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WWW Berdych vs. Soderling RG SF

Johnny Groove
06-01-2010, 06:48 PM
Well?

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-01-2010, 06:49 PM
soderling in 4, 6-4 4-6 6-2 6-3

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 06:49 PM
You can put your life on Berdych in this match . If someone loses I am giving my life to him

Thanos
06-01-2010, 06:50 PM
tennis wins

MalwareDie
06-01-2010, 06:50 PM
Robin Soderling in 3 or 4.

ReturnWinner
06-01-2010, 06:51 PM
Too much power in this match, It could go to five sets and I think Toad will win.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
Tennis wins. Tomas in 5.

peribsen
06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
Soderling in 4.

Chiakifug
06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
Soddy in 3.

azinna
06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
Egads. Two Rafa-killers in the semis now....either one may end up reworking the common wisdom on how to play on clay.

My feeling is that Soderling's got the steadier nerves, greater self-belief, better able to shrug off any setbacks...

HDW
06-01-2010, 06:53 PM
Soder in 4

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-01-2010, 06:53 PM
Really cant say, both play the same, have the same attitude.

Iván
06-01-2010, 06:54 PM
Berdych is on total fire, playing to max potential

i cant see how soderling wins this

Geo
06-01-2010, 06:55 PM
should be a great match :cool: Berdych is on fire, but so is Soderling and I can't predict what will happen :spit: it could be a 1 sided win for either player or a long tough match :lol: :shrug: I just hope the winner here wins RG :rocker:

philosophicalarf
06-01-2010, 06:56 PM
Soderling 6-4 h2h, 1-1 on clay.

However, if you ignore Berdy's win in Miami this year (hot+humid = Sod always collapses), Sod had 4 wins in a row, and 6 of the previous 7 .... the sole loss being the slow clay of Monte Carlo (QFs 2007).


Edit.....

Tomas Berdych Sony Ericsson Open - Miami 02/04/2010 1/2 Slow/low hard 6-2 6-2
Robin Soderling Proton Malaysian Open - Kuala Lumpur 01/10/2009 1/4 Slow/low I.hard 6-2 6-2
Robin Soderling Sunrise Challenger 22/03/2009 Final Slow hard 6-1 6-1
Robin Soderling Gerry Weber Open - Halle 11/06/2008 Second Grass 6-2 7-5
Robin Soderling ARAG World Team Championship - Dusseldorf 20/05/2008 Robin Fast clay 6-4 1-6 6-3
Tomas Berdych Masters Series Monte-Carlo - Monte Carlo 20/04/2007 1/4 Slow clay 5-7 6-3 6-0
Robin Soderling Stockholm Open - Stockholm 13/10/2006 1/4 Midspeed I.hard 6-2 6-3
Robin Soderling Western & Southern Financial Group Masters - Cincinnati 15/08/2006 First Fast Deco 6-4 6-3
Tomas Berdych ABN/AMRO World Tennis Tournament - Rotterdam 14/02/2005 First Mid/fast I.hard 7-5 6-2
Tomas Berdych Tatra Banka Open 2003 - Bratislava 04/11/2003 First Mid/fast I.hard (sampsize) 7-6(3) 7-5

scarecrows
06-01-2010, 06:56 PM
I prefer Berdych but Soderling surely has more chances against Nadal in the final

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 06:56 PM
Guys are you serious ???????? BERDYCH WILL WIN . 100000000000000000000000000000000 %

nanoman
06-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Soderling I hope. I give him more chance to beat Nadal.

gulzhan
06-01-2010, 06:59 PM
5-setter! :rocker2: Berdych should win, I think.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Berdych's biggest problem here will be his 1st serve consistency, I feel if he is to have any shot he needs to keep a high percentage.

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 07:00 PM
Tomas Berdych. People are going to say Soderling after what happened today, but I don't see it happening.

Bagelicious
06-01-2010, 07:00 PM
should be a great match :cool: Berdych is on fire, but so is Soderling and I can't predict what will happen :spit: it could be a 1 sided win for either player or a long tough match :lol: :shrug: I just hope the winner here wins RG :rocker:

This. Berdych is on song and Soderling today was just... wow! All I hope is that whoever wins this semi wins the tournament.

I'd prefer Berdych to win, but I think Soderling may have the edge in this match, as well as a better chance in a final vs. Nadal. I say Sodapop in 5.

Bilbo
06-01-2010, 07:00 PM
R. Soderling in 4

doublebackhand
06-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Soderling of course, its a repeat of last year run. His confidence is sky high and he has the experience this year to make it one step further. Its Berd's first semi final.

shawshank
06-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Can you imagine that these two played in the final of Sunrise challenger in 2009? Amazing :)

federernadalfan
06-01-2010, 07:04 PM
easy. if sod plays like today
straight sets over birdman

Johnny Groove
06-01-2010, 07:06 PM
Hopefully Soderling so we can get the rematch everyone wants in the final.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 07:06 PM
Can you imagine that these two played in the final of Sunrise challenger in 2009? Amazing :)
:haha: :haha: :haha: I feel sick even thinking about that! :haha: :haha: :haha:

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 07:13 PM
Ok guys . Now for real . Who will win ?

Priam
06-01-2010, 07:18 PM
I have a feeling Berdych will win in 5. It will be an interesting match for sure.

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 07:19 PM
I have a feeling Berdych will win in 5. It will be an interesting match for sure.

Finally somebody with both legs on the ground

enigma
06-01-2010, 07:20 PM
Tennis wins. soda in 3.

TheBoiledEgg
06-01-2010, 07:20 PM
how the f*** did the Toad turn a 3-5 RG record into a 14-6 in last 2 yrs

freaky

slicekick
06-01-2010, 07:21 PM
Sodie in 4

Gift Collector
06-01-2010, 07:23 PM
Soderlings serves and ground strokes are slightly better then Berdych so Soderling in 4

vn01
06-01-2010, 07:25 PM
Berdych in 3,or Soderling in 4/5

Il Primo Uomo
06-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Berdych.

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 07:29 PM
Soderlings serves and ground strokes are slightly better then Berdych so Soderling in 4

IMO, Soderling has more power, Berdych has cleaner ground strokes and places his serve better, and moves better. It's like even to me.

