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Monte Carlo Main Draw

ImmzB
04-10-2010, 12:03 PM
Main Draw:

[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) bye
Florent Serra (FRA) - Stephane Robert (FRA)
Ernests Gulbis (LAT) - Marco Chiudinelli (SUI)
Victor Hanescu (ROU) - [13] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)

[12] Tommy Robredo (ESP) - Horacio Zeballos (ARG)
Viktor Troicki (SRB) - Lukasz Kubot (POL)
David Nalbandian (ARG) - Andreas Beck (GER)
[7] Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) bye

[4] Marin Cilic (CRO) bye
Igor Andreev (RUS) - [WC] Simone Bolelli (ITA)
Olivier Rochus (BEL) - Andreas Seppi (ITA)
Albert Montanes (ESP) - [16] Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)

[10] Tomas Berdych (CZE) - Feliciano Lopez (ESP)
Qualifier - [WC] Richard Gasquet (FRA)
Julien Benneteau (FRA) - Qualifier
[6] Fernando Verdasco (ESP) bye

[8] Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) bye
Fabio Fognini (ITA) - Michael Llodra (FRA)
Jeremy Chardy (FRA) - Qualifier
Qualifier - [11] David Ferrer (ESP)

[15] Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) - Philipp Petzschner (GER)
Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) - Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)
[3WC] Andy Murray (GBR) bye

[5] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) bye
Nicolas Almagro (ESP) - Simon Greul (GER)
[WC] Bernard Tomic (AUS) - Benjamin Becker (GER)
Qualifier - [9] Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)

[14] Juan Monaco (ARG) - Qualifier
Michael Berrer (GER) - Evgeny Korolev (KAZ)
Qualifier - Eduardo Schwank (ARG)
[2] Rafael Nadal (ESP) bye

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2010/410/mds.pdf

ImmzB
04-10-2010, 12:04 PM
Easy Draw for Rafa!! Should make it 2 the Final defiantly!!

Deathless Mortal
04-10-2010, 12:06 PM
Can someone type it? For some reason I can't see it.

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 12:07 PM
Berdych vs Gasquet R2 :haha: :yeah:

orangehat
04-10-2010, 12:07 PM
Kohli has a good draw :yeah:

Wawa's and richie's :scared:

l_mac
04-10-2010, 12:07 PM
^^ Rafa has a lot of good clay players in his quarter. The other quarters, not so much. Schwank, Ferrero, Monaco, Almagro.

coonster14
04-10-2010, 12:07 PM
i can not see it...

orangehat
04-10-2010, 12:08 PM
hmm Misha's draw is ok too :rocker2:

Nalbandian might not be back to his best.

ImmzB
04-10-2010, 12:09 PM
Berdych vs Gasquet R2 :haha: :yeah:

:cool::cool:

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 12:11 PM
Is this some kind of joke, Berdych and Verdasco seeded to play each other again in only R3? :retard:

So pisstaking for me :mad:

Action Jackson
04-10-2010, 12:11 PM
Nadal will be miraculously fit and well in the process handing out the pain in this event.

vn01
04-10-2010, 12:13 PM
Early loss for Nole.

B.z.A.
04-10-2010, 12:15 PM
Ljubo in fognini's ferrer's and murray's side of the draw :S

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 12:15 PM
^^ Rafa has a lot of good clay players in his quarter. The other quarters, not so much. Schwank, Ferrero, Monaco, Almagro.I hope this is a joke, the players Murray, Djokovic and Cilic got are much stronger than Nadal's...

Action Jackson
04-10-2010, 12:17 PM
Linda loves a joke.

Becker vs Tomic on clay this one has claycourt clown potential.

born_on_clay
04-10-2010, 12:18 PM
^^ Rafa has a lot of good clay players in his quarter. The other quarters, not so much. Schwank, Ferrero, Monaco, Almagro.

+1

it's not easy :eek:

paseo
04-10-2010, 12:22 PM
Nadal's quarter is a joke! Lucky guy this Nadal. Not that it makes any difference, though. Nadal will plow through the draw with 70% of effort.
I was just hoping to see Cilic vs Nadal :(, but Nadal vs Murray is fun too. (if Murray makes it to the SF, that is) Is Cilic any good on clay?

born_on_clay
04-10-2010, 12:23 PM
Nadal's quarter is a joke! Lucky guy this Nadal. Not that it makes any difference, though. Nadal will plow through the draw with 70% of effort...

