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Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 01:35 PM
I asked Peta Pan, about starting a thread related to the World Cup and closer to the event, then it will be a sticky.

The draw is coming out on Friday.


Hope for some interesting groups.


Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F Group G Group H
South Africa Argentina England Germany Netherlands Italy Brazil Spain
Mexico South Korea USA Australia Japan NZ North Korea Honduras
France Nigeria Algeria Serbia Cameroon Paraguay Ivory Coast Chile
Uruguay Greece Slovenia Ghana Denmark Slovakia Portugal Switzerland



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Har-Tru
12-03-2009, 01:36 PM
Brazil will win it.

MJ angel
12-03-2009, 01:51 PM
Hope France dismissed first round ...

Iván
12-03-2009, 01:56 PM
no one will want to draw otto's 10 men behind the ball greece

SloKid
12-03-2009, 02:01 PM
Looking forward to the draw, not really too fussed with who we get, as long as it's not Spain, because whenever we qualified for a big competition we drew them.

I guess the ideal draw would be against South Africa, North Korea and Paraguay.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:01 PM
They were shit in the last majors Ivan.

bokehlicious
12-03-2009, 02:02 PM
England being seeded is such a joke... :o

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:02 PM
The Aussies have been talking it up, they would have loved to have got Italy or England again.

French handball team, could be fun. Aussies got no imagination up front.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:03 PM
England being seeded is such a joke... :o

Fuck yeah, total joke. At least the French in the last 3 World Cups have won 1, made the final in another, then there was Korea-Japan :)

Ilovetheblues_86
12-03-2009, 02:03 PM
Paraguay is a tricky team, best opponents are Slovenia, Algeria and New Zealand, perhaps?

SloKid
12-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Paraguay is a tricky team, best opponents are Slovenia, Algeria and New Zealand, perhaps?
It's good that we are being underestimated by most and tbh the names in our team don't exactly strike fear into opponents, but realistically I think we are better than Slovakia, despite them winning the group, as we beat both home and away in qualifying. Teamwise we are very strong, great unity and team spirit.

Paraguay would be nice for some revenge from 2002 and if we'd get South Africa, then we couldn't get any other African team.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:10 PM
I think everyone wants New Zealand.

Everko
12-03-2009, 02:12 PM
Did anyone see that Algeria is in?

bokehlicious
12-03-2009, 02:13 PM
Did anyone see that Algeria is in?

Needless to say we're all partying since they qualified :shrug: :o

Everko
12-03-2009, 02:16 PM
Needless to say we're all partying since they qualified :shrug: :o

I haven't stopped. It's a big deal

Garson007
12-03-2009, 02:16 PM
South Africa, North Korea, Slovenia, Ghana will be the perfect draw for RSA.

jmf07
12-03-2009, 02:17 PM
:o Geography screws Australia again. Hopefully they can get a decent draw but the public will place unrealistic expectations on them after the last world cup and will be expecting them to go deep in the tournmanet :lol:.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:17 PM
England
Algeria
New Zealand
Slovakia

Something like this will happen.

bokehlicious
12-03-2009, 02:18 PM
I haven't stopped. It's a big deal

No-one cares. Get real.

Byrd
12-03-2009, 02:23 PM
England
France/Portugal
Ivory Coast
Australia

This will happen

Byrd
12-03-2009, 02:26 PM
4 times more people live in Algeria than Switzerland idiot. You have to deal with all of us.

Algeria is just there to make up numbers, your be out in the group stages, fact....:)

Thanos
12-03-2009, 02:29 PM
what time the draw??

Iván
12-03-2009, 02:30 PM
They were shit in the last majors Ivan.

2004 euro win will be fresh in the memory, pretty much the same team, their coach is a nutter, maybe the german brian clough, ive heard otto has some of the roughest half time team talks in the history of football.

heat will not be a problem for them , infact the heat will make the matches more slower and tactical which suits them down to the ground.

all the big nations apart from spain and maybe brazil will most likely beat them.

but if they can avoid, they have a good shot against all the other countries and could go deep.

Everko
12-03-2009, 02:30 PM
Algeria is just there to make up numbers, your be out in the group stages, fact....:)

first time in since 1986. 1st time I can even remember. I am happy no matter what. I am just asking we represent ourselves well.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:32 PM
2004 euro win will be fresh in the memory, pretty much the same team, their coach is a nutter, maybe the german brian clough, ive heard otto has some of the roughest half time team talks in the history of football.

heat will not be a problem for them , infact the heat will make the matches more slower and tactical which suits them down to the ground.

all the big nations apart from spain and maybe brazil will most likely beat them.

but if they can avoid, they have a good shot against all the other countries and could go deep.

This is the World Cup, these jokers had their time in the sun. They didn't qualify for the World Cup in Germany, they were a joke in the Euros and just made it here. They aren't getting out of the group stages.

It won't be hot, they are playing in winter there.

Iván
12-03-2009, 02:33 PM
Algeria have no chance in the world cup. qaulified from a poor poor field.

Everko
12-03-2009, 02:33 PM
I want this draw.

Algeria
Brazil
USA
Switzerland

SloKid
12-03-2009, 02:34 PM
what time the draw??
5pm GMT I believe.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:34 PM
what time the draw??

Saturday 5am your time seńor.

Everko
12-03-2009, 02:35 PM
Algeria have no chance in the world cup. qaulified from a poor poor field.

Africa is becoming tougher by the year. Plus we beat out Egypt who beat Italy in the Confed Cup. But continue to underestimate us, that will give us an advantage.