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 07:31 PM
One more chance guys . Berdych will win

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 07:31 PM
Looking on it as a whole:

Movement - Berdych
Serve - Soderling
Backhand - Soderling
Forehand - Berdych
Volleys - Soderling
Smash - Berdych
Mentality - Soderling
Defence - Berdych
Power - Soderling
Return - Berdych

Or something like that.

ShotmaKer
06-01-2010, 07:31 PM
Berdych was playing real good too. so let's not write him off already. either way, good for the tennis. hope the winner takes it all.

Topspin Forehand
06-01-2010, 07:34 PM
I hope Berdych wins but I don't see it happening. Soderling in 4.

Priam
06-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Was Robin's knee acting up in the Fed match? It's probably just me. Either player going through is good for tennis.

Chiakifug
06-01-2010, 07:36 PM
Tomas Berdych. People are going to say Soderling after what happened today, but I don't see it happening.

People would have said Soderling no matter who he'd just beat.

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 07:38 PM
People would have said Soderling no matter who he'd just beat.
Well, those people are wrong. I am beyond sure Berdych will win. More sure than I was with the Soderling-Federer result. Berdych is going to make Robin uncomfortable and I don't think he will find an answer or plan B.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 07:39 PM
Well, those people are wrong. I am beyond sure Berdych will win. More sure than I was with the Soderling-Federer result. Berdych is going to make Robin uncomfortable and I don't think he will find an answer or plan B.
Just like he did in Miami? ;)

Chiakifug
06-01-2010, 07:40 PM
Well, those people are wrong. I am beyond sure Berdych will win. More sure than I was with the Soderling-Federer result. Berdych is going to make Robin uncomfortable and I don't think he will find an answer or plan B.

:spit:

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 07:41 PM
Just like he did in Miami? ;)
Exactly like in Miami. People tend to forget that match was not too long ago. The Soderking bandwagon is rolling, but Berdych has been playing amazing, and he's not going to play crap like Roger.

rafa_maniac
06-01-2010, 07:45 PM
Why do I get this funny feeling Soda is going to suffer a serious come-done after that amazing match and lose to Berdych in 3 or 4 sets? I'd prefer Toad won because I want a rematch with Rafa in the final, but I say Berdych wins.

Mjau!
06-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Exactly like in Miami. People tend to forget that match was not too long ago. The Soderking bandwagon is rolling, but Berdych has been playing amazing, and he's not going to play crap like Roger.

Robin was injured in Miami

Orka_n
06-01-2010, 07:50 PM
Soda in 3, or 4 if he's nervous at the start like today.

Getta
06-01-2010, 07:50 PM
I prefer Berdych but Soderling surely has more chances against Nadal in the final

:lol:

so, whom will you root for?

Puschkin
06-01-2010, 07:52 PM
:shrug: two ball-bashers.

Sunset of Age
06-01-2010, 07:53 PM
The two players that have impressed me most of all during this tournament so far... it's hard to tell. I give Sod the upper hand, because of his experience on this level by now. But - if he fails to get his serve working, like in today's match against Fed, and it goes on like that for just a bit too long, Birdman will surely have a good chance.

In any case, Soderling will have more difficulty to dispatch Berdych, than he had today to pull the trigger on Fed. ;)

Jomp1
06-01-2010, 07:58 PM
Experience might be the biggest factor. Soderling is although glad to finally beat Federer here to win, while Tomas is extremely happy just to reach the semis. But I guess we'll find out about that. It's hard to read into the Murray and Youhnzy wins even if straight sets always tell you something.

Robin could hardly move in Miami but that match could still mean something for Berdy heading into this. Both players will play with unbelievable confidence so this bodes for a really good one.

BK123
06-01-2010, 07:58 PM
Berdych in 3 just so he can reach the final without losing a set.

But, realistically, I think in 4 with him losing the 3rd set.

andylovesaustin
06-01-2010, 08:05 PM
The way he's playing right now, I think Sodapop would like nothing better to POTENTIALLY meet Rafa in the final to prove he wasn't joking last year! Of course, Rafa has to get there first!

So I'm gonna say Sodapop in 4.

paseo
06-01-2010, 08:07 PM
Soderling in 3. Head case Berdych will show up here.

born_on_clay
06-01-2010, 08:10 PM
really I don't care
Soderling in 5

Etern
06-01-2010, 08:11 PM
I have had the feeling that Berdych plays in the zone the whole tournament. I don't know if it's because his matches been easy and I haven't been as nervouse during his matches as in Robins but for me he has been super. I like both of them but I hope Söderling will make it. For the result I must admit I have no idea, my head says Berdych but I hope it's because I have not been able to enjoy Söderlings game (since I have been to nervous) and not anything else.

Most of all I feel sorry for the balls in this match, they will be really hurt.

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 08:11 PM
Robin was injured in Miami
True, so let's put that to the side.

I think overall, Berdych can return Robin's serve and keep it deep off the return, which will put Soderking in uncomfortable situations. Also, I don't think Robin will have the time to execute his shots and will end up making errors, because Berdych has a heavy shot that is hard to attack. Also, quite frankly, Berdych is better than Roger at this point in turning defense into offense, Tomas can move pretty well and if he keeps one extra ball in play, Robin can spray the errors.

zerocool_
06-01-2010, 08:14 PM
One more chance guys . Berdych will win

Ok we get it, Berdych gona win.. If you are so sure put all money you got on him, you can't lose, right ? ;)

andylovesaustin
06-01-2010, 08:19 PM
True, so let's put that to the side.

I think overall, Berdych can return Robin's serve and keep it deep off the return, which will put Soderking in uncomfortable situations. Also, I don't think Robin will have the time to execute his shots and will end up making errors, because Berdych has a heavy shot that is hard to attack. Also, quite frankly, Berdych is better than Roger at this point in turning defense into offense, Tomas can move pretty well and if he keeps one extra ball in play, Robin can spray the errors.

Yeah... unforced errors he had today is one big hesitation I had.

The stats v Roger indicated Roger had a cleaner game today, but Sodapop was just a beast with the winners. He also said, he really liked the conditions... the rain,etc., because it gave him time to set-up...

I'm still picking Sodapop mainly because he's made it to the finals before. I mean.. he knows how to get to the finals at the FO in other words, and he might not be satisfed with just making it to the semis. I think he still might be able to pull-of those winners if he's on a mission..

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Cheaterling in 4.

andylovesaustin
06-01-2010, 08:22 PM
Cheaterling in 4.

