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The true meaning of Valentine's Day

Johnny Groove
02-14-2010, 02:52 PM
I had to do it :lol:

I haven't done research as to the origins of Valentine's Day, but like most holidays, it has become commercialized. Not nearly to the extent of something like Christmas, but I think the meaning of the holiday has been either lost, or was never known to begin with :shrug:

I think guys see Valentine's Day as the day where he must spend money to make his girl happy and to "stay out of the dog house" like so many commercials advertise. Not sure how women see the holiday, but I have two theories.

1. She sees it as the day where he must get her something of monetary value in exchange for the sexy time.

2. She sees it as the day where she expects something creative and romantic from the man, regardless of how much he spends on it.

I think the problem lies in the fact that men aren't sure what women want (complete shocker there, I know :lol: ) and get what they think will make them happy :shrug:

I think guys have good intentions on this holiday, which the chocolate and jewelry companies take massive advantage of :rolleyes:

How does the rest of MTF view this holiday?

Dini
02-14-2010, 02:55 PM
I don't know the true meaning of it but all I know is that I got a single rose and a box of Lindt from my sister-in-law. :lol: It was quite touching actually and surprising to say the least. :awww: :rolls:

Johnny Groove
02-14-2010, 02:57 PM
Nadine :lol:

Lindt is the Federer chocolate, no?

Voo de Mar
02-14-2010, 03:17 PM
Generally I don't care about all holidays (excluding birthday) but it's always nice when a person shows the other signs of love/friendship etc. so VD is an additional occasion to do it.

*Ljubica*
02-14-2010, 03:19 PM
Valentine's Day - hmmmm - have to say I hate it Jonathan. Way too commercialised for my taste, even though I know it is way less commercial here in Europe than it is in The States.

For me - the concept of my man feeling coerced into stopping off on the way home from work to buy me a box of chocolates, and an overpriced bunch of forced red roses just to show me that he loves me, isn't something I feel comfortable with at all. And sharing a restaurant with loads of other couples paying double price for a "romantic" meal for two doesn't appeal either.

The idea of a day to celebrate love and romance is nice of course, but if you truly love someone, then you should show them all the time, not just one day a year because society expects it :shrug: Personally, I would far rather my partner bought me a bunch of flowers on some random day for no particular reason, or got me a present one day just because he saw something in a shop in his lunch-hour and thought I'd like it, - rather than doing it just because it's February 14th :shrug:

Love shuold be natural and not forced in my opinion - so a casual, spur of the moment gesture of affection, like bringing me breakfast in bed when he knows I'm tired from a bad week at work, or booking a surprise weekend away in the middle of November or something, means far more to me than Valentine's Day. I really don't care for it at all :o

Just my views anyway :shrug:

Dini
02-14-2010, 03:25 PM
Nadine :lol:

Lindt is the Federer chocolate, no?

Yeah, that chocolate. ;) Come to think of it though, I think she gave me the rose and the choc because I'm babysitting her children today whilst she's out with my brother. :lol:

For them (my brother and sis in law who've been married for 7 years) Valentine's day means a lot. It's a day they spend alone away from distractions (i.e. their children and work); they don't do anything major or spend much money - and I like to believe that's the way it should be. They treat it like another Wedding anniversary day.

So in that sense maybe Valentine's day is important. But I don't believe you should need a certain day to remind someone you love him/her.

icedevil0289
02-14-2010, 03:34 PM
Valentine's Day - hmmmm - have to say I hate it Jonathan. Way too commercialised for my taste, even though I know it is way less commercial here in Europe than it is in The States.

For me - the concept of my man feeling coerced into stopping off on the way home from work to buy me a box of chocolates, and an overpriced bunch of forced red roses just to show me that he loves me, isn't something I feel comfortable with at all. And sharing a restaurant with loads of other couples paying double price for a "romantic" meal for two doesn't appeal either.

The idea of a day to celebrate love and romance is nice of course, but if you truly love someone, then you should show them all the time, not just one day a year because society expects it :shrug: Personally, I would far rather my partner bought me a bunch of flowers on some random day for no particular reason, or got me a present one day just because he saw something in a shop in his lunch-hour and thought I'd like it, - rather than doing it just because it's February 14th :shrug:

Love shuold be natural and not forced in my opinion - so a casual, spur of the moment gesture of affection, like bringing me breakfast in bed when he knows I'm tired from a bad week at work, or booking a surprise weekend away in the middle of November or something, means far more to me than Valentine's Day. I really don't care for it at all :o

Just my views anyway :shrug:

exactly. Like you said if if a man really loves a woman, he should show it every day, and of course vice versa, not just because some holiday forces him to.

as far as how I few valentine's day, to me it's just another day, or the day before my birthday;)

icedevil0289
02-14-2010, 03:35 PM
I don't know the true meaning of it but all I know is that I got a single rose and a box of Lindt from my sister-in-law. :lol: It was quite touching actually and surprising to say the least. :awww: :rolls:

:awww: that's sweet. Care to share. I love me some lindt chocolate :drool:

Ivanatis
02-14-2010, 04:23 PM
surprising (and not necessarily expensive) presents and creativity during the year without a concrete occasion kick Valentine's arse;)

JMG
02-14-2010, 07:00 PM
I don't really like the taste of Lindt chocolate. No way it should be as expensive as it is. I always have the feeling that consumers mainly buy Lindt chocolate as present for other people and that the high price makes it look like a worthy present. I don't think they buy it because of the good taste. :( Imo it's a joke that people who buy Lindt as presents for other people see the high price as something positive. Of course I don't support this and have never bought Lindt myself.

