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Do all men cheat?

NinaNina19
12-05-2009, 04:28 AM
After the whole Tiger Woods controversy I'm really starting to doubt men completely. My father cheated on my mom with a LOT of women so I've had trust issues to begin. I think if I were to marry someone regardless of how rich and famous I were and how many options I had, I would love and be loyal to that person forever. Do men really only care about sex? How hard is it for a guy to me loyal to one woman forever? Can guys please give me some feedback?

Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

MalwareDie
12-05-2009, 04:29 AM
No, not all of them cheat. You can easily test them too.

NinaNina19
12-05-2009, 04:31 AM
No, not all of them cheat. You can easily test them too.
I read a statistic that 70% of men cheat in marriage.

~*BGT*~
12-05-2009, 04:33 AM
My dad is married (not to my mom). They have been separated for over 10 years. He's living with another woman now. He was two sons with his wife and two daughters (me included) with two different women. My mom didn't know she was "the other woman". All of my brothers have cheated on their wives. Needless to say, I don't have many examples of of male fidelity in my family. :p

NinaNina19
12-05-2009, 04:35 AM
My dad is married (not to my mom). They have been separated for over 10 years. He's living with another woman now. He was two sons with his wife and two daughters (me included) with two different women. My mom didn't know she was "the other woman". All of my brothers ahve cheated in their wives. Needless to say, I don't have many examples of of male fidelity in my family. :p
I know. I hear stories like this all the time. My dad cheated on my mom so much, I'm terrified of relationships.

rocketassist
12-05-2009, 04:39 AM
Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

YES, because my wife would be my number one, and I wouldn't think about anyone else? :confused:

rocketassist
12-05-2009, 04:40 AM
I know a fair few female cheats. They can be as slimy and sneaky.

NinaNina19
12-05-2009, 04:40 AM
YES, because my wife would be my number one, and I wouldn't think about anyone else? :confused:

:worship:If only more men were like you:o.

NinaNina19
12-05-2009, 04:43 AM
I know a fair few female cheats. They can be as slimy and sneaky.

Yeah, 40% of women cheat too.

Gretchen.
12-05-2009, 04:46 AM
No I don't think all men cheat, but they are rare to find these days, really.But I do think they get bored too easily or get scared of the fact that when they marry they will wake up to the same face every single morning for the rest of their lives(just with that sentence you can make a guy run :p).I hate it when people do cheat though, honestly if you aren't happy with the person you're with, then let them go rather than making them go through pain like that.Or if you can't settle down with one person, don't lead someone on to make them think that they are the 'only' woman in your life.Cheating can really mess up a person, just like you now have trust issues because your father didn't think twice when he was going around.

Johnny Groove
12-05-2009, 04:48 AM
The best way is to stay single and just get around. :shrug:

You can't cheat on anyone if you're not with anyone :yeah:

MalwareDie
12-05-2009, 04:53 AM
The best way is to stay single and just get around. :shrug:

You can't cheat on anyone if you're not with anyone :yeah:

:yeah: Good answer. And it's a good thing for the Earth if the population doesn't increase as rapidly so that less strain is placed on it.

Voo de Mar
12-05-2009, 05:04 AM
I suppose it's tough to do the same thing with the same person all the time. I think it concerns many different activities in life, sex is only one of them. IMO marriage and faithfulness are against human nature (especially in man's case) but when someone decides to raise a family, rather should be faithul, especially when there are children :shrug:

bokehlicious
12-05-2009, 05:57 AM
I know a fair few female cheats. They can be as slimy and sneaky.

This.

Men can cheat just for a sex affair, most women need to have some sort of feelings involved to cheat, which is way worse... :o :angel: :p

TMJordan
12-05-2009, 06:03 AM
Cheater = big time doucher

mediter
12-05-2009, 06:11 AM
Do men really only care about sex?

Not really. there are some women for Love and some women for lust.

That's the logic.



How hard is it for a guy to me loyal to one woman forever? Can guys please give me some feedback?

depends on the relationship values of the male.

Temptations will be there. but someone with stronger ethics may able to resist temptations better than those with average strength in their values.

There are some guys who have what you want.

but you will have to look harder. All i can say is look ebyond the surface and think/dig deeper.Identify their core values. you can be more safe.



Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

it depends on whether the woman evokes lust in me.it would be tougher to resist.but i would like to think men with stronger ethics should do fine.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 06:31 AM
I've never cheated on a girl and I never will but I've been cheated on myself.

I know I talk about a lot of sex but I can live without sex. I don't go out and buy hookers or sleep with random women. I wait for a relationship until both are comfortable and if she doesn't want sex, I can be patient.

You learn to be patient with a lot of droughts and I have had just that. I may be a sick man who thinks about sex, but I can live without sex.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 07:08 AM
Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

I didn't answer that question. Yes, I would turn down any female regardless of who they were if they weren't the girl I was with.

rtgy
12-05-2009, 10:29 AM
Do all men cheat?



yes ;)

Ivanatis
12-05-2009, 10:33 AM
zzzzzz

partygirl
12-05-2009, 10:35 AM
I wonder this question too, but i really think a lot of the times it boils down to how another woman can make a man feel about himself, especially when married as opposed to dating.

The "other" woman doesn't even necessarily have to be beautiful, she's just different.

I almost think that despite what society says it might be best to invest in the way you make your spouse feel about themselves (hopefully vise-versa)
rather than always trying to stay young & beautiful, especially if it is til death do you part.:shrug:

The best way is to stay single and just get around. :shrug:

You can't cheat on anyone if you're not with anyone :yeah:you'll also never get too close to anyone:awww:

I didn't answer that question. Yes, I would turn down any female regardless of who they were if they weren't the girl I was with.That is sexy.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 10:48 AM
That is sexy.

Just like you ;)

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 11:44 AM
I didn't answer that question. Yes, I would turn down any female regardless of who they were if they weren't the girl I was with.

Lies. If Amanda Knox was begging for it you wouldn't say no.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 11:53 AM
Lies. If Amanda Knox was begging for it you wouldn't say no.

At the moment as I'm single yes, I wouldn't say no.

But if I was currently with a girl, I would turn her down. I don't cheat. You have to be pretty low to cheat and that's not me.

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 11:55 AM
At the moment as I'm single yes, I wouldn't say no.

But if I was currently with a girl, I would turn her down. I don't cheat. You have to be pretty low to cheat and that's not me.

I have repeatedly. Variety is the spice of life

Certinfy
12-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?Yes, Megan Fox is ugly.