Why cheaterling? Did he cheat?

MacTheKnife
06-01-2010, 08:22 PM
Berd in 4.. Big let down for toad. He'll find it extremely difficult to reproduce the level he found today two matches in a row. Not to mention he'll be expecting a lot more of himself in this one and find it a lot more difficult to just swing away like he was today. Those pesky expectations can really get in the way.. :lol:

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 08:23 PM
Why cheaterling? Did he cheat?

He has tried it a several times but hasn't managed to fool umpires at all.

maxxo
06-01-2010, 08:24 PM
what a matchup.

everything indicates a five setter with high quality stuff from both, but i have a strange feeling someone will get trashed. hope it's berdych, cause that would make an epic final (that is if rafa deals with the threat coming from the austrian alps)

oranges
06-01-2010, 08:24 PM
Why cheaterling? Did he cheat?

No, chair umpire is just bitter

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 08:28 PM
No, chair umpire is just bitter

Cheaterling's videos on youtube showing how he clearly tried to cheat are not video montages made by me.

Even today he tried to fool the umpire twice. Deal with it.

BodyServe
06-01-2010, 08:28 PM
Who would have thought those two would meet in the SF in these heavy condition?

Balls better be solid in that match.

oranges
06-01-2010, 08:29 PM
:baby: It's called delusion and in worse cases hallucinations to bolster the delusion.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 08:30 PM
Yes, you can keep lying to yourself. :wavey:

oranges
06-01-2010, 08:31 PM
I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting this "evidence", many would be eager to see, me included

Mjau!
06-01-2010, 08:31 PM
Söderling will win. Better backhand, forehand and serve. And while they are both on fire, Robin is just playing out of this world at the moment!
True Berdych does move better and is perhaps more versatile, but he wont be able to withstand the relentless barrage that is coming his way.

Mjau!
06-01-2010, 08:32 PM
Berd in 4.. Big let down for toad. He'll find it extremely difficult to reproduce the level he found today two matches in a row. Not to mention he'll be expecting a lot more of himself in this one and find it a lot more difficult to just swing away like he was today. Those pesky expectations can really get in the way.. :lol:

He massacred Nikolay 1-3-1 after taking out Rafa last year. :shrug:

zerocool_
06-01-2010, 08:36 PM
He massacred Nikolay 1-3-1 after taking out Rafa last year. :shrug:

And before Rafa he played great match against Ferrer and won ofc.. So there is no reason to play a great match again :)

oranges
06-01-2010, 08:36 PM
I'm not so sure how you can unequivocally claim he has a better BH and FH, serve OK, though it's still not as clear cut as you'd like it to be. In reality, both are tremendous hitters of both sides. Tomas likes playing hard hitters. In the end, it will come down to who'll perform better on the day and the return of serve could easily prove the most important bit.

Filo V.
06-01-2010, 08:43 PM
Söderling will win. Better backhand, forehand and serve. And while they are both on fire, Robin is just playing out of this world at the moment!
True Berdych does move better and is perhaps more versatile, but he wont be able to withstand the relentless barrage that is coming his way.

Soderling has more power, but that doesn't necessarily make him better overall. At his peak he is probably the most consistently hard and best hitter of the ball, but in general, I think Berdych hits a cleaner ball, hits a heavier ball, and places his serve better. It's going to be much harder for Soderling to tee off on Berdych's shots compared to Roger. And I think that will lead to errors.

Andi-M
06-01-2010, 08:44 PM
Theres always the possibilty of After the Lord Mayers show for Soderling and him putting in a bad performance, Berdych is playing out of his mind this week and people are underestimating him. I think this is a 5 set toss up, I'l go with Soda because he is less likely to choke in the big moments.

scarecrows
06-01-2010, 08:44 PM
:lol:

so, whom will you root for?

Berdych

Dyraise
06-01-2010, 08:48 PM
Berdych in 4

Guille.
06-01-2010, 08:48 PM
Win this Robin!!

MacTheKnife
06-01-2010, 08:51 PM
He massacred Nikolay 1-3-1 after taking out Rafa last year. :shrug:

No comparison. He had lost to fed 12 straight times.

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 09:02 PM
Looking on it as a whole:

Movement - Berdych
Serve - Soderling
Backhand - Soderling
Forehand - Berdych
Volleys - Soderling :wavey:
Smash - Berdych
Mentality - Soderling
Defence - Berdych
Power - Soderling
Return - Berdych

Or something like that.

I can agree with you . In all these parts of game in which Soderling is better , the difference is minimum , but in return difference is big . Berdych is much better returner and that shot will bring a win to him . Soderling will be completely harmless on Berdych serve and Berdych is much better mover also

Ibracadabra
06-01-2010, 09:05 PM
If tomas arrives mentally i suspect the birdman will fly away with it in 4.

Soderking has better volleys? fooled me

samanosuke
06-01-2010, 09:12 PM
If tomas arrives mentally i suspect the birdman will fly away with it in 4.

Soderking has better volleys? fooled me

:haha: I didn't see that . Soderling and volley is like cow and cosmetics

JanKowalski
06-01-2010, 09:16 PM
I just hope Robin doesn't underestimate Berdych after his great win over Federer. Berdych also seems to be on fire in this tournament.

DwyaneWade
06-01-2010, 09:19 PM
Berdych in 4. He has been magnificent thus far and I feel he moves better on clay. Also hits flatter than either Federer or Nadal, so Soderling will not have those high balls to crush.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 09:20 PM
It's not like Tomas is a good volleyer anyway, but fair enough Tomas is probably better?

Alley-oop
06-01-2010, 09:23 PM
Soderking in 4

Ibracadabra
06-01-2010, 09:24 PM
Tomas isn't a great volleyer agreed but i'm a better volleyer than soderking for god sake :P

Arkulari
06-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Toad in 4 or 5

TMJordan
06-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Who will win? Tennis will win.

jonas
06-01-2010, 09:32 PM
This is for sure a coin toss.
I'll go for Robin in five.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Berdych in 4. He has been magnificent thus far and I feel he moves better on clay. Also hits flatter than either Federer or Nadal, so Soderling will not have those high balls to crush.

I can agree with you . In all these parts of game in which Soderling is better , the difference is minimum , but in return difference is big . Berdych is much better returner and that shot will bring a win to him . Soderling will be completely harmless on Berdych serve and Berdych is much better mover alsoThis basically sums up what Tomas has to do, if he does do these things well then I really don't see Robin even having a chance.

