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MC 3R: Albert Montañés beats Mugin Čilić, 6-4 6-4

LocoPorElTenis
04-15-2010, 11:19 AM
The top 10 (except Roddick) is really sucking or injured at the moment.
Albert tried to choke from 5-1 up in the second but finally closed it down.

tealeaves
04-15-2010, 11:20 AM
bye Marin :wavey:

Ad Wim
04-15-2010, 11:20 AM
Expected. This is what clay does to a ball basher like Cilic.

orangehat
04-15-2010, 11:20 AM
Saw this one coming from outer space.

Montanes kept trying to choke though :lol:

At least Cilic isn't playing as bad as murray was, but both are still useless on clay.

Acer
04-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Ha ha!

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Cillic sucks on clay. Guess i won't be expecting much from him in the coming months

Jimnik
04-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Unbelievable. Great result for tennis. Monty. :worship:

Good to see David beating Goliath again.

philosophicalarf
04-15-2010, 11:22 AM
Same as last year, Fognini 62 60 Cilic here. Just really bad for his game. He'll have more chances in Rome and especially Madrid.

Mugdreev must feel pretty stupid now..... if he didn't already.

Greystoke
04-15-2010, 11:23 AM
the weather is muggy in Monte carlo

FlameOn
04-15-2010, 11:25 AM
Cilic should be Top 20 not Top 10.

rubbERR
04-15-2010, 11:25 AM
cilic sucks only claycourt surface? past weeks hes lost melzer and garcia-lopez hardcourts :lol:

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-15-2010, 11:27 AM
cilic sucks only claycourt surface? past weeks hes lost melzer and garcia-lopez hardcourts :lol:

well he made a grand slam qf and semi on hardcourts recently

adam10
04-15-2010, 11:29 AM
well done Albert~~~

cilic sucks

rubbERR
04-15-2010, 11:29 AM
well he made a grand slam qf and semi on hardcourts recently

fluke, beating injured murray us open and injured delpo and roddick AO

james82
04-15-2010, 11:36 AM
i knew this would happen ,i gotta get myself some clay court faves :lol:

christallh24
04-15-2010, 11:37 AM
:wavey:Marin! Better luck next tournie!

maxxo
04-15-2010, 11:38 AM
cilic sucks balls on clay

maxxo
04-15-2010, 11:39 AM
fluke, beating injured murray us open and injured delpo and roddick AO

http://9gag.com/photo/17942_full.jpg

fabolous
04-15-2010, 11:46 AM
monty just doing what he has to do.

Hewitt =Legend
04-15-2010, 11:46 AM
Expected result and good for the game.

Vida
04-15-2010, 12:02 PM
clay always exposes lack of versatility.

oranges
04-15-2010, 12:11 PM
What was he doing up to 5:1? When I started to watch he played good.

Cilic should be Top 20 not Top 10.

You should stop wishing everyone would just drop below Dasco all on their own

FlameOn
04-15-2010, 12:25 PM
What was he doing up to 5:1? When I started to watch he played good.



You should stop wishing everyone would just drop below Dasco all on their own
It's not that. I like Cilic.

But at least Nando can perform on all surfaces, not just hardcourts.

philosophicalarf
04-15-2010, 12:30 PM
Kinda funny that Mugtanes almost blew the lead in the 2nd set, was 30-30 in the final game too. He might actually have lost from there too, only just crept over the line.

JolánGagó
04-15-2010, 12:34 PM
haaaaahahahaha :haha:

Bamos Gordo!! :rocker2:

-Valhalla-
04-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Cilic http://www.rogueburners.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/Dark/facepalm.gif

oranges
04-15-2010, 12:56 PM
It's not that. I like Cilic.

But at least Nando can perform on all surfaces, not just hardcourts.

It is, there's hardly anyone in top 10 or around it that you haven't whined about already, while at the same time posting about 20 times already how Nando deserves to be there. Deserves my ass. The surfaces "point" is such a lame one even if Marin were a total clown on clay, which he isn't. When Verdasco made the GS semi he was in top 10, now he isn't and unless he performs better outside the slams at least, he won't be. Get over it, others have outperformed him and I'd say will continue to do so for the rest of he season.