Certinfy
12-05-2009, 12:09 PM
At the moment as I'm single yes, I wouldn't say no.
Bolar being single :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: I would have thought a guy like u would have like 5 girlfriends :p

Byrd
12-05-2009, 12:12 PM
Not all men cheat, but the temptation is there, only being tested by how strong the individuals relationship is with their partner.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 12:15 PM
Bolar being single :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: I would have thought a guy like u would have like 5 girlfriends :p

Nah been single for what, 5 months now I think. I'm not bothered. I'm just not attracted to any of the women I know. Plus most are taken anyway and I couldn't be stuffed going out and deliberately trying to meet chicks. I will wait for it to come naturally at the time being.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 12:23 PM
I have repeatedly. Variety is the spice of life

If I knew the girl was cheating on me and I had facts and proof that it was the case, then I MAY get revenge and cheat with a girl much better looking, videotape it and then send it to her and say that it happened just after we got together. And hopefully, just hopefully she only recently just started cheating on me and she will feel bad for doing it.

But nah, I'm way too nice. I feel bad if I make someone feel like crap. Just the way I am.

So no, I would NEVER, EVER cheat and even if she was cheating on me, I highly doubt I would be able to do it. I would just break up with her and tell her never to contact me again.

Dini
12-05-2009, 12:34 PM
No not all of course, some have the decency to break up or simply remain faithful. But a lot of them do, and lie and make up stories for years until they're found out. The idea of monogamy just doesn't resonate and I wonder then why these people are in a relationship in the first place. How low can you get that you commit to someone and then sleep with several other girls and then keep a straight face to the woman you're in a long-term relation ship with the next morning?

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 12:46 PM
No not all of course, some have the decency to break up or simply remain faithful. But a lot of them do, and lie and make up stories for years until they're found out. The idea of monogamy just doesn't resonate and I wonder then why these people are in a relationship in the first place. How low can you get that you commit to someone and then sleep with several other girls and then keep a straight face to the woman you're in a long-term relation ship with the next morning?

I don't know how anyone could do that.

Ivanatis
12-05-2009, 01:08 PM
I think there are different degrees of cheating. Let's say I have a girlfriend, I cheat on her and tell her the next day. That's perfectly fine in my opinion. That way I offer her the chance to end the relationship or give me another chance. If i know, it is likely to happen again, I myself should end the relationship.

sigmagirl91
12-05-2009, 01:15 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact. If one were to cheat on me, I'd break it off. He can apologize all day long, but there's no going back. Sorry.....I don't deal with cheaters. He did it once, he'll do it again.

Ouragan
12-05-2009, 01:18 PM
After the whole Tiger Woods controversy I'm really starting to doubt men completely. My father cheated on my mom with a LOT of women so I've had trust issues to begin. I think if I were to marry someone regardless of how rich and famous I were and how many options I had, I would love and be loyal to that person forever. Do men really only care about sex? How hard is it for a guy to me loyal to one woman forever? Can guys please give me some feedback?

Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

Don't marry.

Bolar Bolabi
12-05-2009, 01:33 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact. If one were to cheat on me, I'd break it off. He can apologize all day long, but there's no going back. Sorry.....I don't deal with cheaters. He did it once, he'll do it again.

Precisely.

Johnny Groove
12-05-2009, 03:17 PM
you'll also never get too close to anyone:awww:

Oh well :shrug:

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 03:19 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact. If one were to cheat on me, I'd break it off. He can apologize all day long, but there's no going back. Sorry.....I don't deal with cheaters. He did it once, he'll do it again.

On you they probably do. Some poor bastard will love you for what you are some day

MrChopin
12-05-2009, 03:30 PM
On you they probably do. Some poor bastard will love you for what you are some day

:haha:

GugaF1
12-05-2009, 03:43 PM
I think as modern day society goes on, is going to be tougher and tougher to have monogomy relationships trough decades with a person. I think is not in our genes to be like that. Which if you see many scientifically reports, has a calling to spread its DNA as muchas possible. we get this natural impulse several times.

I think a cool solution, and I see happening a lot here in Brazil is swinger clubs. And I think it is pretty cool if the couple is open minded. There are a lof of very high level places. Some of the higher level clubs here are swingers. Say, the couple wants to have fun and play sexually with others in a way where nobody can feel cheated. Just an exchange of open mutual pleasure.

I hear that a lot of couple have greater intense and closer relationship after sharing these experiences.

Everko
12-05-2009, 04:02 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact

not if your talking about reality

ClaudiuS
12-05-2009, 04:08 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact.

Since when a generalisation became a fact? :haha:

Sophocles
12-05-2009, 04:17 PM
If they can, yes. Next.

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 04:21 PM
If they can, yes. Next.

Sophocles = Sigmagirl91's double account. Noted.

sigmagirl91
12-05-2009, 04:24 PM
Sophocles = Sigmagirl91's double account. Noted.


Prove it!!! If you can't, then shut up!!!

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 04:25 PM
Prove it!!! If you can't, then shut up!!!

Were you a guard in Prisoner: Cell Block H? No wonder you can't keep a man - refer to the bad rep.

ExcaliburII
12-05-2009, 04:26 PM
No.

Ive never cheated, 100% truth. I think I will never cheat :shrug: If I would want to be with someone else, I would just break up the realtionship.

Sophocles
12-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Prove it!!! If you can't, then shut up!!!

So *you're* my alter-ego. It must have been our use of exclamation marks that gave it away.

GustavoM_Fan
12-05-2009, 05:47 PM
No.

Ive never cheated, 100% truth. I think I will never cheat :shrug: If I would want to be with someone else, I would just break up the realtionship.

gentleman pablin :lol:

Jōris
12-05-2009, 06:11 PM
Not all men do, but we all feel the desire. A monogamous relationship is about caring and building up love and trust and it's far more than satisfying desires. The thought is always there but betraying that bond is weak and immoral.

sigmagirl91
12-05-2009, 07:23 PM
Were you a guard in Prisoner: Cell Block H? No wonder you can't keep a man - refer to the bad rep.

I'm glad that you think my post was noteworthy enough for a bad rep, sucka!!!:devil:

sigmagirl91
12-05-2009, 07:24 PM
So *you're* my alter-ego. It must have been our use of exclamation marks that gave it away.

Puh-leeze, I don't need an alter ego. I've built up enough momentum behind my "brand" without it. ;)

Clydey
12-05-2009, 07:35 PM
I've sort of cheated once. I was going out with a girl for a few months, but the relationship was coming to an end because she was moving to Belgium. We decided to continue seeing each other until she left. Knowing that we were breaking up, I ended up having sex with another girl before she moved to Belgium. It's not as if we were committed anymore. Having said that, I wouldn't have done it if we were staying together.

Jōris
12-05-2009, 07:52 PM
I've sort of cheated once. I was going out with a girl for a few months, but the relationship was coming to an end because she was moving to Belgium. We decided to continue seeing each other until she left. Knowing that we were breaking up, I ended up having sex with another girl before she moved to Belgium. It's not as if we were committed anymore. Having said that, I wouldn't have done it if we were staying together.