:eek:
you're a joke

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 12:24 PM
:eek:
you're a jokeKubot is a joke! :rolleyes:

paseo
04-10-2010, 12:24 PM
:eek:
you're a joke

No. You are :D

vn01
04-10-2010, 12:25 PM
And maybe not so early loss.It depends on the draw.Hope to see Final between Nole and Rafa

born_on_clay
04-10-2010, 12:25 PM
Kubot is a joke! :rolleyes:
yeah, and again Troicki :mad:

orangehat
04-10-2010, 12:26 PM
Cilic and Murray getting a bye on clay :spit:

Selby
04-10-2010, 12:27 PM
This is a 500 tournament really...

Stelle
04-10-2010, 12:27 PM
Gulbis got a crappy draw... How is Marco Chewy on Clay???
Hanescu v Wawrinka shall be interesting...

sweetymessi
04-10-2010, 12:28 PM
Main Draw
[1] Novak Djokovic (SRB) bye
Florent Serra (FRA) - Stephane Robert (FRA)
Ernests Gulbis (LAT) - Marco Chiudinelli (SUI)
Victor Hanescu (ROU) - [13] Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)

[12] Tommy Robredo (ESP) - Horacio Zeballos (ARG)
Viktor Troicki (SRB) - Lukasz Kubot (POL)
David Nalbandian (ARG) - Andreas Beck (GER)
[7] Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) bye

[4] Marin Cilic (CRO) bye
Igor Andreev (RUS) - [WC] Simone Bolelli (ITA)
Olivier Rochus (BEL) - Andreas Seppi (ITA)
Albert Montanes (ESP) - [16] Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)

[10] Tomas Berdych (CZE) - Feliciano Lopez (ESP)
Qualifier - [WC] Richard Gasquet (FRA)
Julien Benneteau (FRA) - Qualifier
[6] Fernando Verdasco (ESP) bye

[8] Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) bye
Fabio Fognini (ITA) - Michael Llodra (FRA)
Jeremy Chardy (FRA) - Qualifier
Qualifier - [11] David Ferrer (ESP)

[15] Jurgen Melzer (AUT) - Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) - Philipp Petzschner (GER)
Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) - Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)
[3WC] Andy Murray (GBR) bye

[5] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) bye
Nicolas Almagro (ESP) - Simon Greul (GER)
[WC] Bernard Tomic (AUS) - Benjamin Becker (GER)
Qualifier - [9] Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)

[14] Juan Monaco (ARG) - Qualifier
Michael Berrer (GER) - Evgeny Korolev (KAZ)
Qualifier - Eduardo Schwank (ARG)
[2] Rafael Nadal (ESP) bye

Hellraiser
04-10-2010, 12:30 PM
Cake draw made for Nadal, what an easy and nice can fortune be for Majorca resident.

coonster14
04-10-2010, 12:30 PM
finally...saw the main draw posted on another thread.

wow, Nole is screwed...i really cant see him getting to the final, even though i would love to see nole and rafa slug it out in the finals like last year.

but um...berdych and nando AGAIN??? how many times must they play each other???

looking forward to seeing murray va rafa on clay again.

hope rafa wins his 6th straight title here!!! :clap2:

*bunny*
04-10-2010, 12:38 PM
:(:(:(
I wanted a Juanqui vs Rafa final.....!

rocketassist
04-10-2010, 12:48 PM
Murray will lose to Bellucci IMO.

RIboy
04-10-2010, 12:53 PM
Nadal's quarter is a joke! Lucky guy this Nadal. Not that it makes any difference, though. Nadal will plow through the draw with 70% of effort.
I was just hoping to see Cilic vs Nadal :(, but Nadal vs Murray is fun too. (if Murray makes it to the SF, that is) Is Cilic any good on clay?

:haha:

Andreev over Cilic- bet of the year

Fedicilous
04-10-2010, 12:57 PM
Balanced draw. Either Nadal and Djokovic have good opponents.
Rafa has few clay court experts like Ferrero and Monaco.
Djokovic could loose early.

Of course, Nadal will get to the final, but he hasn't a easy draw.

Stelle
04-10-2010, 01:01 PM
Belucci Ftw!!!!!

philosophicalarf
04-10-2010, 01:07 PM
Gulbis got a crappy draw... How is Marco Chewy on Clay???


Really, really bad :-)


Hanescu v Wawrinka shall be interesting...

