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Happy Hanukkah - Chag Chanukah Sameach! Dec 11 - 19

prima donna
12-11-2009, 05:15 PM
http://sonomahillel.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/hanukkah_theme_51.jpg

cobalt60
12-11-2009, 05:17 PM
Thanks very much PD :)

JolánGagó
12-11-2009, 05:20 PM
I've got little idea of the meaning of it but Happy Hanukkah! to everyone involved :wavey:

cobalt60
12-11-2009, 05:22 PM
I've got little idea of the meaning of it but Happy Hanukkah! to everyone involved :wavey:

History involved ( google it) but it is a holiday to celebrate LIBERTY.

prima donna
12-11-2009, 05:27 PM
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/jeff/jacoby_2003_12_26.php3

prima donna
12-11-2009, 06:39 PM
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theMEESH
12-11-2009, 06:49 PM
Oh! I've never been to a Hanukkah party! Is the food good? And 9 days of food???? WOW.

theMEESH
12-11-2009, 06:50 PM
Happy Hanukkah btw ;)

scoobs
12-11-2009, 07:05 PM
Happy Hannukah and Mazel Tov our Jewish friends :hug: http://spammers-paradise.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif

theMEESH
12-11-2009, 07:14 PM
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cobalt60
12-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Oh! I've never been to a Hanukkah party! Is the food good? And 9 days of food???? WOW.

Well............... depends :lol: We don't really eat any differently but if one goes to a party you would eat:

Potato pancakes-with sour cream or applesauce-Ashkenazic culture
Sufganiyot-jelly filled donuts-Ashkenazic
Bimuellos- donuts made from Matzah-Sepphardic culture

All fried, all heavy, all head straight to one's arteries.:lol:

theMEESH
12-11-2009, 08:12 PM
Are YOU having a party Sue? :p

Because if you are... can I come?? :awww:

prima donna
12-11-2009, 08:14 PM
Pfannkuchen & Sufganiyot - similar http://www.delish.com/cm/goodhousekeeping/images/ab/sufganiyot-200-rf.jpghttp://blog.rezkonv.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/berliner-pfannkuchen.jpg

cobalt60
12-11-2009, 08:22 PM
^^ pretty much the same thing- different language :p

And no Mish- Now that my kids are big I don't go to parties for this holiday anymore. We will light the candles and most likely hubby will do potato pancakes one night. Hint: sweet potato pancakes are :drool:

theMEESH
12-11-2009, 08:28 PM
*sad face*

Or Levy
12-12-2009, 12:47 PM
I ate SO much food yesterday. Sweet Potato pancakes is my mother's special recepie.

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 02:44 PM
I ate SO much food yesterday. Sweet Potato pancakes is my mother's special recepie.

ooh we don't actually have a recipe so please feel free to share ;)

theMEESH
12-12-2009, 03:12 PM
are there special rituals you're supposed to do on each day of chanukah?

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 03:13 PM
No just light the candles and say the prayers over them. At least that's what we do.

theMEESH
12-12-2009, 03:14 PM
oh.

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 03:16 PM
oh.

It is not a "big" holiday. PD quoted an article on the first page here. That will give you some answers :) I am not the best educator about this stuff;) My hubby is though- a reform Jewish educator by training.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 03:25 PM
The First Night of Hanukkah – The first night of Hanukkah is used as a time to reflect on the revolt of Judas Maccabeus. The Verse that is read is 2 Maccabees 8:1-11.

The Second Night of Hanukkah – On the second night, the Menorah is lit in honor of the preparation of the upcoming battle. Verse - 2 Maccabees 8:12-20.

The Third Night of Hanukkah – The third night is a celebration for the defeat of Nicanor. Verse - 2 Maccabees 8:21-29.

The Fourth Night of Hanukkah – The fourth night signifies Judah’s defeat of Timothy and Bacchides. Verse – 2 Maccabees 8: 30-36.

The Fifth Night of Hanukkah – Night number five celebrates the last campaign of Antiochus Epiphanes. Verse – 2 Maccabees 9: 1-12.

The Sixth Night of Hanukkah – The sixth night of Hanukkah celebrates the promise that Antiochus made to God. Verse – 2 Maccabees 9: 13-18.

