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Do you think Davydenko will retire Slamless and forgotten?

DualMedia
04-04-2010, 11:58 PM
I think he will be slamless and forgotten.

Certinfy
04-04-2010, 11:59 PM
Slamless? Probably, but I hope I'm wrong.
Forgotten? If he doesn't win a GS, then sadly yeah.

Chiakifug
04-05-2010, 12:00 AM
More remembered than that woman in your avatar probably.

Black Adam
04-05-2010, 12:00 AM
On the skysports poll of popularity, I think he scored more than Tsonga and Soderling. Can't say I am surprised about anyone being more popular than Toad but Tsonga was a bit of a surprise.

alter ego
04-05-2010, 12:00 AM
I won't forget him even if he ends up slamless. I love his tennis.

Certinfy
04-05-2010, 12:02 AM
I won't forget him even if he'll end up slamless. I love his tennis.Same here, his tennis is just beautiful to watch.

misty1
04-05-2010, 12:06 AM
i think he will, unfortunately retire slamless but i dont think he'll ever be forgotten.
I know i never will forget him

l_mac
04-05-2010, 12:08 AM
On the skysports poll of popularity, I think he scored more than Tsonga and Soderling. Can't say I am surprised about anyone being more popular than Toad but Tsonga was a bit of a surprise.

It will be because he won WTF in London. Also who cares about Tsonga here? No-one. Davydenko got some publicity for winning WTF.

I don't think he'll win a Slam, and is likely to be forgotten. tbh even if he wins a Slam I don't think the media will be talking about him much in 20 years.

Arkulari
04-05-2010, 12:09 AM
not by us tennis followers of this era, but the casual tennis fan will not remember him, same as tennis followers 20 years from now

156mphserve
04-05-2010, 12:11 AM
little off topic, but anyone know when Davydenko is scheduled to return form his injury?

misty1
04-05-2010, 12:15 AM
if there is one thing he has done that will help him last its that he is the first and most likely only russian male ever to win the world tour finals.

Certinfy
04-05-2010, 12:22 AM
It will be because he won WTF in London. Also who cares about Tsonga here? No-one. Speak for yourself please.

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-05-2010, 12:34 AM
yes, ive already forgotten about him since hes injured now :D

Jomp1
04-05-2010, 12:41 AM
Forgotten by casual fans probably. And also probably slamless. Nothing strange in that, most players retire slamless and forgotten outside the inner circle.

Kolya
04-05-2010, 01:23 AM
Like your mum.

FlameOn
04-05-2010, 01:23 AM
By the media yes, but Davy will always have an underground following I reckon. :p

r2473
04-05-2010, 01:31 AM
Davydenko circa 2020 reflecting on his tennis career:

http://pvcentral.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cold-hmls-youth.jpg

paseo
04-05-2010, 01:41 AM
Davy.. who?

tangerine_dream
04-05-2010, 01:43 AM
He's already slamless and forgotten.

oranges
04-05-2010, 04:08 AM
He'll be remembered for being much better than ducky, though slamless

andy neyer
04-05-2010, 04:26 AM
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/11/15/um/fotos/davydenko.jpg

SheepleBuster
04-05-2010, 04:29 AM
For a set and half against Fed, he looked like a grand slam winner. For the rest, he looked like a top 100 guy.

Action Jackson
04-05-2010, 04:31 AM
Betfair will never forget.

Nathaliia
04-05-2010, 07:45 AM
A bookie riot like his, hardly ever forgotten. A special thing in tennis.

edit - oh, after reading 1st page I didn't notice AJ's post. But exactly. Anytime something bad happens in tennis, the journos will be making ranks of tennis fails, and the generations who won't know who Djokovic or Murray was, the spirit of Davydenko will stay.

Sunset of Age
04-05-2010, 07:58 AM
Pretty sure he won't care sh*t whether he will be 'forgotten' or not. He'll be happy with his family, counting his $$$$$.

Start da Game
04-05-2010, 08:06 AM
davydenko's wife will not be forgotten.......

samanosuke
04-05-2010, 08:14 AM
He will be remembered as a fixer . Better anything then nothing

Goldenoldie
04-05-2010, 08:21 AM
He will be remembered as a fixer . Better anything then nothing

Alleged, please

Boris Franz Ecker
04-05-2010, 08:27 AM
He will be better remembered than Gaudio or Costa.
Perhaps as the guy who won the biggest tournament of all time (relatively seen).

Action Jackson
04-05-2010, 09:12 AM
He will be better remembered than Gaudio or Costa.
Perhaps as the guy who won the biggest tournament of all time (relatively seen).

