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Nadal will play doubles in Miami too (with Marc Lopez)

Luinir
03-19-2010, 11:51 PM
Horrible choice from Rafa :rolleyes:

Baghdatis72
03-19-2010, 11:55 PM
He seems to be doing fine though :)

He is in the semis of both singles and doubles :eek:

delpiero7
03-20-2010, 12:15 AM
Making as many $$$ as possible before his knees inevitably explode ;)

Either that or he's gunning for the world no. 1 doubles ranking.

Getta
03-20-2010, 12:19 AM
little Lo is good.

whattheheck
03-20-2010, 12:58 AM
Making as many $$$ as possible before his knees inevitably explode ;)

Either that or he's gunning for the world no. 1 doubles ranking.

I think he's just helping his partner earn more money, and at the same time improve his net game.

n8
03-20-2010, 01:10 AM
I think he's just helping his partner earn more money, and at the same time improve his net game.

I was going to say that M.Lopez must see dollar signs when Nadal agrees to play doubles. Guys with Lopez's kind of ranking (never been in the top 100 of singles) would be thrilled to play doubles with any top 20 star, let alone Rafa.

l_mac
03-20-2010, 01:50 AM
Lopez has become Rafa's regular practise partner in Mallorca, and a good friend. I doubt Rafa extends any more pressure on his knees playing doubles for an hour or so than he does with his intense practise sessions.

Still. There's no excuse for any doubles playing during the clay season, Rafito. You'll have enough match time under your belt.

Priam
03-20-2010, 02:38 AM
I hope it stops at Miami. He needs the rest going into Monte carlo and beyond.

.-Federers_Mate-.
03-20-2010, 02:41 AM
i think its a good choice..good volleying practise and Cross court groundstroke practise

Arkulari
03-20-2010, 02:42 AM
playing the two events back to back in two HC tournaments isn't exactly Rafa's brightest idea, he doesn't really need much match practice in Miami because it's the last HC event till the US Open series

I just hope he doesn't get injured again for what is the most important part of the season for him, Nole and Muzza aren't playing well now and it's his chance to get back the #2 and take an assault for the #1 depending on results, he really needs to be careful

l_mac
03-20-2010, 02:54 AM
playing the two events back to back in two HC tournaments isn't exactly Rafa's brightest idea, he doesn't really need much match practice in Miami because it's the last HC event till the US Open series


He said he's playing doubles instead of intensive practise sessions :shrug:

Arkulari
03-20-2010, 02:59 AM
Rafa will win both events in IW, he should just relax and take it easy in Miami, he doesn't defend much points there, so what's the point of doing either intensive practise sessions or playing doubles?

I kinda understand his IW choice because he needed match practice and time on court, but why doing it as well in Miami? doesn't make sense with clay season around the corner IMO

Clay Death
03-20-2010, 03:08 AM
playing the two events back to back in two HC tournaments isn't exactly Rafa's brightest idea, he doesn't really need much match practice in Miami because it's the last HC event till the US Open series

I just hope he doesn't get injured again for what is the most important part of the season for him, Nole and Muzza aren't playing well now and it's his chance to get back the #2 and take an assault for the #1 depending on results, he really needs to be careful


affirmative. its the massive, intense match play and practice on hard courts in such a short period of time that can lead to injury.

its just too much in such a short period of time for somebody who really does have chronic knee issues now.

Getta
03-20-2010, 03:11 AM
he knows what he's doing, and he's doing it for fun really.

Sunset of Age
03-20-2010, 03:18 AM
As long as there will be no 'too many HC tournaments' and 'the season is too long'-complaints following in due course of 2010, I am okay with it all.

l_mac
03-20-2010, 03:28 AM
As long as there will be no 'too many HC tournaments' and 'the season is too long'-complaints following in due course of 2010, I am okay with it all.

There are too many hardcourt tournaments and the season is too long :confused:

l_mac
03-20-2010, 03:38 AM
Rafa will win both events in IW, he should just relax and take it easy in Miami, he doesn't defend much points there, so what's the point of doing either intensive practise sessions or playing doubles?