The Seventh Night of Hanukkah – On the seventh night, the death and letters of Antiochus are signified. Verse – 2 Maccabees 9: 19-29.

The Eighth Night of Hanukkah – The final night of Hanukkah is a time to rejoice the Purification of the Temple. Verse – 2 Maccabees 10:

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 03:27 PM
My guess is PD that only Orthodox Jews do all the above.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Such a lovely and memorable night, our first Hanukkah spent with our little angel -- my daughter.

We're in East Hampton, and we shall spend the next week or so in one another's company. I won't lament being surrounded by women -- mother-in-law, sister-in-law, and the Wife; after all, such a gathering is a true gift afforded to us by G-d.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 03:38 PM
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Voo de Mar
12-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Ciao prima :eek: Sei adesso di piů ebreo di cattolico?

prima donna
12-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Ciao prima :eek: Sei adesso di piů ebreo di cattolico?
A dir la verita', prima di incontrare mia moglie, non sono mai appartenuto a nessuna religione. Mia madre e' cattolica, mio padre e' nato ebreo, pero' si e' sempre considerato agnostica, quindi niente da fare. Anzi, se ci penso bene, non vado in "chiesa" da secoli.

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 03:55 PM
A dir la verita', prima di incontrare mia moglie, non sono mai apparenuto a nessuna religione. Mia madre e' cattolica, mio padre e' nato ebreo, pero' si e' sempre considerato agnostica, quindi niente da fare. Anzi, se ci penso bene, non vado in "chiesa" da secoli.

I did not realize you were half Jewish prima donna.

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 03:56 PM
No just light the candles and say the prayers over them. At least that's what we do.

Are the prayers specific or you pray however you feel you should?

Voo de Mar
12-12-2009, 03:56 PM
A dir la verita', prima di incontrare mia moglie, non sono mai apparenuto a nessuna religione. Mia madre e' cattolica, mio padre e' nato ebreo, pero' si e' sempre considerato agnostica, quindi niente da fare. Anzi, se ci penso bene, non vado in "chiesa" da secoli.

Interessante, ripeti in un certo senso il modello dei tuoi genitori con la differenza sessuale ;)

prima donna
12-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Interessante, ripeti in un certo senso il modello dei tuoi genitori con la differenza sessuale ;)
Suppongo di si'.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 04:02 PM
I did not realize you were half Jewish prima donna.
My father is not a religious man. Balance sheets are his idea of the Torah.

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 04:27 PM
Are the prayers specific or you pray however you feel you should?

I wish I had time to answer better but in brief they are specific to what you are doing. So since we light candles it is the same prayer for lighting the candles on the Sabbath just with Hanukah substituted for Shabbat.

If you are interested in finding out in general terms about Judaism I would suggest reading a book called "The Nine Questions People Ask about Judaism" by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin. There may be even a newer edition of it called the 10 questions;)

And btw I did not mean to imply you would not be a good doctor. I just wanted to impress upon folks my soapbox in regards to medical training these days :p

prima donna
12-12-2009, 04:29 PM
If you are interested in finding out in general terms about Judaism I would suggest reading a book called "The Nine Questions People Ask about Judaism" by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin. There may be even a newer edition of it called the 10 questions;)
I occasionally listen to Prager's radio show, an astute man he is.

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 04:39 PM
I wish I had time to answer better but in brief they are specific to what you are doing. So since we light candles it is the same prayer for lighting the candles on the Sabbath just with Hanukah substituted for Shabbat.

If you are interested in finding out in general terms about Judaism I would suggest reading a book called "The Nine Questions People Ask about Judaism" by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin. There may be even a newer edition of it called the 10 questions;)

And btw I did not mean to imply you would not be a good doctor. I just wanted to impress upon folks my soapbox in regards to medical training these days :p

From my passing observation of Judaism as it currently stands, it appears to be quite a different religion from the Judaism I have come to know solely from reading the Old Testament. I was surprised to have conversations with Jewish people who told me that Talmudic Judaism does not believe in things like heaven, hell, angels, etc.

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 04:40 PM
I occasionally listen to Prager's radio show, an astute man he is.

He is very politically conservative?

prima donna
12-12-2009, 04:42 PM
He is very politically conservative?
One could describe his ideology as conservative, quantitatively, however, it depends on one's political barometer.

