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Which clay titles will Rafa win...

theseth1119
04-12-2010, 12:34 AM
Monte Carlo
Barcelona
Rome
Madrid
French Open

I think the first two are real possibilities, but the last three will really be tough because they'll have all of the players there or close to it including Rogie. I think a lot out there forget how good Rogie is on clay. Rogie will likely win: Rome, Estroil, Madrid, and the French Open.

Fiberlight1
04-12-2010, 12:35 AM
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theseth1119
04-12-2010, 12:51 AM
You're delusional if you think Rafa's going 27-0 (5-0 at Monte Carlo, 5-0 at Barcelona, 5-0 at Rome, 5-0 at Madrid, and 7-0 at the French Open). He's not winning all 5 events. A guy doesn't go over 11 months without a title and then win 5 tournaments in a row. He's still likely to be good on clay, but not the beast on clay we knew him to be. After all, these 5 tournaments last year he finished 22-2 and while that's great a few years ago he won like what 81 straight on clay. Those days are long over.

Roamed
04-12-2010, 12:58 AM
I think he'll win Monte Carlo, Barcelona and the FO with slightly more of a chance of an upset in Rome and particularly Madrid because he doesn't like the conditions much, but we haven't seen him play on clay yet this season so I'm going to wait and see how he does in Monte Carlo before placing any bets.

TennisOnWood
04-12-2010, 01:00 AM
Monte Carlo
Barcelona
Rome
French Open

Madrid is not important

theseth1119
04-12-2010, 01:07 AM
Lol he's not winning 4 of the 5, no way, no how. Barcelona's mostly a joke of a draw, so likely there (only Sodie can stop him), a few challenges in Monte Carlo, but even there he can win, but Rome, Madrid, and the French Open will all have Rogie and more of the top 10 there (guys he's not really beating anymore) so they are likely to be curtains for him around the QF/SF/F.

andy neyer
04-12-2010, 01:11 AM
MC
Barcelona
Rome
Roland Garros

Same as what Nadal_Power said really.

moon language
04-12-2010, 01:42 AM
He'll half-ass Madrid and not win it.

theseth1119
04-12-2010, 02:10 AM
Lol at Rafa winning Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, and the French Open.

emotion
04-12-2010, 02:13 AM
I see Barcelona with Soderling and Davydenko both returning from injury

out_here_grindin
04-12-2010, 03:03 AM
He'll half-ass Madrid and not win it.

Could be enough these days.

M4RC
04-12-2010, 03:21 AM
Lol at Rafa winning Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, and the French Open.

LOL at you, really. You're hilarious.

Fiberlight1
04-12-2010, 03:36 AM
It's even funnier that you think Fed will win 2 MS series even though he couldn't care less at these events..

Persimmon
04-12-2010, 03:45 AM
Nadal will win one of the clay Masters Series and Roland Garros. So, 2 titles.

theseth1119
04-12-2010, 03:49 AM
That's more realistic, 2 of the 5, that I can see, but probably Monte Carlo and Barcelona, NOT Rome, nor Madrid, nor the French Open.

Persimmon
04-12-2010, 03:52 AM
That's more realistic, 2 of the 5, that I can see, but probably Monte Carlo and Barcelona, NOT Rome, nor Madrid, nor the French Open.

My crystal ball sees Roland Garros and another title(a Masters Series). :wavey:

theseth1119
04-12-2010, 03:53 AM
It's even funnier that you think Fed will win 2 MS series even though he couldn't care less at these events..

Not true, Rogie beat #5 Del Potro in the Madrid SF and #3 Rafa in the F; Rogie beat #4 Murray in the Cincinnati SF and #2 Chokovic in the F. That's two Master Series events he won in 2009 and against #s 2-5 in the world. He can beat the top guys when he wants to you know.

Fiberlight1
04-12-2010, 04:07 AM
Not true, Rogie beat #5 Del Potro in the Madrid SF and #3 Rafa in the F; Rogie beat #4 Murray in the Cincinnati SF and #2 Chokovic in the F. That's two Master Series events he won in 2009 and against #s 2-5 in the world. He can beat the top guys when he wants to you know.