Of course the arrogant Federer supports this shit. :rolleyes:

Dini
02-14-2010, 07:05 PM
Yes heavily overpriced but I'm not complaining about it's taste. :shrug:

Sophocles
02-14-2010, 10:01 PM
I hate Valentine's Day with a passion. If I'm in a serious relationship, it invariably involves going to a restaurant I normally like serving an abnormally shit menu for double the normal price; & if I'm not, I get annoyed at not getting a sackload of cards from my hordes of secret admirers.

Kolya
02-14-2010, 11:22 PM
Going to watch that Valentine's Day movie :p

KarlyM
02-15-2010, 05:49 AM
I didn't even realize Sunday was Valentine's Day! :haha:

BTW, I totally agree with *Ljubica*'s post. :)

Fee
02-15-2010, 06:36 AM
I had to do it :lol:

I haven't done research as to the origins of Valentine's Day, but like most holidays, it has become commercialized. Not nearly to the extent of something like Christmas, but I think the meaning of the holiday has been either lost, or was never known to begin with :shrug:

I think guys see Valentine's Day as the day where he must spend money to make his girl happy and to "stay out of the dog house" like so many commercials advertise. Not sure how women see the holiday, but I have two theories.

1. She sees it as the day where he must get her something of monetary value in exchange for the sexy time.

2. She sees it as the day where she expects something creative and romantic from the man, regardless of how much he spends on it.

I think the problem lies in the fact that men aren't sure what women want (complete shocker there, I know :lol: ) and get what they think will make them happy :shrug:

I think guys have good intentions on this holiday, which the chocolate and jewelry companies take massive advantage of :rolleyes:

How does the rest of MTF view this holiday?


I have never celebrated Valentine's Day with my husband and never will. We don't need to, we have plenty of our own special days to celebrate and neither one of us needs a greeting card holiday to say I love you, or to believe it. The only good thing about Valentine's Day is the half priced chocolate the day after.

For all of my women sisterhood that might ever read this: if you are one of those women that gets insecure and demanding around Valentine's Day, please get over it. That type of behavior is giving our gender a bad image and we have enough to overcome.

bokehlicious
02-15-2010, 08:02 AM
I don't really like the taste of Lindt chocolate. No way it should be as expensive as it is. I always have the feeling that consumers mainly buy Lindt chocolate as present for other people and that the high price makes it look like a worthy present. I don't think they buy it because of the good taste. :( Imo it's a joke that people who buy Lindt as presents for other people see the high price as something positive. Of course I don't support this and have never bought Lindt myself.

Of course the arrogant Federer supports this shit. :rolleyes:

You know there isn't one Lindt chocolate but several, don't you? :retard: it's like saying the smallest Mercedez-Benz is nothing special and doesn't live up to the prestige of the brand :o

JMG
02-15-2010, 09:12 AM
You know there isn't one Lindt chocolate but several, don't you? :retard: it's like saying the smallest Mercedez-Benz is nothing special and doesn't live up to the prestige of the brand :o

F U

None of the Lindt products I've tasted was good. Milka for example is much better. And yes, all Lindt products are basically made of the same chocolate, so it's possible to say I don't like the taste of Lindt.

bokehlicious
02-15-2010, 10:14 AM
F U


So refreshing to see we can have a discussion amongst adult people, respecting each other opinions and all :hearts: :hug: :hug: :hug:



None of the Lindt products I've tasted was good. Milka for example is much better. And yes, all Lindt products are basically made of the same chocolate, so it's possible to say I don't like the taste of Lindt.

:lol: I think you should refrain from talking about a subject you clearly have no clue about :o ;)

savesthedizzle
02-15-2010, 12:07 PM
surprising (and not necessarily expensive) presents and creativity during the year without a concrete occasion kick Valentine's arse;)

Absolutely :yeah:

Rafa = Fed Killa
02-17-2010, 03:53 PM
I have never celebrated Valentine's Day with my husband and never will. We don't need to, we have plenty of our own special days to celebrate and neither one of us needs a greeting card holiday to say I love you, or to believe it. The only good thing about Valentine's Day is the half priced chocolate the day after.

For all of my women sisterhood that might ever read this: if you are one of those women that gets insecure and demanding around Valentine's Day, please get over it. That type of behavior is giving our gender a bad image and we have enough to overcome.

:worship:

Very logical

A couple truly in love does not need Vday.

Plus finacially it is smart not to get caught in the hallmark holidays.

Johnny Groove
02-10-2012, 02:57 PM
We are approaching Valentine's Day soon, Tuesday to be exact.

How do you celebrate V-Day?

I bet not much has changed in the last 2 years since I started this thread.

Men being pressured to get gifts, presents, women watching commercials and expecting their man to do any and all to sweep them off their feet, and when he doesn't, she gets pissed, and no one gets laid :awww: (Am I speaking from experience? Maybe.)

2 years ago, when I started this thread, over commercialization has destroyed V-Day. Has it still?

ballbasher101
02-10-2012, 04:24 PM
I think Ron Swanson would say Valentine's day was invented by hallmark to sell cards. I hate all holidays especially christmas. Commercialisation just puts me off. I took Valentine's day seriously when I was 16 but not now. I blame it on the hormones ;).