I like:

R2 Youzhny-Nalby
R3 Baggy-Cilic
R2 Berdy-Gasquet
R3 Berdy-Verdy
R3 Ljubo-Ferrer
R2 Kohl-Murray
R3 Almugro-JCF

B.z.A.
04-10-2010, 01:08 PM
:haha:

Andreev over Cilic- bet of the year

:yeah: Ill pick this one!

emotion
04-10-2010, 01:12 PM
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5968/screenshotatpiimssmdxls.png (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/screenshotatpiimssmdxls.png/)

emotion
04-10-2010, 01:18 PM
Gulbis vs Chiudo 1r

Just like heaven
04-10-2010, 01:25 PM
Gulbis vs Chiudo 1r

:wavey: troll banned from TW.

emotion
04-10-2010, 01:28 PM
1 It wasnt "trolling" that got me banned
2 I take it you dislike me?
3. I'd already had an account here
4. Temporary ban, I shall be back

HarryMan
04-10-2010, 01:34 PM
:spit:At people complaining about Nadal's draw, that guy has lost four matches in the past five years on clay. He will rip apart the draw as usual.

rocketassist
04-10-2010, 01:41 PM
Belucci Ftw!!!!!

Some Kohli fan eh? ;)

Amber Spyglass
04-10-2010, 02:04 PM
^^ Rafa has a lot of good clay players in his quarter. The other quarters, not so much. Schwank, Ferrero, Monaco, Almagro.

Two of those are Spanish i.e automatic bowdown even if they were leading 6-0 5-0 40-0(we got evidence enough of that in Paris Masters last year)
The other one is ultimate choker/headcase-Pico Monaco
and wait for it the last one is none other than an old fogie who just got fined for "tanking" last week
I like your sense of humour Linda :yeah:

l_mac
04-10-2010, 02:10 PM
Two of those are Spanish i.e automatic bowdown even if they were leading 6-0 5-0 40-0(we got evidence enough of that in Paris Masters last year)
The other one is ultimate choker/headcase-Pico Monaco
and wait for it the last one is none other than an old fogie who just got fined for "tanking" last week
Huh? All I said was he had a lot of good clay players in his quarter. Is that in dispute? :confused: Ferrero is one of the 3 players with a win over Rafa on clay in the last 5 years.

Who is the old fogey? Schwank? He's 23.

You'll notice I said nothing about whether I thought the draw was easy or not :)
I like your sense of humour Linda :yeah:

Most people do! :bowdown:

Aaric
04-10-2010, 02:12 PM
Great. Stanīs semifinals points :wavey:

Amber Spyglass
04-10-2010, 02:22 PM
Huh? All I said was he had a lot of good clay players in his quarter. Is that in dispute? :confused: Ferrero is one of the 3 players with a win over Rafa on clay in the last 5 years.

Who is the old fogey? Schwank? He's 23.

You'll notice I said nothing about whether I thought the draw was easy or not :)


Most people do! :bowdown:

Schwank is 23!! I always thought he was a journeyman :o -he looks at least thirty
Ok then he has a lot of good claycourters in his quarter :angel:
But it is an easy draw with maybe the exception of Ferrero

timafi
04-10-2010, 02:35 PM
no American player;as usual:tape:

Roger you could have played MC btw:mad:

ad-out
04-10-2010, 02:37 PM
Tomas/Feli R1. :(

Langers
04-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Benjamen Becker is going down!!

Topspin Forehand
04-10-2010, 03:10 PM
Tough draw for Rafa. Vamos!

Demonsky
04-10-2010, 03:13 PM
nole good draw..

Ad Wim
04-10-2010, 03:24 PM
Kohli has a good draw :yeah:

Kohli has a good draw?! He plays Bellucci in the 1st round :rolleyes:

Xristos
04-10-2010, 03:33 PM
Weak draw, If Nadal does not make the finals then I dont know what is wrong with him.

misty1
04-10-2010, 03:36 PM
why has bernard tomic gotten a wildcard for the main draw? he sucks on clay

i also thought i'd hard nicolas kiefer had been granted a wildcard and yet i see him nowhere on either the main or qualifying draw

pica_pica
04-10-2010, 03:52 PM
I miss Nole-Rafa clay fireworks sorely :awww: Though by looking at the draw, Nole can easily have an early loss. Please, Marian Vajda, take all the serving sh*t out of Nole!

pica_pica
04-10-2010, 03:53 PM
no American player;as usual:tape:

Roger you could have played MC btw:mad:
Wow, not even Sam Querry? I think he's decent on clay...