Garson007
12-03-2009, 02:37 PM
2004 euro win will be fresh in the memory, pretty much the same team, their coach is a nutter, maybe the german brian clough, ive heard otto has some of the roughest half time team talks in the history of football.

heat will not be a problem for them , infact the heat will make the matches more slower and tactical which suits them down to the ground.

all the big nations apart from spain and maybe brazil will most likely beat them.

but if they can avoid, they have a good shot against all the other countries and could go deep.
It's in winter. The average maximum temp is under 20 C.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 02:38 PM
It's in winter. The average maximum temp is under 20 C.

Boer boy, the altitude might be a problem for some of the teams.

Byrd
12-03-2009, 02:42 PM
It's funny with the weather, as some commentators were mentioning England had to get used to the heat in Qatar when playing Brazil as it was going to be similiar in SA, Hanson :haha:

Garson007
12-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Boer boy, the altitude might be a problem for some of the teams.
That's why all our group games are scheduled inland; we know what we're doing. :p

out_here_grindin
12-03-2009, 03:03 PM
Africa is becoming tougher by the year. Plus we beat out Egypt who beat Italy in the Confed Cup. But continue to underestimate us, that will give us an advantage.

I agree that africa is a strong region nowadays. I would argue that it is the hardest to qualify from because you have to WIN your group in 2 different rounds. But Algeria's group was weak. Egypt was your only competition. Zambia and Rwanda were weak sides.

But you should not sleep on any team in the world cup for Africa. They have proven they can be a force to be reackoned with (Senegal in 2002, Ghana in 2006). I follow Africa's qualifying and the quality of teams has greatly improved recently.There are no longer just a handful of good teams. Several nations have made strong pushes to become relevant.

Action Jackson
12-03-2009, 03:04 PM
That's why all our group games are scheduled inland; we know what we're doing. :p

Could always play in Bloemfontein, kill them with boredom :)

Jimnik
12-03-2009, 05:31 PM
Allez Côte d'Ivoire! :rocker2:

Markets have them at 27/1, making them 10th favourites. Strong team this year with the two Touré brothers Kolo (Man City) and Yaya (Barca), Eboué, Kalou, Drogba and Dindane.

Hope they don't draw France or Portugal. Would love to see an African nation win this time.

Machiavelli
12-03-2009, 06:19 PM
Greece??

Funny stuff you are using Ivan!

They will get demolished easily, they had enough luck for the nexz 2000 years, pure luck 2004, easiest qualifying group ever and made it barely...

WIll look forward to seeing Algeria getting trashed

Garson007
12-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Could always play in Bloemfontein, kill them with boredom :)
Haha. :yeah:

.-Federers_Mate-.
12-03-2009, 11:51 PM
i hope we get slovenia,the hosts and chile. Hope to avoid the germans and the dutch :scared:

.-Federers_Mate-.
12-03-2009, 11:54 PM
Algeria have no chance in the world cup. qaulified from a poor poor field.

i agee, dont think they will get an easy draw and dont believe they will score either. There only half-decent player is karim Ziani and like NZ they should be just happy to be there ;)

save ausdecline
12-04-2009, 12:25 AM
Australia is a 50/50 chance of making it through to knockout stages.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 12:59 AM
Paraguay is a tricky team, best opponents are Slovenia, Algeria and New Zealand, perhaps?

for Argentina (same situation than Brazil)

Death Group
ARGENTINA
FRANCE, PORTUGAL or DENMARK
IVORY COAST or NIGERIA
MEXICO

easiest group
ARGENTINA
SLOVENIA OR SLOVAKIA?
ARGELIA ?
HONDURAS, NEW ZEALAND OR any KOREA?


ridiculous to have Mexico in POT2 :cuckoo: :rolleyes:

http://www.canchallena.com/anexos/fotos/19/1122719.jpg

orangehat
12-04-2009, 01:12 AM
Not seeding the other teams is quite bad IMO.

You could get a SA-NZ-Paraguay-Any country minus france and portugal group.

betowiec
12-04-2009, 02:47 AM
Australia is a 50/50 chance of making it through to knockout stages.

lets see who will be in their group :)

Baghdatis#1
12-04-2009, 03:58 AM
This is the World Cup, these jokers had their time in the sun. They didn't qualify for the World Cup in Germany, they were a joke in the Euros and just made it here. They aren't getting out of the group stages.

It won't be hot, they are playing in winter there.

A joke in the euros? :spit:
So according to you, joke teams can win the euros? :haha:

Baghdatis#1
12-04-2009, 04:02 AM
Greece??

Funny stuff you are using Ivan!

They will get demolished easily, they had enough luck for the nexz 2000 years, pure luck 2004, easiest qualifying group ever and made it barely...

WIll look forward to seeing Algeria getting trashed

Greece is much better than you think! :rolleyes:
Yeah, 2006 WC and 2008 EC was a disaster, but Greece is back on track ;)

Also good luck to your Croatia!
Oh wait, they didn't qualify :lol:

SloKid
12-04-2009, 08:09 AM
A joke in the euros? :spit:
So according to you, joke teams can win the euros? :haha:
Euro 2008.
Greece is much better than you think! :rolleyes:
Yeah, 2006 WC and 2008 EC was a disaster, but Greece is back on track ;)

Also good luck to your Croatia!
Oh wait, they didn't qualify :lol:
Can you explain exactly why Greece is so much better?

How old are you? You can't be more than 15 or 16 with the way you reply to posts. :rolleyes:

Peta Pan
12-04-2009, 08:47 AM
Can't wait for the draw!!!
Trying to decide whether to wake up at 5am to watch it... not really my ideal waking hour on a Saturday morning!

