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Can Tomáš Berdych Get Back Inside The Top 10?

Certinfy
04-04-2010, 10:05 PM
Come tomorrow he'll be world number 16, and till the end of the year he's hardly defending anything (besides 1 title) in fact he's only defending:

Wimbledon R4 - 180
USO R3 - 90
RG R1 - 10
Cincinnati QF - 180
Shanghai R3 - 90
Paris R2 - 45
Madrid R2 - 45
Canada R1 - 10
Rome R1 - 10
Tokyo QF - 90
Washington QF - 90
Munich W - 250

So it's practically filled with early losses in most of those events, so it's a great chance for him to gain a lot of ranking points.

So will Tomáš Berdych get back in the worlds top 10?

DJ Soup
04-04-2010, 10:08 PM
probably not

yesyesok
04-04-2010, 10:09 PM
laughing @ post 2.

To the point.

He probably can get back into the top 10, but he won't stay there for long and he won't make any sort of significant impact.

malisha
04-04-2010, 10:10 PM
big fan of Tomaš but i doubt he will be back there this year...he is hot at the moment and in good shape...but didnt improved that much since he was a top 10 and now there are some better players there to be honest

Selby
04-04-2010, 10:12 PM
Yeah he can and I hope he does, I'm not a fan but he's a good guy with a lot of talent and a positive style.

Certinfy
04-04-2010, 10:14 PM
Well the mental side, defence, and movement of Tomas all seem to have improved this year, it's just I feel the serve could be the one thing preventing him from the top 10 atm...

malisha
04-04-2010, 10:21 PM
he is indeed moving as good as he ever did...but the other sides of his game looks pretty much the same to me

hes full of confidance and thats why he was competitive in tough matches this year...not because he improved his mental side IMO

Certinfy
04-04-2010, 10:24 PM
The thing has he has choked a few matches this year, there's no doubt about that, but he's also winning a lot of tight matches as well :shrug: But I dunno, I think his clay court season will sum up his year. :shrug:

FlameOn
04-04-2010, 10:27 PM
I wouldn't count on it.

malisha
04-04-2010, 10:31 PM
ne needs to add something to his game...new coach wolud maybe be a good thing to do

if it worked for Soderling and looks like its working for Gulbis...maybe he sholud try it too

We will see is he a hard worker who piss blood on practise court in order to improve...maybe there are other players who just wants it more

Certinfy
04-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Yeah maybe a change of coach would be a good idea, but I think Tomas and his coach have a good relationship :(

The thing is Tomas doesn't show much off court, when he's losing on court he just shows frustration, and when he's winning there's the occasional smile, so it's hard to tell how much he actually wants to improve, but I guess the sign showing that he wants to win kinda shows that he does want to improve.

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-05-2010, 12:29 AM
no, the rest of the top10 are better than him + so are others in the top 30

Jomp1
04-05-2010, 12:37 AM
no, the rest of the top10 are better than him + so are others in the top 30

Care to elaborate? Berdych has a game well enough for the top10.

FlameOn
04-05-2010, 12:48 AM
Care to elaborate? Berdych has a game well enough for the top10.
Not consistently enough. Besides A-Rod kinda bought him back down to earth today. :p

.-Federers_Mate-.
04-05-2010, 01:00 AM
Care to elaborate? Berdych has a game well enough for the top10.

gonzo,roddick,davydenko,tsonga,cillic and soderling all deserve to be there more than him. These guys are all better than him (cant see berdych replacing anyone)

philosophicalarf
04-05-2010, 03:44 AM
The top8 are miles ahead of the rest on points, but he could slot in with the group of 4 behind them (cilic/tsonga/gonzo/verdasco). He's only 645pts behind 10 now, doesn't take much.

Mateya
04-05-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm afraid not quite :hug:

He will have difficult times on clay...then from grass season on he could start collecting some big points and he should peak during american HC season and US open.
So, his best chance to get into top 10 should be somewhere in september or later, during indoor season.
I doubt it, but I hope he proves me wrong :)

oranges
04-05-2010, 10:14 AM
Why is Berdych's ability on clay so underrated? :scratch:

That said, there's a lot of candidates for the top 10 spots and it would require consistently good results, probably including at least some GS QFs

Calidreth
04-05-2010, 10:15 AM
not until he fixed whats between the ears. He's improved over the years, but still a long way to go.

duong
04-05-2010, 10:19 AM
So will Tomáš Berdych get back in the worlds top 10?