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 04:44 PM
One could describe his ideology as conservative, quantitatively, however, it depends on one's political barometer.

Are you conservative?

prima donna
12-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Are you conservative?
That's a tough question, as labels carry different meanings in different times. I suppose that if by conservative one intends an individual who believes in the rule of law, a seat at the table for religion with sufficient limitations of power imposed, and the application of effective yet diluted capitalism, yes; on the other hand, if by conservative one intends social intolerance with respect to abortion, unbridled advocacy of guns and rifles, then no.

*Ljubica*
12-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Wishing all my Jewish friends here Happy Hanukah.

And for PD - because I only discovered this very recently - many congratulations on becoming a Father for the first time. I wish your daughter a happy and healthy life surrounded by love, today and always.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 05:11 PM
Wishing all my Jewish friends here Happy Hanukah.

And for PD - because I only discovered this very recently - many congratulations on becoming a Father for the first time. I wish your daughter a happy and healthy life surrounded by love, today and always.
Your wishes are much appreciated, my dear. :)

*Ljubica*
12-12-2009, 05:17 PM
Your wishes are much appreciated, my dear. :)

You are more than welcome :hug:

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 08:09 PM
I occasionally listen to Prager's radio show, an astute man he is.
Astute is the perfect adjective to describe him. :yeah:
From my passing observation of Judaism as it currently stands, it appears to be quite a different religion from the Judaism I have come to know solely from reading the Old Testament. I was surprised to have conversations with Jewish people who told me that Talmudic Judaism does not believe in things like heaven, hell, angels, etc.

Well that's because the Torah and the Talmud are more important. BTW The Old Testament as you call it is my Hebrew Bible. The writings are the same although in a different order.

scoobs
12-12-2009, 08:11 PM
Your wishes are much appreciated, my dear. :)
You've become a father? Congratulations :)

Aloimeh
12-12-2009, 08:12 PM
Astute is the perfect adjective to describe him. :yeah:


Well that's because the Torah and the Talmud are more important. BTW The Old Testament as you call it is my Hebrew Bible. The writings are the same although in a different order.

By Torah, you mean the Pentateuch - first five books of Moses?

I am surprised that the Talmud is seen as more important than the Prophets and the Writings.

Yes, I know OT = Tanakh, essentially identical except in how certain verses are translated. They mostly use the same Hebrew text - the Massoretic text (at least Protestant Bibles do).

cobalt60
12-12-2009, 08:25 PM
By Torah, you mean the Pentateuch - first five books of Moses?

I am surprised that the Talmud is seen as more important than the Prophets and the Writings.

Yes, I know OT = Tanakh, essentially identical except in how certain verses are translated. They mostly use the same Hebrew text - the Massoretic text (at least Protestant Bibles do).
I mispoke. One writing does not have more meaning over another. They are all important.
There are many sources that are considered the classic texts and I admit I am not well versed at all. There is the 1.Bible - narrative, law and poetry. 2. Talmud 3. Midrash 4. Medieval Bible Commentaries 5. Medieval Jewish Philosophy 6. Kabala Philosophy 7. Teachings of the Hassids and 8. Prayer and the Prayerbook

I am a reform Jew so liberal in my interpretation meaning we question and interpret rather than taking everything at face value. Traditions are very important in all branches of Judaism. However I choose to not have a Kosher home and I drive on Shabbat. And I consider myself a good Jew;)

To put it quite simply being Jewish is about believing that God considers people's actions more important than faith which for Christians is the opposite. That's why we don't think about heaven or hell. What is most important is what you do in life not after it.
Honestly I am much more knowledgeable about Medicine;)

prima donna
12-12-2009, 08:35 PM
What is most important is what you do in life not after it.
Well said.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 08:45 PM
You've become a father? Congratulations :)
Thank you, although it is my Wife whom really ought to be congratulated.

prima donna
12-12-2009, 09:01 PM
I will not post publicly pictures of my daughter, although if anyone (almost anyone) should care to contact me via private message, I will gladly send them.

Here is a photograph of the Wife only months after the pregnancy (other Mothers will appreciate the difficult task of shedding 25 pounds after having given birth):

prima donna
12-12-2009, 09:37 PM
Hanukkah music:
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