I kinda understand his IW choice because he needed match practice and time on court, but why doing it as well in Miami? doesn't make sense with clay season around the corner IMO
He agreed to play doubles with Marc before he saw that he was going to reach SF (at least) at IW. He mentioned playing doubles in Miami at his post match presser after R3.

If he enters the doubles at Monte Carlo, I will lose it.
affirmative. its the massive, intense match play and practice on hard courts in such a short period of time that can lead to injury.

its just too much in such a short period of time for somebody who really does have chronic knee issues now.

Doubles isn't intense match play, and he is using the matches to try some things out with his serve, and work on his volleys. To this end the matches are probably more helpful than practise. Rafa isn't one to hold back much in practise, and he is a player that needs to hit a lot of balls for his rythmn (or at least he thinks he is)

Rafa's knee troubles are more likely to be tested by the hard-clay-grass transition of the next few months. At least this year he didn't play Rotterdam injured or Davis Cup on clay between AO and IW like he did last year. He's also open to the possibility of skipping one of the clay tournaments (should be Barcelona, but I'd put my money on Madrid) depending on how tired he is/how the knees feel/results, which is another thing he should have done last year and didn't - at great personal cost.

Clay Death
03-20-2010, 03:44 AM
He agreed to play doubles with Marc before he saw that he was going to reach SF (at least) at IW. He mentioned playing doubles in Miami at his post match presser after R3.

If he enters the doubles at Monte Carlo, I will lose it.


Doubles isn't intense match play, and he is using the matches to try some things out with his serve, and work on his volleys. To this end the matches are probably more helpful than practise. Rafa isn't one to hold back much in practise, and he is a player that needs to hit a lot of balls for his rythmn (or at least he thinks he is)

Rafa's knee troubles are more likely to be tested by the hard-clay-grass transition of the next few months. At least this year he didn't play Rotterdam injured or Davis Cup on clay between AO and IW like he did last year. He's also open to the possibility of skipping one of the clay tournaments (should be Barcelona, but I'd put my money on Madrid) depending on how tired he is/how the knees feel/results, which is another thing he should have done last year and didn't at great personal cost.


i will say this again: its an exorbitant amount of activity on hard courts in such a condensed period of time that can prove to be too risky.

at this juncture of the game and the stage of his career the risk is simply too great to stay anymore than really necessary on hard courts.

the key to his sustained fitness and good health will be the maximization of match play and practice on clay. he has to find away to curtail hard court activity and even start tanking some of these hard courts masters events or he will be foced to exit the sport for good in 2 years or less.

see me at the castle for more discussions on this.

jzrnsk
03-20-2010, 03:47 AM
wow he's in the finals for doubles. i think he will lose to sod in singles and win the doubles tournament, he and lopez have beating nestor and zimonjic before. going to miami playing doubles is good. have you seen nadal's volleys! they're exquisite with all the doubles practice! plus less chance of getting injured than eight hours a day of hitting the ball.

janko05
03-20-2010, 03:59 AM
Good choice from him, more doubles play and less practise. That way he is always in a competing mode and he obviously needs that.

Forehander
03-20-2010, 04:01 AM
probably use doubles for practice

born_on_clay
03-20-2010, 11:34 AM
old news :P

dodo
03-20-2010, 11:42 AM
he knows what he's doing, and he's doing it for fun really.
I dare say past events show that he doesn't know what he is doing, at all.
He seems to be doing fine though :)

He is in the semis of both singles and doubles :eek:
He is always doing fine. Until he isn't.

Castafiore
03-20-2010, 12:33 PM
As long as there will be no 'too many HC tournaments' and 'the season is too long'-complaints following in due course of 2010, I am okay with it all.
Why? Like Linda says, the HC season is too long and there are too many HC events.

I know that so many fine experts who are gracing us with their presence on MTF believe that they know what Nadal should eat, how he should train and they way he should play a whole lot better than the Nadal team itself but if you've seen him play doubles live, you'd know that it's a whole lot of fun for him and not that intense. His intensity in doubles matches is totally different than they way he is in his singles matches.

Here, he could play his singles match one day and his doubles match the other day. It's not the same as in Monte Carlo for example where he would need to play both matches on the same day.