Eactly like Isner's thread, the title of the thread is "can he" and here you write "will he" :devil:

it's tricky as when you read "can he" of course you answer "yes" whereas "will he" questin is just completely different :shrug:

Start da Game
04-05-2010, 10:56 AM
too fragile.......sorry, not happening........

stebs
04-05-2010, 11:36 AM
It's a possiblity if he goes on another good run or two and picks up points but I don't think he is going to establish himself as a consistent member of the top 10. Without strange circumstances the top 8 of; Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray, JMDP, Davydenko, Roddick, Soderling are going nowhere. After that we have Cilic, Tsonga, Gonzalez, Verdasco, Youzhny... I don't see Berdych as being superior to this group of players, if he reaches the top 10 that will be impressive but I don't think he is good enough to be a regular member.

Jaffas85
04-05-2010, 11:48 AM
Berdych is too mentally weak to be in the top 10 so I doubt it will happen.

As someone previously said the top 8 are currently untouchable because they have enough points to keep them safely within the top 10 probably for the rest of the year (which is likely to happen because the top 8 players are consistent and do well in the masters and majors) while positions #9 and #10 tend to be mainly up for grabs between Cilic, Tsonga, Gonzalez and Verdasco.

If someone else in the top 20 has a realistic chance at being #9 or #10 this year I think it's Ferrero if he can return to the form during the European clay court season that saw him do so well in South America earlier this year (where he doesn't have many points to defend and could gain some serious points at the French Open).

I think that Berdych will always just be a solid top 20 player (who will occasionally fall out into the 20-30 range).

DualMedia
04-06-2010, 12:44 AM
sorry to burst some bubbles , but he had a lucky run in this tourny, remember 2009 , melenie oudin run in the USO she will probaly never do that this year. So , he had a lucky run.

HattonWBA
04-06-2010, 11:17 AM
He can but i dont think he will, would be nice to see though

Tom Paulman
04-06-2010, 03:29 PM
He can, but he won't. He's one of the most inconsistent players, so you can hardly expect him to play in every tournament like he did in Miami.

ImmzB
04-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Maybe. But I Don't Think He Will Though 2 Be Onest.

born_on_clay
04-08-2010, 10:33 AM
IMO he can but he won't

orangehat
04-08-2010, 10:37 AM
He was once in the top 10? :spit: :scratch:

Maybe but i really doubt it.

Certinfy
04-08-2010, 10:39 AM
sorry to burst some bubbles , but he had a lucky run in this tourny, remember 2009 , melenie oudin run in the USO she will probaly never do that this year. So , he had a lucky run.It could have been a lucky run, but saying she'll nver do it again is something else, she's still very young and has a lot of time to improve, personally I would be surprised if she did make a SF or more in a GS in the future.

Back on topic: Good chance for Tomas to get near to the top 10 this clay court season, a top 12 seeding at Wimbledon would be the best thing possible!

Certinfy
07-02-2010, 05:07 PM
:wavey: To everyone that said no.

Certinfy
01-01-2011, 03:01 PM
Just felt like bumping this :rolls:

Blackbriar
01-01-2011, 03:02 PM
I've just voted NO

ImmzB
01-01-2011, 03:05 PM
I've just voted NO

:lol:

philosophicalarf
01-01-2011, 03:08 PM
We need a new one: Can Tomas Berdych plummet like a stone defending all these points?

March to end of Wimbledon he defends 3k points, 75% of his total. Wobbly period there and he'll struggle to stay top20.

Blackbriar
01-01-2011, 03:10 PM
We need a new one: Can Tomas Berdych plummet like a stone defending all these points, and finish outside the top30?