JolánGagó
04-15-2010, 01:00 PM
It is, there's hardly anyone in top 10 or around it that you haven't whined about already, while at the same time posting about 20 times already how Nando deserves to be there. Deserves my ass. The surfaces "point" is such a lame one even if Marin were a total clown on clay, which he isn't. When Verdasco made the GS semi he was in top 10, now he isn't and unless he performs better outside the slams at least, he won't be. Get over it, others have outperformed him and I'd say will continue to do so for the rest of he season.

marked.

Ilovetheblues_86
04-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Good Job Monty phyton.

beat Nadal please.

FlameOn
04-15-2010, 01:21 PM
It is, there's hardly anyone in top 10 or around it that you haven't whined about already, while at the same time posting about 20 times already how Nando deserves to be there. Deserves my ass. The surfaces "point" is such a lame one even if Marin were a total clown on clay, which he isn't. When Verdasco made the GS semi he was in top 10, now he isn't and unless he performs better outside the slams at least, he won't be. Get over it, others have outperformed him and I'd say will continue to do so for the rest of he season.
I don't know what you're talking about actually. This was the first time first in ages and ages I've mentioned the order of the Top 10 or Top 20 in any of my posts. :confused:

born_on_clay
04-15-2010, 01:22 PM
good win for Montanes

malisha
04-15-2010, 01:31 PM
expected as they come

not a bad tournament from Cilic at all

Corey Feldman
04-15-2010, 02:11 PM
surprising one

gulzhan
04-15-2010, 02:13 PM
:eek:

Har-Tru
04-15-2010, 02:14 PM
:worship:

Big Albert exposing the ballbasher.

Action Jackson
04-15-2010, 02:29 PM
Too good Fat Albert.

Why do people take RubeRRRRRR seriously. Rajeev Ram has more chance of RG success.

samanosuke
04-15-2010, 02:35 PM
Oh Marin you devil:devil: . You even succeed to impress me . Try to keep it up and the whole world will know for your greatness

RIboy
04-15-2010, 03:01 PM
vaaaaaaaaaaamos, Marin fuckin Cilic on clay- yeah right :haha:

Deivid23
04-15-2010, 03:01 PM
Marin can play well on clay in patches, still has a lot of work to do to gain some patience and consistency though

stebs
04-15-2010, 04:05 PM
Cilic isn't a mug on clay, just it doesn't suit his game that much and Montanes played a pretty good match to be fair. He will always be streaky on any surface, from 5-1 to 5-4 30-30 he was playing very well. Just have to wait for a good streak and people will be singing a different tune I would imagine.

DJ Soup
04-15-2010, 05:55 PM
cilic is an ON/OFF player on hardcourts and not dangerous on clay

paseo
04-15-2010, 06:08 PM
clay always exposes lack of versatility.

Yes. Montanes is Mr. Versatility. Come on, clay exposes lack of consistency, not versatility.

B.z.A.
04-15-2010, 06:10 PM
Ljubo 100000x > Cilic

oranges
04-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Ljubo 100000x > Cilic

Before turning 22, Marin already has a better record than Ljubo in his thirties in slams, need I say more.

B.z.A.
04-15-2010, 06:24 PM
Before turning 22, Marin already has a better record than Ljubo in his thirties in slams, need I say more.

;)
sure.
but look at masters.

oranges
04-15-2010, 06:31 PM
;)
sure.
but look at masters.

Why would I?

B.z.A.
04-15-2010, 06:53 PM
Why would I?

Why ? casue Ivan is better on masters events. Better than Cilic, Karlovic and Ancic together.
Btw their GS runs were quite the same. Ofc Cilic is younger, but he wont win Wimbledon this year, like Looby will.

samanosuke
04-15-2010, 06:57 PM
B.z.A. you are doing a Sisyphus work trying to explain some things to the wall

oranges
04-15-2010, 07:12 PM
Why ? casue Ivan is better on masters events. Better than Cilic, Karlovic and Ancic together.
Btw their GS runs were quite the same. Ofc Cilic is younger, but he wont win Wimbledon this year, like Looby will.