Certinfy
06-01-2010, 09:37 PM
This match doesn't even matter, this was by far the biggest match between them:

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ShotmaKer
06-01-2010, 09:38 PM
Berd in 4.. Big let down for toad. He'll find it extremely difficult to reproduce the level he found today two matches in a row. Not to mention he'll be expecting a lot more of himself in this one and find it a lot more difficult to just swing away like he was today. Those pesky expectations can really get in the way.. :lol:

although i agree with you, this can also be a huge boost of confidence for him. besides, i'd add to that the fact that he just overcame the huge H2H disadvantage against one of his black sheep, and he knows he can play great at RG - being himself the RU last year after beating Nadal.

MurrayFan1
06-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Berdych in 4 imo. He looks to be in the form of his career. He is serving very well, doesnt have too much variety but I think this is kind of like for like. So Berdych. :) Good to see such a random semi-final for a slam!

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting this "evidence", many would be eager to see, me included

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oranges
06-01-2010, 09:54 PM
^^ Wow, what a cheater, how dare he argue about a call. You're not bitter at all :haha:

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:01 PM
If you watch carefully he was going to mark the right place were the ball hit but he noticed that the ball was actually IN and marked and different position. He tried to fool the umpire in the most pathetic and childish way I've seen in my whole life.

Utterly pathetic. Even the commies were laughing at him.

If you're blind it's not my problem.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:06 PM
If you watch carefully he was going to mark the right place were the ball hit but he noticed that the ball was actually IN and marked and different position. He tried to fool the umpire in the most pathetic and childish way I've seen in my whole life.

Utterly pathetic. Even the commies were laughing at him.

If you're blind it's not my problem.
Are you saying Soderling is a cheater? Sorry pal, but you're wrong. Are you posting this because you're angry at Soderling for beating Nadal last year?

oranges
06-01-2010, 10:07 PM
If you're bitter and shitting your pants already, it's not my problem either. The best I can offer is root for Birdy with me in the semi. Or is he also a cheater for shushing the Madrid crowd? :lol:

MalwareDie
06-01-2010, 10:09 PM
If you're bitter and shitting your pants already, it's not my problem either. The best I can offer is root for Birdy with me in the semi. Or is he also a cheater for shushing the Madrid crowd? :lol:

Ownage.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:09 PM
I've been saying that Rafa is not gonna reach the final since past sunday moron. Breath and use your brain before posting the same crap over and over.

The video is pretty clear. Again, if you're blind or retarded it's not my problem.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:11 PM
I've been saying that Rafa is not gonna reach the final since past sunday moron. Breath and use your brain before posting the same crap over and over.

The video is pretty clear. Again, if you're blind or retarded it's not my problem.
But you are wrong. You are bitter from last year because of Nadal's defeat to Soderling. It's so painfully clear.

If you're bitter, it's not my problem.

ImmzB
06-01-2010, 10:12 PM
Soderling in 5

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:12 PM
Are you saying Soderling is a cheater? Sorry pal, but you're wrong. Are you posting this because you're angry at Soderling for beating Nadal last year?

Nope, I've calling him Cheaterling since Rome 2009. That was before RG.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:13 PM
But you are wrong. You are bitter from last year because of Nadal's defeat to Soderling. It's so painfully clear.

If you're bitter, it's not my problem.

You guys can't defend his behaviour in Rome thus you have to attack me. It just probes my point.

And again, I've been calling Cheaterling since Rome 2009 that was before RG. :rolleyes:

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:17 PM
You guys can't defend his behaviour in Rome thus you have to attack me. It just proves my point.

And again, I've been calling Cheaterling since Rome 2009 that was before RG. :rolleyes:
So, what? You think Sodelring cheated? No buddy, as I've said it's clearly obvious he did not.

I'm not attacking you, I'm just voicing my opinion, which was wrong? ok, but why bring this up now?

I mean it's almost the final. Nadal seems to have a safe route to it, and then who? Soderling? I see now.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:19 PM
Why you have to bring Nadal into the conversation?

If you read my recent posts I've predicted a Melzer-Soda final, with Soda winning the championship.

You have to portray me as a Rafatard cause you can't defend Soderling's behaviour in Rome 2009. That's what is happening in here. :rolleyes:

Utterly pathetic. As much as you repeat that "he is not a cheater" what the video shows it's not going to change.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:23 PM
Why you have to bring Nadal into the conversation?

If you read my recent posts I've predicted a Melzer-Soda final, with Soda winning the championship.

You have to portray me as a Rafatard cause you can't defend Soderling's behaviour in Rome 2009. That's what happening in here. :rolleyes:

Utterly pathetic. As much as you repeat that "he is not a cheater" what the video shows it's not going to change.
No reason I guess, it just happened. Sorry, won't bring up your countryman again.

Well the fact that you are saying Melzer will reach the final instead of him is crazy. Do you really think he will? I'm sorry buddy, but your just so very wrong.

I can defend Soderling, and that video shows nothing except an annoyed Robin thinking the ball was out. No cheating, no making marks, no tricking the umpire. It's so clear.

andylovesaustin
06-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Oh... I get it.

I don't understand why the challenge system/replay can't be used in clay court tournaments when the "marks" are difficult to read :shrug: That sure would have saved that long discussion.

I don't know about Soda being a "cheater," but I it's pretty obvious he and Rafa aren't "close." :rolls:

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:25 PM
First he looked to the place where the ball hit. When noticed that the ball was IN looked to a different place and marked it. Anyone with eyes can clearly see it.

Again, if you're blind it's not my problem.

And Melzer is playing incredible. But then again I guess I can actually SEE.

andylovesaustin
06-01-2010, 10:29 PM
First he looked to the place where the ball hit. When noticed that the ball was IN looked to a different place and marked it. Anyone with eyes can clearly see it.

Again, if you're blind it's not my problem.

And Melzer is playing incredible. But then again I guess I can actually SEE.

Yeah... it just all happened so fast.. It looked like more of gamesmenship to me than cheating. Rafa was just dismissing Soda, so maybe he was HOPING.. What's interesting to me is how differently Sodapop played. You could tell he was not as aggressive.