Was it Kim Clijsters?

ExcaliburII
12-05-2009, 07:53 PM
gentleman pablin :lol:

:shrug:. I am honest.

Tell your story with cousin here :spit:

Clydey
12-05-2009, 09:19 PM
Was it Kim Clijsters?

No. Some Chinese girl. A proper Chinese girl. Not some half Scottish/half Chinese girl. We're talking a pure blood here, Arend.

I thought they only screamed like that during sex for porn movies. They do it in real life, too. Seems to be a cultural thing.

GustavoM_Fan
12-05-2009, 10:00 PM
:shrug:. I am honest.

Tell your story with cousin here :spit:

:cuckoo:

safin-rules-no.1
12-05-2009, 10:02 PM
No. Some Chinese girl. A proper Chinese girl. Not some half Scottish/half Chinese girl. We're talking a pure blood here, Arend.

I thought they only screamed like that during sex for porn movies. They do it in real life, too. Seems to be a cultural thing.

Maybe you tapped her anus by mistake. Or removed her blind fold.

Byrd
12-05-2009, 10:19 PM
No. Some Chinese girl. A proper Chinese girl. Not some half Scottish/half Chinese girl. We're talking a pure blood here, Arend.

I thought they only screamed like that during sex for porn movies. They do it in real life, too. Seems to be a cultural thing.

I've heard this rumour but thought it was bollocks. Time to go out and pull some Asian birds me thinks.

Henry Chinaski
12-05-2009, 10:42 PM
No. Some Chinese girl. A proper Chinese girl. Not some half Scottish/half Chinese girl. We're talking a pure blood here, Arend.

I thought they only screamed like that during sex for porn movies. They do it in real life, too. Seems to be a cultural thing.

pressive.

Do all men cheat? No

Would I? Most probably

Certinfy
12-05-2009, 10:48 PM
The OP is making it like ALL men cheat, and that ALL women DON'T.

Clydey
12-05-2009, 11:32 PM
I've heard this rumour but thought it was bollocks. Time to go out and pull some Asian birds me thinks.

You won't be disappointed. Make sure she's 100% Chinese, though, complete with accent. Don't pull an imposter.

Clydey
12-05-2009, 11:45 PM
pressive.


I wish I could tak credit for her pained screams. However, I have a feeling that they'd scream just a loud even if she was being rammed by a guy packin 3 inches. Pretty sure it's cultural. Like a submissive thing, making the guy feel like a God.

In fact, I wrote a story about the experience a few years back.

Those among you who have been sexually active for a few years will no doubt have your own tales from between the bed sheets. Some might be funny, some might be embarrassing, and some might even be painful. I doubtless have a few more hidden somewhere in the back of my memory, but the one that immediately springs to mind concerns my short but sweet relationship with a Chinese girl.

At the time of meeting my soon-to-be sexual conquest, I was working at Cooper Turbocompressor and had been sent on a 4 week IT course at Stow College in Glasgow. On the first day, I scanned the room, as one does, hoping to spot some eye candy to befriend, so as to make my 4 week boot camp as painless as possible. Luckily for me, amongst the herd of insular-looking males, I spotted a solitary femme who piqued my interest. She was Chinese, slim and quite stunning, not to mention likely out my league. Always up for a challenge, I sought to woo her with something of a charm offensive. I had no doubts that I was punching ever so slightly above my weight, but I persisted nevertheless. I find that I'm quite adept at disguising my true intentions when I pursue a girl, and so engaged stealth-mode in the hope that this tactic would yet again prove fruitful.

I befriended her initially, and quickly discovered that she was genuinely Chinese, as opposed to being a Scottish-born imposter. Hearing her accent only served to spur me on. "F**k the IT course," I thought. "My boss will respect the sudden shift in my priorities". After some initial resistance, I achieved a breakthrough. She wanted me to teach her some Scottish colloquialisms. I suggested that we go to the cinema, for once correctly reading a woman's signals. She proved to be tough work, however. I felt the need to push harder than is normal for me. I soon conceded that I would have to chase her and be rather more obvious about my intentions. I did so, and one evening after yet another trip to the cinema, I took the plunge and went in for a snog while we waited for the train. She reciprocated and I quietly rejoiced.

Not so long after this groundbreaking kiss, I reverted to my trademark indifference and her first visit to my house saw her begging me to have sex. I initially resisted, a little through nerves, but mostly because I'm an insufferable tease. I consented eventually and we got to undressing. This was the first of a few revealing moments. Removing her top, I noticed as she raised her arms that she had either neglected to shave or simply did not give a toss. Now, this was simply intriguing more than it was disconcerting. It was unique in my experience, given that I have never shagged anyone before or since who has had more armpit hair than I do. I carried on regardless, surprisingly not the least bit turned off.

As I was about to enter her for the first time, I was reminded of the many Asian porn movies I had witnessed throughout my young life and the way in which the women behaved during intercourse, in contrast to women of other cultures. What I mean by this is that Asian porn stars invariably scream the house down and look like they are in serious pain. I wondered would life imitate "art". It didn't. It surpassed it. My Chinese lady friend more than likely alerted the neighbours, yelping as though I had assaulted her with a pneumatic drill, arms above her head proudly displaying her dedication to remaining natural. This reaction was flattering to say the least. I continued, undeterred by these distractions. Things evolved, as they tend to do, and she hopped on top. As she treated me in the manner one would a pony, she felt this an apt time to initiate the following exchange. I beg of you, forgive the following exchange if it appears offensive, but this was how it went, verbatim.

Her: "Don´t you ruv me?" Me: "What!?" Her: "Rike! Rike! I mean ´Don't you rike me!?´" This was the last straw. I began to giggle quite furiously. We had to stop, as hilarity is not conducive to sexual satisfaction. Luckily she didn´t take offence and we continued to see each other until she moved away to Belgium. Well, I say that she didn't take offence. Then again, she did move to another country a month later.

Henry Chinaski
12-06-2009, 12:06 AM
too good bru

I've never banged anyone even remotely uncaucasian. one of my biggest regrets in life so far

fast_clay
12-06-2009, 12:15 AM
noice one..

yeah... genetics are to blame here... its just written that way... and i think just to move evolution on a little bit we all just have to be accepting to the fact that all men cheat... its ok too... doesnt mean that someone cares for anyone less, its just a little bit of temporary madness... so dont worry about your man's potential to cheat... the feeling passes, in my case, after about 90 seconds... so no real biggie...