YES, he can

Clay Death
01-01-2011, 03:11 PM
Come tomorrow he'll be world number 16, and till the end of the year he's hardly defending anything (besides 1 title) in fact he's only defending:

Wimbledon R4 - 180
USO R3 - 90
RG R1 - 10
Cincinnati QF - 180
Shanghai R3 - 90
Paris R2 - 45
Madrid R2 - 45
Canada R1 - 10
Rome R1 - 10
Tokyo QF - 90
Washington QF - 90
Munich W - 250

So it's practically filled with early losses in most of those events, so it's a great chance for him to gain a lot of ranking points.

So will Tomáš Berdych get back in the worlds top 10?

i think he will do it jase.

i would like to see a little more consistency from him off the ground. he needs to keep working hard.

it wouldnt hurt to be a little more patient before pulling the trigger. so better point construction is needed.

and he is nearly 6 foot 6. he has to work on a more dominating serve. i believe he will do it.

Certinfy
01-01-2011, 03:13 PM
It's not about defending his Miami, RG and Wimbledon points, it's more about spreading those points out with the other events :shrug: If he can do that then he can remain in the top 10 no doubt.

Clay Death
01-01-2011, 03:23 PM
his game translates well to other surfaces. semis at the french open and the finals at wimby attest to that fact.

i think he is going have a great year in 2011. i also like his attitude.

oranges
01-01-2011, 03:23 PM
He was once in the top 10? :spit: :scratch:

Maybe but i really doubt it.

:lol: Gotta love the attitude here and enjoy the the slap in the face by making WTF. Seriously, how do you ridicule someone with a masters shield making top 10? :spit:

@philosophicalarf You're way exaggerating, he's not dropping out of top 20.

yuri27
01-01-2011, 03:29 PM
I think he will.
He'll have to have some better results in M1000 though.

philosophicalarf
01-01-2011, 04:15 PM
@philosophicalarf You're way exaggerating, he's not dropping out of top 20.


Has near 4k points, and 2.5k of that comes from wimbledon, roland garros and miami. Only about 500 after Wimbledon.

oranges
01-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Has near 4k points, and 2.5k of that comes from wimbledon, roland garros and miami. Only about 500 after Wimbledon.

He was usually within or around 20 before and he'll do better than that, much better. The improvement in both his game and attitude was visible even before the Miami/RG/Wimby runs and it won't just completely go away. I'd honestly be extremely surprised if he ends up outside 15. BTW, I never understand bringing up the number of points to be defended when the entire season is being discussed. Even if he had 4 slams to defend, you're still saying that 20 guys would do better than him over the course of the season.

Corey Feldman
01-01-2011, 07:35 PM
Nope.

Seingeist
01-01-2011, 08:52 PM
I'm thinking (and hoping) that the new year will be a good fresh start for Berdych. He's just got too much game not to hover among the top players.

Sham Kay
01-01-2011, 10:01 PM
I hope so for some reason. Not many better players who might fill his boots in the top 10, unless Baggy and the French Brigade improve. The points defending thing has never made much sense, as someone as already mentioned, so that might as well just be disregarded. If he drops out of the top 10 it will be because others have performed better than he has over the year rather than because of all those points he has to defend.

If he doesn't basically burn out like he did at the end of 2010 he'll be fine. I think we'll be seeing him in the WTF's again this year personally.

Clay Death
01-01-2011, 11:13 PM
the real question is this:

is there a slam in berdych`s future if he keeps improving?

does he have the testicular fortitude for it?

i see him getting better.

Certinfy
01-01-2011, 11:16 PM
the real question is this:

is there a slam in berdych`s future if he keeps improving?

does he have the testicular fortitude for it?

i see him getting better.
He has the game to win one, does he have the mentality though? That's the bigger question. Had he not fucked up that Wimbledon Final and actually performed on the day we could well be talking about a Wimbledon Champion now. Against Nadal he fucked up in big moments and well against Federer it was the complete opposite, he was amazing at big moments in that match.

elena_k
01-01-2011, 11:23 PM
i think it is quite funny reading earlier comments and how wrong the people were saying he wont even make in top 20 and a lot of people are better than him etc...


he has been top 10 for 6 month now and was a wimbledon finalist!