IW and Miami, 'nuff said.. We shouldn't expect him to do better at these events, losing to Baghdatis and Berdych.

paseo
04-12-2010, 05:00 AM
Monte Carlo
Barcelona
Rome
Madrid
French Open

I think the first two are real possibilities, but the last three will really be tough because they'll have all of the players there or close to it including Rogie. I think a lot out there forget how good Rogie is on clay. Rogie will likely win: Rome, Estroil, Madrid, and the French Open.

I think Nadal won't win all five of them, too. But, Fed is NOT gonna win four clay titles (2 MS, 1 250, 1 GS) this season like you said.
As for Nadal :
-Monte Carlo (Likely)
-Barcelona (Defintely)
-Rome (Yes)
-Madrid (No)
-French Open (No) --> yeah, I'm sticking my neck out on this one.

coffeenomore
04-12-2010, 05:54 AM
Only those where Rogie won't participate.:zzz:
We all know that he is done even for clay and only some sort of a miracle might help him to win first (and most certainly last before another 11 months gap) tournament.:sad:

r2473
04-12-2010, 06:09 AM
It is hard to believe how many people forget just how dominant Rafa is on clay.

It usually only takes one tournament (or even just a match or two) to refresh everyone's memory.

The correct answer is that he will win all the clay court tournaments he enters provided he is healthy and give enough of a shit. There is a chance he will mail in a few performances and save himself for the French if he thinks he needs to.

Persimmon
04-12-2010, 03:20 PM
It is hard to believe how many people forget just how dominant Rafa is on clay.

It usually only takes one tournament (or even just a match or two) to refresh everyone's memory.

The correct answer is that he will win all the clay court tournaments he enters provided he is healthy and give enough of a shit. There is a chance he will mail in a few performances and save himself for the French if he thinks he needs to.

It's better for him to be the underdog. :wavey:

oranges
04-12-2010, 03:22 PM
Only those where Rogie won't participate.:zzz:
We all know that he is done even for clay and only some sort of a miracle might help him to win first (and most certainly last before another 11 months gap) tournament.:sad:

Can you say a double account?

Noleta
04-12-2010, 03:26 PM
MC
Barcelona
FO

Klaas_nalbandian
04-12-2010, 03:28 PM
4 out of 5 (RG included)

tennishero
04-12-2010, 03:34 PM
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg

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Fiberlight1
04-12-2010, 04:11 PM
http://lh4.ggpht.com/DamnThoseWiffyDogs/Rs9ZUEA8r1I/AAAAAAAAAOc/BF2BE3SL4Iw/QuiteRly.jpg

http://missathenahollow.com/blog/wp-content/images/O_RLY__Y_SO_SRS__by_Areyu.jpg

fenomeno2111
04-12-2010, 07:38 PM
Rafa will dominate clay winning 2 MS and RG...

tyruk14
04-12-2010, 07:40 PM
Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Roland Garros.

Unless Novak can find some form and Del Potro can come back from injury before Rome, Nadal is the serious favourite at the French. Just wait and see what he does to Novak this Sunday.

born_on_clay
04-12-2010, 11:12 PM
Rafa will win MC,Barca,Rome then he will skip Mardid (read:tank in 2nd round) and win RG

Mats68
04-12-2010, 11:54 PM
I believe he'll win MC and Barna without too much effort. Not sure about Rome since he'll probably be tired and his knees will be hurting. Depending on his result in Rome he might not even show up in Madrid. If he reaches SF or better in Rome he won't go to Madrid, since his chances of loss to Fed are higher there and to rest his knees before RG.
I think he learned his lesson from last year: Madrid is useless.
As far as I'm concerned I think he should also skip the Godó, but he has too much pressure from Spanish sponsors to show up there.

Mats68
04-12-2010, 11:56 PM
forgot to add: if he's physically at 85% or better there is no way he can lose at RG this year.

Mechlan
04-13-2010, 12:15 AM
MC, Barcelona, Rome, RG.