Arkulari
04-10-2010, 03:59 PM
good draw, Rafa is definitely going to win this :D

Lopez
04-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Murray will lose to Bellucci IMO.

Lots of possible upsets here, I call Wawa over Djoko, Bellucci over Murray, Andreev over Cilic and Ferrero over Nadal :p

Michael Bluth
04-10-2010, 04:56 PM
I'm torn over what to do in my draw challenge. Given Djokovic's craptastic recent form I am sorely tempted to pick Wawrinka to knock him out, but who knows? What if he recovers? What if Wawrinka chokes as so many have done against Djokovic this year? What if Wawrinka is tired after Casablanca? On the other hand, his good run of form in Casablanca could inspire him to do well, especially if he ends up winning the title.

I am definitely picking Bellucci over Murray though.

Pirata.
04-10-2010, 05:58 PM
Come on Feli, bagel Berdych again! Do it for Fernando!

Goldenoldie
04-10-2010, 06:07 PM
Murray has Belluci or Kohlschreiber, followed by Meltzer, followed by Ferrer or Ljubicic.
All matches in normal circumstances he could expect to win with his eyes shut, to set up a SF with Nadal.

This will show whether his slump continues or whether he has got himself back together.

Interesting times ahead.

Smoke944
04-10-2010, 06:10 PM
Murray has Belluci or Kohlschreiber, followed by Meltzer, followed by Ferrer or Ljubicic.
All matches in normal circumstances he could expect to win with his eyes shut, to set up a SF with Nadal.

This will show whether his slump continues or whether he has got himself back together.

Interesting times ahead.

Surely you can't really be this delusional?

Mateya
04-10-2010, 06:17 PM
Murray (Belluci?) - PHM in 2nd round :cool:
Nah, I think Mel(t)zer is too strong for him, except if he melts down like he can do. :)
Seppi - O. Rochus
FORZA, you can't get much better draw than this in MS events!

It will an interesting week, which will show us how Djoko, Muzza, Čilić any many others are feeling on clay or will they continue their slump. :wavey:

EDIT: Ups, I fu**ed up, too much partying with Potito :o
PHM - Melzer is to play with the winner of GGL-Petzchner in 2nd round. So, it's quite an open draw for one of these guys to make 3rd round, maybe even qurterfinal.

Tennis-Engineer
04-10-2010, 06:18 PM
The draw is open for Nalbandian to come through his side .

bhathiya9999
04-10-2010, 07:32 PM
No Federer No Roddick So this will be a Nadal or Novaks Title

oranges
04-10-2010, 08:15 PM
No Federer No Roddick So this will be a Nadal or Novaks Title

That is certainly crucial, it's not as if he skipped it even when it was mandatory. Nadal sighed with relief they won't be meeting in MC :lol:

~Maya~
04-10-2010, 08:16 PM
No Federer No Roddick So this will be a Nadal or Novaks Title

lol

Commander Data
04-10-2010, 08:40 PM
I can't take a seeding serious where Nole is seed higher then Rafa on clay.

Noleta
04-10-2010, 10:05 PM
Can't see Nole making it to the final with that draw.

Rafa should.

Persimmon
04-10-2010, 10:47 PM
No Federer No Roddick So this will be a Nadal or Novaks Title

:spit:

Aaric
04-10-2010, 10:50 PM
No Federer No Roddick So this will be a Nadal or Novaks Title

a)Roddick sux bigtime on clay
b)Nole sux bigtime on all surfaces atm
c)Federer doesnt care about ATP 1000

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 10:52 PM
If Roddick had come to MC I wouldn't of been surprised if he made it very far :o

oranges
04-10-2010, 11:08 PM
If Roddick had come to MC I wouldn't of been surprised if he made it very far :o

That's based on his whopping 2/2 win/loss record there in his entire career :lol: Had to check since it is being brought up repeatedly, played MC only in 2002 and 2003. I'd say he doesn't like it.

Certinfy
04-10-2010, 11:19 PM
That's based on his whopping 2/2 win/loss record there in his entire career :lol: Had to check since it is being brought up repeatedly, played MC only in 2002 and 2003. I'd say he doesn't like it.
Haha but with the quality of the opposition atm... :o

Wow, didn't know that, but then a little expected I guess :lol:

LinkMage
04-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Unbelievable this shit tournament gives 1000 points to the winner. This should be an ATP 500 at most.