And masters events is what's of most importance in tennis player's career? Both Mario and Marin are GS giants compared to Ljubo and Ivo and always will be. Their runs weren't the same at all, but more importantly look at the win/loss record in slams and you'll get the picture. All in all that 10,000> is nothing more than a fanboyish mini-rant ;)

RIboy
04-15-2010, 07:28 PM
one thing is sure, Mugrin will never be top 5 player...enough said

samanosuke
04-15-2010, 07:41 PM
one thing is sure, Mugrin will never be top 5 player...enough said

He will never be top 10 again once when he got off

B.z.A.
04-15-2010, 08:11 PM
B.z.A. you are doing a Sisyphus work trying to explain some things to the wall
noticed :D

one thing is sure, Mugrin will never be top 5 player...enough said

he dont deserve that for sure!
He will never be top 10 again once when he got off

Yeah, but that will be next year when he dropps AO!

samanosuke
04-15-2010, 08:20 PM
Yeah, but that will be next year when he dropps AO!


You can be calm . He will drop from top 10 much quicker then you expect

RG 180 points
US 360
Bejing 300

Marin will do that . He is above mortals . Only sky is a limit for him

oranges
04-15-2010, 08:21 PM
What a team :lol: Good luck with that

B.z.A.
04-15-2010, 08:24 PM
You can be calm . He will drop from top 10 much quicker then you expect

RG 180 points
US 360
Bejing 300

Marin will do that . He is above mortals . Only sky is a limit for him

Ok but beijing is in Q4 of year, USO at the end of Q3.

oranges
04-15-2010, 08:42 PM
You do realize you're relying on him having Karlo's and Ljubo's typical GS results, instead of his typical results :haha: The irony is just too delicious.

ChinoRios4Ever
04-15-2010, 08:50 PM
good stuff from beautiful teeth

Henry Chinaski
04-15-2010, 09:24 PM
Montanes will chase every fucking ball and return it near the baseline...making Cilic to construct points again and again and again...until he finally makes an UE...and as Cilic rarely follows his good and deep shot with the approach to the net...he will be forced to start over

tough one for Marin he faces one of the beat claycourt players around and the odds are value on Montanes IMO


p.s.

Montys serve is not big but well placed and near the lines...doubt Cilic will rip every second serve and make it a return winner
Cilic is one of the best returners on ATP but he is best when need to return big serve into the court....different thing when needs to rip the slow one

i respect your opinion mate...but i think these 3 things will cut it

Yes Cilic improved and is improving every day...but just remember which players was often a problem last year...Robredo in IW....Ferrer in Miami....Fognini in MC...Monaco in Rome...Dev Varman in Washington....all of them counterpunchers with quick feet...and patience mixed with deep balls...i always thought that kind of player is a trouble matchup for Marin....i think he fancy power players where his solid defence(great defender for his height) can be the decisive factor.

Montanes was solid against Seppi...you can not expect him to beat someone easily....he just do not have the tools to do that...but the one thing he can do...is to chase every ball down and just stay solid...he always plays the same game...it can be Seppi,Cilic or Federer...he cant change his style or beat any opponent easily.

this malisha is good.

props to Fat Albert. makes the most out his ability for sure.

Bad Religion
04-16-2010, 01:45 AM
Cilic isn't a mug on clay

Exactly , this fucking tool Cilic is a mug on every surface , not only on clay

Anyway , great result for tennis :yeah:

roberthenman
04-16-2010, 02:28 AM
Nice victory Albert...now for Verdasco :rocker2:

Rafter_forever
04-16-2010, 05:44 AM
I'worng but Cilic!!! C'mon, he can't lose this match. Montañes is horrible jaja

malisha
04-16-2010, 12:02 PM
this malisha is good.

props to Fat Albert. makes the most out his ability for sure.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Henry Chinaski again

Action Jackson
04-16-2010, 12:18 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Henry Chinaski again

When Fat Albert started on tour, he had no backhand at all and for him to win 4 titles he has improved in the last few years and getting rewarded.

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 01:49 PM
I can't understand this debate . Montanes is a solid player( specially on clay) and hard worker but even when is on fire he isn't the real threat to the big guns . All credits to Monatnes for the win but he won because of pathetic display from other side of the court . And I can understand why that many people are surprised with the result ? Are they blind or they don't want to admit to himself that Clic isn't the real deal ??? :confused:

B.z.A.
04-16-2010, 01:53 PM
I can't understand this debate . Montanes is a solid player( specially on clay) and hard worker but even when is on fire he isn't the real threat to the big guns . All credits to Monatnes for the win but he won because of pathetic display from other side of the court . And I can understand why that many people are surprised with the result ? Are they blind or they don't want to admit to himself that Clic isn't the real deal ??? :confused:

Good post! Cilic is not in good form and that it. And he is not the real deal. they'll see

oranges
04-16-2010, 02:52 PM
So what defines this real deal in the mind of great pundit samanosuke? :lol: Just curious, what is it that in your opinion he won't achieve, where is that ceiling, both out of curiosity and as future reference?