I'm waiting for the Aussies to draw Portugal/France and something like the Ivory Coast in our group :sobbing:

I'm happy for teams like Algeria and NZ. Although they'll struggle it is great that they are there. It means so much to a country to make the WC finals when they haven't been there for so long, like it was for us 4 years ago - the most AMAZING feeling

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 11:35 AM
A joke in the euros? :spit:
So according to you, joke teams can win the euros? :haha:

They were a huge success in Euro 2008 were they?

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 12:27 PM
England being seeded is such a joke... :o

Well if it goes on last 3 WCs the Dutch would have been the ones not seeded cause they didn't qualify in 2002.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 12:29 PM
They were a huge success in Euro 2008 were they?

Greece's negative tactics were put out to dry that tournament, great to see.

Stensland
12-04-2009, 12:44 PM
while i'm not a huge fan of greece either, i do believe they will survive the group stages. it's just too easy, think about it: apart from a big team they will face north korea and honduras, for example. the other asian teams are equally hilarious.

plus greece doesn't play that defensive anymore, where do you get that? in kiev rehhagel decided to start with 3 (!) strikers (yes, samaras is a striker) - i don't remember us playing with 3 strikers even in finland or azerbaidjan.

obviously rehhagel still forces his players to act and think defensively but claiming his whole idea of football is based on nothing but that is simply incorrect.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
Japan and South Korea have always been decent Asian sides, can't compare them to North Korea really.

SloKid
12-04-2009, 01:22 PM
I wouldn't call Asian teams hilarious at all. South Korea and Japan are quite solid, Australia for footballing purposes falls under Asia too and they are certainly no pushovers either. It's hard to say about North Korea though, on paper they probably are the weakest team in the WC, but also the biggest unknown for most as only a handful of their players play outside of their little North Korean bubble and even those that do play abroad, play in the likes of Japan, China or South Korea, with only two playing in Europe, one in Switzerland and the other in Russia.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 01:38 PM
Good stuff that Saudi Arabia isn't qualified...their last participations in the last 2 WC were horrible to say the least.

Can't forget that 0-8 against Germany in Japan :lol:

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 01:40 PM
A couple of things are for sure...

Portugal or France will have the pleasure of joining a "death group". :p

Everko
12-04-2009, 03:09 PM
Greece??

Funny stuff you are using Ivan!

They will get demolished easily, they had enough luck for the nexz 2000 years, pure luck 2004, easiest qualifying group ever and made it barely...

WIll look forward to seeing Algeria getting trashed


I will look forward to croatia getting thrashed... wait a minute

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:19 PM
Good stuff that Saudi Arabia isn't qualified...their last participations in the last 2 WC were horrible to say the least.

Can't forget that 0-8 against Germany in Japan :lol:

They weren't that bad last time, conceded an equaliser to Tunisia with the last kick of the game and had enough chances to take a point off Spain.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Algeria are the worst African side, yes they are better than NZ, but most sides are.

Everko
12-04-2009, 04:28 PM
Algeria are the worst African side, yes they are better than NZ, but most sides are.

maybe so. But not by too much.Remember Egypt won the CAF probably the ebst african side at that point. But we beat them out for the WC

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:28 PM
Saudi Arabia was decent in 1994. But in 2006 Ukraine beat them pretty hard.

Also I still can't believe Ukraine reached the QFs in 2006. :lol: So funny. Shevchenko :worship:

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:29 PM
A couple of things are for sure...

Portugal or France will have the pleasure of joining a "death group". :p

Perhaps not if South Africa are their group opponents or if Algeria and NZ make up the group with them and the other big team.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:30 PM
Saudi Arabia was decent in 1994. But in 2006 Ukraine beat them pretty hard.

Also I still can't believe Ukraine reached the QFs in 2006. :lol: So funny. Shevchenko :worship:

Ukraine should have qualified this time, losing to the negative Greeks after taking a draw in Athens is bad shit. Still Sheva will get the chance to play a European Championship in three years.

SloKid
12-04-2009, 04:33 PM
I'm not so sure about that, he'll be almost 36 then.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:35 PM
Ukraine should have qualified this time, losing to the negative Greeks after taking a draw in Athens is bad shit. Still Sheva will get the chance to play a European Championship in three years.

Ukraine played absolutely terrible in their last match against the greeks. :tape:

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Ukraine played absolutely terrible in their last match against the greeks. :tape:

Jokers. Rather have teams who have a go in the competition, Greece will bore everyone stiff.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:37 PM
I'm not so sure about that, he'll be almost 36 then.

He will but it's a European Championship, something he's never played in before, and at home so unless he opts to retire I can see that being his swansong.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 04:37 PM
maybe so. But not by too much.Remember Egypt won the CAF probably the ebst african side at that point. But we beat them out for the WC

They are the worst side, and Egypt do nothing at World Cup level.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:39 PM
I remember in the EURO 2004... Greece made it all, with Dellas, Zagorakis and Charisteas. :tape:. This means just a header in the 2nd half coming from a big guy (Charisteas or Dellas) and then everybody at the back to hold on and bug the opponent with some rather unefficient counter attacking football.

Everko
12-04-2009, 04:40 PM
They are the worst side, and Egypt do nothing at World Cup level.

Algeria also beat the supposedly good teams of Senegal and Gambia in the early rounds.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Gambia hahahaha.

Greece in Euro 2004, that was jogo bonito at its best, effective for sure.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Hope England don't get anything too piss easy but nothing like France/Australia/Ivory Coast either.

Something like Ghana, Serbia, Australia/Uruguay would be fine.

Everko
12-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Gambia hahahaha.