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:20 AM
too good bru

I've never banged anyone even remotely uncaucasian. one of my biggest regrets in life so far

She's my only non-white actually. Next on the list is a black woman, I reckon.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:22 AM
noice one..

yeah... genetics are to blame here... its just written that way... and i think just to move evolution on a little bit we all just have to be accepting to the fact that all men cheat... its ok too... doesnt mean that someone cares for anyone less, its just a little bit of temporary madness... so dont worry about your man's potential to cheat... the feeling passes, in my case, after about 90 seconds... so no real biggie...

Not ignoring you, by the way. Going to respond to your PM later. Meant to reply earlier, but forgot you PM'd.

fast_clay
12-06-2009, 12:25 AM
Not ignoring you, by the way. Going to respond to your PM later. Meant to reply earlier, but forgot you PM'd.

bulsh!t, get f**ked mate

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:30 AM
bulsh!t, get f**ked mate

:lol:

Trust me, I'll reply later if you want to stick around.

wDztrw_0N8M

Aloimeh
12-06-2009, 12:31 AM
I wish I could tak credit for her pained screams. However, I have a feeling that they'd scream just a loud even if she was being rammed by a guy packin 3 inches. Pretty sure it's cultural. Like a submissive thing, making the guy feel like a God.

In fact, I wrote a story about the experience a few years back.

Fake sensationalized trash.

:wavey:

~*BGT*~
12-06-2009, 12:31 AM
I wish I could tak credit for her pained screams. However, I have a feeling that they'd scream just a loud even if she was being rammed by a guy packin 3 inches. Pretty sure it's cultural. Like a submissive thing, making the guy feel like a God.

In fact, I wrote a story about the experience a few years back.

:spit: Is this for real? :lol:

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:33 AM
:spit: Is this for real? :lol:

Absolutely. I used to write this stuff in a blog a few years ago. That was written a good 2 or 3 years ago.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:38 AM
Fake sensationalized trash.

:wavey:

Not in the least bit fake. In fact, true almost down to the letter. I've written it in a way that's intended to highlight the humour of the situation, but there's not a word of it that's not true, other than my saying that she had more armpit hair than me. She had hair on her armpits, but obviously not as much as a man. I have plenty of other stories that are written in the same way and are equally true.

Mate, just because you can't get laid until you're married, don't take it out on me.

Aloimeh
12-06-2009, 12:39 AM
Absolutely. I used to write this stuff in a blog a few years ago. That was written a good 2 or 3 years ago.

Perhaps you could compile these stories into a romance novel?

fast_clay
12-06-2009, 12:42 AM
Perhaps you could compile these stories into a romance novel?

he would, and would probably go global... but he hasnt agreed financial terms with his right hand...



i'll stick awownd mate...

Henry Chinaski
12-06-2009, 12:45 AM
I'd buy it

I specialise in writing hard luck stories. my victories tend to be relatively dull

Clydey
12-06-2009, 12:49 AM
Perhaps you could compile these stories into a romance novel?

Only a couple of them are about sex. Would you like to read another?

Over the 10 or so years that I have been exposed to the wonders of porn, it has previously occurred to me that this much stigmatised form of artistic expression occupies a role more diverse than mere titillation. Indeed, one particular occasion springs to mind. About 5 years ago while I was working at my local fire station, porn was oftentimes the topic of discussion, as one would expect in such a testosterone-heavy environment. This was most true of two individuals in particular: Steven and John, the former a reformed chav, and the latter a world champion sleaze merchant. John revelled in telling us tales of his sexcapades and the sex hotlines he called all too frequently. He took great delight in illustrating to us his wanking habits. The first tidbit we were privy to was the particular type of wank John had enjoyed the evening previous. For example: "I had a fucking great posh wank last night". For the uninitiated, this is British slang for masturbating while sporting a condom. Why this is considered "posh" I have no clue. It seemed that John, bless him, had an infinite list of such methods, including a "cheeky wank", a "dirty wank", an "angry wank", so on and so forth. Pick an adverb from a hat, stick it before "wank" and you can be sure that John mentioned it.

Strangely, though, my realisation that porn could be mined for comedy gold was not born out of John regaling me with tales of subtly diverse wanking technqiues. No, it was his fellow deviant and co-worker, Steven, who introduced me to porn so gag heavy that a laugh track would not have felt out of place. The name of the porn in question? No one knows. It was simply a montage of scenes on a tape labelled "Lethal Weapon", which belonged to Steven's dad. Clearly the tape did not contain a single scene of the Mel Gibson 80s classic. Despite this obvious inconsistency, the name was inspired for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it goes without saying that the lady of the house was not an avid porn viewer and was equally unlikely to rifle through the tape collection and settle on "Lethal Weapon". Thus, our heroes' sleaze tape remained a secret.

I managed to coax Steven into lending me the tape. And later that same night, once everyone had gone to bed, I slipped it into the machine for a little late night erotica, as one does. What I expected from this experience was a diamond-hard erection. What I ended up with was sore sides and tears streaming down my face, to the extent that I began to worry that my incessant chuckling had woken my parents. I can only imagine how they would react to their son, pants around his ankles, tugging away while laughing hysterically like he had just watched an episode of Seinfeld. Their mere disappointment would soon give way to concerns for their son's mental health. I'm sure I don't have to tell you gents how distracting it is to be mid-stroke only to then be interrupted by involuntary fits of giggles. Well, this was my plight. And such was the mixture of hilarity and frustration, I eventually had to turn said tape off and relieve myself with the aid of a generic bikini-clad blonde from FHM. An anti-climax, to say the least. I could go into detail about the tape, but I daresay I could not do it justice. Instead, let this suffice and use your imagination to fill in the blanks: Badly dubbed with thick-as-pig-shit Birmingham accents, porn moustaches that put the stereotype to shame and some of the most absurd haircuts ever conceived. Bear in mind, this does not even scratch the surface. In hindsight, it's the type of movie that rewards repeat viewing, such are its subtleties. Did I stumble upon the Citizen Kane of porn or are they all so hilarious?

Aloimeh
12-06-2009, 01:09 AM
I've got your cover.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 01:14 AM
I've got your cover.

:haha:

Credit where it's due.

fast_clay
12-06-2009, 01:15 AM
hahahahahahahah... too big too big...

Byrd
12-06-2009, 02:36 AM
Haha nice

Sophocles
12-06-2009, 09:26 AM
Once f*cked a hooker from Taiwan,which was okay but nothing great. Also had a cute Bangladeshi girl with a cute arse. Very tight. Crap though, because she came absurdly soon and then insisted on having a shower. I hadn't finished and was very pissed off. Seriously poor form. Bitch.

safin-rules-no.1
12-06-2009, 10:17 AM
Once f*cked a hooker from Taiwan,which was okay but nothing great. Also had a cute Bangladeshi girl with a cute arse. Very tight. Crap though, because she came absurdly soon and then insisted on having a shower. I hadn't finished and was very pissed off. Seriously poor form. Bitch.

