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What players are going to be slamless and forgotten???

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 12:06 AM
Please only name player who CAN win one , not players that are obviously are not going to win one.

Chiakifug
04-07-2010, 12:17 AM
Well, every player can win one technically.

Action Jackson
04-07-2010, 12:17 AM
You.

federersforehand
04-07-2010, 12:56 AM
answer of the year, bravo

Pirata.
04-07-2010, 04:15 AM
Verdasco has the potential, but not the mental capabilities to win. Maybe he will be remembered for that amazing SF with Rafa at the Australian Open last year.

Nalby will be slamless but not forgotten.

Black Adam
04-07-2010, 05:09 AM
Tsonga will get one. Davydenko and Murray will always choke but will be remembered by betfair and the Brit tabloids respectively.

Kolya
04-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Ya mum.

Fedicilous
04-07-2010, 02:33 PM
Guillermo Coria.

The Argentine had(still has?) abilities to be a multi-slam winner. He should have won the Roland Garros 2004, and some other titles.
Unfortunately, the arm injury broke his career. 9 trophies is surely not enough for player with so great skill.
He will be remembered by current generation of player and fans, but I doubt that someone in 2020 will know who is this guy.

JimmyV
04-07-2010, 03:58 PM
Guillermo Coria.

The Argentine had(still has?) abilities to be a multi-slam winner. He should have won the Roland Garros 2004, and some other titles.
Unfortunately, the arm injury broke his career. 9 trophies is surely not enough for player with so great skill.
He will be remembered by current generation of player and fans, but I doubt that someone in 2020 will know who is this guy.

Nah, sadly Coria will always be remembered for his choke in the final. That was probably the single worst choke job in tennis history, people will always bring that up.

Everko
04-07-2010, 04:35 PM
You.

not as funny as you had intended

Har-Tru
04-07-2010, 04:48 PM
All slamless players will be forgotten sooner or later. It takes something VERY special to change that. Leaving aside the last, say, 15 years, how many slamless players does the average tennis fan remember?

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 05:02 PM
you can be slamless and remebered.

r2473
04-07-2010, 05:51 PM
With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten

1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB)
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
4 Murray, Andy (GBR)
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG)
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
7 Roddick, Andy (USA)
8 Soderling, Robin (SWE)
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO)
10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)
11 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
12 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP)
13 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
14 Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO)
15 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
16 Berdych, Tomas (CZE)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Monfils, Gael (FRA)
19 Stepanek, Radek (CZE)
20 Haas, Tommy (USA)
21 Isner, John (USA)
22 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
23 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
24 Monaco, Juan (ARG)
25 Querrey, Sam (USA)
26 Simon, Gilles (FRA)
27 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
28 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT)
29 Karlovic, Ivo (CRO)
30 Baghdatis, Marcos (CYP)
31 Bellucci, Thomaz (BRA)
32 Montanes, Albert (ESP)
33 Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
34 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP)
35 Lopez, Feliciano (ESP)
36 Benneteau, Julien (FRA)
37 Troicki, Viktor (SRB)
38 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB)
39 Becker, Benjamin (GER)
40 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP)
41 Andreev, Igor (RUS)
42 Kubot, Lukasz (POL)
43 Hanescu, Victor (ROU)
44 Chardy, Jeremy (FRA)
45 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT)
46 Mayer, Florian (GER)
47 Seppi, Andreas (ITA)
48 Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA)
49 Petzschner, Philipp (GER)
50 Berrer, Michael (GER)
51 Blake, James (USA)
52 Cuevas, Pablo (URU)
53 Beck, Andreas (GER)
54 Zeballos, Horacio (ARG)
55 Rochus, Olivier (BEL)
56 Fognini, Fabio (ITA)
57 Serra, Florent (FRA)
58 Greul, Simon (GER)
59 Chiudinelli, Marco (SUI)
60 Korolev, Evgeny (KAZ)
61 Schwank, Eduardo (ARG)
62 Mayer, Leonardo (ARG)
63 Lacko, Lukas (SVK)
64 Llodra, Michael (FRA)
65 Robert, Stephane (FRA)
66 Stakhovsky, Sergiy (UKR)
67 Gicquel, Marc (FRA)
68 Falla, Alejandro (COL)
69 Sela, Dudi (ISR)
70 Dolgopolov Jr., Oleksandr (UKR)
71 Nieminen, Jarkko (FIN)
72 Russell, Michael (USA)
73 Starace, Potito (ITA)
74 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
75 Luczak, Peter (AUS)
76 de Bakker, Thiemo (NED)
77 Marchenko, Illya (UKR)
78 Beck, Karol (SVK)
79 Istomin, Denis (UZB)
80 Clement, Arnaud (FRA)
81 Hajek, Jan (CZE)
82 Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG)
83 Giraldo, Santiago (COL)
84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)
85 Ram, Rajeev (USA)
86 Zverev, Mischa (GER)
87 Granollers, Marcel (ESP)
88 Golubev, Andrey (KAZ)
89 Malisse, Xavier (BEL)
90 Lorenzi, Paolo (ITA)
91 Schuettler, Rainer (GER)
92 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel (ESP)
93 Koellerer, Daniel (AUT)
94 Massu, Nicolas (CHI)
95 Darcis, Steve (BEL)
96 Brands, Daniel (GER)
97 Fish, Mardy (USA)
98 Lu, Yen-Hsun (TPE)
99 Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU)
100 Kavcic, Blaz (SLO)