So Rafito gets 1000 free points to pad his ranking up. :zzz:

emotion
04-10-2010, 11:57 PM
Poor tournament. The 500 after it is now better with 4 (or maybe also 3) top 8 players (Nadal, Davydenko, del Potro?, Soderling) to MC's 3 (Djokovic, Nadal, Murray)

simplet
04-11-2010, 12:07 AM
Tsonga's draw is unbelivable : Almagro-Ferrero-Nadal-Murray-Djokovic. I honestly wonder if it could somehow have been any worse?

emotion
04-11-2010, 12:10 AM
^ Nadal has a dream come true in Tsonga. The highest of the 5-8 seeds, yet the one he owns
Still, I don't expect Monaco, Ferrer, and Ferrero to just roll over... surely Ferrer, the single non-headcase Spaniard, won't do rare headcasing two weeks in a row

simplet
04-11-2010, 12:16 AM
^ Nadal has a dream come true in Tsonga. The highest of the 5-8 seeds, yet the one he owns
Still, I don't expect Monaco, Ferrer, and Ferrero to just roll over... surely Ferrer, the single non-headcase Spaniard, won't do rare headcasing two weeks in a row

I don't know if I'd call that a dream come true. I don't really see Tsonga get past Almagro and Ferrero in a row, and either of them could give Nadal some trouble, especially Ferrero, who's the one that will probably come through to Nadal.

emotion
04-11-2010, 12:20 AM
Almagro is.....Almagro. He'd be up 6-2 5-0 Ad-In and lose... JCF on the other hand could easily do some damage

Haelfix
04-11-2010, 12:33 AM
On paper, Nadal should have the advantage over all his opponents. One thing we've learned over the years is that Nadal beats grinders whenever he wants. He simply can outphysical anyone on tour.

The worry here is that he potentially has a lot of them in a row, so one wonders how much running he is prepared to take.

emotion
04-11-2010, 01:06 AM
Weird-ass twist of fate:

1r: S Wawrinka- SUI (13) vs V Hanescu- ROU

Nagime
04-11-2010, 02:17 AM
This will be an interessing tournment for testing the Bellucci's hability in clay season. He should pass quite easily against Kohli if he plays well, but will he? and in Australia, he lost quite easily, even if it was on HC (6-4, 6-2 i guess). And then against Murray, who is a better player, but is in a shit moment right now, and we're talking about clay...

But we can't forget how he lost 2 "easy" games in the US, and against Mello in Brazil. And outside of Santiago, still not won against a player ranking higher than him...

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-11-2010, 02:34 AM
Benjamen Becker is going down!!

i have to agree. Easiest match of the 1st round to call. I think this is where the Tomic era begins:worship:

B.z.A.
04-11-2010, 06:14 AM
i have to agree. Easiest match of the 1st round to call. I think this is where the Tomic era begins:worship:

I think u'll be surprised on way how is Becker playing :D

Machiavelli
04-11-2010, 06:19 AM
Cilic vs. Andreev, not a kind draw.....

I still hope that Marin will some day have better results on clay, of course faster surfaces are his best, but he grew up playin 99% on clay and he did win the French juniors title, does not have to
mean much, but still a great achievement....

LasT years loss to that italian eyebrow picker was disgusting....

B.z.A.
04-11-2010, 06:50 AM
Cilic vs. Andreev, not a kind draw.....

I still hope that Marin will some day have better results on clay, of course faster surfaces are his best, but he grew up playin 99% on clay and he did win the French juniors title, does not have to
mean much, but still a great achievement....

LasT years loss to that italian eyebrow picker was disgusting....

Marin has clay court near his house. He was playing there with his friends when they were little. He captured French Open, but his results this season are not good on hard, so I dont expect that he will fix this on his 1st clay tournament this year. Also he is not the best at masters series.