Well i hope you didn't pay the Bangladeshi.

Sophocles
12-06-2009, 10:21 AM
Well i hope you didn't pay the Bangladeshi.

No. That was a normal pull in a bar.

Vida
12-06-2009, 10:25 AM
yes they do, at least in their mind.

Sophocles
12-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Any girl who's fit & sexually liberated will too. Don;t be fooled guys.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:22 PM
Any girl who's fit & sexually liberated will too. Don;t be fooled guys.

Agreed. Bit of a misconception that women value monogamy more than men do.

Kitty de Sade
12-06-2009, 09:23 PM
Any girl who's fit & sexually liberated will too. Don;t be fooled guys.

No.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Once f*cked a hooker from Taiwan,which was okay but nothing great. Also had a cute Bangladeshi girl with a cute arse. Very tight. Crap though, because she came absurdly soon and then insisted on having a shower. I hadn't finished and was very pissed off. Seriously poor form. Bitch.

Speaking of hookers. My mate is just back from Amsterdam. Slept with 5 hookers in 5 days and spent his whole time shopping in the Red Light District.

Can't see myself ever paying for sex, though. Part of the appeal for me is the woman wanting to sleep with me. It would be a complete turn off knowing that a girl was shagging me because it was her job.

rocketassist
12-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Speaking of hookers. My mate is just back from Amsterdam. Slept with 5 hookers in 5 days and spent his whole time shopping in the Red Light District.

Can't see myself ever paying for sex, though. Part of the appeal for me is the woman wanting to sleep with me. It would be a complete turn off knowing that a girl was shagging me because it was her job.

My mate paid for me once in this escort club called Mr Magoo's. But I didn't pay, never would.

Kitty de Sade
12-06-2009, 09:29 PM
Less emotional fall out if it is a business transaction, and maybe that (for some) would make up the difference. :shrug:

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:29 PM
No.

You think men are more likely to cheat than women? In general, I don't think women put more emphasis on monogamy than men do.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:31 PM
Less emotional fall out if it is a business transaction, and maybe that (for some) would make up the difference. :shrug:

I don't doubt that's part of the appeal for many men. It's not what I get off on, though. Mutual attraction is a turn on for me.

Kitty de Sade
12-06-2009, 09:34 PM
You think men are more likely to cheat than women? In general, I don't think women put more emphasis on monogamy than men do.

I'd say it's closer than before, what with women entering the work place and having access to technology that makes it really easy to do so.

I put the "blame" on biology. Men are hardwired for sex, plain and simple. Women are not. If a woman is cheating, the reasons behind it are far more complex. Most of the time a man cheating is not viewed as gravely as a woman doing the same.

I objected to the notion that a woman being fit and/or sexually liberated is in any way connected to an increased probability of her being unfaithful.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:35 PM
My mate paid for me once in this escort club called Mr Magoo's. But I didn't pay, never would.

:lol: Fair enough. The same principle applies, though. I don't have any moral objections. As far as I'm concerned, prostitution should be legal. The law should have no say in who I have sex with and for what reason. However, the idea of someone shagging me as part of a job would be a turn off for me. I can imagine being in the act and thinking, "She really doesn't want to be doing this."

I'm sure safin-rules-no.1 will have a "witty" response to that last sentence.

Clydey
12-06-2009, 09:42 PM
I'd say it's closer than before, what with women entering the work place and having access to technology that makes it really easy to do so.

I put the "blame" on biology. Men are hardwired for sex, plain and simple. Women are not. If a woman is cheating, the reasons behind it are far more complex. Most of the time a man cheating is not viewed as gravely as a woman doing the same.

I objected to the notion that a woman being fit and/or sexually liberated is in any way connected to an increased probability of her being unfaithful.

Both sexes are hardwired for sex. It's fundamental. I think it's more about attitudes than biology. I don't think men are more likely to stray as a biological imperative, but they may be more likely to cheat simply because it's not as taboo. It's perceived as being more serious if a woman cheats, particularly if children are involved.

In my opinion, any woman who is resistant to social/cultural pressure is just as likely to cheat as a man.

Kitty de Sade
12-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Both sexes are hardwired for sex. It's fundamental.

Not what I meant originally, but if you are referring strictly to a reproductive process, then I agree.

star
12-06-2009, 10:08 PM
I think it's more a matter of ethics than of biology. Who hasn't had the opportunity to "cheat" in a relationship/marriage? The question is whether one makes the choice to decieve another human being for whom he/she professes to care. So much of this depends on a person's own sense of integrity. Do I really want to corrupt myself by decieving and being disrespectful? That's the question to be answered.

Machiavelli
12-07-2009, 07:37 AM
I have never cheated, doubt that I will in the future. Either you love the one you are dating and care about her, or you just stay single. What's the point in being in a relationship if you are flirting and seduccing other women every two seconds. Having a girlfriend just for the sake of having to have someone, in my opinion is stupid. If you are in it just for the sex, stay single, go out more, there are lots of ways how to get laid. Don't mess with other peoples feelings. As they say, what goes around comes around.

kai.
12-07-2009, 09:14 AM
Everyone cheats :p so :rolleyes:

Sophocles
12-07-2009, 04:51 PM
However, the idea of someone shagging me as part of a job would be a turn off for me. I can imagine being in the act and thinking, "She really doesn't want to be doing this."

If she's any good at her job you won't be thinking that. Plus don't forget, some people enjoy their jobs, particularly if they're well-paid. They're not all desperate heroin junkies. Read Belle de Jour.

Re my recent posts in this thread: must try & remember never to turn on my computer when I'm pissed.

Sophocles
12-07-2009, 04:54 PM
I objected to the notion that a woman being fit and/or sexually liberated is in any way connected to an increased probability of her being unfaithful.

Of course it is. The more attractive a woman is, the more offers she gets. Some of them she will be tempted to accept. The more sexually liberated somebody is, the less inhibited they are about making or accepting offers.

Kitty de Sade
12-07-2009, 04:56 PM
Of course it is. The more attractive a woman is, the more offers she gets. Some of them she will be tempted to accept. The more sexually liberated somebody is, the less inhibited they are about making or accepting offers.

Again, no. That is not how women think at all. Options will not determine likelihood of action.

Sophocles
12-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Again, no. That is not how women think at all. Options will not determine likelihood of action.

Really? In my experience a lot of women in relationships are dissatisfied in some way & receptive to advances made in the right way from the right quarters. This is one reason why few relationships last for ever.

star
12-07-2009, 06:02 PM
Really? In my experience a lot of women in relationships are dissatisfied in some way & receptive to advances made in the right way from the right quarters. This is one reason why few relationships last for ever.

