What players are going to be slamless and forgotten???

Please only name player who CAN win one , not players that are obviously are not going to win one.

Well, every player can win one technically.

You.

answer of the year, bravo

Verdasco has the potential, but not the mental capabilities to win. Maybe he will be remembered for that amazing SF with Rafa at the Australian Open last year.

Nalby will be slamless but not forgotten.

Tsonga will get one. Davydenko and Murray will always choke but will be remembered by betfair and the Brit tabloids respectively.

Ya mum.

Guillermo Coria.

The Argentine had(still has?) abilities to be a multi-slam winner. He should have won the Roland Garros 2004, and some other titles.
Unfortunately, the arm injury broke his career. 9 trophies is surely not enough for player with so great skill.
He will be remembered by current generation of player and fans, but I doubt that someone in 2020 will know who is this guy.

Guillermo Coria.

The Argentine had(still has?) abilities to be a multi-slam winner. He should have won the Roland Garros 2004, and some other titles.
Unfortunately, the arm injury broke his career. 9 trophies is surely not enough for player with so great skill.
He will be remembered by current generation of player and fans, but I doubt that someone in 2020 will know who is this guy.

Nah, sadly Coria will always be remembered for his choke in the final. That was probably the single worst choke job in tennis history, people will always bring that up.

You.

not as funny as you had intended

All slamless players will be forgotten sooner or later. It takes something VERY special to change that. Leaving aside the last, say, 15 years, how many slamless players does the average tennis fan remember?

you can be slamless and remebered.

With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten

1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB)
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
4 Murray, Andy (GBR)
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG)
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
7 Roddick, Andy (USA)
8 Soderling, Robin (SWE)
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO)
10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)
11 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
12 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP)
13 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
14 Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO)
15 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
16 Berdych, Tomas (CZE)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Monfils, Gael (FRA)
19 Stepanek, Radek (CZE)
20 Haas, Tommy (USA)
21 Isner, John (USA)
22 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
23 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
24 Monaco, Juan (ARG)
25 Querrey, Sam (USA)
26 Simon, Gilles (FRA)
27 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
28 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT)
29 Karlovic, Ivo (CRO)
30 Baghdatis, Marcos (CYP)
31 Bellucci, Thomaz (BRA)
32 Montanes, Albert (ESP)
33 Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
34 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP)
35 Lopez, Feliciano (ESP)
36 Benneteau, Julien (FRA)
37 Troicki, Viktor (SRB)
38 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB)
39 Becker, Benjamin (GER)
40 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP)
41 Andreev, Igor (RUS)
42 Kubot, Lukasz (POL)
43 Hanescu, Victor (ROU)
44 Chardy, Jeremy (FRA)
45 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT)
46 Mayer, Florian (GER)
47 Seppi, Andreas (ITA)
48 Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA)
49 Petzschner, Philipp (GER)
50 Berrer, Michael (GER)
51 Blake, James (USA)
52 Cuevas, Pablo (URU)
53 Beck, Andreas (GER)
54 Zeballos, Horacio (ARG)
55 Rochus, Olivier (BEL)
56 Fognini, Fabio (ITA)
57 Serra, Florent (FRA)
58 Greul, Simon (GER)
59 Chiudinelli, Marco (SUI)
60 Korolev, Evgeny (KAZ)
61 Schwank, Eduardo (ARG)
62 Mayer, Leonardo (ARG)
63 Lacko, Lukas (SVK)
64 Llodra, Michael (FRA)
65 Robert, Stephane (FRA)
66 Stakhovsky, Sergiy (UKR)
67 Gicquel, Marc (FRA)
68 Falla, Alejandro (COL)
69 Sela, Dudi (ISR)
70 Dolgopolov Jr., Oleksandr (UKR)
71 Nieminen, Jarkko (FIN)
72 Russell, Michael (USA)
73 Starace, Potito (ITA)
74 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
75 Luczak, Peter (AUS)
76 de Bakker, Thiemo (NED)
77 Marchenko, Illya (UKR)
78 Beck, Karol (SVK)
79 Istomin, Denis (UZB)
80 Clement, Arnaud (FRA)
81 Hajek, Jan (CZE)
82 Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG)
83 Giraldo, Santiago (COL)
84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)
85 Ram, Rajeev (USA)
86 Zverev, Mischa (GER)
87 Granollers, Marcel (ESP)
88 Golubev, Andrey (KAZ)
89 Malisse, Xavier (BEL)
90 Lorenzi, Paolo (ITA)
91 Schuettler, Rainer (GER)
92 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel (ESP)
93 Koellerer, Daniel (AUT)
94 Massu, Nicolas (CHI)
95 Darcis, Steve (BEL)
96 Brands, Daniel (GER)
97 Fish, Mardy (USA)
98 Lu, Yen-Hsun (TPE)
99 Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU)
100 Kavcic, Blaz (SLO)