Greece in Euro 2004, that was jogo bonito at its best, effective for sure.

gambia has very good youth teams but choke like a dog when it comes to the real teams

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Gambia??? WTF???

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:45 PM
Who would be the lucky ones to face North Korea or Honduras?

Ivory Coast is one scary team, along with South Korea. Good stuff that Chile doesn't have to face any African team, except South Africa of course.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 04:47 PM
North Korea aren't that bad, they are fit, run all day, got reasonable technical level, but lack international experience.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:49 PM
So NZ is the worst in your opinion? :p

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 04:50 PM
NZ are clearly the worst side.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 04:53 PM
South Africa
Greece or Slovakia
Chile
New Zealand

*fingers crossed*

Thanos
12-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Who would be the lucky ones to face North Korea or Honduras?

Ivory Coast is one scary team, along with South Korea. Good stuff that Chile doesn't have to face any African team, except South Africa of course.

agreed. chile struggles against teams that can out muscle them. they had huge trouble containing adriano during qualifying.

plus i expect the african teams to play better in their home tournament just like korea in 2002.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 05:12 PM
NZ are clearly the worst side.

Would say they are among them, but Chris Greenacre plays in NZ under their coach so I hope they don't get hammered.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 05:51 PM
They should be starting the shit soon.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:05 PM
Argentina Group B :lol:
we can get South Africa in R16 maybe

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:08 PM
South Africa vs Mexico = the opening match.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:09 PM
Mexico in not Arg Group ;)


Korea Republic in Group B. vamoooooo :clap2:

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:09 PM
England got the USA, fix.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:09 PM
England and the USA, haha.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:11 PM
Aussies got the Germans.

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Italian luck...But I'd love that group, we do well against Italy.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:12 PM
http://www.fifa.com/live/competitions/worldcup/finaldraw/index.html

Italia vs New Zealand :rolleyes:

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:13 PM
Germany v Australia :o

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Now the other African and South American teams.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Argentina and Nigeria again..

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:14 PM
Argentina v Nigeria again.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:15 PM
fuckkk just like World Cup 2002 :o

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Brazil and Ivory Coast, this could be fun, hehe.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
We get the Algerians.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Argelia in England Group :haha:

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
England
USA
Algeria

Fuck this is the clown group.

ryan23
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
USA and Algeria, nice :)

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Germany
Aussies
Uruguay

Hahaha, good shit.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:18 PM
Uruguayos en Group A eh. hard one with Mexico and the locals

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:19 PM
Spain and Chile in the same group

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Germany
Australia
Ghana

ffs :o

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:21 PM
Group A :eek:

Thanos
12-04-2009, 06:21 PM
chile in spain group woooooooooooooooo will the real la roja stand up

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:21 PM
Rigged for France again. :rolleyes:

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:21 PM
France in the South African group :haha:

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:21 PM
Clone of Argentina's 1994 group except Bulgaria for South Korea.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:22 PM
Greece :lol:

good luck kostas

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:22 PM
Argies got a great group.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:22 PM
Slovenia in with us and the Yanks.

ryan23
12-04-2009, 06:23 PM
haha i love it, piss easy group

Thanos
12-04-2009, 06:23 PM
group c is a joke. huge fix for england

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:23 PM
Slovenia got England.

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:23 PM
Could've been better. :( But oh well, we can compete with USA and Algeria I think.


Group D is a killer.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:24 PM
Come on, get Portugal in Brazil's section.

GustavoM_Fan
12-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Argies got a great group.

yes but a hard match coming by sure in a supposed R16 :)

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Italy got such an easy group. :rolleyes: New Zealand...Slovakia, who've beaten twice.

Brazil, Ivory Coast and Portugal. :eek: Which means people in North Korea won't see any football on tv. :sad:

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Group G- group of death.

scarecrows
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Italy's draw :spit:

Group D is gonna be nice

ryan23
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
group c is a joke. huge fix for england

Why else would Beckam be there :D

scarecrows
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
P. Antonius and Gago will love the draw

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
German group looks tough :o same with the one of the Netherlands and Brazil.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:27 PM
England are still shit.

bokehlicious
12-04-2009, 06:27 PM
P. Antonius and Gago will love the draw

Hopefully we'll be up for Chile and Honduras, so could afford losing to Spain...

Byrd
12-04-2009, 06:29 PM
Haha at the haters :haha:, North Korea lol

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Chile vs Switzerland, key match of the group.

SloKid
12-04-2009, 06:31 PM
We'll play Algeria first, then USA and then an already qualified England last. So at least the schedule is favourable.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:31 PM
All Groups are in the OP.

scarecrows
12-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Only Algeria instead of Paraguay would have made Italy's draw easier

bokehlicious
12-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Chile vs Switzerland, key match of the group.

Yup, too bad we'll play first, could have been a thrilling third match...

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:34 PM
Yup, too bad we'll play first, could have been a thrilling third match...

We play the second match.

Purple Rainbow
12-04-2009, 06:35 PM
I like our group.
Japan, Cameroon and Denmark. Countries who actually want to play football, rather than sit back and hope for a counter attack.

bokehlicious
12-04-2009, 06:36 PM
We play the second match.

Right, my bad, my commentator got it wrong...

Zirconek
12-04-2009, 06:38 PM
Brazil's group is tough but we can go through and get a good rhythm for the last stages.

Byrd
12-04-2009, 06:38 PM
Potential Spain Vs Brazil R16 :lol:

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:39 PM
England and Italy got the easiest ones.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:40 PM
Potential Spain Vs Brazil R16 :lol:

Portugal vs Spain, imo.

Byrd
12-04-2009, 06:41 PM
Portugal vs Spain, imo.