HarryMan
04-13-2010, 07:14 AM
Soderling - Nadal was not because of Nadal's knee but Soderling played lights out tennis for about 4 hours. He was painting the lines with heavy groundstrokes, his serve was brilliant, he managed to retrieve just about anything Nadal had to offer. Of course Nadal didn't play his best tennis but he played well enough to beat almost anyone else that day. Even for Soderling to repeat that performance will be a tall order.

Edit: Having said that I am hoping Federer retains his RG crown but Nadal winning it back won't surprise me one bit.

oz_boz
04-13-2010, 09:48 PM
He'll win 3 or 4 of the 5, the ones missing being Rome and/or Madrid.

TennisOnWood
04-13-2010, 09:55 PM
MC, Barcelona, Rome, RG.

Enough for 6th fantastic season in a row :worship:

Il Primo Uomo
04-13-2010, 11:37 PM
Why is he burning himself out in Barcelona? Why is he sacrifying Madrid for Barcelona? I just don't get it AT ALL! SMMFH

federernadalfan
04-13-2010, 11:47 PM
french open will be his this year
monte carlo, barcelona very likely
rome, madrid not so likely, depends on his condition and whether he will even play madrid

TennisOnWood
04-14-2010, 12:03 AM
Why is he burning himself out in Barcelona? Why is he sacrifying Madrid for Barcelona? I just don't get it AT ALL! SMMFH

Cause he hate to play Madrid on clay and made big mistake to even go there last year

anutam
04-14-2010, 12:36 AM
Monte-Carlo, Barselona, Rome

Il Primo Uomo
04-14-2010, 12:41 AM
Cause he hate to play Madrid on clay and made big mistake to even go there last year

OK but didn't he realise that Madrid was worth way more points and that if he hadn't played Barcelona he wouldn't had been that tired coming intoo Madrid in the first place?
Jesus we need you now! SMH

andy neyer
04-14-2010, 01:48 AM
OK but didn't he realise that Madrid was worth way more points and that if he hadn't played Barcelona he wouldn't had been that tired coming intoo Madrid in the first place?
Jesus we need you now! SMH

Tennis players aren't machines seeking to maximize points and profits. There are other factors, personal factors. Barcelona to Nadal is like Basel to Federer (who always ends up skipping Paris after having played a TMS and Basel in consecutive weeks). He won't miss it.

BlueSwan
04-14-2010, 08:32 AM
I see Nadal winning Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Roland Garros. I also see him winning EITHER Rome or Madrid. I feel that he'll be head and shoulders above anyone else on clay as usual, but he won't win all 5.

Commander Data
04-14-2010, 11:28 AM
Rogie will likely win: Rome, Estroil, Madrid, and the French Open.

Likely? -> Troll. Rogie first has to show that he can beat Nadal in RG before you call him the likely winner. :rolleyes:

Fed will likely win Estoril and Wimbledon, thats about it.

Start da Game
04-14-2010, 12:33 PM
montecarlo, barcelona and french open.......he might lose at rome due to fatigue or a minor injury and will skip madrid........ideally i would like him to skip barcelona and bag rome.......that way there will be enough spacing between the 3 big clay events and his chances to win all the three also increase.......

Certinfy
04-14-2010, 12:34 PM
MC and Rome.

Start da Game
04-14-2010, 12:39 PM
rafa will do just enough to win that french this year.......i somehow don't think he will repeat the mistake of last year.......i think he will skip madrid in the last minute.......

bokehlicious
04-14-2010, 12:42 PM
retaining Barcelona would be good enough...

Start da Game
04-14-2010, 12:43 PM
ready to bet on that? you should give all your vcash if he wins anything moe than barca.......i will do the same if u win the bet......deal?

bokehlicious
04-14-2010, 12:46 PM
ready to bet on that? you should give all your vcash if he wins anything moe than barca.......i will do the same if u win the bet......deal?

I don't care for v-cash, would you be up to bet real money on Roger only winning Estoril? :)

andy neyer
04-14-2010, 12:53 PM
I'd like to see Start da Game vs. P. Antonius in the RG final. Now that's a match-up worth seeing.


Or not...

bokehlicious
04-14-2010, 12:54 PM
Whose double account are you andy neyer? Henri Chinasky? fast clay?