Like I said, I just think the using replays would keep everyone "honest." ;)

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:29 PM
First he looked to the place where the ball hit. When noticed that the ball was IN looked to a different place and marked it. Anyone with eyes can clearly see it.

Again, if you're blind it's not my problem.

And Melzer is playing incredible. But then again I guess I can actually SEE.
My goodness, he didn't. He thought it was out, it was in. But he thought it was out. Sure, Soderling got it wrong, but he did not make a new mark.

I am not blind. If I was, I wouldn't be able to type out all these sentences and work the internet.

Melzer is playing incredible, he's reached a GS QF. But to say he'll reach the final is quite a large error in thinking.

Elbarto
06-01-2010, 10:34 PM
Berdych in 3 sets

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:36 PM
He marked a wrong point nearest to the center. Nadal's ball hit nearest to Soderling's left side, the point he looked at first.

JanKowalski
06-01-2010, 10:40 PM
Although I like Robin and we will probably never be 100% sure about this (maybe he will confess some time) I would say it sure does look like he tried to cheat a bit there.

The mark he pointed at was about 1,5m away from the correct mark.
And Nadal's ball was in.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:40 PM
He marked a wrong point nearest to the center. Nadal's ball hit nearest to Soderling's left side, the point he looked at first.
Wow, now looking at the video I can tell you something I didn't see. He did say there was a mark quite a bit away from the actual one, but he did not make a new mark.

Nadal's shot however, when looked at, was OUT.

LocoPorElTenis
06-01-2010, 10:41 PM
This is a high stakes match which could have many close sets. Mentally tougher player will win and his name is Robin Söderking.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Soderling was probably a little frustrated hown things where going and just lost concentration, seeing a mark near a middle and thinking that was the real mark.

However, the umpire was wrong with the real mark, as it was out.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Wow, now looking at the video I can tell you something I didn't see. He did say there was a mark quite a bit away from the actual one, but he did not make a new mark.

Nadal's shot however, when looked at, was OUT.

:retard:

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 10:56 PM
Would you care to argue in words instead of using insults. That's silly, and you know it.

Look closely, Nadal's shot WAS out.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:06 PM
Yes Glory you're right. Me, the umpire, the french commies and the crowd are wrong. May God bless your super-human vision. :D

Best regards.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Yes Glory you're right. Me, the umpire, the french commies and the crowd are wrong. May God bless your super-human vision. :D

Best regards.
Atleast now you're talking and not posting stupid insultive smilies. I'm not saying I've got any super vision, I'm just saying that Nadal's shot was out, the mark was out.

No need to sarcasm either, it's very annoying and completely unwanted.

If you can't see that, that's not my problem. That's yours.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:14 PM
It's OK. I'm saying you're right and me, the umpire, the commies and the crowd were wrong.

You should applicate for tennis umpire or tv tennis reporter. :yeah:

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:17 PM
All I'm saying is what I saw. I sense sarcasm in your post again. Can't say I'm surprised.

Who's to say I wouldn't be good at those jobs? But, not for me unfortunately.

Chiakifug
06-01-2010, 11:23 PM
I think Chair Umpire really needs to forget about a certain match 12 months ago at the French Open.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:23 PM
Why sarcasm? You don't believe that the umpire, the commies and the crowd are wrong and you're right? If fact, you have seen what no other people in this world have seen.

You shouldn't discard no job in this world. ATP, TV or even CIA.

Orka_n
06-01-2010, 11:25 PM
It's OK. I'm saying you're right and me, the umpire, the commies and the crowd were wrong.

You should applicate for tennis umpire or tv tennis reporter. :yeah:You don't have any arguments left so you resort to sarcasm :lol: Classy stuff. Also, the country flag next to your name seems to whisper something... what's that, flag? "I'm biased"...? Yes, flag. I know.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:26 PM
Why sarcasm? You don't believe that the umpire, the commies and the crowd are wrong and you're right? If fact, you have seen what no other people in this world have seen.

You shouldn't discard no job in this world. ATP, TV or even CIA.
Ok then, I guess. The shot was out.

Btw you don't have to be sarcastic in every post. Sarcasm is the lowest form of arguing and whit. It's also incredibly immature.

As I said beforehand, those jobs are not in my interest.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:27 PM
You don't have any arguments left so you resort to sarcasm :lol: Classy stuff. Also, the country flag next to your name seems to whisper something... what's that, flag? "I'm biased"...? Yes, flag. I know.

What arguments? I'm saying that HE is right, and everyone else is wrong. Look at the youtube is full of biased people with no clue. It must be an epidemia.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:29 PM
Ok then, I guess. The shot was out.

Btw you don't have to be sarcastic in every post. Sarcasm is the lowest form of arguing and whit. It's also incredibly immature.

As I said beforehand, those jobs are not in my interest.

I'm totally serious. You're arguments of "the-ball-was-out-the-umpire-was-wrong" are simply unbeatable. At least you should open a blog about it and open the eyes of everyone.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:32 PM
Darling, I'm totally serious. You're arguments of "the-ball-was-out-the-umpire-was-wrong" are simply unbeatable. At least you should open a blog about it and open the eyes of everyone.
Your posts aren't funny at all.

I'm just can't take any of your posts seriously, all they seem to be is sarcastic attempts at being funny which are unfortunately very unfunny.

JanKowalski
06-01-2010, 11:35 PM
I'm totally serious. You're arguments of "the-ball-was-out-the-umpire-was-wrong" are simply unbeatable. At least you should open a blog about it and open the eyes of everyone.

Don't argue with him (her?), don't feed the troll. The ball was obviously in, not even close to being out.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:37 PM
Don't argue with him (her?), don't feed the troll. The ball was obviously in, not even close to being out.
I'm not trolling, I'm simply voicing my own opinion on the matter. I believe the ball was out. If it was actually in, sue me. But I think it was out, but not by much.

Chair Umpire
06-01-2010, 11:39 PM
What's so sarcastic about agreeing with you? I've told you:

-You're right. The ball was out.
-The umpire was wrong.
-The commies of the match were wrong.
-The crowd at Rome were wrong.
-People commenting the video on youtube are wrong.

What else do I have to do?

Case closed.

Sapeod
06-01-2010, 11:43 PM
Ok, if you do agree with me, that's fine.

There was just something about your posts that sounded very sarcastic.

Case closed, then.

borracho
06-01-2010, 11:44 PM
Don't argue with him (her?), don't feed the troll. The ball was obviously in, not even close to being out.

this.

straitup
06-01-2010, 11:44 PM
I'm going with Soderling in 4...Berdych has been stunning all tournament, but Soderling at RG this year and last year is a completely different beast than any of the other Soderling's he has played.

Jimnik
06-01-2010, 11:55 PM
Tennis balls will lose. They'll all be flat by the end of the match.

Seriously though, it's got to be the best ever RG SF in terms of ball striking. Tough match-up for Rafa whoever wins.

Clydey
06-02-2010, 12:36 AM
There may be a few winners being hit in this semi-final.

ShotmaKer
06-02-2010, 12:40 AM
There may be a few winners being hit in this semi-final.

lol

the balls might not endure 6 games in a row.

selyoink
06-02-2010, 01:54 AM
For tennis' sake it needs to be Soderling. Berdych will shit is pants in a final against Nadull. Soderling will come out looking to batter the Nadull into retirement.

Persimmon
06-02-2010, 01:56 AM
Soderling in 4.

andy neyer
06-02-2010, 02:16 AM
I feel Berdych will take this one but who knows.

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 02:23 AM
Most of all I feel sorry for the balls in this match, they will be really hurt.

:lol: Good stuff.

This is one match where the lightness or heaviness of the balls doesn't seem like much of a factor because these two will be demolishing them.

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 02:29 AM
how the f*** did the Toad turn a 3-5 RG record into a 14-6 in last 2 yrs

freaky

Freaky indeed. A good question for a press conference. I'd like to hear his answer if he answers seriously.

Berdych has shown clay form in the past, but Soderling's clay prowess seems very specific to Roland Garros.

Though he missed his drug test at RG last year he's proving beyond a doubt that it didn't matter. Plus, while his clay season was meh, he's notched a lot of powerful wins (and the stepping stone loss to Federer at the USO) over the past 12 months.

There's a lot less talk on this board about the changing conditions of Roland Garros than there has been about Wimbledon since Nadal played well at it, and ultimate horror, won it.

But if you look at Federer's presser today all he talks about is conditions. :lol:

jenanun
06-02-2010, 02:30 AM
berdych... in 4 or 5... i will go for 5 as I would like to see a 5 set match....

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 02:32 AM
Robin was injured in Miami

Sounds familiar.

One of the great ironies of Nadal-Soderling enmity, especially amongst fans, is that both play a very physical game that aesthetes consider ugly -- just opposite styles.

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 02:34 AM
Soderling has more power, but that doesn't necessarily make him better overall. At his peak he is probably the most consistently hard and best hitter of the ball, but in general, I think Berdych hits a cleaner ball, hits a heavier ball, and places his serve better. It's going to be much harder for Soderling to tee off on Berdych's shots compared to Roger. And I think that will lead to errors.

Excellent post.

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 02:40 AM
Although I like Robin and we will probably never be 100% sure about this (maybe he will confess some time) I would say it sure does look like he tried to cheat a bit there.

The mark he pointed at was about 1,5m away from the correct mark.
And Nadal's ball was in.

Some common sense amongst the flaming.

Hopefully this will be beside the point and these two lovers (Nadal and Soderling) will get a chance to tango again.

But belittling Berdych's chances is foolish. If Robin had gotten a rousing response to beating Federer and snapping the semi streak, he would be going into the match as the crowd favorite. But the crowd is going to be quite fickle in this semifinal.

Ah the crowd -- funny how the thread on that subject just up and vanished.

coonster14
06-02-2010, 03:40 AM
berdych has been on fire this whole tournament, not having dropped a set at all.
soderling just defeated the defending champ whom he had a 0-12 H2H record against.

it is really hard to pick who wins this one. i think soderling in 5, and i hope it will be a soderling/nadal final, that would be a pretty epic match i think, one can always hope.

gusavo
06-02-2010, 04:24 AM
Well, those people are wrong. I am beyond sure Berdych will win. More sure than I was with the Soderling-Federer result. Berdych is going to make Robin uncomfortable and I don't think he will find an answer or plan B.
those people are right, you are wrong. berd is not close to favourite

Clay Death
06-02-2010, 05:02 AM
berdych in 5.

sod is overrated.

I_Dasco
06-02-2010, 06:43 AM
sod in 3 .. Hope to see him beat nadul again on final ..

Audacity
06-02-2010, 07:10 AM
I'm hoping Soderling, just because I think he has a better chance of beating Nadal. Having said that, it wouldn't bother me to see Berdych make his first slam final.

Tutu
06-02-2010, 07:32 AM
It will be interesting. As many have said Tomas won't give Robin any high-kicking topspin shots for him to tee off on. He has been in the zone all week so I feel good about his chances to make the final. :rocker2:

Aenea
06-02-2010, 07:47 AM
those people are right, you are wrong. berd is not close to favourite

weren't you the one who was mocking flyboy about his opinion on Berdych-Murray match :haha:

Turquoise
06-02-2010, 08:25 AM
I'm looking forward to this match. Seems evenly poised - both power hitters off both wings, great serves... I'd love for Berdych to reach his first grand slam final.

henke007
06-02-2010, 09:18 AM
If Birdie wins it will be his first GS final and Rafa's whole draw will have been a BYE. I think everyone wants a competitive and exciting final, and i for one will be down for the rest of the year if Sod looses this 1. Especially since he has a good record against Thomas except from Miami but then Sod ran out of gas after 2 Semis back to back and had problems with his knee and movement!!

FlameOn
06-02-2010, 11:28 AM
Soderling in 4. It should be a good match. Both men in great form.

Hellraiser
06-02-2010, 11:34 AM
Berdych in epic 4 sets or in decider.

zcess81
06-02-2010, 11:46 AM
I think Berdych in 5 sets.

malisha
06-02-2010, 02:09 PM
Soderling in 5

osalsyst
06-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Soderling should win this. He's been to the final before and has positive H2H against Berdych. But I see it being a tough match. Maybe similar score to the Fed match.

tennishero
06-02-2010, 03:11 PM
either of them in 3 or 4 depending on whos playing better.. i dont see a 5th.

ossie
06-02-2010, 03:54 PM
soderling in 4 sets

Sapeod
06-02-2010, 05:18 PM
berdych in 5.

sod is overrated.
I wouldn't say he was overrated CD. He's reached a GS final, and another semi, maybe even 2 GS finals after his match with Berdych, and he's beaten Nadal on clay. Not something very overrated, tbf.

gusavo
06-02-2010, 05:37 PM
weren't you the one who was mocking flyboy about his opinion on Berdych-Murray match :haha:
of course, he was having insane comments. what is the problem?

oranges
06-02-2010, 06:19 PM
of course, he was having insane comments. what is the problem?

No problem, apart from the fact that you were wrong and he was right and here we are again with you pretending you have a way to make "scientifically accurate" predictions :lol:

Edith09
06-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Can´t see Soderling losing this one. Hope Berdych will make this match interesting.

The Magician
06-02-2010, 08:24 PM
Berdych has yet to prove he's mentally tough. The good players he beat, Murray, Isner, and Youzny, were all outmatched and never really got into the match. If Berdych wants to win against Soderling, he'll have to hang tough mentally because it's basically impossible to overpower Soderling. Also don't forget the awful match he played against Roddick in Maimi, he still has a lot of bird-brain in him.

Filo V.
06-02-2010, 08:55 PM
Mental strength isn't even going to be a part of the equation in this match. Tomas is going to comprehensively beat Robin by the end of the match, it would take a monumental choke for Tomas to lose. He's going to win like 6-2 in the 4th set for victory.

Nidhogg
06-02-2010, 09:02 PM
This one is still very hard to predict. Both players will fight hard for supremacy, and I think whoever gets ahead first will have a good chance.

The Magician
06-02-2010, 09:12 PM
Mental strength isn't even going to be a part of the equation in this match. Tomas is going to comprehensively beat Robin by the end of the match, it would take a monumental choke for Tomas to lose. He's going to win like 6-2 in the 4th set for victory.

You're going to have to come up with some good material for the USO if you're going to peak at the right time for ACC. Still a little early I think :wavey:

Filo V.
06-02-2010, 09:22 PM
You're going to have to come up with some good material for the USO if you're going to peak at the right time for ACC. Still a little early I think :wavey:

Nothing I'm saying is ridiculous. Berdych is going to beat Robin. Just my opinion.

Johnny_Bravo
06-02-2010, 09:33 PM
like how flyboy described how the game should go,but i'm lazy to go back and quote it tough :) it could certainly be one of the ways for berdy to win it.hope that,if not berdy, at least lucie read it ;)

should be a tight one.

oz_boz
06-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Damn tough to call. But I think if Robin wins he'll do it in 3 or 4, if Berdman wins it'll go to 4 or 5. Heja Robin :rocker2:!

Guy Haines
06-02-2010, 10:43 PM
like how flyboy described how the game should go,but i'm lazy to go back and quote it tough :) it could certainly be one of the ways for berdy to win it.hope that,if not berdy, at least lucie read it ;)

should be a tight one.

Lucie :sobbing:

She should be doing as well as (or close to) her boyfriend. Her game is one of those mysteries of tennis today, especially her either on-fire or I'm-aiming-for-the-back-row return of serve.

I don't see how anyone can call this match with utter certainty. I hope both of these guys show up in form because it will be a fight.

andylovesaustin
06-02-2010, 10:56 PM
Damn tough to call. But I think if Robin wins he'll do it in 3 or 4, if Berdman wins it'll go to 4 or 5. Heja Robin :rocker2:!

I agree! This is a tough one.

I voted for Soda in 4, but it could go 5!

gusavo
06-02-2010, 11:25 PM
No problem, apart from the fact that you were wrong and he was right and here we are again with you pretending you have a way to make "scientifically accurate" predictions :lol:
I were not wrong, what are you talking about? stop saying that without any proof, pathetic. what is wrong with you people?
I have a way to make very accurate estimates of who will win, its very simple and scientifically proven, yet so few of you understands it even slightly.
yet again you make a basic error. still cant answer my pm?
I hope you wont sometime give up on this argument like I expect you to do once again.

Mental strength isn't even going to be a part of the equation in this match. Tomas is going to comprehensively beat Robin by the end of the match, it would take a monumental choke for Tomas to lose.
wow, thats going to be the case huh. then youll make an insane amount of money.

oranges
06-03-2010, 12:13 AM
I were not wrong, what are you talking about? stop saying that without any proof, pathetic. what is wrong with you people?
I have a way to make very accurate estimates of who will win, its very simple and scientifically proven, yet so few of you understands it even slightly.
yet again you make a basic error. still cant answer my pm?
I hope you wont sometime give up on this argument like I expect you to do once again.


:lol: You have some serious issues, but I just have to ask - whatever happened to accurate, scientifically proven estimates in case of Berdych-Murray match. AFAIR, you insisted Birdy is no favorite and even less so in straights. How weren't you wrong exactly with your prediction? Probably way over your head, but is it some kind of sophism where you pretend attacking that prediction vehemently doesn't mean you were backing Murray? And even if so, how does the part you said explicitly disappear? Are you getting dizzy?

BTW, no, I don't want you to PM me about this six months from now and if you do, I'll again not respond. Go figure, I'll move on by then and not care.

Corey Feldman
06-03-2010, 02:20 AM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:

Sunset of Age
06-03-2010, 02:21 AM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:

:ras: :lol:

Seriously: don't underestimate Da Birdman. ;)

ShotmaKer
06-03-2010, 02:23 AM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:

:lol:

Matt01
06-03-2010, 03:13 AM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:


Not me :p

I'm a Nadal-fan and I want to see a Nadal-Söderking final since that would be the most interesting and exciting thing I can think of :D
(of course I like Söderking very much, too...)

yomike
06-03-2010, 09:10 AM
Soderling has more than half chance of winning against Nadal. Berdych will probably be smoked. But I like both of them so may the best player win.

ossie
06-03-2010, 09:29 AM
:ras: :lol:

Seriously: don't underestimate Da Birdman. ;)
my biggest hope was a murray-nadal final but soderling vs rafa is a close second :yeah:

Certinfy
06-03-2010, 10:24 AM
They better put the Melzer-Nadal match first on friday, then if Nadal wins I won't be so pissed if Soderling wins :o

Certinfy
06-03-2010, 10:40 AM
By the way when their H2H came up against each other just before the match started in Miami it showed it as 5-2 in Soderling's favour, while on the official H2H it should of only been 4-2. Why is this? Is their Sunrise Final challenger match counted?