Don't see Portugal beating Ivory coast.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:42 PM
Brazil will top their group.

Garson007
12-04-2009, 06:43 PM
Terrible draw for South Africa. :o :bigcry:

Edit: Also, lol, Charlize Theron was not impressed with her co-host.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Hopefully Drogba will have revenge on Cristiano for Moscow and send the divers home.

England's draw is better than I wanted it to be, they needed a test of sorts, suppose the USA are half decent but it's still the USA and it's still soccer.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Terrible draw for South Africa. :o :bigcry:

If anything is a fix it was unseeded France effectively being a 'seed' by getting that draw.

Purple Rainbow
12-04-2009, 06:45 PM
England and Italy got the easiest ones.

France as well... :rolleyes:

Purple Rainbow
12-04-2009, 06:47 PM
Hopefully Drogba will have revenge on Cristiano for Moscow and send the divers home.

England's draw is better than I wanted it to be, they needed a test of sorts, suppose the USA are half decent but it's still the USA and it's still soccer.

Brits calling football soccer? The end really is near.... :scared:

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:47 PM
South Africa will lift. France aren't that good either, could be some very average football in that group.

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:48 PM
France as well... :rolleyes:

It's not good to underestimate Uruguay. ;)

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:48 PM
Brits calling football soccer? The end really is near.... :scared:

No, he was making fun of the US calling it soccer.

Noleta
12-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Group G and D:eek::eek:

Italy/England/France having a by to round of 16:p:lol:

ryan23
12-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Terrible draw for South Africa. :o :bigcry:

Edit: Also, lol, Charlize Theron was not impressed with her co-host.

Yep,brutal

Purple Rainbow
12-04-2009, 06:52 PM
It's not good to underestimate Uruguay. ;)

I'll never underestimate Luis Suarez! :)

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:52 PM
Geeez, poor North Koreans.

zerocool_
12-04-2009, 06:53 PM
I'm happy with Serbia group, could have been much worse, if we play as we can we should top that group :)

Garson007
12-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Sure Group A will have average football - no world beaters - but the three teams drawn against RSA actually have talent, which is bad news. No real bad team in the group; I blame the lack of Asian sides for it.

rocketassist
12-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Geeez, poor North Koreans.

The worst thing is not the draw but the fact the people won't find out about it.

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Mexico can play at altitude, but aren't great travellers. France will cheat and Uruguay are a tough team, but can be too conservative, even with Luis Suarez and Forlan.

Byrd
12-04-2009, 06:56 PM
So what group is Ireland in?

ClaudiuS
12-04-2009, 06:58 PM
France will cheat

Right, I haven't thought of that. :p

betowiec
12-04-2009, 07:18 PM
Greece :lol:

good luck kostas
so much for Greece to make some noise
:haha:

Action Jackson
12-04-2009, 07:32 PM
Portugal will get support from the large Portuguese community in RSA and Ronaldo will be crying, at least he will have some relatives from Madeira there to give him some Nandos.

betowiec
12-04-2009, 07:52 PM
Portugal will get support from the large Portuguese community in RSA and Ronaldo will be crying, at least he will have some relatives from Madeira there to give him some Nandos.

keep on hating

Bibberz
12-04-2009, 07:54 PM
Prediction:

1. Either England or Slovenia will choke...somehow.
2. The U.S. will finish RU in Group C.
3. The U.S. will play and beat Germany in the R16 and get revenge for Torsten Frings' handball in the 2002 WC QF:

http://www.paulbracher.com/blog/wp-images/2006images/frings_handball_2002.jpg

4. No one in the U.S. will give a shit. :sad:

out_here_grindin
12-04-2009, 08:17 PM
London will burn

jmf07
12-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Australia's draw isn't what I wanted. Three very tough opponents without the big matchup (Germany is big but nowhere as big as a matchup as England or Italy would have been) although I suppose at least we didn't get the group containing Brazil, Portugal and Ivory Coast. I feel sorry for the Ivory Coast because didn't they get a bad group in 2006 as well?

SloKid
12-04-2009, 11:04 PM
I feel sorry for the Ivory Coast because didn't they get a bad group in 2006 as well?
Yes, they did, Serbia and Montenegro, Netherlands and Argentina. I think they are better than Portugal though, definitely dark horses to maybe win it all.

Kournikovaism
12-05-2009, 12:36 AM
I guess I'll support North Korea since Ireland aren't there :lol: And my Euro 2008 faves Russia didn't qualify.

Jimnik
12-05-2009, 01:22 AM
Shit draw, couldn't have been much worse really. Can't believe one of Paraguay, NZ or Slovakia will qualify while either Portugal or Ivory Coast get knocked out. Not to mention one of Switzerland, Honduras or Chile will also progress.

Group B brings back memories of USA 94.

Action Jackson
12-05-2009, 03:05 AM
keep on hating

Come back to me, when Ronaldo does something in big games.

Henry Chinaski
12-05-2009, 03:41 AM
Ivorians got fucked hard again. but still, they have a great chance. portugal are nothing special. I really want to support them with my imaginary inverted flag but drogba's face makes it so hard.

ghana got a bitch-hard group again too. they made it out of it last time, hopefully they can do it again.

Henry Chinaski
12-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Shit draw, couldn't have been much worse really. Can't believe one of Paraguay, NZ or Slovakia will qualify while either Portugal or Ivory Coast get knocked out. Not to mention one of Switzerland, Honduras or Chile will also progress.