I think it depends on the woman. I've been tempted to cheat, but have never done it.

Maybe women who tend to hang out in bars without their partners are more prone to stray. That may be the sample of women you have been sampling. ;) I do think that a dedicated seducer can make headway with even a woman who may be reluctant at first. Luckily there are few who are so dedicated.

Clydey
12-07-2009, 06:14 PM
If she's any good at her job you won't be thinking that. Plus don't forget, some people enjoy their jobs, particularly if they're well-paid. They're not all desperate heroin junkies. Read Belle de Jour.

Re my recent posts in this thread: must try & remember never to turn on my computer when I'm pissed.

I don't doubt that many enjoy their work. And based on what I have heard, a lot of them do a good job of selling that notion. It would always be in my head, though, that it was just a job. I would have no way of knowing whether they were simply putting on an Oscar winning performance. It's just personal preference. I would find it distracting. Then again, I haven't tried it. Maybe I wouldn't give a fuck.

Sophocles
12-07-2009, 06:39 PM
Maybe women who tend to hang out in bars without their partners are more prone to stray. That may be the sample of women you have been sampling. ;)

That & women on the verge of divorce. So you may have a point there.

ad-out
12-07-2009, 06:40 PM
You think men are more likely to cheat than women? In general, I don't think women put more emphasis on monogamy than men do.

This might be true when it comes to a "dating" relationship but I do think that in marriages women tend to stray less because they have such a need to hold their family together - especially if there are children involved. Plus I think married women and mothers tend to view sex as being lower in importance than do married men/fathers. Biologically they don't need it as much. This is not to say that a woman wouldn't form an emotional connection - I just think she would be less likely to act on it. Just my opinion!

Sophocles
12-07-2009, 06:41 PM
I don't doubt that many enjoy their work. And based on what I have heard, a lot of them do a good job of selling that notion. It would always be in my head, though, that it was just a job. I would have no way of knowing whether they were simply putting on an Oscar winning performance. It's just personal preference. I would find it distracting. Then again, I haven't tried it. Maybe I wouldn't give a fuck.

Fair enough. Of course, there are certain physiological giveaways if you are worried it's all an act.... I thnk in general you're only going to visit hookers if you're married or there's something in the idea of it that turns you on.

fast_clay
12-07-2009, 09:48 PM
This might be true when it comes to a "dating" relationship but I do think that in marriages women tend to stray less because they have such a need to hold their family together - especially if there are children involved. Plus I think married women and mothers tend to view sex as being lower in importance than do married men/fathers. Biologically they don't need it as much. This is not to say that a woman wouldn't form an emotional connection - I just think she would be less likely to act on it. Just my opinion!

for sure... i mean, i am single at the moment, but for some reason i still feel the need to cheat... cant wait actually...

LoveFifteen
12-07-2009, 09:55 PM
All men cheat; that's a fact. If one were to cheat on me, I'd break it off. He can apologize all day long, but there's no going back. Sorry.....I don't deal with cheaters. He did it once, he'll do it again.

Actually, no, it's not a fact. Some men cheat; others do not. Some men have a lot of trouble remaining monogamous, and some men feel little or no temptation to cheat. It depends mostly on the person and their genetics.

Not all men do, but we all feel the desire. A monogamous relationship is about caring and building up love and trust and it's far more than satisfying desires. The thought is always there but betraying that bond is weak and immoral.

Sorry, but you can't take the way you feel and generalize it to the whole population. The desire and temptation is not there for everyone. Some people find monogamy very easy, and other people find it difficult.

As for animals, there are some species who are strictly monogamous and some that are highly promiscuous so I would wager that at lot of it has to do with genetics.

Kitty de Sade
12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
This might be true when it comes to a "dating" relationship but I do think that in marriages women tend to stray less because they have such a need to hold their family together - especially if there are children involved. Plus I think married women and mothers tend to view sex as being lower in importance than do married men/fathers. Biologically they don't need it as much. This is not to say that a woman wouldn't form an emotional connection - I just think she would be less likely to act on it. Just my opinion!

Bravo, this.

Women have more complex reasons for cheating, especially emotional ones. Men just aren't that deep. :shrug:

Women in committed relationships would be far less likely to act as well, knowing that most (not all) men will not forgive a cheating spouse.

Most (not all) women rarely leave a relationship because of infidelity, especially when he is the primary breadwinner. If there are children involved, those stats would drop even lower.

fast_clay
12-07-2009, 10:10 PM
Bravo, this.

Women have more complex reasons for cheating, especially emotional ones. Men just aren't that deep. :shrug:

Women in committed relationships would be far less likely to act as well, knowing that most (not all) men will not forgive a cheating spouse.

Most (not all) women rarely leave a relationship because of infidelity, especially when he is the primary breadwinner. If there are children involved, those stats would drop even lower.

yeah... i dont doubt this...

the boilogical clock ends for the girls somewhere along the line, while the lads still gotta get out there and get their funk on 24/7...

Kitty de Sade
12-07-2009, 10:18 PM
yeah... i dont doubt this...

the boilogical clock ends for the girls somewhere along the line, while the lads still gotta get out there and get their funk on 24/7...

What you just said here is the reason why men have and always will run the planet. It's the ultimate trump card. We got the literal and figurative shaft, but we live longer and get better shoes.

Thank god I never wanted kids. :p

Johnny Groove
12-07-2009, 11:05 PM
What you just said here is the reason why men have and always will run the planet. It's the ultimate trump card. We got the literal and figurative shaft, but we live longer and get better shoes.

Thank god I never wanted kids. :p

Not by much.

And women probably spend that amount of time shoe shopping anyway. :cool:

Sjengster
12-07-2009, 11:09 PM
Having listened to my right trainer squeak interminably on a wet pavement the other day, as if I were crushing mice underfoot as I walked, I conclude that superior footwear might indeed compensate women for lives lived under the squelchy heel of patriarchy.

star
12-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Not by much.

And women probably spend that amount of time shoe shopping anyway. :cool:

:rolleyes:

I spend the least amount of time shopping as I possibly can. I hate to shop. If I were wealthy I would have someone shop for me. I like nice things, but I don't like looking for those nice things.

Art galleries and book stores. That's the only kind of shopping I like.

And while we are on it, I don't like getting my hair and nails done and I don't soak for hours in a bubble bath.

I hate these stereotypes.

Johnny Groove
12-07-2009, 11:37 PM
:rolleyes:

I spend the least amount of time shopping as I possibly can. I hate to shop. If I were wealthy I would have someone shop for me. I like nice things, but I don't like looking for those nice things.

Art galleries and book stores. That's the only kind of shopping I like.

And while we are on it, I don't like getting my hair and nails done and I don't soak for hours in a bubble bath.

