overachiever? If you win you deserve to. If you're not good enough, you won't win, simple enough.

Crazy_Fool
09-10-2004, 11:47 PM
How the hell can you be an overachiever? If you win you deserve to. If you're not good enough, you won't win, simple enough.
That actually isn't true. So Rios was not an underachiever then?

england_rules
09-11-2004, 12:26 AM
Johnny Mac, not Patrick.
Patrick MacEnroe said it not John. I know John was way better than Henman! So you're the retard obviously! :rolleyes: