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Roland Garros 2010: Main Draw Live

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alansk
05-21-2010, 10:20 AM
Let's do this.

Article (http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2010-05-20/201005201274373553976.html)

Live animated thingy (http://tirage-rg-ref.fft.fr/web/tab.htm)

Twitter (http://twitter.com/rolandgarros)

Should be kicking off within 30 mins. Right?

Luinir
05-21-2010, 10:22 AM
Yes, mens draw after womens draw

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 10:28 AM
Live animated thingy took a while to work last year. Hope it's better this time.

alansk
05-21-2010, 10:30 AM
The draw will be delayed and full of errors as usual. Funny shit.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 10:33 AM
The draw will begin at around 11.30 am at the Roland Garros Tennis museum. Click on the links above to follow the draws on rolandgarros.com with a slight delay (after the draws have been validated by an official).

Proceedings will get under way with the women's singles. Click on the link at around 11.45 am (CET) then please wait while the window opens automatically.
Contradiction?

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 10:38 AM
Still a contradiction.

"Follow the draw live!" shouldn't mean just posting it once complete and verified.

ossie
05-21-2010, 10:42 AM
Still a contradiction.

"Follow the draw live!" shouldn't mean just posting it once complete and verified.word

henke007
05-21-2010, 10:43 AM
Lets hope Roger rigs the Drawm so Rafa gets dangerous floaters and big servers

orangehat
05-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Lets hope Roger rigs the Drawm so Rafa gets dangerous floaters and big servers

As long as nadal isn't near my favourites i'm fine with where he is :lol:

Imaster
05-21-2010, 10:50 AM
Its 11:50 CET, still nothing has come up, I can just see a rotating Roland Garros coin..

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 10:51 AM
Same shit as last year. By the time it starts working they might as well post the full draw.

scoobs
05-21-2010, 10:52 AM
I have no idea why they bother with this.

it never works well and one year it posted completely the wrong draw when it did finally work so I'm not going to trust it until I see it as an official PDF.

henke007
05-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Such a teaser

ossie
05-21-2010, 10:53 AM
kill yourself rg

dombrfc
05-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Cmonnnn

shuhrat
05-21-2010, 10:54 AM
http://twitter.com/rolandgarros

Guigr
05-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Isn't IBM responsible for IT for all Slams?

alansk
05-21-2010, 10:56 AM
http://twitter.com/rolandgarros

Thanks, added to first post.

Imaster
05-21-2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks for the Twitter link.

Hewitt2010
05-21-2010, 10:58 AM
C'mon Federer has to play Wildcard Carsten Ball first up.

SeagullUK
05-21-2010, 10:59 AM
For those of us who can't get Twitter at work what the hell is going on?

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:00 AM
For those of us who can't get Twitter at work what the hell is going on?

Not much...

Victoria Azarenka will play against Gisela Dulko...
8 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Svetlana Kuznetsova against Sorana Cirstea, an another big first round !
9 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Patty Schnyder for Venus Williams ! A big first round match !
11 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Stefanie Voegele will play against Serena Williams

Luinir
05-21-2010, 11:00 AM
Luczak vs. Federer

shit :D

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:00 AM
The 'live draw thing' is just showing the women's draw now. Hopefully men's will be soon...

henke007
05-21-2010, 11:01 AM
Luczak will play Federer

Btw the draw link is working they are filling the womans draw sheet

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:01 AM
ah the live animation thingy has kicked into action for the womens draw...

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:01 AM
And we're up and running.

Imaster
05-21-2010, 11:01 AM
Yup its working

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:04 AM
"Nadal - Mina..."

WTF

Stuart Fraser
05-21-2010, 11:04 AM
Murray V Gasquet!!!!!

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:05 AM
Murray Gasquet!!!!!!!!!

Roddick - Nieminen
less than 5 seconds ago via TweetDeck

Tsonga - Brands
less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

Soderling - Recouderc
half a minute ago via TweetDeck

Murray - Gasquet
less than a minute ago via TweetDeck

born_on_clay
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Murray - Gasquet :haha:
oh, shit

orangehat
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Oh my word Gasquet draws Murray

dombrfc
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Go gasquet!

born_on_clay
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
djoko-korolev

Guigr
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Murray-Gasquet!
Back to depression for at least one of them!

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Djokovic - Korolev

ImmzB
05-21-2010, 11:07 AM
Alllez Gasquet!

orangehat
05-21-2010, 11:07 AM
Djokovic draws Korolev :scratch:

henke007
05-21-2010, 11:07 AM
:roflmao:

yesyesok
05-21-2010, 11:07 AM
Who is mina?

spriwi
05-21-2010, 11:08 AM
Who is mina?

no idea :o

scoobs
05-21-2010, 11:08 AM
gasquet? Oh FFS

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:08 AM
Most likely to be French 19 year old, Gianni Mina, ranked 653. There's another Mina on the ATP website but I thought GM was more likely as he's French.

Gonzalez88
05-21-2010, 11:09 AM
minar or wild card??? :D

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:09 AM
poor gasquet, such luck this boy has

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:10 AM
poor murray more like

Stuart Fraser
05-21-2010, 11:11 AM
Who is mina?

Gianni Mina is a French wildcard.

.-Federers_Mate-.
05-21-2010, 11:11 AM
muzza out in rd 1, book it!!

born_on_clay
05-21-2010, 11:11 AM
verdasco-kunitsyn

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:11 AM
Murray-Gasquet

Will be a disaster for whoever loses.

krn81
05-21-2010, 11:12 AM
Mina is a French player and he is ranked world number 1 in the junior or was at least last year...
His is a bit similar to Monfils...

Xristos
05-21-2010, 11:12 AM
Can someone update the first post with the main draw.

ossie
05-21-2010, 11:12 AM
murray vs gasquet :haha:

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:12 AM
poor murray more like

Come on now, if Gasquet actually beats Murray here I'll only eat haggis for the rest of my life

scoobs
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Murray-Gasquet

Will be a disaster for whoever loses.
It's not good news for either - Gasquet at RG is :retard: but Murray won't want to have to deal with someone as good as Gasquet *can* be this early on clay :sad:

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Mens Finally!

Imaster
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Its started in that interactive thing..

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Mina is a French player and he is ranked world number 1 in the junior or was at least last year...
His is a bit similar to Monfils...

Oh , another Monfils :banghead:

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Refresh the spinny thing, the full draw is coming up on the website.

Hewitt2010
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Such luck for him, what are you talking about what about Luczak. Aus Open he got Rafa (2), now here Federer (1) that luck mate.

Stuart Fraser
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Murray in Federer's half!

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Well we know Djokovic is on Nadal's side. Lucky Fed.

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:14 AM
Gasquet/Murray in Federer's half, so Djokovic has Nadal.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:14 AM
Federer gets Soderling in his quarter. :haha:

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:14 AM
Soderling, Tsonga, Murray in Federer's half so Nadal has Djokovic, Roddick, Verdasco!

Ales_Alessandra
05-21-2010, 11:15 AM
Murray x Gasquet best match of R1.
Qorried about Fernando. Igor could be a tough R1. :awww:

scoobs
05-21-2010, 11:15 AM
Murray in Federer's half!
:lol:

like that's going to matter :)

Ales_Alessandra
05-21-2010, 11:16 AM
Soderling, Tsonga, Murray in Federer's half so Nadal has Djokovic, Roddick, Verdasco!
REALLY?
GREAT!

scoobs
05-21-2010, 11:16 AM
Murray in the same 8th as Berdych, same quarter as Tsonga

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:17 AM
Nice draw for murray if you disregard gasquet

Imaster
05-21-2010, 11:18 AM
Nadal avoids Soderling, Gulbis, Tsonga, Murray, wow.... talk about an easy draw ;)

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:18 AM
Might as well put Federer in the final.

Pretty much guarantees his #1 position until Wimbledon.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:19 AM
Both Federer and Nadal will be happy with the position of Soderling in the draw.

Can anything prevent another Fedal Final?

krn81
05-21-2010, 11:19 AM
Oh , another Monfils :banghead:

Just for the look, not the style ;)

Goget
05-21-2010, 11:20 AM
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1845/drabinka.jpg

scoobs
05-21-2010, 11:20 AM
Nice draw for murray if you disregard gasquet
really? baghdatis is debatable and I don't think berdych is very nice.

StevoTG
05-21-2010, 11:20 AM
If Hewitt gets past Chardy and Becker/Istomin he'll play Nadal for the fourth time in 5 years at RG!

jmf07
05-21-2010, 11:21 AM
Fed gave himself a beautiful draw.

Roamed
05-21-2010, 11:21 AM
Edit: whoops didn't see it was already posted

Federer-Gulbis quarter final could be one to watch.

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 11:21 AM
Sod in Fed's quarter AGAIN? Poor bastard doesn't have much luck. Still, on current form he won't make the quarters anyway.

orangehat
05-21-2010, 11:23 AM
[1]Federer-Lucak
Tipsarevic-Falla
Qualifier - O Rochus
Qualifier - [27]Lopez
[20]Hajek - Hajek
Lorenzi - A. Beck
Massu - Fognini
Mayer - [13]Monfils

[10]Cilic - Mello
Tursunov - Gimeno-Traver
L. Mayer - Stakhovsky
Benneteau - [23]Gulbis
[29]Montanes - Qualifier
Robert - Qualifier
Dent - N Lapentti
[WC]Recouderc - [5]Soderling

[4]Murray - Gasquet
Chela - [WC]Sweeting
Mathieu - Granollers
Qualifier - [28]Baghdatis
[17]Isner - Golubev
Qualifier - Chiudinelli
[WC]Roger-Vasselin - Anderson
Qualifier - [15]Berdych

[11]Youzhny - Przysiezny
Qualifier - Lacko
Petzschner - [WC]Ball
Troicki - [21]Robredo
[32]Garcia-Lopez - Schuettler
Qualifier - De Bakker
[WC]Ouanna - Kubot
Brands - [8]Tsonga

[6]Roddick- Nieminen
Schwank - Kavcic
Qualifier - Koellerer
Qualifier - [26]Monaco
[22]Sela - Sela
Zverev - [WC]Mahut
Malisse - Greul
[WC]Guez - [9]Ferrer

[16]Ferrero - Cuevas
Gicquel - Riba
Starace - Marchenko
Ginepri - [18]Querrey
[31]Hanescu - Hernandez
Ram - Qualifier
Nishikori - Giraldo
Korolev - [3]Djokovic

[7]Verdasco - Kunitsyn
Serra - Russell
Qualifier - Seppi
K Beck - [30]Kohlschreiber
[19]Almagro - Haase
Vliegen - Darcis
Clement - Dolgopolov
Qualifier - [12]Gonzalez

[14]Ljubicic - Lu
Berrer - Fish
Qualifier - Qualifier
Llodra - [24]Bellucci
[28]Hewitt - Chardy
Istomin - Becker
Zeballos - Qualifier
[WC]Mina - [2]Nadal

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:23 AM
Winner of Murray-Gasquet could easily make semi-final.

2nd quarter is by far the weakest.

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:24 AM
Just for the look, not the style ;)

Oh thnx Good then . Another Monfils would be too much for my stomach

Drikke
05-21-2010, 11:24 AM
Vliegen - Darcis :o

And Rochus should be able to reach 3th round federer, they have had some nice matches before :p Not rochus will win, but should be good match

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Poor Monfils draws Federer every year, and each yer he draws him one round earlier than the last

Selby
05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Awful draw for Roddick, he has no chance to get past the 3rd round.

Or Levy
05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Roger - Luczak - Tipsy - Lopez - Gael/Stan - Gulbis/Sod/ - easy semis, totally open - Rafa.

@Sweet Cleopatra
05-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Vamos Rafa God bless you...

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:27 AM
Now that I look at it, Djokovic's draw is pretty bad. I can see Ferrer reaching the semis here

alansk
05-21-2010, 11:27 AM
really? baghdatis is debatable and I don't think berdych is very nice.

agreed, but better than the other possibilities.

Or Levy
05-21-2010, 11:27 AM
Gulbis/Sod could be a total cracker, and then Roger will get the winner well riped. Not too bad, actually.

Pretty even draw, I think. Murray got a really easy Quarter, but a toughie first match.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:28 AM
FACT:

No player in the 2nd quarter has ever made the semi-final of RG before. And only two have made the quarter-final.

Will be an amazing first time breakthrough for one of them.

born_on_clay
05-21-2010, 11:28 AM
Rafa: Mina-Zeballos-Hewitt-Ljubo/Bellucci-Almagro/Verdasco/Kohli/Gonzo-Djoko/Ferrer/A-Rod

Aaric
05-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Some players are just not lucky :o

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:29 AM
Gulbis/Sod could be a total cracker, and then Roger will get the winner well riped. Not too bad, actually.

Pretty even draw, I think. Murray got a really easy Quarter, but a toughie first match.

eh honestly I think Tsonga would be slight favorite against Murray in a Roland-Garros quarter, especially considering Murray's form.

orangehat
05-21-2010, 11:29 AM
All my favourites with average - bad draws :o

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:30 AM
Nadal is just amazing . He is the luckiest player ever . Look at the seeds in his draw: hewit-returning after injury and really sucks on clay , bellucci - can't beat anyone at the moment , Ljubo - returning after injury , Gonzalez - returning after injury , Almagro - bitch number 2 , Kohlschreiber - out of the form , Verdasco - bitch number 1 and eventually seeded opponents in the semis Roddick -:haha: and Djokovic - he wouldn't be alive until semis

Ales_Alessandra
05-21-2010, 11:31 AM
[1]Federer-Lucak
Tipsarevic-Falla
Qualifier - O Rochus
Qualifier - [27]Lopez
[20]Hajek - Hajek
Lorenzi - A. Beck
Massu - Fognini
Mayer - [13]Monfils

[10]Cilic - Mello
Tursunov - Gimeno-Traver
L. Mayer - Stakhovsky
Benneteau - [23]Gulbis
[29]Montanes - Qualifier
Robert - Qualifier
Dent - N Lapentti
[WC]Recouderc - [5]Soderling

[4]Murray - Gasquet
Chela - [WC]Sweeting
Mathieu - Granollers
Qualifier - [28]Baghdatis
[17]Isner - Golubev
Qualifier - Chiudinelli
[WC]Roger-Vasselin - Anderson
Qualifier - [15]Berdych

[11]Youzhny - Przysiezny
Qualifier - Lacko
Petzschner - [WC]Ball
Troicki - [21]Robredo
[32]Garcia-Lopez - Schuettler
Qualifier - De Bakker
[WC]Ouanna - Kubot
Brands - [8]Tsonga

[6]Roddick- Nieminen
Schwank - Kavcic
Qualifier - Koellerer
Qualifier - [26]Monaco
[22]Sela - Sela
Zverev - [WC]Mahut
Malisse - Greul
[WC]Guez - [9]Ferrer

[16]Ferrero - Cuevas
Gicquel - Riba
Starace - Marchenko
Ginepri - [18]Querrey
[31]Hanescu - Hernandez
Ram - Qualifier
Nishikori - Giraldo
Korolev - [3]Djokovic

[7]Verdasco - Kunitsyn
Serra - Russell
Qualifier - Seppi
K Beck - [30]Kohlschreiber
[19]Almagro - Haase
Vliegen - Darcis
Clement - Dolgopolov
Qualifier - [12]Gonzalez

[14]Ljubicic - Lu
Berrer - Fish
Qualifier - Qualifier
Llodra - [24]Bellucci
[28]Hewitt - Chardy
Istomin - Becker
Zeballos - Qualifier
[WC]Mina - [2]Nadal

Tks for that!
Ferrer and Verdasco could switch places. Bad draw for Fernando, Gonzalez and Rafa! Oh well, plus an arm in doubt! :awww:

SelvenluvJo
05-21-2010, 11:31 AM
Button half>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>top half

djb84xi
05-21-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't see anybody stopping Rafa at this point. Verdasco will tired himself out real quick, so Rafa could end up playing either Almagro, Gonzo, or Kohly in the quarterfinals. I could easily see a Rafa/Ferrer semi.

Fed's quarterfinal could be tough, especially if he has to play Gulbis or even Soderling, if he finds his form. Beyond that, his side of the draw is pathetic! There's no way Fed doesn't make the final, but then again, stranger things have and could happen. Assuming all goes to plan, it's obvious we're getting another Fed/Rafa final.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 11:33 AM
First round highlight:

Nishikori - Giraldo :worship:

A victory for tennis.

nateyang
05-21-2010, 11:33 AM
FACT:

No player in the 2nd quarter has ever made the semi-final of RG before. And only two have made the quarter-final.

Will be an amazing first time breakthrough for one of them.

How's this possible? There are only 4 quarters, guarantee one semifinalist for each? Do you mean the final or the 2nd octave?

orangehat
05-21-2010, 11:38 AM
How's this possible? There are only 4 quarters, guarantee one semifinalist for each? Do you mean the final or the 2nd octave?

He means every PLAYER who is in that quarter has never made the Quarterfinals before.

Edit: I mean semifinal

@Sweet Cleopatra
05-21-2010, 11:39 AM
Henin-Sharapova :sad:

henke007
05-21-2010, 11:40 AM
Nadal is just amazing . He is the luckiest player ever . Look at the seeds in his draw: hewit-returning after injury and really sucks on clay , bellucci - can't beat anyone at the moment , Ljubo - returning after injury , Gonzalez - returning after injury , Almagro - bitch number 2 , Kohlschreiber - out of the form , Verdasco - bitch number 1 and eventually seeded opponents in the semis Roddick -:haha: and Djokovic - he wouldn't be alive until semis

Yeahh Rafa's draws rescently inkl this is a JOKE like he didn't already had an advantage. booring matches at center in other words when he plays. :o

Sod gets either Rafa or Fed the guy can't get the cake of Tsonga or Roddick, pathetic draw for Soda after 4th and forward:mad:

Fed offcourse has a much more trickier draw then Rafa with Sod and Gulbis floating around!!

Verdasco is in Nadal's 1/4 the only positive.

Nacho
05-21-2010, 11:41 AM
I think both fed and rafa are happy about their respective draws

Hewitt =Legend
05-21-2010, 11:41 AM
Hewitt cements his status of late as having the worst luck in the world in grand slam draws. Fed and Nadal in the 3rd and 4th rounds of slams every time.

Giraldo to take out Djokovic in the 2nd round.

henke007
05-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Ferrer gets Cake and may have won like 40 matches on clay soon haha to be top 5 in the world!!

_Chaz
05-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Yeahh Rafa's draws rescently inkl this is a JOKE like he didn't already had an advantage. booring matches at center in other words when he plays. :o

Sod gets either Rafa or Fed the guy can't get the cake of Tsonga or Roddick, pathetic draw for Soda after 4th and forward:mad:

Fed offcourse has a much more trickier draw then Rafa with Sod and Gulbis floating around!!

Verdasco is in Nadal's 1/4 the only positive.

But Verdasco is very tired and he would bend over against Nadal I´m sure. He always gets such cake draws :mad:

nateyang
05-21-2010, 11:45 AM
He means every PLAYER who is in that quarter has never made the Quarterfinals before.

Edit: I mean semifinal

Ok. Got it. Mistaken for a bit. Thank you. :D

Gonzalez88
05-21-2010, 11:45 AM
Poor Gonzo..
3rd Almagro, 4th Verdasco and QF Nadal!!! :(

Djokovic, Ferrero, Ferrer, Tsonga and Roddick are always LUCKY!!!

djb84xi
05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
But Verdasco is very tired and he would bend over against Nadal I´m sure. He always gets such cake draws :mad:

All the spaniards bend over for Rafa........they're his b*tches and they're afraid of him.

Adri89
05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Last year Gonzo had a very easy draw. It can't happen each year.

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Federer actually got really tricky draw . Waawrinka in dangerous , Monatenes beat Roger in Estoril , Gulbis beat Roger in Rome and Soderling is the worst choice from 5-8 seeds ( Roddick , Tsonga , Vredasco )

A_Skywalker
05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
Yeahh Rafa's draws rescently inkl this is a JOKE like he didn't already had an advantage. booring matches at center in other words when he plays. :o

Sod gets either Rafa or Fed the guy can't get the cake of Tsonga or Roddick, pathetic draw for Soda after 4th and forward:mad:

Fed offcourse has a much more trickier draw then Rafa with Sod and Gulbis floating around!!

Verdasco is in Nadal's 1/4 the only positive.

Guess what, Fed has easier draw, Verdasco is the 2nd clay player this year. Not that Rafa will have problems but he could tire Federer.
Also Soderling wont reach r4, trust me.

simplet
05-21-2010, 11:49 AM
Poor Gonzo..
3rd Almagro, 4th Verdasco and QF Nadal!!! :(

Djokovic, Ferrero, Ferrer, Tsonga and Roddick are always LUCKY!!!

Djokovic?? Did you even take a look at his draw?

HarryMan
05-21-2010, 11:49 AM
Good draw for both Federer and Nadal. Only tricky opponent for Federer could be Gulbis or Soderling but in a slam, Federer should be able to get through either of them. I think it will be a Federer - Nadal final this year.

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:50 AM
Poor Gonzo..
3rd Almagro, 4th Verdasco and QF Nadal!!! :(

Djokovic, Ferrero, Ferrer, Tsonga and Roddick are always LUCKY!!!

I doubt that the luck will help to Roddick anyway

samanosuke
05-21-2010, 11:53 AM
Good draw for both Federer and Nadal. Only tricky opponent for Federer could be Gulbis or Soderling but in a slam, Federer should be able to get through either of them. I think it will be a Federer - Nadal final this year.

For Nadal draw is great but for Federer I am not sure . OK, he got only 2 or 3 tricky opponents but I don't see any other tricky opponents in the draw except these ( maybe Gasquet but he is also in Roger's half )

n8
05-21-2010, 11:56 AM
Hewitt cements his status of late as having the worst luck in the world in grand slam draws. Fed and Nadal in the 3rd and 4th rounds of slams every time.

Giraldo to take out Djokovic in the 2nd round.

Hewitt's luck in Grand Slam draws has been amazingly bad for so, so long. Australia's second ranked player, Luczak, is following in his footsteps by drawing Federer 1st round (after drawing Nadal at the Australian Open).

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 11:57 AM
The only conceivable threat in Nadal's half is Djokovic. Says it all. We need Del Potro, Davydenko, & Nalbandian back & in form fast. The game is becoming predictable. There's better competition on grass ffs. At least there Roddick or Murray could shake things up.

Ales_Alessandra
05-21-2010, 11:57 AM
Poor Gonzo..
3rd Almagro, 4th Verdasco and QF Nadal!!! :(

Djokovic, Ferrero, Ferrer, Tsonga and Roddick are always LUCKY!!!

Indeed! :sad: Fernando x Fernando. That will be hard! :sobbing: One leaving before QF just suckssssss!!

Ales_Alessandra
05-21-2010, 12:00 PM
Hewitt's luck in Grand Slam draws has been amazingly bad for so, so long. Australia's second ranked player, Luczak, is following in his footsteps by drawing Federer 1st round (after drawing Nadal at the Australian Open).

Poor guy!! Better have a laugh of this! :lol:

Now, the one with the best draw on my opinion is FERRER, PICS on SF! :rocker: At least it seems with him it will be an easy ride! :awww:

henke007
05-21-2010, 12:04 PM
Tsonga and Murrays 1/4 is the most pathetic, Imagine that one of them or Berdych/Youzhny will make a semis at FO!!

Diprosalic
05-21-2010, 12:07 PM
nadal could have any player in his draw and people would say "easy" draw for nadal. nobody is a threat on paper for him.

acionescu
05-21-2010, 12:09 PM
Great opportunity for Ferrer to make the QF, even SF :bounce:

henke007
05-21-2010, 12:14 PM
nadal could have any player in his draw and people would say "easy" draw for nadal. nobody is a threat on paper for him.

No he could have gotten Sod or Gulbis or Tsonga instead of Spanish Bitches and out of form and back from Injury Gonzo!!

n8
05-21-2010, 12:15 PM
Got to feel for Mina. First tour level match against Nadal at Roland Garros. The lowest ranked player in the draw is playing the world number 2.

Good chance for N.Lapentti to get another Grand Slam win (playing Dent).

superslam77
05-21-2010, 12:28 PM
Only spaniards and old people on Nadal's side while fed has Soderling,Monfils,Gulbis,Montanes,Cilic,GGL,Baghs, Isner,Berdych,Youzhny.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
the fool of Nando playing Nice and a crap Nole on Nadal's side.

Horatio Caine
05-21-2010, 12:32 PM
Yep, gotta feel for Mina - would have been more beneficial for him to draw a clay clown. :sad:

On the whole it is an excellent draw for Muzza. Tricky matches with Gasquet, Berdych, Youzhny, Robredo and Tsonga, but I'm sure he'd have chosen this draw over chance encounters with the likes of Verdasco, Ferrer etc. Definitely has a chance to reach the SF, but he needs to hit the ground running immediately.

Rafa didn't get the best deal, but are we really expecting him to lose? :shrug: Answer = no. Should obviously grind down anyone in his path, but it is interesting that he could play a number of the harder hitters before the SF...Bellucci, Gonzo, Almagro etc. Arguably this is the only chance for a shock defeat.

Dream draw for Fed. Luczak has no chance; Tipsy probably isn't in good enough shape to trouble him (besides, clay isn't his best surface either); Lalo can only hope for a respectable scoreline; Monfils isn't in good enough shape; Stan has too much respect for him. That takes us into QF with Cilic, Gulbis, Albert and Soderling. All could certainly trouble him, and on a good day Fed could be overpowered by 3 of them....but let's face it, he'll probably find a way through. Ditto with the SF.

The draw could have been worse for Djokovic, considering his current level. Plenty of clay clowns in there (but decent servers might bother him if Nole cannot serve). Definitely a chance for Ferrer to reach the SF, and this is a result that could seal a top 10 year-end ranking for him right here. :eek: Will be interesting to see what Nishikori can offer (clay not good for him, but in-form), and Querrey could be a pest if he can maintain his better form. Hard to know what to expect from Roddick...has big match experience and that could get him as far as R4 (if Monaco's wrist is restricting him), but really you could anticipate him losing to each of Nieminen, Schwank, Monaco... :shrug:


Net result: expecting a Fed-Rafa final, and Rafa to probably win. Beyond that, I will tentatively suggest that Muzza and Ferru reach their first SF here.


...and welcome back Dima T! Plays Gimeno-Traver in R1, and hopefully he will finish the match without any complications. Would be good to see him back on the grass...very dangerous player.

B.z.A.
05-21-2010, 12:37 PM
Which half of the draw plays on Sunday and which courts are covered ?

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 12:39 PM
Rafa didn't get the best deal, but are we really expecting him to lose? :shrug: Answer = no. Should obviously grind down anyone in his path, but it is interesting that he could play a number of the harder hitters before the SF...Bellucci, Gonzo, Almagro etc. Arguably this is the only chance for a shock defeat.

But Gonzo & Almagro have single-handers & Bellucci is not at their level. The only credible pre-semis threats would have been Gulbis, Soderling, or Cilic, surely?

Florida
05-21-2010, 12:39 PM
A Fedal final is in the works..... Murray will fall to an eventual clay courter and Djoko has the worse draw.... I don't see Djoko even getting in front of Nadal in the finals. He still suffers from the lung infection, serve is out of order and he will fall. Ferrer or Ferrero will take care of him in the quarters if somebody else does not do it before.... I hate to say this but everything is predictable like this draw and the Fedal final will be on!!!!!! No Djoko or Murray to give Fedal some opposition. All the Spaniards will bend over for Nadal like they always do and Nadal will dispatch Roger with ease.....

Billups85
05-21-2010, 12:39 PM
Only spaniards and old people on Nadal's side while fed has Soderling,Monfils,Gulbis,Montanes,Cilic,GGL,Baghs, Isner,Berdych,Youzhny.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
the fool of Nando playing Nice and a crap Nole on Nadal's side.

In fact, Nadal has the best claycourters of the year on his side, i.e Ferrer, Verdasco, Ferrero.

henke007
05-21-2010, 12:45 PM
They are all Byes against Rafa their GOD

BlueSwan
05-21-2010, 12:49 PM
A Fedal final is in the works..... Murray will fall to an eventual clay courter and Djoko has the worse draw.... I don't see Djoko even getting in front of Nadal in the finals. He still suffers from the lung infection, serve is out of order and he will fall. Ferrer or Ferrero will take care of him in the quarters if somebody else does not do it before.... I hate to say this but everything is predictable like this draw and the Fedal final will be on!!!!!! No Djoko or Murray to give Fedal some opposition. All the Spaniards will bend over for Nadal like they always do and Nadal will dispatch Roger with ease.....


If that's the case, Murray will be thrilled, since he likely doesn't play a "clay courter" before the final.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 12:52 PM
Isner could make the 4th round.

nalbyfan
05-21-2010, 12:53 PM
Richard will face Murray, Mina will face Nadal, Benetteau will face Gulbis...

anutam
05-21-2010, 12:53 PM
Fed gave himself a beautiful draw.
Kuznetsova did. ;)

Acer
05-21-2010, 12:55 PM
Kuznetsova did. ;)

She IS a Fedtard, God BLESS her.

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 12:57 PM
In fact, Nadal has the best claycourters of the year on his side, i.e Ferrer, Verdasco, Ferrero.

Who all have tremendous records against him.

Priam
05-21-2010, 12:58 PM
No WWW poll yet?

Matt01
05-21-2010, 01:03 PM
They are all Byes against Rafa their GOD


So is your fave on clay.

*bunny*
05-21-2010, 01:05 PM
:unsure: Hope JCF's knee is OK so he can revenge on Cuevas! :rocker2:

First round highlight:

Nishikori - Giraldo :worship:

A victory for tennis.
Definitely. :worship:
Good luck to Kei!

Hewitt will be playing Nadal for the FOURTH time at Roland Garros in only 5 or 6 years !!!!
I hate to see them so close to each other in GS draws so many times! :(

n8
05-21-2010, 01:05 PM
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1845/drabinka.jpg

I hope Schwank can turn around his 6 match Grand Slam losing streak. Blaz Kavcic is about a good a draw as possible, then a clay courter's shot at Roddick at Roland Garros should never be sneezed at.

bokehlicious
05-21-2010, 01:11 PM
In fact, Nadal has the best claycourters of the year on his side, i.e Ferrer, Verdasco, Ferrero.

:lol: Nadal never struggles against bending Spaniards, some big hitters such as Soda or Youzhny would be more a threat for sure...

Audacity
05-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Nadal is a lock in to the semis at the very least.

Jomp1
05-21-2010, 01:31 PM
Soderling with good first three rounds, and then harder. But I don't have big hopes for him anyways I just hope he doesn't crash out early to mugs. Gulbis in the 4th round would be interesting, I can at least hope :)

shelly_jiang
05-21-2010, 01:33 PM
Hope Ernie cutie has a good form:D

coonster14
05-21-2010, 01:38 PM
my thoughts about the draw:

murray/gasquet 1st round- very interesting...
could have battle of the 2 fernandos in the 4th round

and what has the french open got against the aussies ay? drawing them against the hardest opponents possible?
luczak-federer 1st round
nadal-hewitt (possible 3rd round) :@

nadal is just going to storm his way to the final (yes i am a rafa fan, but i would have liked to see a gulbis or soderling in his 1/4 or 1/2 of the draw), ferrer, verdasco, ferrero are no match for him.

djokovic...i do not even think he will get to the SF to face rafa, either he will be beaten by ferrero 4th round or ferrer in QF.

just really disappointed soderling is not in the same half as rafa, should have swapped soderling with roddick or verdasco.

federer could face stan or monfils in 4th round, then gulbis or soderling in QF. most interesting 1/4 of the draw.

murray's 1/4 of the draw is an absolute joke. so we could have tsonga/berdych/youzhny getting to the SF's, talk about the weakest quarter, too bad gonzo is not drawn in this section...

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 01:43 PM
I know this may be random but.......

I expect Fabio vs. Nico to be at least 5 hours. That will be a classic.

henke007
05-21-2010, 01:57 PM
Nadal plays Verdasci in the 1/4

Sillyrabbit
05-21-2010, 02:00 PM
My word, Murray's draw is laughably easy. Let's take out the fact that he doesn't face a claycourter till the semis at least, he doesn't even face a genuinely decent player either till maybe Berdych. Really... :lol:

malisha
05-21-2010, 02:18 PM
shit draw

superslam77
05-21-2010, 02:19 PM
In fact, Nadal has the best claycourters of the year on his side, i.e Ferrer, Verdasco, Ferrero.

:o

Ferrer has no chance because he is a poor man's Rafa and won't beat Rafa at his own game..
Verdasco is a fool for playing MM a week before RG. Is already tired and will be even more(plus being the biggest rafatard in the world).
Ferrero doesn't bend over but the guy is getting there in age.

Enough said...you need a risk taker(Soderking,Gulbis) on his best day to take Rafa out...instead he gets a worshiper, no chance.

henke007
05-21-2010, 02:25 PM
The highest ranked player Rafa has beaten in these rescent 3 masters except from Fed is Verdasco, and that about sums up Rafas clown draws all together. He isn't near his form for a few years ago but keeps getting clown draws and also Gonzo, Davy, Delpo have been injured. I mean Gulbis was a couple of points away from winning in Rome so that pretty much sums it up that Rafa is still fragile, but keeps getting so lucky. Fed was a point here and there from beating him but wasted alot of BP.s, Game points and the 2nd set breaker.

He also was pushed around the court by Almugro and lost serve 3 times in one set before Almagro realised what he was doing to his idol and bent over.

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:27 PM
:o

Ferrer has no chance because he is a poor man's Rafa and won't beat Rafa at his own game..
Verdasco is a fool for playing MM a week before RG. Is already tired and will be even more(plus being the biggest rafatard in the world).
Ferrero doesn't bend over but the guy is getting there in age.

Enough said...you need a risk taker(Soderking,Gulbis) on his best day to take Rafa out...instead he gets a worshiper, no chance.

Well Verdasco/Ferrer would be much much tougher than Soderling for someone like Federer. Actually I don't even see Soderling making the second week. He has been far from impressive all season and will lose in the third round. And lucky Murray would have been spanked by Ferrero/Almagro/Ferrer/Verdasco/hell even Lopez in straights. His draw is EASY! and still look for Richard to spank him in the first round. :devil:

LOL at people seeing Soderling as a threat, he has sucked most of this season. Good Bye top ten.:wavey:

FedFan
05-21-2010, 02:28 PM
As I expected all the Spanish clowns in Nadals half.

All the hardhitters, the only ones, who could give him a challenge like Soderling, Gulbis, Cilic, Berdych, Youzhny are in Rogers half.

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:29 PM
The highest ranked player Rafa has beaten in these rescent 3 masters except from Fed is Verdasco, and that about sums up Rafas clown draws all together. He isn't near his form for a few years ago but keeps getting clown draws and also Gonzo, Davy, Delpo have been injured. I mean Gulbis was a couple of points away from winning in Rome so that pretty much sums it up that Rafa is still fragile, but keeps getting so lucky. Fed was a point here and there from beating him wasted alot of BP.s and Game points.

He also was pushed around the court by Almugro and lost serve 3 times in one set before Almagro realised what he was doing to his idol and bent over.

Yet he still spanked Federer in two on his least favorite clay tourney. :wavey: I am sure you are gonna enjoy this French Open as much as me.;):p

henke007
05-21-2010, 02:29 PM
Hey GORGO 1986

He spanked Fed in 2 sets with 6-4 7-6 with a one point difference, go back and read the stats!!:wavey:

You are really pathetic saying that Sod hasn't done anything this season 2 Masters semis back to back at IW/Miami and a 500 title and a final in Barcelona plus a 1/4 in marseille!! + 2 DC wins gives him about 1800 points untill now.:rolleyes::confused:

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:31 PM
Too bad Federer is not playing Montañés! LOL

Sillyrabbit
05-21-2010, 02:33 PM
The highest ranked player Rafa has beaten in these rescent 3 masters except from Fed is Verdasco, and that about sums up Rafas clown draws all together. He isn't near his form for a few years ago but keeps getting clown draws and also Gonzo, Davy, Delpo have been injured. I mean Gulbis was a couple of points away from winning in Rome so that pretty much sums it up that Rafa is still fragile, but keeps getting so lucky. Fed was a point here and there from beating him but wasted alot of BP.s, Game points and the 2nd set breaker.

He also was pushed around the court by Almugro and lost serve 3 times in one set before Almagro realised what he was doing to his idol and bent over.

And I'm left wondering what being "a point here and there" from beating someone when the match would still have to go to a 3rd set means? As if they haven't hard close matches in the past or Nadal hasn't beaten Federer being a set up and losing the next. Actually you'll find out the reason why the highest person Nadal faced besides Federer in the last month is Verdasco happened to be because the other top players are too busy getting injured or getting knocked out early before reaching Nadal, and you consider Gonzalez and Davydenko(on clay) as threats? Sure...

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:35 PM
He spanked Fed in 2 sets with 6-4 7-6 with a one point difference, go back and read the stats!!

Yeah it should have been 6-4 6-3 but Rafa decided to toy with Roger.:p He had not seen him in a while and wanted to catch up.

Anyways, I don't get, I am a Nadal fan and I do not go in every thread bitching about Federer and how last year he got a bye to the Roland Garros trophy, I mean he almost lost to Haas, who is a clay clown. Fact is I give props to Federer for winning yet all you insecure FED fans bitch in every thread about Nadal. Talk about obsessive. :o

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:37 PM
Hey GORGO 1986

He spanked Fed in 2 sets with 6-4 7-6 with a one point difference, go back and read the stats!!:wavey:

You are really pathetic saying that Sod hasn't done anything this season 2 Masters semis back to back at IW/Miami and a 500 title and a final in Barcelona plus a 1/4 in marseille!! + 2 DC wins gives him about 1800 points untill now.:rolleyes::confused:

I am just following your logic since you call Verdasco a clown and he has outperformed Soderling this season.(he even beat him at Barcelona).:wavey:

Heners
05-21-2010, 02:38 PM
Interesting Draw for the FO.

henke007
05-21-2010, 02:38 PM
Sure Fed got a Bye facing Delpo in the semis last year almost comparable as Rafa's Semi this year against Ferrer!!:o

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 02:40 PM
The players most likely to trouble Fed before the final are in Nadal's half. The players most likely to trouble Nadal (apart from Djoko, IF he sorts out his weirdo hay-fever problem or whatever the fck it is) are in Federer's half. That's why the draw is shit.

bokehlicious
05-21-2010, 02:40 PM
Yet he still spanked Federer in two on his least favorite clay tourney. :wavey:

2 tight sets is a spanking? How do you call it when Fed feels like dishing out bagels to Rafito? :confused:

Eden
05-21-2010, 02:41 PM
I don't know why people are bitching about cake draws

That's because you are quite new to MTF and haven't seen that it is normal that people bitch about draws, no matter if it is for Roger or Rafa :shrug:

I'm pretty sure we had the same comments about an easy draw for Rafa for last year's French Open - and we all saw how the tournament ended for him. Nobody expected Söderling to beat him.

It's highly unlikey that any of the player in Rafa's draw can beat him in a best of 5 sets match, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen.

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:41 PM
Anyway I wish Federer/Soderling luck, just like every other player. I do not hate any of the players on the tour, and I give mad props to Soderling for what he did last year. And Roger is one of the best, its obvious. Its just fun to mess with a whole lot of you. Who hate on Nadal/Verdasco/etc. in every thread. I mean you comment on them 24/7. You guys must be real fans;)

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:43 PM
The players most likely to trouble Fed before the final are in Nadal's half. The players most likely to trouble Nadal (apart from Djoko, IF he sorts out his weirdo hay-fever problem or whatever the fck it is) are in Federer's half. That's why the draw is shit.

Exactly well said. ;)

Sillyrabbit
05-21-2010, 02:47 PM
The players most likely to trouble Fed before the final are in Nadal's half. The players most likely to trouble Nadal (apart from Djoko, IF he sorts out his weirdo hay-fever problem or whatever the fck it is) are in Federer's half. That's why the draw is shit.

Like who besides Djokovic? The Spanish players? Everyone keeps talking about Nadal's strangehold in terms of h2h over the Spanish players, Federer's record against them is an ownage too.

ossie
05-21-2010, 02:50 PM
did some1 else notice djokers probable road to the final, poor guy :haha:

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 02:51 PM
The only guy I see who can trouble Roger is maybe Gulbis if he's really great for about 3-4 sets. Maybe Tsonga/Gasquet if they make it that far. That's about it. It's a pretty sure bet to be a Roger vs. Rafa final, even more likely than before the draw came out. Nadal will probably win all his matches in straight sets until the QF.

gorgo1986
05-21-2010, 02:54 PM
did some1 else notice djokers probable road to the final, poor guy :haha:

I am not saying Federer would lose to Verdasco/Ferrer/etc. but he would have a much tougher time with them on clay(lose some sets) than with someone like Soderling who he would take out in straights.

IMO with this draw we have ourselves another FEDAL Final!

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 03:01 PM
Like who besides Djokovic? The Spanish players? Everyone keeps talking about Nadal's strangehold in terms of h2h over the Spanish players, Federer's record against them is an ownage too.

I know, but Fed & Nadal own nearly everybody. While a Gulbis or Soderling *could* blast a 28-year-old Federer off the court, it's much more likely those guys will lose on errors as Fed beats them to the punch & they go for silly winners from defensive positions. The Spanish dirt-ballers wouldn't beat him either, but they wouldn't give the match away & he'd have a harder work-out, particularly if below top form. Conversely, Nadal will always out-grind grinders (e.g., Ferrer) & out-manoeuvre lefties with big forehands (e.g., Verdasco), but he can be vulnerable to a big hitter on a hot streak.

tennizen
05-21-2010, 03:05 PM
I don't think it's a given these days that players like Gulbis, Soderling won't trouble Federer.

Langers
05-21-2010, 03:10 PM
Federer/Nadal final.

Disappointing draw for mine. I wonder if people will shut up about Novak's 'cake walk' draws now...

malisha
05-21-2010, 03:13 PM
Gulbis will have a tough match against Marin no doubt about that

Cilic is a different animal at the slams

Sillyrabbit
05-21-2010, 03:17 PM
I know, but Fed & Nadal own nearly everybody. While a Gulbis or Soderling *could* blast a 28-year-old Federer off the court, it's much more likely those guys will lose on errors as Fed beats them to the punch & they go for silly winners from defensive positions. The Spanish dirt-ballers wouldn't beat him either, but they wouldn't give the match away & he'd have a harder work-out, particularly if below top form. Conversely, Nadal will always out-grind grinders (e.g., Ferrer) & out-manoeuvre lefties with big forehands (e.g., Verdasco), but he can be vulnerable to a big hitter on a hot streak.

I can see what you're saying, though imo the likelihood of the big-hitters troubling Nadal are way, way, way(x20) more likely than the Spanish players troubling Federer or beating him.

ad-out
05-21-2010, 03:23 PM
Gulbis will have a tough match against Marin no doubt about that

Cilic is a different animal at the slams

Yes I am quite worried about this possible match - more so than Soderling really.. :(

And poor Ernie - another Fed qtr if he gets that far. :sad:

Gonzalez88
05-21-2010, 03:34 PM
Last year Gonzo had a very easy draw. It can't happen each year.
ASEN DE LA MADONA!!! Australian Open 2010?? US Open 2009? do you remember?

Certinfy
05-21-2010, 04:03 PM
Nice draw for Tomas :bounce:

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 04:46 PM
Nadal is preparing his RG winning speech as we speak.

Start da Game
05-21-2010, 04:57 PM
it doesn't matter who rafael plays on clay.......sodermug should have been in his draw just to realize what his tennis life is without rafael's mercy.......

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 04:58 PM
Both Federer and Nadal will be happy with the position of Soderling in the draw.

Can anything prevent another Fedal Final?

Uh? What are you talking about? I'm sure Federer would have prefered to see Soderling in Nadal's quarter. Same for Gulbis.

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:02 PM
Verdasco is the 2nd clay player this year. Not that Rafa will have problems

After Rafa humilliated Tabasco 6-0, 6-1 in MC, Verdasco requested Rafa for a closer match next time they meet, so Rafa will be willing to give him a 6-1, 6-1, 6-1 loss in RG, if they happen to meet.

Kind man, this Rafa.

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:05 PM
nadal could have any player in his draw and people would say "easy" draw for nadal. nobody is a threat on paper for him.

There are not many players who can trouble Nadal on clay, much less beat him, but I'd have liked if he had to play against someone like Nishikori or Gulbis, maybe even Berdych and Gasquet. But it won't happen.

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 05:09 PM
People are talking about Soderling being a threat. Um................I could see him losing to Lapentti/Montanes/Q (if it's Chucho or Bolelli). Then, Gulbis/Cilic? I don't see him beating Cilic. I don't even know if Gulbis will beat Julien in R1 or Mayer/Stakhovsky in R2.

People are jumping the gun a bit. It's going to be a Rafa/Roger final. Unless something very unexpected happens, which I don't see.

Start da Game
05-21-2010, 05:10 PM
There are not many players who can trouble Nadal on clay, much less beat him, but I'd have liked if he had to play against someone like Nishikori or Gulbis, maybe even Berdych and Gasquet. But it won't happen.

there could exist a small possibility that ATP might have begged for mercy from FO organizers and asked them not to pit berdych, gulbis against rafa at roland garros.......rafa has a habit of destroying players' psyches at roland garros.......ATP needs gulbis and berdych very badly.......

Johnny Groove
05-21-2010, 05:13 PM
Anything other than a Fedal final would be a shock.

These guys are just head and shoulders above the field here.

theseth1119
05-21-2010, 05:14 PM
I totally agree, I'm expecting a Rogie vs. Rafa final.

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 05:18 PM
There are not many players who can trouble Nadal on clay, much less beat him, but I'd have liked if he had to play against someone like Nishikori or Gulbis, maybe even Berdych and Gasquet. But it won't happen.

Nishikori doesn't have the serve to keep up. He would get broken constantly.

Gulbis has never beaten Nadal and just lost to a Nadal playing poorly.

Berdych cannot beat Nadal anymore.

Gasquet has never beaten Nadal and isn't a power player. He would get worn down and beaten.

In the draw, I can see Almagro/Nando take one set. That's about it. I don't see Nole winning a set or even possibly getting to the SF. It's a cakewalk into the final, as is Roger's draw. It's pretty inevitable barring very weird circumstances. They are just way ahead of everyone else.

out_here_grindin
05-21-2010, 05:19 PM
Nishikori is not a dirt bagger. But his match with Giraldo will be very good. Giraldo will probably win

MIMIC
05-21-2010, 05:19 PM
Oh my fucking God. Gulbis is the 4th pick to win according the bet detective: http://www.thebetdetective.com/tennis/roland-garros-men%27s-singles/winner/

That's fucking great, but....wow still.

Sophocles
05-21-2010, 05:23 PM
With Del Potro out, Djokovic being weird, Murray crap on clay, & Federer Nadal's bitch at R.G., it's not looking terribly competitive I have to say.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 05:33 PM
Uh? What are you talking about? I'm sure Federer would have prefered to see Soderling in Nadal's quarter. Same for Gulbis.
Of all the top 8 players, Soderling is Federer's easiest match-up. He'll be much happier to meet him in the quarters than Verdasco or Tsonga.

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:39 PM
Of all the top 8 players, Soderling is Federer's easiest match-up. He'll be much happier to meet him in the quarters than Verdasco or Tsonga.

I knew you meant that but what I mean is that Federer, knowing that Nadal is the big fave and his biggest rival, would have probably wanted Nadal to face the most dangerous players for him -and those are probably flat hitters like Soderling and Gulbis.

That said, I regard Gulbis a very dangerous opponent, even for Roger. He barely beat him in Doha, couldn't beat him in Rome and barely beat him in Madrid (playing well at that point). An upset against Gulbis could very well happen. He's not the type of player who will bend over to Fed like Kolya in the Oz QF.

spanish_army
05-21-2010, 05:41 PM
Nishikori doesn't have the serve to keep up. He would get broken constantly.

Gulbis has never beaten Nadal and just lost to a Nadal playing poorly.

Berdych cannot beat Nadal anymore.

Gasquet has never beaten Nadal and isn't a power player. He would get worn down and beaten.

In the draw, I can see Almagro/Nando take one set. That's about it. I don't see Nole winning a set or even possibly getting to the SF. It's a cakewalk into the final, as is Roger's draw. It's pretty inevitable barring very weird circumstances. They are just way ahead of everyone else.

Totally agree, even I hope Ferrer could be semifinalist this year.
Federer can have some problem from 1/8 but I also think he'll solve them and will be finalist again.

Corey Feldman
05-21-2010, 05:42 PM
dont like Tipsarevic, Monf and Gulbis if Federror is on show

Gasquet gutted to draw his nemesis Murray

Luczak drew Nadal and Federer in 1st rounds of GS this year

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Nishikori doesn't have the serve to keep up. He would get broken constantly.

Gulbis has never beaten Nadal and just lost to a Nadal playing poorly.

Berdych cannot beat Nadal anymore.

Gasquet has never beaten Nadal and isn't a power player. He would get worn down and beaten.

In the draw, I can see Almagro/Nando take one set. That's about it. I don't see Nole winning a set or even possibly getting to the SF. It's a cakewalk into the final, as is Roger's draw. It's pretty inevitable barring very weird circumstances. They are just way ahead of everyone else.

Again, I don't think any of those would be able to beat Nadal in RG but I think they're amongst the most dangerous players he could face in or before the QF. If Nadal happens to have a bad day and any of those happens to have a great day then something could have happened.

It's too bad it won't, imo.

Almagro and Verdaco don't stand a chance in hell against Nadal. They will be lucky to win 4 games tops in any set against him in RG.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 05:43 PM
I knew you meant that but what I mean is that Federer, knowing that Nadal is the big fave and his biggest rival, would have probably wanted Nadal to face the most dangerous players for him -and those are probably flat hitters like Soderling and Gulbis.
Clutching at straws anyway. Federer would dismantle Verdasco and Nadal would thump Soderling.

ossie
05-21-2010, 05:50 PM
Clutching at straws anyway. Federer would dismantle Verdasco and Nadal would thump Soderling.
yea this was going to be a fedal final no matter what the draw

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:50 PM
Clutching at straws anyway. Federer would dismantle Verdasco and Nadal would thump Soderling.

Probably so but then again, people were probably saying the same last year :)

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 05:52 PM
Again, I don't think any of those would be able to beat Nadal in RG but I think they're amongst the most dangerous players he could face in or before the QF. If Nadal happens to have a bad day and any of those happens to have a great day then something could have happened.

It's too bad it won't, imo.

Almagro and Verdaco don't stand a chance in hell against Nadal. They will be lucky to win 4 games tops in any set against him in RG.None of the other guys you said have any chance either, and some would struggle to get even 4 games a set. Both Mucho and Nando have better chances than Gasquet, Nishikori and even Berdych. The only dangerous opponent for Nadal outside of Roger is really Nadal himself. If Nadal has a bad day, he would still likely beat all of them outside of Gulbis comfortably. Berdych 4 sets, Gulbis perhaps 5. I mean, not to be rude, but it's like people are grasping at straws to find something explosive to discuss. It's just not there.

paseo
05-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Cake draw again for Nadal. Soderling & Gulbis in Fed's quarter, and his worshipers Verdasco & Almagro will bend over in QF. If Djokovic doesn't make it to the SF (which I suspect he won't), then Nadal will lose an average of 7 games per match. Nadal is already training for Wimbledon right now. RG10 is a done deal!!

Damn!! And here I was expecting a great tournament. I know Nadal is likely to win this anyway, regardless of the draw, but at least make him play against players that have the potential to beat him....(whine, whine...whine......whine..)... F*ck it.

Hope the non-Nadal matches are exciting. And I'm curious as who will face Fed in the QF, Gulbis or Soderling or Cilic, maybe? And who'll face Nadal in QF, Almagro or Verdasco? But, first up, Murray vs Gasquet in the 1st round.

andy neyer
05-21-2010, 05:53 PM
If in the vbookie game the betting odds favour Roger greatly (as it will probably be the case), I'm going to put my cash on Gulbis.

I give Gulbis a 30% chance of beating Roger in RG. It could happen depending on what version of Federer shows up.

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 05:55 PM
I give Gulbis about a 40-50% shot of even playing Roger.

out_here_grindin
05-21-2010, 05:57 PM
I still don't think Gulbis is above an upset. Sure he has made strides recently but I don't think people should be penciling him into deep rounds already.

Jimnik
05-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Murray is in Federer's half at a slam for the first time in three years.

Corey Feldman
05-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Nadal avoids Soderling, Gulbis, Tsonga, Murray, wow.... talk about an easy draw ;)Nadal must be over the moon he doesnt have to play Murray or Tsonga on clay ;)

Filo V.
05-21-2010, 06:07 PM
I still don't think Gulbis is above an upset. Sure he has made strides recently but I don't think people should be penciling him into deep rounds already.

Exactly! Totally agree, hype machine is out of control. I'm not overly confident of him beating Benneteau. If he does, then Mayer potentially in R2 is tough. Then Cilic. So, I don't know if he can make it happen.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
05-21-2010, 06:31 PM
Rafa could not have hoped for a better draw than this. Del Potro and Davydenko out. Soderling and Gulbis in Fed's quarter. Djokovic playing like a girl so shouldn't put up any resistance in the semi (if he gets there).

Federer will clean out the bashers who would have stood some chance against Nadal (admittedly not that big a chance) and then lose to Nadal in the final for the 10000th time.

To be honest I think the only one who stands a serious chance against Nadal here is Del Potro, or possibly an in-form Nalbandian - and those players were never going to show anyway.

Smoke944
05-21-2010, 06:37 PM
When will qualifiers be placed?

Arkulari
05-21-2010, 06:37 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/2vtctag.jpg

It all points to a Fedal final again

rofe
05-21-2010, 07:44 PM
The only way Nadal loses this is through sheer boredom. I can already hear him singing:

:singer: "Bitches, bitches, million of bitches for me..." :singer:

Guy Haines
05-21-2010, 08:02 PM
Nadal must be over the moon he doesnt have to play Murray or Tsonga on clay ;)

:lol: though Tsonga would not be a fun experience in France, especially depending on how the courts play. He was way better at RG last year than I expected.

Mjau!
05-21-2010, 11:33 PM
I can't believe someone from the second quarter is going to make the RG semifinal.

out_here_grindin
05-21-2010, 11:42 PM
We could have a Giraldo vs The King 3rd round match :sobbing:

Topspin Forehand
05-21-2010, 11:45 PM
Djokovic is seriously being underrated here. He is Nadal's biggest threat.

Arkulari
05-22-2010, 12:00 AM
Djokovic is seriously being underrated here. He is Nadal's biggest threat.

yeah, he's super fit and in the best form of his life... NOT

00923
05-22-2010, 12:01 AM
Djokovic is seriously being underrated here. He is Nadal's biggest threat.

lol

Topspin Forehand
05-22-2010, 12:02 AM
yeah, he's super fit and in the best form of his life... NOT

He'll be ready for the biggest tournament of the clay season. He probably took off Madrid to be more ready and fresh.

Filo V.
05-22-2010, 12:06 AM
Djokovic is seriously being underrated here. He is Nadal's biggest threat.
Pics says hello.

Arkulari
05-22-2010, 12:14 AM
He'll be ready for the biggest tournament of the clay season. He probably took off Madrid to be more ready and fresh.

riiiiiiight...

In his first clay-court tournament of the year at the Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters, top seeded Djokovic reached the semi-finals with wins over Stanislas Wawrinka and in form David Nalbandian. There, he lost for the first time in his last five meetings to Fernando Verdasco, 2–6, 2–6. This was also the second-worst loss of his career. Djokovic again lost to Verdasco at the Internazionali BNL d'Italia in Rome, this time in the quarter-finals, 6–7(4), 6–3, 4–6. Djokovic later said that his recent form had been hindered by allergies for the last two months.

As the defending champion at his hometown event, the Serbia Open in Belgrade, he withdrew in the quarter-finals while trailing 4–6 to the World No. 330, Filip Krajinovic. He later announced his withdrawal from the Mutua Madrilena Madrid Open because of illness.

yeah, Nole is totally in the best form of his life and only tanked clay season to be ready for RG... :rolleyes:

Topspin Forehand
05-22-2010, 12:20 AM
riiiiiiight...



yeah, Nole is totally in the best form of his life and only tanked clay season to be ready for RG... :rolleyes:

Heard of taking the pressure off by underrating yourself? And maybe his form is off now but he has plenty of time to regain it with an easy draw.

Persimmon
05-22-2010, 12:34 AM
Djokovic is seriously being underrated here. He is Nadal's biggest threat.

Agreed.:unsure::scared:

Murray is in Federer's half at a slam for the first time in three years.

Yeah and at the slam where Murray has no chance of beating Federer:haha: You know how Murray never beats Federer in finals but only BEFORE the finals:o

MIMIC
05-22-2010, 12:44 AM
Djoker has been the guy supposedly flying under the radar ever since his 2nd round exit in London 2 years ago; the guy who has already won a slam, the guy that beat Federer, the guy not in the best form, but the guy that knows how to win. He's been that guy for 2 years now. He seems comfortable with the "guy under the radar" title as well as the "guy under the radar" results. And for a young slam winner with tremendous potential, that is pathetic.

Commander Data
05-22-2010, 12:47 AM
One thing is for sure, a draw made in hell for Nadal.

octatennis
05-22-2010, 03:44 AM
lol, i'm seeing giraldo in the semis for real.

gulzhan
05-22-2010, 03:59 AM
Murray V Gasquet!!!!!

Please no!

Filo V.
05-22-2010, 05:49 AM
Agreed.:unsure::scared:



Yeah and at the slam where Murray has no chance of beating Federer:haha: You know how Murray never beats Federer in finals but only BEFORE the finals:o

No offense buddy, but you seem CONSTANTLY scared and worried about Nadal this, Nadal that, his opponents this, his knee that. Like, annoyingly constant complaining. If you are a Nadal fan, why do you show such little confidence in him?

A_Skywalker
05-22-2010, 10:06 AM
Totaly expected, Federer's half almost always starts first. Even when he was ranked n2 too.

The Top Half starts us off on Sunday

THE FOLLOWING MATCHES FROM THE TOP HALF OF THE MEN’S
SINGLES DRAW WILL BE SCHEDULED ON SUNDAY 23 MAY:
TIPSAREVIC v FALLA
MASSU v FOGNINI
CILIC v MELLO
BENNETEAU v GULBIS
MONTANES v GALVANI
ROBERT v KAMKE
RECOUDERC v SÖDERLING
CHELA V SWEETING
DEVVARMAN v CHIUDINELLI
ROGER-VASSELIN v ANDERSON
YOUZHNY v PRZYSIEZNY
YANI v LACKO
GARCIA-LOPEZ v SCHUETTLER
PATIENCE v DE BAKKER
OUANNA v KUBOT
BRANDS v TSONGA

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2010/903/OP.pdf

Commander Data
05-22-2010, 11:24 AM
Totaly expected, Federer's half almost always starts first. Even when he was ranked n2 too.

It is called the GOAT-conspiracy.

A_Skywalker
05-22-2010, 11:25 AM
It is called the GOAT-conspiracy.

Yeah, it is, USO 08 ;)

Commander Data
05-22-2010, 11:31 AM
Yeah, it is, USO 08 ;)

Outrageous!

Roamed
05-22-2010, 01:42 PM
This may or may not be interesting but it's certainly unusual, Federer is the only slam winner in his half.

A_Skywalker
05-22-2010, 02:01 PM
Outrageous!

Outrageous is your blindness.

Start da Game
05-22-2010, 02:37 PM
This may or may not be interesting but it's certainly unusual, Federer is the only slam winner in his half.

ever had any doubts? fed will only have cup cake draws.......otherwise it's not possible to entertain the sheep who cannot watch a slam final without him.......it's just pathetic for djokovic that he is being dumped time and again in nadal's half at the FO.......can you believe that this is the 4th time in 5 years?

the only one that really matters to rafa or fed in this slam is djokovic and does it surprise anyone that he's in nadal's half yet again? people who say fed's draw is tougher have absolutely no clue of what a tough draw means.......to think soderling and murray are tough on clay is just downright insult at fed who can actually play some tennis on clay.......

Topspin Forehand
05-22-2010, 02:57 PM
ever had any doubts? fed will only have cup cake draws.......otherwise it's not possible to entertain the sheep who cannot watch a slam final without him.......it's just pathetic for djokovic that he is being dumped time and again in nadal's half at the FO.......can you believe that this is the 4th time in 5 years?

the only one that really matters to rafa or fed in this slam is djokovic and does it surprise anyone that he's in nadal's half yet again? people who say fed's draw is tougher have absolutely no clue of what a tough draw means.......to think soderling and murray are tough on clay is just downright insult at fed who can actually play some tennis on clay.......
Best post. Djokovic historically is by far the third best clay courter and it wouldn't surprise if he got to the Semis again despite the poor season he had. Soderling is just a one final wonder. It's an insult to Djokovic to think Soderling is better.

gusavo
05-22-2010, 03:04 PM
the only one that really matters to rafa or fed in this slam is djokovic and does it surprise anyone that he's in nadal's half yet again?
lol what

Eden
05-22-2010, 03:17 PM
ever had any doubts? fed will only have cup cake draws.......otherwise it's not possible to entertain the sheep who cannot watch a slam final without him.......

Ever thought that Roger might be a better player as you give him credit for?

Would a player as Verdasco or Ferrer, who have never beaten Roger so far, pose more of a threat to him as someone like Gulbis, who has recently beaten him?

Start da Game
05-22-2010, 03:29 PM
Ever thought that Roger might be a better player as you give him credit for?

Would a player as Verdasco or Ferrer, who have never beaten Roger so far, pose more of a threat to him as someone like Gulbis, who has recently beaten him?

you mean to say nadal has an easier draw? next year let's have all del potro, djokovic, murray, whoever you name it and nadal......all in one half.......there's no tougher draw to nadal on clay, especially at the FO.......

the concern here is about the young serbian pride who's possibly being denied runner plates, and the enthusiastic tennis fans are being denied thrilling 5 set french finals.......

knowing that he has to overcome nadal in a semis once again, is itself disheartening for the young player when you consider the number of times he had run into nadal and bit the dust.......if it were a final meeting, he would play with a sense of passion because he knows he will at least have something to show finally, i.e, a runner up roland garros plate.......

i am sure that shouldn't be his attitude but it's too much of a burden to play nadal this many times in semifinals on clay.......

Eden
05-22-2010, 03:47 PM
you mean to say nadal has an easier draw?

You said Roger would have a cupcake draw again. Well, a lot of people say the same about Rafa's draw.

This is how it is on MTF: People prefer to complain about other players draws instead of accepting that some players are just good. On paper a player with the playing style of Gulbis or Söderling, who are in Roger's draw, seem to be more of a threat to Rafa. Would they beat him in a best of 5 match on clay? Unlikely.

Rafa's record against the Spanish players speak for itself, but check Roger's h2h against them as well.


next year let's have all del potro, djokovic, murray, whoever you name it and nadal......all in one half.......there's no tougher draw to nadal on clay, especially at the FO.......

Del Potro has been in Roger's draw last year, Djokovic also, Murray is now in Roger's half. Beside this, you just get either of Djokovic or Murray in a half ;)

There's not really a tough draw for Rafa on clay. He is a class above other players on this surface. It's up to the other players to challenge him.

The same has been said about Roger's draws at the USO or Wimbledon during his really dominant years.


the concern here is about the young serbian pride who's possibly being denied runner plates, and the enthusiastic tennis fans are being denied thrilling 5 set french finals.......

knowing that he has to overcome nadal in a semis once again, is itself disheartening for the young player when you consider the number of times he had run into nadal and bit the dust.......if it were a final meeting, he would play with a sense of passion because he knows he will at least have something to show finally, i.e, a runner up roland garros plate.......

i am sure that shouldn't be his attitude but it's too much of a burden to play nadal this many times in semifinals on clay.......

Djokovic has been in Roger's half of RG last year and after his performances during the clay season lots of people had high expectations in him. Then he lost to Kohlschreiber at the French Open.

Now it's up to you to name why he didn't made it to the final of Paris, even though he didn't had to play against Rafa in a possible SF?

Novak hasn't been really consistent for quite a while now. The reasons for this have been discussed several times on this forum.

It would be stupid to write him off, even though he had problems with his health lately. Roger for example named Novak one of the favourites for Paris.

Persimmon
05-22-2010, 03:50 PM
This may or may not be interesting but it's certainly unusual, Federer is the only slam winner in his half.

ZOMG the draw is fixed:eek:

Persimmon
05-22-2010, 03:58 PM
No offense buddy, but you seem CONSTANTLY scared and worried about Nadal this, Nadal that, his opponents this, his knee that. Like, annoyingly constant complaining. If you are a Nadal fan, why do you show such little confidence in him?

When was the last time Rafa reached a slam final? Why hasn't Rafa reached a slam final in more than a year?:o

Filo V.
05-22-2010, 03:59 PM
When was the last time Rafa reached a slam final? Why hasn't Rafa reached a slam final in more than a year?:o

This is not the past. This is the here and the now. Rafa has put the past behind him and dominated the clay season. Time for you to do the same.

Start da Game
05-22-2010, 04:06 PM
You said Roger would have a cupcake draw again. Well, a lot of people say the same about Rafa's draw.

This is how it is on MTF: People prefer to complain about other players draws instead of accepting that some players are just good. On paper a player with the playing style of Gulbis or Söderling, who are in Roger's draw, seem to be more of a threat to Rafa. Would they beat him in a best of 5 match on clay? Unlikely.

Rafa's record against the Spanish players speak for itself, but check Roger's h2h against them as well.



Del Potro has been in Roger's draw last year, Djokovic also, Murray is now in Roger's half. Beside this, you just get either of Djokovic or Murray in a half ;)

There's not really a tough draw for Rafa on clay. He is a class above other players on this surface. It's up to the other players to challenge him.

The same has been said about Roger's draws at the USO or Wimbledon during his really dominant years.



Djokovic has been in Roger's half of RG last year and after his performances during the clay season lots of people had high expectations in him. Then he lost to Kohlschreiber at the French Open.

Now it's up to you to name why he didn't made it to the final of Paris, even though he didn't had to play against Rafa in a possible SF?

Novak hasn't been really consistent for quite a while now. The reasons for this have been discussed several times on this forum.

It would be stupid to write him off, even though he had problems with his health lately. Roger for example named Novak one of the favourites for Paris.

last year's defeat was just a blip, djokovic was done after the madrid semis.......isn't it great for a young player to make 1 QF, 2 semis consecutively before losing only to the best player? yes, he got lucky the fourth time but wasn't he still too young to have such high consistency?

i don't want to repeat everything.......i am pretty sure you got what i conveyed.......4 times in 5 years is just unfair, no matter what the reason is.......

a thinker like fed would easily get disheartened and may as well not entertain reaching semis sometimes if he knew he would have to meet nadal in the semis every time and not in the final.......

Persimmon
05-22-2010, 04:07 PM
This is not the past. This is the here and the now. Rafa has put the past behind him and dominated the clay season. Time for you to do the same.

Yeah because the knees are only gonna get better as he ages:rolleyes::o