Group B brings back memories of USA 94.

bad example of a bad draw citing paraguay. did you watch them in qualifiers at all?

with their favourable draw they seem the most likely team to be dark horse semi-finalists.

out_here_grindin
12-05-2009, 03:50 AM
Paraguay are a serious team, do not put their name in the same sentence as NZ

Action Jackson
12-05-2009, 03:56 AM
Paraguay, a very tough side to play against. NZ would love to be at that level.

Arkulari
12-05-2009, 04:12 AM
comparing Paraguay to NZ is like comparing Nigeria to San Marino :rolleyes:

the south american play-offs are probably one of the hardest ones in the world, the teams that make through it are worth it, there aren't as many weak teams as in Europe and things are pretty even

We got a pretty decent group, hopefully we can avoid Brazil till the final :p

jmf07
12-05-2009, 05:52 AM
Shit draw, couldn't have been much worse really. Can't believe one of Paraguay, NZ or Slovakia will qualify while either Portugal or Ivory Coast get knocked out. Not to mention one of Switzerland, Honduras or Chile will also progress.

Group B brings back memories of USA 94.

If they can top the group as favourites it becomes a nice draw for them.

NoFroz
12-05-2009, 06:38 AM
We got an interesting group, can't say I'm glad with it, but I expect to be entretaining. France is better than us, but is not that solid, and I reckon we have a better team than Mexico and SA. Should we get our sh#t together I fancy our chances.
Anything can happen though, there's not a sinlge outcome that'd surprise me.


France will cheat

I actually think they aren't gonna be favoured at all after Henry's handball. Anyway, time for my country to get some revenge for my irish blood :devil:

SloKid
12-05-2009, 12:21 PM
We played a friendly against England in September at Wembley and lost 2-1.

Rooney did this:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2j32ruu.jpg

You'd think he'd at least get booked for that, right? Well not quite, the ref thought it's a penalty for England. :retard: It was the same ref that didn't see Henry's hand ball. :o

Ivanatis
12-05-2009, 12:36 PM
No, it wasn't. They were both Swedish though.
Apart from that people should stop bashing the referee from the France-Ireland game. Of course he was wrong, but he didn't have a clear view. If sb. should have seen it, it was the his assistant.

SloKid
12-05-2009, 12:48 PM
No, it wasn't. They were both Swedish though.
Apart from that people should stop bashing the referee from the France-Ireland game. Of course he was wrong, but he didn't have a clear view. If sb. should have seen it, it was the his assistant.
Oooh my bad, I knew Eriksson refereed some game recently and it was mentioned here, but it was the decider in our qualifying group between Poland and Slovakia.

And it's the ref's job to find a clear view. :p If his assistant was on the other side, then he had his view obstructed too and it was up to the ref to see it. But anyway, I agree, it's time to move on.

Action Jackson
12-05-2009, 12:50 PM
Rooney doesn't mind a bit of niggle and he can get be goaded into losing his temper.

He is a shit referee, players deserve their performances scrutinised as do referees.

Garson007
12-05-2009, 12:58 PM
Technology is the only way forward. How exactly they will implement it will be interesting, as it might cause a lot of drop ball situations in the wrong locations.

Ivanatis
12-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Referee's performances aren't scrutinized? Don't know anything about the UEFA's or FIFA's regulations in this matter, but I thought there is some kind of evaluation process going on, at least when the question occurs which referee should be appointed for "big matches" such as CL finals.

It was absolutely impossible to see for the referee that Henry had his hand on the ball as there were like 3 to 4 other players standing in the way. I can't say for sure if Gallas was in the way of the linesman's view, but I'm pretty sure that it was not to an extent that he can be called completely innocent. However, the real loser in this scenario wasn't an official, it was Henry of course.

I've always thought Anders Frisk to be one of the top refs out there, bad to see his fellow countrymen in severe struggle right now.

shotgun
12-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Tough group for Brazil, but North Korea will be the punching bag. Brazil vs. Portugal will be interesting with three Brazilians playing for them, too bad Scolari doesn't coach them anymore.

Group A is clearly the group of death.

Germany and Netherlands also got difficult groups.

England, Italy and Spain got eaaaasy groups.

ClaudiuS
12-05-2009, 02:31 PM
Now we will see which tactic will suceed :p

Rehagel's in Greece "a single counter attack with a massive wall building around their own goal"

vs.

Maradona's "you play in the top teams, you know what to do, and do it for your country."

GugaF1
12-05-2009, 03:47 PM
People should stop counting as if Brazil is set to win. Sure Brazil has great chances and technically and talent wise it is second to none. But football nowdays is very competetive everywhere. There are hardly any huge gaps anymore or amateurs.

Still, I would say if Brazil plays what it can has great chances, but is hardly a lock already, like some make it out to be.

Garson007
12-05-2009, 03:52 PM
Considering the position of the draw, England is best placed, imho.

Everko
12-05-2009, 04:33 PM
I like our draw. We get to have big matches vs England and USA and a winnable game vs Slovenia.

Since everyone is throwing us out in the cold, I think we could sneak up on Slovenia and the USA.

El Legenda
12-05-2009, 05:14 PM
On sale: 1 million World Cup ticketsEmail Print Share ESPN.com news services

CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- Soccer fans have begun applying for 1 million tickets to 2010 World Cup matches after Friday's draw.

The latest online sales phase opened Saturday, now that the 32 teams know where and when they play first-round matches in South Africa.

Fans must apply by Jan. 22. Twelve percent of the tickets are distributed by national associations taking part. Tickets to oversubscribed matches are allocated by lottery.

The most popular likely will be the June 12 clash in Group C between the United States and England -- the two foreign countries that bought the most tickets in earlier rounds of sales.

South African fans pay $19 for the cheapest seats at group matches. International prices start at $80.