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 03:04 PM
So what defines this real deal in the mind of great pundit samanosuke? :lol: Just curious, what is it that in your opinion he won't achieve, where is that ceiling, both out of curiosity and as future reference?

Surely not a player who lost almost every close match , who chokes time after time , who plays breakers on this Cilic's ways , who can't beat in form player , who can't win must win matches without problems , who can't change anything when the things go wrong ....

He won't achieve masters 1000 title , not even level 500 title , GS 1/2 never again ...

malisha
04-16-2010, 03:12 PM
this thread will be bumped during Wimbeldon or Us Open

then the bashers will need to shut their mouth yet again

Deivid23
04-16-2010, 03:17 PM
;)
sure.
but look at masters.

Cilic won´t wait till he´s on his thirties to win a Masters tournament. He won´t be able to beat choking mugs on his fifties like Ljubo though

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 03:19 PM
this thread will be bumped during Wimbeldon or Us Open

then the bashers will need to shut their mouth yet again

I am living for that day :haha:

B.z.A.
04-16-2010, 03:21 PM
Cilic won´t wait till he´s on his thirties to win a Masters tournament. He won´t be able to beat choking mugs on his fifties like Ljubo though

:worship:

oranges
04-16-2010, 03:27 PM
He won't achieve masters 1000 title , not even level 500 title , GS 1/2 never again ...

Oh boy, you made it easy to mock you senseless pretty soon, should have made it more ambitious. Thanks :kiss:

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 03:30 PM
Oh boy, you made it easy to mock you senseless pretty soon, should have made it more ambitious. Thanks :kiss:

What did you think ? That I am talking about multiple GS winner?? :haha:

oranges
04-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Oh wise samanosuke, since you're so certain, perhaps you'd bet on self-banning?

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 03:36 PM
Oh wise samanosuke, since you're so certain, perhaps you'd bet on self-banning?

Since I saw with which mug I have to deal with

oranges
04-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Since I saw with which mug I have to deal with

Is that a yes? If he wins a 500, masters or makes a GS semi, you'll self-ban yourself permanently? I mean it's certain, not like you're risking anything, right? :lol:

samanosuke
04-16-2010, 03:41 PM
About a 500 depends which players he beat on the road to the title . About masters 1000 or GS 1/2 you have my word

tennisfaNo1
04-16-2010, 03:44 PM
About a 500 depends which players he beat on the road to the title . About masters 1000 or GS 1/2 you have my word

:worship:

oranges
04-16-2010, 04:48 PM
About a 500 depends which players he beat on the road to the title . About masters 1000 or GS 1/2 you have my word

Oh, joy :lol:

daddy
10-11-2014, 02:12 PM
I can't understand this debate . Montanes is a solid player( specially on clay) and hard worker but even when is on fire he isn't the real threat to the big guns . All credits to Monatnes for the win but he won because of pathetic display from other side of the court . And I can understand why that many people are surprised with the result ? Are they blind or they don't want to admit to himself that Clic isn't the real deal ??? :confused:

So what defines this real deal in the mind of great pundit samanosuke? :lol: Just curious, what is it that in your opinion he won't achieve, where is that ceiling, both out of curiosity and as future reference?

Surely not a player who lost almost every close match , who chokes time after time , who plays breakers on this Cilic's ways , who can't beat in form player , who can't win must win matches without problems , who can't change anything when the things go wrong ....

He won't achieve masters 1000 title , not even level 500 title , GS 1/2 never again ...

Oh boy, you made it easy to mock you senseless pretty soon, should have made it more ambitious. Thanks :kiss:

What did you think ? That I am talking about multiple GS winner?? :haha:

Oh wise samanosuke, since you're so certain, perhaps you'd bet on self-banning?

Since I saw with which mug I have to deal with

Is that a yes? If he wins a 500, masters or makes a GS semi, you'll self-ban yourself permanently? I mean it's certain, not like you're risking anything, right? :lol:

About a 500 depends which players he beat on the road to the title . About masters 1000 or GS 1/2 you have my word

Oh, joy :lol:

:devil:

Sauletekis
10-11-2014, 02:15 PM
Exposed once again. Love it. And beating his hero on the way to it.