I hate these stereotypes.

Easy, star, I wasn't that serious :hug: :lol:

star
12-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Easy, star, I wasn't that serious :hug: :lol:

Ok. But watch it. :armed:

Kitty de Sade
12-08-2009, 12:55 AM
Not by much.

And women probably spend that amount of time shoe shopping anyway. :cool:

Shaddap. And men naturally make MUCH better use of their time, don't they? :rolleyes:

cobalt60
12-08-2009, 12:56 AM
I can honestly only answer this question by saying mine does not cheat. Other than that I couldn't care cuz I will never know from firsthand experience. I do find many guys on MTF rather tedious though.

Pfloyd
12-08-2009, 08:54 AM
Do all men cheat? Well no, obviously.

Do many men cheat? Yes. It is an unfortunate fact, but men, like almost any other male animal has a tendency to move on to another partner once they have finished "mating" in terms of having a successor, it's a biological urge that is rather difficult to understand at times, given the modern tendencies of society.

It had not always been this way, in various cultures in Ancient History such as Greece and the Spanish Anarchists in Barcelona, there existed a notion of "free love" in which people, with each others consent, would have multiple partners.

Not that it is something I am defending or attacking, but I think it ought to be put into perspective.

And also, although not to the extent men do, women cheat as well.

So, I humbly think these things have to be taken into a much larger perspective. :)

Johnny Groove
12-08-2009, 01:30 PM
Shaddap. And men naturally make MUCH better use of their time, don't they? :rolleyes:

Of course :shrug:

As if its a question :p

Lee
12-08-2009, 02:28 PM
I can honestly only answer this question by saying mine does not cheat.

+1

So may be the answer to this question is, "No, some men cheat but not all".

Kitty de Sade
12-08-2009, 05:19 PM
Of course :shrug:

As if its a question :p

Oh really? All I need to debunk your theory for ever & ever is this video-

g22xTXSwTwo

Clydey
12-08-2009, 05:57 PM
I cheat on my right hand with my left hand all the time.

Sophocles
12-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Oh really? All I need to debunk your theory for ever & ever is this video-

g22xTXSwTwo

One word: sunbathing.

Harmless
12-08-2009, 06:38 PM
Great read. :spit:

To answer the main question -- people who feel insecure about their desirability as a sexual partner will initiate relations with other people, while at the same time having a safe option at home. It's all a matter of validation and security.

Cheer up, Nina, not everyone is as insecure and narcissistic as mass media tend to portray it. :hug:
Then again, maybe you subconsciously go for that type of person. :shrug:

Sophocles
12-08-2009, 07:25 PM
Yes. I really think that people who cheat are often looking for some sort of validation that their spouses aren't providing. (not that it is necessarily the spouse's job to provide this) Some people are just needier than others for attention, compliments, validation, affection, etc. - and when you have been in a relationship for a long time that sort of "new love" stuff tends to wear off.

This may be true of women (although it may also be a rationalization). Men just want to get laid.

Harmless
12-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Yes. I really think that people who cheat are often looking for some sort of validation that their spouses aren't providing. (not that it is necessarily the spouse's job to provide this) Some people are just needier than others for attention, compliments, validation, affection, etc. - and when you have been in a relationship for a long time that sort of "new love" stuff tends to wear off.

I like how you phrase it as essentially neediness. :yeah:


This may be true of women (although it may also be a rationalization). Men just want to get laid.

:lol:
There's a why behind everything. Men have a problem with admitting to the complexity of their psyche, I know. :p

Andi-M
12-08-2009, 08:38 PM
I think men are more likely to cheat on an insecure partner...

Johnny Groove
12-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh really? All I need to debunk your theory for ever & ever is this video-

g22xTXSwTwo

Looks like they're having a good time :shrug: :cool:

Nidhogg
12-08-2009, 09:04 PM
I cheat on my right hand with my left hand all the time.

Ey mon, keep your head up in the skirtchase. A cold shoulder is better than a sore one.

Sophocles
12-08-2009, 09:28 PM
:lol:
There's a why behind everything. Men have a problem with admitting to the complexity of their psyche, I know. :p

Maybe women have a problem admitting the simplicity of theirs. ;)

fast_clay
12-08-2009, 09:51 PM
:lol:
There's a why behind everything. Men have a problem with admitting to the complexity of their psyche, I know. :p

ignorance is bliss...

Harmless
12-08-2009, 10:35 PM
Maybe women have a problem admitting the simplicity of theirs. ;)

Well, it does go both ways sometimes, true. :D


ignorance is bliss...

So succinctly put.
This is why you're the alpha male of this forum. :hug:

RafitoGoat
12-09-2009, 04:41 PM
After the whole Tiger Woods controversy I'm really starting to doubt men completely. My father cheated on my mom with a LOT of women so I've had trust issues to begin. I think if I were to marry someone regardless of how rich and famous I were and how many options I had, I would love and be loyal to that person forever. Do men really only care about sex? How hard is it for a guy to me loyal to one woman forever? Can guys please give me some feedback?

Edit: If your wife were away and Megan Fox came to you begging for it, would you turn her down?

Yes I would turn her down, her boob are almost nonexistent, I like the ladies with jiggly jugs massively :p plus fox sounds kind of pathetic behavior-wize :o plus american accents aren't hot at all compared to latina or british or central european or south american etccccccccccccccccc :yeah:

mandeep
12-10-2009, 12:08 AM
All men cheat; that's a fact. If one were to cheat on me, I'd break it off. He can apologize all day long, but there's no going back. Sorry.....I don't deal with cheaters. He did it once, he'll do it again.

You sound likely to get cheated on, you seem very uncompromising, which could drive a man insane.

I think a lot of men cheat when they are not happy in arelationship, but instead of get out of it I think men feel that they need to stay with a woman out of loyalty because they made a commitment. They don't know how to just end it and walk away, where most women will just say "sorry I don't love you anymore" or "i loved you once, but I don't feel the same anymore". Furthermore, I think men can compartmentalize physical intimacy and emotional intimacy. I am not making excuses for men, but I think most decent men that cheat, don't cheat after they get caught, once they realize the devastation it causes to their families and loved ones.

Clydey
12-10-2009, 04:26 AM
I perhaps shouldn't admit this, but a woman cheated on her partner with me yesterday.

mandeep
12-10-2009, 04:42 AM
I perhaps shouldn't admit this, but a woman cheated on her partner with me yesterday.

Proof that all women are cheaters!!!!!

Clydey
12-10-2009, 05:06 AM
Proof that all women are cheaters!!!!!

Yes. She represents ALL women. I think that's a fair assumption. :shrug:

Bolar Bolabi
12-14-2009, 02:58 AM
Poor Nina. :(

momo_momo
12-14-2009, 06:06 AM
Not all men do. I know a few.