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 06:02 PM
With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten

4 Murray, Andy (GBR)
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
8 Soderling, Robin (SWE)
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO)
10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)
11 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
12 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP)
13 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
14 Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO)
16 Berdych, Tomas (CZE)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Monfils, Gael (FRA)
19 Stepanek, Radek (CZE)
20 Haas, Tommy (USA)
21 Isner, John (USA)
22 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
23 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
24 Monaco, Juan (ARG)
25 Querrey, Sam (USA)
26 Simon, Gilles (FRA)
28 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT)
29 Karlovic, Ivo (CRO)
30 Baghdatis, Marcos (CYP)
31 Bellucci, Thomaz (BRA)
32 Montanes, Albert (ESP)
33 Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
34 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP)
35 Lopez, Feliciano (ESP)
36 Benneteau, Julien (FRA)
37 Troicki, Viktor (SRB)
38 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB)
39 Becker, Benjamin (GER)
40 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP)
41 Andreev, Igor (RUS)
42 Kubot, Lukasz (POL)
43 Hanescu, Victor (ROU)
44 Chardy, Jeremy (FRA)
45 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT)
46 Mayer, Florian (GER)
47 Seppi, Andreas (ITA)
48 Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA)
49 Petzschner, Philipp (GER)
50 Berrer, Michael (GER)
51 Blake, James (USA)
52 Cuevas, Pablo (URU)
53 Beck, Andreas (GER)
54 Zeballos, Horacio (ARG)
55 Rochus, Olivier (BEL)
56 Fognini, Fabio (ITA)
57 Serra, Florent (FRA)
58 Greul, Simon (GER)
59 Chiudinelli, Marco (SUI)
60 Korolev, Evgeny (KAZ)
61 Schwank, Eduardo (ARG)
62 Mayer, Leonardo (ARG)
63 Lacko, Lukas (SVK)
64 Llodra, Michael (FRA)
65 Robert, Stephane (FRA)
66 Stakhovsky, Sergiy (UKR)
67 Gicquel, Marc (FRA)
68 Falla, Alejandro (COL)
69 Sela, Dudi (ISR)
70 Dolgopolov Jr., Oleksandr (UKR)
71 Nieminen, Jarkko (FIN)
72 Russell, Michael (USA)
73 Starace, Potito (ITA)
74 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
75 Luczak, Peter (AUS)
76 de Bakker, Thiemo (NED)
77 Marchenko, Illya (UKR)
78 Beck, Karol (SVK)
79 Istomin, Denis (UZB)
80 Clement, Arnaud (FRA)
81 Hajek, Jan (CZE)
82 Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG)
83 Giraldo, Santiago (COL)
84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)
85 Ram, Rajeev (USA)
86 Zverev, Mischa (GER)
87 Granollers, Marcel (ESP)
88 Golubev, Andrey (KAZ)
89 Malisse, Xavier (BEL)
90 Lorenzi, Paolo (ITA)
91 Schuettler, Rainer (GER)
92 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel (ESP)
93 Koellerer, Daniel (AUT)
94 Massu, Nicolas (CHI)
95 Darcis, Steve (BEL)
96 Brands, Daniel (GER)
97 Fish, Mardy (USA)
98 Lu, Yen-Hsun (TPE)
99 Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU)
100 Kavcic, Blaz (SLO)

I love how you put all of the player in the 100 :worship::worship:

Har-Tru
04-07-2010, 06:11 PM
you can be slamless and remebered.

Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 06:13 PM
ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I think

jonathancrane
04-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

Maybe Rios
He's more known than let's say Tojo

Persimmon
04-07-2010, 06:23 PM
Davydenko for sure.

He can't even be remembered as a slam finalist like Coria, Martin, Soderling, Baghdatis, Gonzo, etc.

tennishero
04-07-2010, 06:30 PM
not as funny as you had intended

still quite funny :p

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 06:31 PM
Sad, But True

Vida
04-07-2010, 06:32 PM
it is crunch time for murray now.

DualMedia
04-07-2010, 06:39 PM
If he doesnt win won in the next 3 years, he will be slamless.

Har-Tru
04-07-2010, 06:46 PM
Maybe Rios
He's more known than let's say Tojo

Rios is the only example I can think of, and yet he's pretty recent, having retired in 2003 aged just 27. Let's give him some time...

of course, that doesn't mean that slam-winning players can't be forgotten.

ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I think

Martin isn't that well known and he owes much of his current "fame" to his TV and coaching jobs.

Start da Game
04-07-2010, 07:18 PM
Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

curren? mecir?

also when i posted leconte in the forgotten players thread, people said they are not forgotten.......