*Jean*
04-11-2010, 08:05 AM
good luck

Ernests Gulbis (LAT)
Viktor Troicki (SRB)
Lukasz Kubot (POL)
David Nalbandian (ARG)
Andreas Beck (GER)
Igor Andreev (RUS)
[WC] Simone Bolelli (ITA)
Feliciano Lopez (ESP)
[WC] Richard Gasquet (FRA)
Fabio Fognini (ITA)
[11] David Ferrer (ESP)
Benjamin Becker (GER)
[14] Juan Monaco (ARG)
Evgeny Korolev (KAZ)
Eduardo Schwank (ARG)

james82
04-11-2010, 10:54 AM
i have to agree. Easiest match of the 1st round to call. I think this is where the Tomic era begins:worship:

dont think its easy at all,Becker is a really good player
anyways i like them both so i hope they show it here in australia :)

Berdych vs Gasquet in the 2nd round if it happens could be a good one too

Klaas_nalbandian
04-11-2010, 11:02 AM
Good to have Thiemo de Bakker and Nalbandian in the main draw

Certinfy
04-11-2010, 11:25 AM
Why do they have 4 singles matches today? :confused:

james82
04-11-2010, 11:28 AM
Why do they have 4 singles matches today? :confused:

they always do the day before ,dunno why though
Luczak qualify's and Traver breaks :cool:

alfonsojose
04-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Nadal will be miraculously fit and well in the process handing out the pain in this event.

:lol:

docking34
04-11-2010, 06:32 PM
too bad a.roddick aint playing, i almost see him winning the event. no federer and probably no nadul. cakewalk from there.

andy neyer
04-11-2010, 07:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAhjGFr7eyw


Translation:

Monte carlo starts this yearís clay season, and it is the moment to verify if the feelings and good image left by Nadal in the last hard court tournaments can turn into his opportunity now.

To begin with, Rafa assures us that heís coming in to this tournament in much better shape than in previous yearsÖ

Nadal: ĒItís not like last year where I was in the semifinals and once I was there I couldíve easily lost due to some issues here and there. No, this year Iíve made it to the last rounds of the tournaments and I havenít won due to some small details and simply I just have to continue like this and itís logical that sooner than later Iíll end up winning if I continue playing like this.Ē

PiggyGotRoasted
04-11-2010, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAhjGFr7eyw


Translation:

Monte carlo starts this yearís clay season, and it is the moment to verify if the feelings and good image left by Nadal in the last hard court tournaments can turn into his opportunity now.

To begin with, Rafa assures us that heís coming in to this tournament in much better shape than in previous yearsÖ

Nadal: ĒItís not like last year where I was in the semifinals and once I was there I couldíve easily lost due to some issues here and there. No, this year Iíve made it to the last rounds of the tournaments and I havenít won due to some small details and simply I just have to continue like this and itís logical that sooner than later Iíll end up winning if I continue playing like this.Ē

So when he loses then his knees are going to be suddenly bad or he will be tired?

andy neyer
04-11-2010, 07:28 PM
Lousiest ATP MS I've ever seen. Restore Hamburg as an ATP 1000 and downgrade Monte Carlo to an ATP 500 status, a bunch of rich old farts seeking for way to avoid taxes is what they are anyhow.

oranges
04-11-2010, 07:42 PM
Lousiest ATP MS I've ever seen. Restore Hamburg as an ATP 1000 and downgrade Monte Carlo to an ATP 500 status, a bunch of rich old farts seeking for way to avoid taxes is what they are anyhow.

For the millionth time, MC is no longer really a masters. There's two masters to follow shortly. Hence, it does not have a proper masters fields and it will not have it in the future either. As long as they're willing to pay masters prize money and everything that goes with it, I highly doubt they'll cut the points to 500 series. For the rest, it already is considered 500.

coffeenomore
04-11-2010, 07:57 PM
Can't see Finito winning this one. The field is looking SO strong!!!

Ad Wim
04-11-2010, 08:11 PM
Nadal: ĒItís not like last year where I was in the semifinals and once I was there I couldíve easily lost due to some issues here and there. No, this year Iíve made it to the last rounds of the tournaments and I havenít won due to some small details and simply I just have to continue like this and itís logical that sooner than later Iíll end up winning if I continue playing like this.Ē

Is this a joke?! Last year he came year winning the AO and IW. This year he hasn't won anything yet :rolleyes:

Aenea
04-11-2010, 08:12 PM
Lousiest ATP MS I've ever seen. Restore Hamburg as an ATP 1000 and downgrade Monte Carlo to an ATP 500 status, a bunch of rich old farts seeking for way to avoid taxes is what they are anyhow.