gusavo
06-03-2010, 10:47 AM
:lol: You have some serious issues
seriously? you have some serious issues. with seven k posts and the way you phrase yourself you would think you were decently old, so I cant believe how you can think like this.

but I just have to ask - whatever happened to accurate, scientifically proven estimates in case of Berdych-Murray match.
AFAIR, you insisted Birdy is no favorite and even less so in straights. How weren't you wrong exactly with your prediction?
"oh look, you predicted that the coin would land tails 50% of the time, it didnt! it lands heads 100% of the time! you are so stupid, you and your damn science"

BTW, no, I don't want you to PM me about this six months from now and if you do, I'll again not respond. Go figure, I'll move on by then and not care.
you did respond though, three times. you claimed I had no argument, then you ignored me afterwards. seems like you care about proving me wrong a fair bit, I guess you just ran out of arguments.

oranges
06-03-2010, 11:11 AM
"oh look, you predicted that the coin would land tails 50% of the time, it didnt! it lands heads 100% of the time! you are so stupid, you and your damn science"

It is a sophism after all. Apparently, you didn't make a prediction at all, you just feel compelled to attack those you disagree with, but that in no way means you yourself have committed to any kind of prediction. It's an exercise in probability calculations and semantics, because after all, it's not like this is a tennis forum, it's a place for mathematicians to gather and discuss probabilities of something that cannot be quantified in the first place. Science is awesome, it lets you wriggle out of being both wrong and stupid just like that :haha:

you did respond though, three times. you claimed I had no argument, then you ignored me afterwards. seems like you care about proving me wrong a fair bit, I guess you just ran out of arguments.


I responded not to bother me with six months old argument just because you woke up from hibernation. If that's you idea of a discussion, you should check the word in a dictionary, along with the synonyms for bugger off. Not to worry, I'll ignore you altogether from now on

Bernard Black
06-03-2010, 12:05 PM
Soderling too solid off the ground for Berdych, I feel. Should be a good match though.

Guga_fan
06-03-2010, 01:44 PM
Can't predict at all, but I would be really pleased if Berdych made his 1st slam final

gusavo
06-03-2010, 02:17 PM
It is a sophism after all. Apparently, you didn't make a prediction at all, you just feel compelled to attack those you disagree with, but that in no way means you yourself have committed to any kind of prediction. It's an exercise in probability calculations and semantics, because after all, it's not like this is a tennis forum, it's a place for mathematicians to gather and discuss probabilities of something that cannot be quantified in the first place. Science is awesome, it lets you wriggle out of being both wrong and stupid just like that :haha:
prediction what the hell is that? is this some kind of playground for people to make comments like "uh I think this guy will win"? for what purpose, to score points? the threads are pure death. I thought it was to discuss the players and maybe ponder upon how good their form is, or something. still quite boring, though.
okay lets say I made a prediction. it makes no difference whether I made a prediction, and its of no relevance to what happends in a match, I won the prediction game, yay.

I responded not to bother me with six months old argument just because you woke up from hibernation. Not to worry, I'll ignore you altogether from now on
thats not what you responded with.
as I PREDICTED

Start da Game
06-03-2010, 02:31 PM
attack - soda holds the edge
defense - berdych holds the edge

this should be an entertaining match.......berdych will be tough to beat i feel, simply because he has better defense compared to soderling and can also attack when needed.......slightly better variation in groundies compared to sod......the problem is his head, if he gets that right, game on.......soda might just get over the line.......

Orka_n
06-03-2010, 04:34 PM
prediction what the hell is that? is this some kind of playground for people to make comments like "uh I think this guy will win"?Eh... yes it is. If you don't like it, get out.

River
06-03-2010, 04:36 PM
Birds > Toads

But sometimes this bird doesn't look and smacks a tree every once in a while...

M4RC
06-03-2010, 04:46 PM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:

Don't put words on other's mouths. Every Nadal fan should look forward to his revenge. Maybe the fangirls are praying for Berdy.

Sadly for me, Berdych in 5.

prediction what the hell is that? is this some kind of playground for people to make comments like "uh I think this guy will win"?

Congratulations, you've learned what the heck are the forums about :aparty:

River
06-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Berdych in 5

every single Nadal fan praying for Berdy as well :lol:

Being a Nadal fan, I'd say I'd want Soderling to win just for Rafa to avenge his loss last year; it would be a fitting end.

But I like Birdy here.

Xristos
06-04-2010, 05:30 AM
The Birdman in 4.

uthustler
06-04-2010, 07:58 AM
Too much power in this match, It could go to five sets and I think Toad will win.

who is Toad?

gorgo1986
06-04-2010, 08:06 AM
I prefer Berdych as a player and as a personality. He is a good guy. However I think the prospect of seeing Soderling and Nadal in a final would be a lot more interesting. I would like to see Nadal beat the best or if he loses at least lose to the best. This last year Soderling has proved himself as one of the most capable players on the tour. In the end of the day I think Berdych-Soderling should be 50/50. They both have a great chance to make the final.

alter ego
06-04-2010, 08:24 AM
Soderling hould do it in 3 or 4. Can't see Berdych breaking his serve.

oranges
06-04-2010, 08:28 AM
Soderling hould do it in 3 or 4. Can't see Berdych breaking his serve.

Perhaps you're confused who has a much better return of the two :p

Voo de Mar
06-04-2010, 11:17 AM
Soderling in tight 4 sets :shrug:

Vida
06-04-2010, 11:27 AM
soderling appears mentally tougher than berdych, so it basically revolves around that.

Certinfy
06-04-2010, 11:32 AM
These are 2 guys u can just never trust. One day they come out and play unreal tennis then the next they come out and play some of the worst tennis you'll ever see.

With luck both of them either have a good day otherwise this is going to well one sided.

JanKowalski
06-04-2010, 11:38 AM
who is Toad?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=148071

Chiakifug
06-04-2010, 03:51 PM
Well, those people are wrong. I am beyond sure Berdych will win. More sure than I was with the Soderling-Federer result. Berdych is going to make Robin uncomfortable and I don't think he will find an answer or plan B.

I nomally dont do this but this post was too funny not to....

Filo V.
06-04-2010, 04:17 PM
I nomally dont do this but this post was too funny not to....

Tomas was outplaying Robin for the balance of the match until Tomas went away. I was wrong however in that thinking the fitness wouldn't play a factor, because it eventually did.