Sander.
03-20-2010, 05:00 PM
Nadal returns in a doubles player :spit:

JolánGagó
03-20-2010, 05:07 PM
I dare say past events show that he doesn't know what he is doing, at all.

for sure you know better, that's why he's a zillioner doing what he likes and you... oh well.

rubbERR
03-20-2010, 05:14 PM
rafa has some sympathy to his friend and carrying his friend all the way in final so he can put a good doubles career and get some prize money to travel :lol:

DrJules
03-20-2010, 05:44 PM
He agreed to play doubles with Marc before he saw that he was going to reach SF (at least) at IW. He mentioned playing doubles in Miami at his post match presser after R3.

If he enters the doubles at Monte Carlo, I will lose it.


Doubles isn't intense match play, and he is using the matches to try some things out with his serve, and work on his volleys. To this end the matches are probably more helpful than practise. Rafa isn't one to hold back much in practise, and he is a player that needs to hit a lot of balls for his rythmn (or at least he thinks he is)

Rafa's knee troubles are more likely to be tested by the hard-clay-grass transition of the next few months. At least this year he didn't play Rotterdam injured or Davis Cup on clay between AO and IW like he did last year. He's also open to the possibility of skipping one of the clay tournaments (should be Barcelona, but I'd put my money on Madrid) depending on how tired he is/how the knees feel/results, which is another thing he should have done last year and didn't - at great personal cost.

If he plays doubles instead of practicing it will not be any more damaging to his knees.

Start da Game
03-20-2010, 07:01 PM
it looks like he got so much used to playing in pain that he actually cannot play anymore without being in pain.......

Lopez
03-20-2010, 10:03 PM
Rafa will win both events in IW, he should just relax and take it easy in Miami, he doesn't defend much points there, so what's the point of doing either intensive practise sessions or playing doubles?

I kinda understand his IW choice because he needed match practice and time on court, but why doing it as well in Miami? doesn't make sense with clay season around the corner IMO

Quite sure about that ;) ? You're talking like it's a given :D. Ljubo match is wide open as we speak...

Lopez
03-20-2010, 10:06 PM
There are too many hardcourt tournaments and the season is too long :confused:

True, maybe too much HC, but what would you replace it with? There are quite a lot of clay tournaments already. However, I'm all for getting carpet back and increasing grass :yeah:

Cloudygirl
03-20-2010, 10:07 PM
Nothing in tennis is ever a given.

jcreback
03-20-2010, 10:52 PM
Doubles specialist this Nadal has been reduced to.

Lopez
03-20-2010, 11:12 PM
Quite sure about that ;) ? You're talking like it's a given :D. Ljubo match is wide open as we speak...

Told ya :lol:. Too early to call that one :p

l_mac
03-20-2010, 11:23 PM
True, maybe too much HC, but what would you replace it with? There are quite a lot of clay tournaments already. However, I'm all for getting carpet back and increasing grass :yeah:

I would have more grass, and end the season a lot earlier.

Lopez
03-21-2010, 12:43 AM
I would have more grass, and end the season a lot earlier.

Yeah ending the season earlier would be good. Shanghai and Paris were quite dead last year. More grass would be awesome, shame that RG & Wimbledon won't buckle with their start dates. Should Wimbledon start later, we'd have more grass. A grass MS would be awesome.

Arkulari
03-21-2010, 01:13 AM
Told ya :lol:. Too early to call that one :p

sadly you were right but oh well, kudos to Ljubo ;)

tennisfaNo.1
03-25-2010, 09:53 AM
R1 Miami:

WC ---- NADAL, Rafael (ESP)/SALVA-VIDAL, Bartolome (ESP) vs. 2 BRYAN, Bob (USA)/BRYAN, Mike (USA)

Topspin Forehand
03-25-2010, 06:15 PM
Well good to get 1 match under his belt. Hopefully he loses this one so he can focus on the singles and not run out of steam like what happened to him in Indian Wells.

Arkulari
03-25-2010, 06:35 PM
with Tomeu? :lol:
everyone is getting a ride in the Nadal express these days :p