Nalbandian and Corretja won this biggest tournament of all time according to the above.

HKz
04-05-2010, 09:14 AM
20 years from now, he'll be remembered as much as Mecir is right now.

Mateya
04-05-2010, 10:16 AM
Slamless - probably yes
Forgotten - no

Why should a player who doesn't win a slam be forgotten? :shrug:
Ana Ivanovic (worst RG winner of all time) has a slam, but at this rate she will be forgotten very soon :tape:

stebs
04-05-2010, 11:44 AM
The two criteria are vastly different and one of them can be answered straightforwardly.

Slamless? This is an objective question. It seems highly likely that he will retire without a slam, yes.

Forgotten? By who? This question needs to be qualified before it is answered otherwise the answers mean nothing at all. I won't forget Davydenko, a lot of tennis fans won't forget Davydenko, some tennis fans will forget Davydenko.

Jaffas85
04-05-2010, 12:11 PM
little off topic, but anyone know when Davydenko is scheduled to return form his injury?

I think he's meant to return in Barcelona.

I hope he's feeling match fit and in good form by the French Open because it's the only slam he has a chance at winning (if he has a good draw, and Federer and Nadal aren't feeling their very best, then it's possible).

I think it would be great if he unexpectantly won the French Open this year (would be amusing if he wins a major before Murray).

Nidhogg
04-05-2010, 12:15 PM
I won't forget him, but many other's will as they don't appreciate his great abilities such as how early he takes the ball or how great he can return. He's one of the most interesting matchups around today.

Edit: Funny how I failed to mention his great footwork, which is the standout key for his clean hitting. :hearts:

emotion
04-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Slamless? Probably.
Forgotten? Never.

Apemant
04-05-2010, 05:43 PM
Everyone will be forgotten eventually.

If not in a thousand years, then in a mllion years. :devil:

Certinfy
04-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Ana Ivanovic (worst RG winner of all time) has a slam, but at this rate she will be forgotten very soon :tape:
Probably not, her looks will keep the media and stuff always interested :shrug:

Hellraiser
04-05-2010, 06:17 PM
DenkoBet will be never forgotten.

DualMedia
04-05-2010, 10:12 PM
Slamless - probably yes
Forgotten - no

Why should a player who doesn't win a slam be forgotten? :shrug:
Ana Ivanovic (worst RG winner of all time) has a slam, but at this rate she will be forgotten very soon :tape:

ana ivanovic will be remebered in Serbia as a okay tennis player, but universaly she will be remebered as a pretty girl who just happened to play the sport called tennis.

oz_boz
04-06-2010, 09:21 PM
He wil be remembered as a very good (albeit slamless) contemporary of Fed and Nadal.

Aaric
04-06-2010, 09:40 PM
Yes.

martinatreue
04-06-2010, 10:04 PM
Wow... what a ridiculously overdramatic thread title! Nadal won't forget the beatings he took from him!

DualMedia
04-06-2010, 10:07 PM
Wow... what a ridiculously overdramatic thread title! Nadal won't forget the beatings he took from him!

Nadal should forget because nadal has HOW MANY GRAND SLAMS COMPARED TO DAVY???

born_on_clay
04-08-2010, 10:32 AM
Yes, Davydenko will retire slamless (for sure) and forgotten (more sure than the previous statement)

TennisOnWood
04-08-2010, 12:32 PM
No doubt!!!

calvinhobbes
04-08-2010, 01:53 PM
He will retire slamless. But he will not be forgotten. He will be remembered for ever because he retired slamless............:devil::devil::devil:

Har-Tru
04-08-2010, 02:52 PM
Yes.

PiggyGotRoasted
04-08-2010, 02:56 PM
If he retires slamless then he will be remembered as the best player never to win a GS.
If he retired with a slam then he will be remembered as the player that won a GS.

DualMedia
04-08-2010, 03:49 PM
If he retires slamless then he will be remembered as the best player never to win a GS.
If he retired with a slam then he will be remembered as the player that won a GS.

WRONG!!! if you dont win a slam, people are going to forget about you. If he wins a slam, people will remember you because that grand slam has a name of every player that has won.

Boris Franz Ecker
04-08-2010, 05:21 PM
he won't be forgotten because he won the masters or whatever name it will have then.
winners of this tournament are remembered as winners of olympic gold medail will be rememebered.
That's a good highlight in davydenkos career and that sepaarates him from non-slammers.

krakenzero
04-09-2010, 03:43 AM
Do you remember Corretja?? I do. There's your answer.

andy neyer
04-09-2010, 03:55 AM
He'll be remembered as the top ten player who owned Nadal.