But here's a surprise, women cheat most of the time. They just don't get caught. I've been doing it a couple of times, not really harmful, but seriously, he didn't have a clue. :haha:

Sjengster
12-14-2009, 04:01 PM
Not all men do. I know a few.

But here's a surprise, women cheat most of the time. They just don't get caught. I've been doing it a couple of times, not really harmful, but seriously, he didn't have a clue.

No point using him as a beard Momo, best to leave him and be true to your sexuality.

Sophocles
12-14-2009, 04:36 PM
Not all men do. I know a few.

But here's a surprise, women cheat most of the time. They just don't get caught. I've been doing it a couple of times, not really harmful, but seriously, he didn't have a clue. :haha:

It's remarkable how naive men are. Seems to be a recent Western thing. The Romans looked on female sexuality the same way rabid feminists regard male sexuality today. Probably only changed to the present silly idealization in the 19th Century. I blame the Romantics. Would make a good subject for a socio-historical essay.

JolánGagó
12-14-2009, 04:39 PM
99% of men cheat.
70% or so of women cheat, the rest would like to but can't due to oppressive societal norms.

Harmless
12-14-2009, 04:43 PM
It's remarkable how naive men are. Seems to be a recent Western thing. The Romans looked on female sexuality the same way rabid feminists regard male sexuality today. Probably only changed to the present silly idealization in the 19th Century. I blame the Romantics. Would make a good subject for a socio-historical essay.

I don't understand your point here.
Besides, female sexuality was viewed quite differently in different periods, early republic not having the exact same social standards as the Pax Romana period and the early christianity period, so you're being a bit too vague on that.

Sophocles
12-14-2009, 07:50 PM
I don't understand your point here.
Besides, female sexuality was viewed quite differently in different periods, early republic not having the exact same social standards as the Pax Romana period and the early christianity period, so you're being a bit too vague on that.

Okay, you get smart points for that. Kind of thing I was thinking of was Juvenal. Even somebody like Catullus, who loves the women he's talking about, expects them to be highly promiscuous. Obviously Cato the Elder is a bit different. The point stands, though, there have been times & places where women have been treated more realistically. Arabian Nights is a good example. Most of the posh princesses in that go out of their way to fuck black slaves.

Vida
12-14-2009, 08:06 PM
99% of men cheat.
70% or so of women cheat, the rest would like to but can't due to oppressive societal norms.

doubt even that many men cheat in flesh.

Harmless
12-14-2009, 08:06 PM
Okay, you get smart points for that.
:lol:
Do they stack? Is there anything I can turn them in for?


Kind of thing I was thinking of was Juvenal. Even somebody like Catullus, who loves the women he's talking about, expects them to be highly promiscuous. Obviously Cato the Elder is a bit different. The point stands, though, there have been times & places where women have been treated more realistically. Arabian Nights is a good example. Most of the posh princesses in that go out of their way to fuck black slaves.If you think Arabian Nights is realistic, you've been watching the wrong TV channels for far too long. :rolleyes: (:p)
I wouldn't say that, at the other end of the spectrum where women are oversexualized, it's so much about female sexuality anyway, it's more about the masculine right of domination and exclusivity than about actual pleasure. :shrug:
But, if anything, men in Rome didn't give much attention to female sexuality at all, it was more of a poet's "idle" occupation, female sexuality in the way that it is discussed today was pretty much next to irrelevant for most of Roman history. Though in some periods, and in some writers, you can see some of the old protovestal, Etruscan animalistic view bleeding out, I'll give you that. But to a very minor extent.(extra smart points for that, yes? :p)

Vida
12-14-2009, 08:07 PM
I bet when Serena finds a boyfriend she will never cheat on him.

Sophocles
12-14-2009, 09:17 PM
:lol:
Do they stack? Is there anything I can turn them in for?


If you think Arabian Nights is realistic, you've been watching the wrong TV channels for far too long. :rolleyes: (:p)
I wouldn't say that, at the other end of the spectrum where women are oversexualized, it's so much about female sexuality anyway, it's more about the masculine right of domination and exclusivity than about actual pleasure. :shrug:
But, if anything, men in Rome didn't give much attention to female sexuality at all, it was more of a poet's "idle" occupation, female sexuality in the way that it is discussed today was pretty much next to irrelevant for most of Roman history. Though in some periods, and in some writers, you can see some of the old protovestal, Etruscan animalistic view bleeding out, I'll give you that. But to a very minor extent.(extra smart points for that, yes? :p)

They'll buid up eventually, yeah, depending on your performance.

I don't think the Arabian Nights are realistic in the sense that genies & magic happen a lot, but in terms of their reflection of human beings' character & sexuality, they're more true to life than modern-day Western men's naive delusions. Of course, the real truth is somewhere in between.

It's generally true that women's sexuality is exaggerated in societies where they have very little freedom, because of course then, they are going to be kicking against their constraints. The weird or perhaps not so weird thing is that in modern Western societies, their sexual ruthlessness is greatly underestimated despite its being exercised all the time, partly because, I guess, men are more inclined to buy their absurd rationalizations, & partly because it's easier to conceal the activity that flows from that ruthlessness (because, for example, it's all right for a woman to get pissed alone with a single male "friend", which in itself is a consequence of the fact that women actually can have male "friends").

As far as ancient Rome goes, I think women's sexuality was thought about a lot: it's far more prominent in literature than you allow, & literature is always the best reflection of how intelligent members of society think.

Goldenoldie
12-14-2009, 10:21 PM
Not all men cheat.

Some of us are too old, fat or ugly to get the opportunity:D

superslam77
12-16-2009, 10:42 PM
I don't cheat or ever cheated but many of my friends tell me they do, including girls. The only other person i know who doesn't cheat is my younger brother :D

superslam77
12-16-2009, 10:44 PM
Not all men cheat.

Some of us are too old, fat or ugly to get the opportunity:D

I am not ugly but i just reached 30's. Never cheated, i take a relationship seriously :)

It's stupid to cheat around, if you just want to get around don't commit. Simple

rocketassist
12-18-2009, 02:39 PM
It's men who put most of the effort in relationships in general anyway...

sammy01
12-18-2009, 02:46 PM
i have only ever been faithful once in all my relationships. don't know if it is just me but the gay world promotes sleeping around more than the straight and i've had many open relationships.

Sophocles
12-18-2009, 02:51 PM
It's stupid to cheat around, if you just want to get around don't commit. Simple

But it's not that simple. In a long-term relationship the sexual passion fades, but the couple is tied together financially, by children, by a shared social circle, & so on. Both parties still have a sex drive.

MJ angel
12-18-2009, 05:47 PM
I bet when Serena finds a boyfriend she will never cheat on him.


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