According to organizers' latest figures, 84,103 of 674,403 tickets sold prior to Saturday's phase have gone to the United States, the most of any country besides South Africa. The United Kingdom has the next most at 48,388.

The U.S. plays Slovenia at Johannesburg's Ellis Park on June 18 and completes the first round on June 23 against Algeria in Pretoria. The U.S. has never played either nation.

All three games will be at venues where the U.S. played at this year's Confederations Cup, and all are at altitudes of 3,700 feet or higher. The Americans lost to Italy and Brazil in Pretoria, defeated Egypt in Rustenburg to advance to the semifinals, then took a two-goal halftime lead against Brazil in the final at Ellis Park before losing 3-2.

LeChuck
12-05-2009, 05:32 PM
It is a shame that the Ivory Coast have been drawn in a Word Cup Group of Death once again, but still I fancy their chances of reaching the last 16 instead of Portugal.
The race for 2nd place in Group D will be very tasty.
I bet on Brazil to win the tournament over a year ago, after they had been held to 3 consecutive 0-0 draws at home in their qualifying campaign. I would expect them to come good in a non-European World Cup once again.

ClaudiuS
12-05-2009, 05:34 PM
The Group A is the Death Group IMO. :p

Arkulari
12-06-2009, 05:26 AM
how do you see your chances against us Claudio?

I think we can beat both Switzerland and Honduras, but Chile ain't a mug team, you boys can be pretty tricky, hopefully we can get a draw or an ugly win :p

Baghdatis#1
12-07-2009, 03:16 AM
Can you explain exactly why Greece is so much better?

How old are you? You can't be more than 15 or 16 with the way you reply to posts. :rolleyes:

I am 17 ;)
And do you have a problem with my age? :rolleyes:

Greece wasn't doing that well from 2006 till about a few months ago. In the past few games, Greece has been playing a lot better than they have in the past few years (I saw the games. I admit it, we sucked lately, but now we are back on track!)

Go watch the last few Greece games and compare them to the ones earlier this year (like the loss to Switzerland a few months ago or the time we tied Moldova and you'll see what I'm talking about;))

Action Jackson
12-07-2009, 03:22 AM
Portugal are the Inter Milan of international football, fucking pretenders.

Everko
12-07-2009, 02:38 PM
The Group A is the Death Group IMO. :p

no way. Mexico is old. South Africa could surprise. Infact Im calling it now, South Africa will beat Mexico in the first game. Mark it down. But France and Uruguay are not too good. Weak group I think

Stensland
12-07-2009, 07:24 PM
a: france will easily advance, mexico will probably edge out uruguay. no chance for south africa. they might get a draw vs. uruguay though as the south americans are vastly overrated. did anyone watch their encounters with costa rica? good lord.

b: diego's men at the top with one slaughtering that makes them the hottest team in town (like a 6:1 drubbing vs. korea), greece advancing as well, nigeria third.

c: england through with 9 points and something like 7-0 goals. surprisingly algeria takes the second spot, toppling the u.s. in the final game.

d: serbia unfortunately plays the way it can for a change and beats us handily, leaves the group stage with 9 points. we're coming in second but australia gives us a run for our money.

e: europe all the way: the dutch and the danish advance.

f: what a joke this group is. even italy's benchwarmers would rule here. italy one, slovakia edging out paraguay.

g: brazil takes this one astonishingly easily, drogba and his bunch come in second. portugal out and north korea getting blasted in every match, ending up with a tally like 0:12 goals.

h: for some reason i see honduras taking the second spot after spain.

mark my words. :) ;)

Everko
12-07-2009, 07:26 PM
:surprisingly algeria takes the second spot, toppling the u.s. in the final game.

:worship:

Stensland
12-07-2009, 07:30 PM
i mean it. when it comes to playing football, algeria are certainly the second best team. it's all about getting it together on the big stage mentally and tactically.

alg-slo 3:0
alg-eng 0:2
alg-usa 2:1

Byrd
12-07-2009, 07:40 PM
USA have shown enough at the confeds cup that they will beat Algeria, Everko :lol:

Jōris
12-07-2009, 07:45 PM
I've a hunch England will win.

Stensland
12-07-2009, 07:45 PM
USA have shown enough at the confeds cup that they will beat Algeria, Everko :lol:

the confed cup doesn't matter at all. the u.s. team is what we call "bieder" in germany, don't know how to translate that (and the online dictionary doesn't get it right), which is basically something like "uninspired" on the pitch. they play like a poor man's germany, completely uninspired, working football instead of playing it. tactically they might have the edge here, but on a good day algeria is able to outplay them.

Stensland
12-07-2009, 07:52 PM
I've a hunch England will win.

naw, not this time. they would have a shot if they'd hired klinsmann for example. england need to be freed from all the tactical constraints, that's when they could ride the wave of enthusiasm til the happy end. capello is just like eriksson though, handcuffing them, tying them into his tactical corset.

that might work vs. hapless nobodies like slovenia because of the team's sheer quality, but taking away everything english about england won't do them any good against the big dogs. why desperately try to copy italy anyways when a) you know it's just a bad replica destined to fall apart at some point and b) you know you're curbing the team and stripping it off its actual (hidden) strengths? i never got why they chose capello. again, klinsmann would've been the way to go. england needs fun on the pitch, no more tactics. emphasizing theoretical tactics have failed them time and time again over the last decades.

this time it won't even be the quarterfinals as they'll be up against us in the round of 16, sorry. :D

Jōris
12-07-2009, 08:19 PM
naw, not this time. they would have a shot if they'd hired klinsmann for example. england need to be freed from all the tactical constraints, that's when they could ride the wave of enthusiasm til the happy end. capello is just like eriksson though, handcuffing them, tying them into his tactical corset.

that might work vs. hapless nobodies like slovenia because of the team's sheer quality, but taking away everything english about england won't do them any good against the big dogs. why desperately try to copy italy anyways when a) you know it's just a bad replica destined to fall apart at some point and b) you know you're curbing the team and stripping it off its actual (hidden) strengths? i never got why they chose capello. again, klinsmann would've been the way to go. england needs fun on the pitch, no more tactics. emphasizing theoretical tactics have failed them time and time again over the last decades.

this time it won't even be the quarterfinals as they'll be up against us in the round of 16, sorry. :D

That's all theory, Klinsmann couldn't win with der manchaft on home soil. Forget the overanalysising, it's simply a question of staying positive and they can.