Montego
04-09-2010, 07:38 AM
Slamless ? Most probably

Forgotten ?

If you ask some big tennis fan in 2030 about Davydenko - he will reply "of course, Davydenko was a very good player back in the noughties and a threat in Grand Slams"

If you ask some casual tennis fan in 2030 - he will reply "there was such a player like Davydenko, but I don't remember too much"

If you ask a non-fan - he will not remember about Davy.

Kolya
04-09-2010, 09:51 AM
Who cares...

out_here_grindin
04-09-2010, 03:38 PM
If he retires slamless then he will be remembered as the best player never to win a GS.
If he retired with a slam then he will be remembered as the player that won a GS.

I think Rios gets that distinction

TennisOnWood
04-09-2010, 04:27 PM
If he retires slamless then he will be remembered as the best player never to win a GS.
If he retired with a slam then he will be remembered as the player that won a GS.

Read about Brian Gottfried

paseo
04-09-2010, 04:57 PM
By us, no. By some tennis kid that hasn't been born yet, yes.

JediFed
04-09-2010, 05:52 PM
No, I think he will win a slam. Murray on the other hand...

DualMedia
04-10-2010, 01:38 AM
No, I think he will win a slam. Murray on the other hand...

murray is probaly going to win the Uso. Davy, on the other hand, he is 28 years old. He is no Federer. HE can defeat him, but not in the GS. In the GS, Federer snaps in to GRANDSLAM MODE. It is very difficult to defeat GRANDSLAM MODE fed.

Topspin Forehand
04-10-2010, 01:49 AM
Greatest player to never win a slam. So he won't be forgotten.

TennisOnWood
04-10-2010, 10:15 AM
Greatest player to never win a slam. So he won't be forgotten.

And again.. Brian Gottfried

bloody russian can't be greatest even in this

Dougie
04-10-2010, 10:44 AM
Slamless ? Most probably

Forgotten ?

If you ask some big tennis fan in 2030 about Davydenko - he will reply "of course, Davydenko was a very good player back in the noughties and a threat in Grand Slams"

If you ask some casual tennis fan in 2030 - he will reply "there was such a player like Davydenko, but I don't remember too much"

If you ask a non-fan - he will not remember about Davy.

True, but if you ask a casual fan, he probably won´t remember Thomas Johansson very well either, What I mean is that winning one Slam doesn´t guarantee people will remember you, winning Wimbledon or RG would probably do that, but one AO, for example, isn´t enough. Or it could be, if you have a character like Safin´s for example. Or Rios, who doesn´t need any Slams to be remembered. But for Davy, he would need to win several Slams, or Wimbledon, or RG to be remembered. I don´t think he´ll do any of those things.

kindling
04-10-2010, 02:06 PM
I don't think he even cares if he wins a slam or not.

JediFed
04-10-2010, 05:08 PM
28 is not old. He could win a slam in his 30s, which given this current crop of youngsters is what will likely happen.

DualMedia
04-10-2010, 05:57 PM
28 is not old. He could win a slam in his 30s, which given this current crop of youngsters is what will likely happen.

he is not going to win a slam at thirty, by that time, andy murray will HOPEFULLY be mentally ready.

FEDERERBEAUTY
04-11-2010, 08:37 PM
On a British quiz show yesterday the question was: name 10 male tennis players who were ranked number 1 in the world between 1973-2009.

The 2 contestants very confidently said, Federer. Then Sampras. The female contestant's knowledge ended there.

Her male partner seemed to be a tennis fan of sorts. He confidently continued with McEnroe, Connors, Agassi. He named Borg but couldn't decide whether he had been around before
1973. So his next less confident guess was Rusedski:eek: (he promptly lost £10,000)

I suppose the couple could be classed as casual fans. But when they showed the full list I confess even I as a major tennis fan had forgotten certain players had been number 1 although I remembered them as players ofcourse.

I doubt whether casual fans even KNOW Davydenko currently to forget him.

The average tennis fan does know him. In years to come I think they will remember his name and appearance and maybe a particular match or two of his they watched but not much else.
Tennis fanatics will remember him better. but will he be at the forefront of their tennis mind - no.

People remember the GOAT contenders for winning multiple slams and for being Goat contenders.

Then they remember the great champions who won multiple slams and had memorable personality/looks/charisma

Then they remember those who were memorable and who also won a slam or two

The rest are largely a blur.

I don't think Davy will win a slam and he will be part of the blur

2003
04-12-2010, 06:57 AM
He will be forgotten regardless..who wants to watch that ugly mutt play tennis