:yawn: :zzz:

Start da Game
04-14-2010, 12:57 PM
I don't care for v-cash, would you be up to bet real money on Roger only winning Estoril? :)

i would bet my real money too.......i don't see him winning anything more than estoril........if you ask me he too is playing too much in less time.......rome, estoril, madrid and FO.......

bokehlicious
04-14-2010, 01:02 PM
you ask me he too is playing too much in less time.......rome, estoril, madrid and FO.......

Where is the problem here? It's not like Roger's game style was only retrieving to death with some grinding moonball, unlike some others that are prone to get burnt prematurely because of this :shrug:

andy neyer
05-02-2010, 05:21 PM
MC and Rome (almost) in the bag now.

Can he take Madrid?

Filo V.
05-02-2010, 05:39 PM
Whichever ones he enters.

andy neyer
05-16-2010, 03:31 PM
A final vs Federer? Madrid is in the bag already, imo.

Going as a fave for RG, this might be the first time in which he wins everything big on clay.

andy neyer
06-06-2010, 05:52 PM
He won it all.

Montego
06-06-2010, 05:56 PM
The best claycourter ever and whoever says opposite is a mug.

careergrandslam
06-09-2010, 08:26 AM
Lol he's not winning 4 of the 5, no way, no how. Barcelona's mostly a joke of a draw, so likely there (only Sodie can stop him), a few challenges in Monte Carlo, but even there he can win, but Rome, Madrid, and the French Open will all have Rogie and more of the top 10 there (guys he's not really beating anymore) so they are likely to be curtains for him around the QF/SF/F.

PWNED BEEYOTCH!

5-0 in monte carlo (no sets lost).
5-0 in rome (1 set lost).
5-0 in madrid (1 set lost).
7-0 in french open (no sets lost).

22-0!:wavey:

annihilation of the entire ATP tour!
1 man arse kicking machine!
man vs machine!

born_on_clay
06-09-2010, 08:40 AM
PWNED BEEYOTCH!

5-0 in monte carlo (no sets lost).
5-0 in rome (1 set lost).
5-0 in madrid (1 set lost).
7-0 in french open (no sets lost).

22-0!:wavey:

annihilation of the entire ATP tour!
1 man arse kicking machine!
man vs machine!

affirmative
I'm so happy all the haters are going mad now :o

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-09-2010, 12:20 PM
hihi Nadal won all Clay masters+Grand Slam.

Filo V.
06-09-2010, 03:23 PM
He won all of the big ones baby! Back to the top of the game and proving once and for all just how dominant he is on clay. Doubters are silenced.

Start da Game
06-09-2010, 03:27 PM
PWNED BEEYOTCH!

5-0 in monte carlo (no sets lost).
5-0 in rome (1 set lost).
5-0 in madrid (1 set lost).
7-0 in french open (no sets lost).

22-0!:wavey:

annihilation of the entire ATP tour!
1 man arse kicking machine!
man vs machine!

the whole ATP tour got bulldozed by the clay monster.......

Fiberlight1
06-09-2010, 03:42 PM
I don't care for v-cash, would you be up to bet real money on Roger only winning Estoril? :)

:haha: :haha:

Start da Game
06-09-2010, 04:06 PM
:haha: :haha:

agreed.......what a tool......

r2473
06-09-2010, 04:53 PM
It is hard to believe how many people forget just how dominant Rafa is on clay.

It usually only takes one tournament (or even just a match or two) to refresh everyone's memory.

The correct answer is that he will win all the clay court tournaments he enters provided he is healthy and give enough of a shit. There is a chance he will mail in a few performances and save himself for the French if he thinks he needs to.

Wow, Rafa is dominant on clay. Who wood-a thunk it?

Rafa will probably do very well in the two grass court events.

Then we enter into "What is wrong with Rafa" season for a while.

careergrandslam
06-09-2010, 05:07 PM
Wow, Rafa is dominant on clay. Who wood-a thunk it?

Rafa will probably do very well in the two grass court events.

Then we enter into "What is wrong with Rafa" season for a while.

hey well done on ur prediction on the clay season for rafa.

i didnt think he had it in him to dominate like he did.