With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten

4 Murray, Andy (GBR)
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
8 Soderling, Robin (SWE)
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO)
10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA)
11 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
12 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP)
13 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
14 Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO)
16 Berdych, Tomas (CZE)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Monfils, Gael (FRA)
19 Stepanek, Radek (CZE)
20 Haas, Tommy (USA)
21 Isner, John (USA)
22 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
23 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI)
24 Monaco, Juan (ARG)
25 Querrey, Sam (USA)
26 Simon, Gilles (FRA)
28 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT)
29 Karlovic, Ivo (CRO)
30 Baghdatis, Marcos (CYP)
31 Bellucci, Thomaz (BRA)
32 Montanes, Albert (ESP)
33 Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER)
34 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP)
35 Lopez, Feliciano (ESP)
36 Benneteau, Julien (FRA)
37 Troicki, Viktor (SRB)
38 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB)
39 Becker, Benjamin (GER)
40 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP)
41 Andreev, Igor (RUS)
42 Kubot, Lukasz (POL)
43 Hanescu, Victor (ROU)
44 Chardy, Jeremy (FRA)
45 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT)
46 Mayer, Florian (GER)
47 Seppi, Andreas (ITA)
48 Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA)
49 Petzschner, Philipp (GER)
50 Berrer, Michael (GER)
51 Blake, James (USA)
52 Cuevas, Pablo (URU)
53 Beck, Andreas (GER)
54 Zeballos, Horacio (ARG)
55 Rochus, Olivier (BEL)
56 Fognini, Fabio (ITA)
57 Serra, Florent (FRA)
58 Greul, Simon (GER)
59 Chiudinelli, Marco (SUI)
60 Korolev, Evgeny (KAZ)
61 Schwank, Eduardo (ARG)
62 Mayer, Leonardo (ARG)
63 Lacko, Lukas (SVK)
64 Llodra, Michael (FRA)
65 Robert, Stephane (FRA)
66 Stakhovsky, Sergiy (UKR)
67 Gicquel, Marc (FRA)
68 Falla, Alejandro (COL)
69 Sela, Dudi (ISR)
70 Dolgopolov Jr., Oleksandr (UKR)
71 Nieminen, Jarkko (FIN)
72 Russell, Michael (USA)
73 Starace, Potito (ITA)
74 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
75 Luczak, Peter (AUS)
76 de Bakker, Thiemo (NED)
77 Marchenko, Illya (UKR)
78 Beck, Karol (SVK)
79 Istomin, Denis (UZB)
80 Clement, Arnaud (FRA)
81 Hajek, Jan (CZE)
82 Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG)
83 Giraldo, Santiago (COL)
84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)
85 Ram, Rajeev (USA)
86 Zverev, Mischa (GER)
87 Granollers, Marcel (ESP)
88 Golubev, Andrey (KAZ)
89 Malisse, Xavier (BEL)
90 Lorenzi, Paolo (ITA)
91 Schuettler, Rainer (GER)
92 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel (ESP)
93 Koellerer, Daniel (AUT)
94 Massu, Nicolas (CHI)
95 Darcis, Steve (BEL)
96 Brands, Daniel (GER)
97 Fish, Mardy (USA)
98 Lu, Yen-Hsun (TPE)
99 Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU)
100 Kavcic, Blaz (SLO)

I love how you put all of the player in the 100 :worship::worship:

you can be slamless and remebered.

Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I think

Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

Maybe Rios
He's more known than let's say Tojo

Davydenko for sure.

He can't even be remembered as a slam finalist like Coria, Martin, Soderling, Baghdatis, Gonzo, etc.

not as funny as you had intended

still quite funny :p

Sad, But True

it is crunch time for murray now.

If he doesnt win won in the next 3 years, he will be slamless.

Maybe Rios
He's more known than let's say Tojo

Rios is the only example I can think of, and yet he's pretty recent, having retired in 2003 aged just 27. Let's give him some time...

of course, that doesn't mean that slam-winning players can't be forgotten.

ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I think

Martin isn't that well known and he owes much of his current "fame" to his TV and coaching jobs.

Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

curren? mecir?

also when i posted leconte in the forgotten players thread, people said they are not forgotten.......

ummmmmmmmm.. Todd martin, I thinkIf u asked an average tennis fan if they knew who Todd Martin is, I bet most would say no...

hopefully murray

I agree with Duelmedia, Murray needs to win a slam in the next few years for sure.

Rajeev Ram will never be forgotten by the guys from MTF gamblers' lounge.

On the other hand, some people here already had forgotten Ferrero (slam winner after all) during his bad period.

As for Rios, he was #1. Very briefly, but he made his place in the history even though he wasn't really a slam player.

Davydenko and Soderling

Verkerk is already forgotten

With the exception of the players highlighted in red, these players will all be slamless and forgotten


84 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP)

:worship:

curren? mecir?

also when i posted leconte in the forgotten players thread, people said they are not forgotten.......

Does the average tennis fan know who Curren, Mecir or Leconte are?

Does the average tennis fan know who Curren, Mecir or Leconte are?

yes

yes

No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

number of today slam-owners will be forgotten soon too...:)

No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

You don't really expect "average" tennis fan to know any players they've never seen unless they won multiple slams, do you? They'll mostly know only those mentioned/featured as legends every now and then. A friend of mine is a casual fan, he'll watch when given opportunity for years, mostly just slams. I'm certain he knows both Leconte and Mecir, not sure about Curren. I'm also certain he has no idea who Pancho Gonzales is.

This list is too long today.. Soderling, Davydenko, Verdasco just to name a few.. Hell Murray may never win a slam but doubtful he will be forgotten.. But I doubt he will be very remembered

Davydenko will likely be slamless, but never forgotten. Possibly same with Murray, though less likely. Of current major players, gotta go with Dasco and Tsonga. Gonzo is memorable, Cilic will win a slam

You don't really expect "average" tennis fan to know any players they've never seen unless they won multiple slams, do you? They'll mostly know only those mentioned/featured as legends every now and then. A friend of mine is a casual fan, he'll watch when given opportunity for years, mostly just slams. I'm certain he knows both Leconte and Mecir, not sure about Curren. I'm also certain he has no idea who Pancho Gonzales is.

But that's a different story.

I said that slamless players are bound to be forgotten by average fans who didn't see them live, but that doesn't mean that slam-winning players aren't forgotten too. The average club fun today won't know who Andrés Gómez was, but they've heard of Courier and Vilas.

Irrespective of particular examples, the casual fan doesn't know who Leconte and Mecir were.

Davydenko will likely be slamless, but never forgotten. Possibly same with Murray, though less likely. Of current major players, gotta go with Dasco and Tsonga. Gonzo is memorable, Cilic will win a slam

I don't see how he is more memorable than Tsonga or Verdasco. He would be remembered in Chile, but I doubt people will remember him very much 15-20 years from now.

But that's a different story.

I said that slamless players are bound to be forgotten by average fans who didn't see them live, but that doesn't mean that slam-winning players aren't forgotten too. The average club fun today won't know who Andrés Gómez was, but they've heard of Courier and Vilas.

Irrespective of particular examples, the casual fan doesn't know who Leconte and Mecir were.

I understand the argument, just saying it's expecting the impossible since casual/average by definition means they won't go out of their way to know anything before their time, meaning that the media will largely dictate who they know or don't know about. On that note, all the Brits will know about Henman and Murray decades later no matter what, as well as others following British Wimbledon coverage :lol:

out of the top 30, Robredo,ferrer,montanes

Nalbandian, Davydenko, Soderling etc

No.

Or your definition of average tennis fan is not very "average".

Go to any tennis club in the world and ask people if they know who Kevin Curren, Miroslav Mecir or Henry Leconte were. I doubt more than 10% of them would know (except, of course, the ones that are old enough to have seen those players).

could be wrong, but to me it seems like Mecir and Leconte are fairly well known. they have a 'ring' to their names. Curren, I doubt.

sure if you ask young people, chances they've heard of them is slim.

Example? As I said, not from the last 15 years for obvious reasons.

As if your opinion is the end-all-be-all on who people remember...:rolleyes:

Rios is a good example and I'd also throw in Henman. Martin I do agree is a little too low-key though. Davydenko and Nalby will also be remembered if they don't get one. Santoro didn't even come close to winning a singles slam but he will surely be remembered by the tennis community.

By the general population or by tennis fans?