Pff I am tired of posters here repeating this :rolleyes: As if the "real" TMS Shanghai last year was any better. People have short memory.

tealeaves
04-11-2010, 08:14 PM
Hanescu Wawrinka again

andy neyer
04-11-2010, 08:27 PM
For the millionth time, MC is no longer really a masters. There's two masters to follow shortly. Hence, it does not have a proper masters fields and it will not have it in the future either. As long as they're willing to pay masters prize money and everything that goes with it, I highly doubt they'll cut the points to 500 series. For the rest, it already is considered 500.

MC is officially listed as a Masters 1000 on the ATP website and as you say, it grants 1000 points to the winner and gives masters prize money to the players. It's certainly not cosidered as an ATP 500 by any means. The only difference between MC and the other Masters 1000 is that it ain't a compulsory event and thus some of the top players can afford not to play it without having to face potential point penalities if for some reason they can't play another MS later that year.

That said, my problem with MC isn't about the field per sť but simply about the history of it. Having tennis events in places designed for wealthy people like Monte Carlo or even Indian Wells gives the classic image of tennis being a sport for rich people and I think that the ATP should attempt to distance itself from that if it wants to reach a wider audience and following, imo.

andy neyer
04-11-2010, 08:32 PM
Is this a joke?! Last year he came year winning the AO and IW. This year he hasn't won anything yet :rolleyes:

He's saying that last year he was more unsecure about his physical shape and thus didn't know how his body was going to react once he reached the final rounds of each tournament. This year, however, he's feeling much better physically but hasn't been able to win a tournament due to "small details" but he's certain that if he continues to play the way he's playing, the titles will inevitably come.

Aenea
04-11-2010, 08:48 PM
That said, my problem with MC isn't about the field per sť but simply about the history of it. Having tennis events in places designed for wealthy people like Monte Carlo or even Indian Wells gives the classic image of tennis being a sport for rich people and I think that the ATP should attempt to distance itself from that if it wants to reach a wider audience and following, imo.
Based on that reason the first tournament that should be scratched from the ATP list is Queens. I haven't seen another more snobbish/elitist tournament that this one.

paseo
04-12-2010, 04:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAhjGFr7eyw


Translation:

Monte carlo starts this yearís clay season, and it is the moment to verify if the feelings and good image left by Nadal in the last hard court tournaments can turn into his opportunity now.

To begin with, Rafa assures us that heís coming in to this tournament in much better shape than in previous yearsÖ

Nadal: ĒItís not like last year where I was in the semifinals and once I was there I couldíve easily lost due to some issues here and there. No, this year Iíve made it to the last rounds of the tournaments and I havenít won due to some small details and simply I just have to continue like this and itís logical that sooner than later Iíll end up winning if I continue playing like this.Ē

So, there will be no excuses if he loses here.

Rafter_forever
04-12-2010, 05:36 AM
So, there will be no excuses if he loses here.

He always have an excuse.. I think that will win montecarlo easy, but if he lose, he will have an excuse for his defeat..

Just like heaven
04-12-2010, 06:16 AM
He always have an excuse.. I think that will win montecarlo easy, but if he lose, he will have an excuse for his defeat..

If he loses, there will be a reason, not an excuse. There's always a reason.
Whether that reason is an injury or not, you can't possibly know, so you and all the Fedtards should stop being so bitter because it's not good for the health. And you'll get wrinkles. :p

Rafter_forever
04-12-2010, 06:25 AM
jajja. A reason? The reason because he loses is because his oponent was better. He can has an ijury one, twice, but not always.. Already nobody believes in his injuries. No more Nadal's lies. He's a big tenist, but very bad loser

Just like heaven
04-12-2010, 06:39 AM
jajja. A reason? The reason because he loses is because his oponent was better. He can has an ijury one, twice, but not always.. Already nobody believes in his injuries. No more Nadal's lies. He's a big tenist, but very bad loser

Many times his oponent was better and he said so too. When he says that he's injured, he probably knows better than you unless you have some super powers that allow you to feel what others feel. Nadal is not a bad loser. But if he is, it's only because he wants to win a Sportsmanship award and he saw that in order to win one of those you have to be a bad loser.

Action Jackson
04-12-2010, 06:55 AM
People would whine because there is nothing to whine about.

Rafter_forever
04-12-2010, 07:13 AM
But if he is, it's only because he wants to win a Sportsmanship award and he saw that in order to win one of those you have to be a bad loser.

This is a Forums. This is my opinion. I haven't super power, I only think is unjust for his opponent that he says, when lose, "is accident" "I need play more match"

This quote is an stupid answer. I don't know what is relation with de topic, but well