Certinfy
04-07-2010, 07:20 PM
ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I thinkIf u asked an average tennis fan if they knew who Todd Martin is, I bet most would say no...

morbo
04-07-2010, 08:37 PM
hopefully murray

lukeozade0405
04-07-2010, 08:48 PM
I agree with Duelmedia, Murray needs to win a slam in the next few years for sure.

Nathaliia
04-07-2010, 08:50 PM
Rajeev Ram will never be forgotten by the guys from MTF gamblers' lounge.

On the other hand, some people here already had forgotten Ferrero (slam winner after all) during his bad period.

As for Rios, he was #1. Very briefly, but he made his place in the history even though he wasn't really a slam player.

born_on_clay
04-07-2010, 09:01 PM
Davydenko and Soderling

FiBeR
04-07-2010, 09:08 PM
Verkerk is already forgotten

Pirata.
04-07-2010, 09:27 PM
With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten


84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)

:worship:

Har-Tru
04-07-2010, 10:58 PM
curren? mecir?

also when i posted leconte in the forgotten players thread, people said they are not forgotten.......

Does the average tennis fan know who Curren, Mecir or Leconte are?

Vida
04-08-2010, 12:02 AM
Does the average tennis fan know who Curren, Mecir or Leconte are?

yes

Har-Tru
04-08-2010, 01:16 AM
yes

No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

Stephan
04-08-2010, 01:35 AM
number of today slam-owners will be forgotten soon too...:)

oranges
04-08-2010, 01:35 AM
No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

You don't really expect "average" tennis fan to know any players they've never seen unless they won multiple slams, do you? They'll mostly know only those mentioned/featured as legends every now and then. A friend of mine is a casual fan, he'll watch when given opportunity for years, mostly just slams. I'm certain he knows both Leconte and Mecir, not sure about Curren. I'm also certain he has no idea who Pancho Gonzales is.

SetSampras
04-08-2010, 02:15 AM
This list is too long today.. Soderling, Davydenko, Verdasco just to name a few.. Hell Murray may never win a slam but doubtful he will be forgotten.. But I doubt he will be very remembered

emotion
04-08-2010, 02:26 AM
Davydenko will likely be slamless, but never forgotten. Possibly same with Murray, though less likely. Of current major players, gotta go with Dasco and Tsonga. Gonzo is memorable, Cilic will win a slam

Har-Tru
04-08-2010, 02:39 AM
You don't really expect "average" tennis fan to know any players they've never seen unless they won multiple slams, do you? They'll mostly know only those mentioned/featured as legends every now and then. A friend of mine is a casual fan, he'll watch when given opportunity for years, mostly just slams. I'm certain he knows both Leconte and Mecir, not sure about Curren. I'm also certain he has no idea who Pancho Gonzales is.

But that's a different story.

I said that slamless players are bound to be forgotten by average fans who didn't see them live, but that doesn't mean that slam-winning players aren't forgotten too. The average club fun today won't know who Andrés Gómez was, but they've heard of Courier and Vilas.

Irrespective of particular examples, the casual fan doesn't know who Leconte and Mecir were.

out_here_grindin
04-08-2010, 03:09 AM
Davydenko will likely be slamless, but never forgotten. Possibly same with Murray, though less likely. Of current major players, gotta go with Dasco and Tsonga. Gonzo is memorable, Cilic will win a slam

I don't see how he is more memorable than Tsonga or Verdasco. He would be remembered in Chile, but I doubt people will remember him very much 15-20 years from now.

oranges
04-08-2010, 03:25 AM
But that's a different story.

I said that slamless players are bound to be forgotten by average fans who didn't see them live, but that doesn't mean that slam-winning players aren't forgotten too. The average club fun today won't know who Andrés Gómez was, but they've heard of Courier and Vilas.

Irrespective of particular examples, the casual fan doesn't know who Leconte and Mecir were.

I understand the argument, just saying it's expecting the impossible since casual/average by definition means they won't go out of their way to know anything before their time, meaning that the media will largely dictate who they know or don't know about. On that note, all the Brits will know about Henman and Murray decades later no matter what, as well as others following British Wimbledon coverage :lol:

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-08-2010, 03:36 AM
out of the top 30, Robredo,ferrer,montanes

bad gambler
04-08-2010, 04:01 AM
Nalbandian, Davydenko, Soderling etc

Vida
04-08-2010, 02:23 PM
No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

could be wrong, but to me it seems like Mecir and Leconte are fairly well known. they have a 'ring' to their names. Curren, I doubt.

sure if you ask young people, chances they've heard of them is slim.

osalsyst
04-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

As if your opinion is the end-all-be-all on who people remember...:rolleyes:

Rios is a good example and I'd also throw in Henman. Martin I do agree is a little too low-key though. Davydenko and Nalby will also be remembered if they don't get one. Santoro didn't even come close to winning a singles slam but he will surely be remembered by the tennis community.

2003
04-12-2010, 08:02 AM
By the general population or by tennis fans?