Stensland
12-07-2009, 08:28 PM
and klinsmann's bad at "staying positive"? he's the master of that particular art. :) in contrast to capello (talk about "overanalysing football"...) klinsi is the embodiment of positive emotion and an ever-bright mindset.

anyways, obviously it's down to luck/fate/serendipity/younameit in the later stages of world cup. who knows what would have happened if italy hadn't scored two minutes before the final whistle?

Jōris
12-07-2009, 08:42 PM
and klinsmann's bad at "staying positive"? he's the master of that particular art. :) in contrast to capello (talk about "overanalysing football"...) klinsi is the embodiment of positive emotion and an ever-bright mindset.

anyways, obviously it's down to luck/fate/serendipity/younameit in the later stages of world cup. who knows what would have happened if italy hadn't scored two minutes before the final whistle?

The idea of positive thinking is to reject reality and come up with who knows hypotheticals? My hunch is as good as your theory. The possible quarter final match, der mannschaft is bound to run out of luck at some point. ;)

Stensland
12-07-2009, 08:49 PM
ger-eng in the quarterfinals is impossible, if i remember the brackets correctly. it's either the round of 16 or both will need to reach the finals to face off.

Jōris
12-07-2009, 09:01 PM
ger-eng in the quarterfinals is impossible, if i remember the brackets correctly. it's either the round of 16 or both will need to reach the finals to face off.

You have a point here, I meant round of 16.

Garson007
12-07-2009, 09:03 PM
ger-eng in the quarterfinals is impossible, if i remember the brackets correctly. it's either the round of 16 or both will need to reach the finals to face off.
That is correct. It's also for this reason that England could possibly have one of the easiest draws imaginable after the group stages.

zerocool_
12-07-2009, 09:40 PM
a: france will easily advance, mexico will probably edge out uruguay. no chance for south africa. they might get a draw vs. uruguay though as the south americans are vastly overrated. did anyone watch their encounters with costa rica? good lord.

b: diego's men at the top with one slaughtering that makes them the hottest team in town (like a 6:1 drubbing vs. korea), greece advancing as well, nigeria third.

c: england through with 9 points and something like 7-0 goals. surprisingly algeria takes the second spot, toppling the u.s. in the final game.

d: serbia unfortunately plays the way it can for a change and beats us handily, leaves the group stage with 9 points. we're coming in second but australia gives us a run for our money.

e: europe all the way: the dutch and the danish advance.

f: what a joke this group is. even italy's benchwarmers would rule here. italy one, slovakia edging out paraguay.

g: brazil takes this one astonishingly easily, drogba and his bunch come in second. portugal out and north korea getting blasted in every match, ending up with a tally like 0:12 goals.

h: for some reason i see honduras taking the second spot after spain.

mark my words. :) ;)


Hehe, i hope it will happend, like you said we finally play like we can :)

ClaudiuS
12-07-2009, 10:40 PM
Interesting prediction, but there are some things that I just can't think they are sooo possible. :p

b: diego's men at the top with one slaughtering that makes them the hottest team in town (like a 6:1 drubbing vs. korea)

Have you seen how Argentina plays? Ecuador beat them, Bolivia beat them 6-1, they hardly got the win against PERÚ in Buenos Aires with a goal by Palermo, they have no tactics, the defense is rubbish, they have good defenders but there's no order there, just players standing around the field. Messi has to do everythings on it's own, and even if he ever does anything important when he plays for Argentina in the last games, because in Argentina there isn't a Iniesta or a Xavi who knows how to deliver the ball to Lionel Messi in order to set the wheels for the attack, in Argentina that doesn't exist.

Argentina will pass the group, but with 2-1, 1-0, 2-0 at most. But not a slaughtering ffs :lol:

c: england through with 9 points and something like 7-0 goals. surprisingly algeria takes the second spot, toppling the u.s. in the final game.

Well, I don't know Algeria much, so maybe this can be possible.

f: what a joke this group is. even italy's benchwarmers would rule here. italy one, slovakia edging out paraguay.

No way! Slovakia better than Paraguay? That's a joke really. Chile playing with the "Team B" owned Slovakia in a recent friendly match played in Slovakia.

The Slovaks are an average european team that had luck because they had shittier opponents in the group phase (Poland was dreadful), but there's no way that they can beat Paraguay.

g: brazil takes this one astonishingly easily, drogba and his bunch come in second. portugal out and north korea getting blasted in every match, ending up with a tally like 0:12 goals.

North Korea will score 2 goals. :p But yep, I see Brazil and Ivory Coast reaching the 2nd round.

h: for some reason i see honduras taking the second spot after spain.

mark my words. :) ;)

Nah, I hope Chile takes the 2nd spot, they are not a mug team, finished 2nd in the South American stage, beat Argentina (the ones you said that they would slaughter everybody in their group) Paraguay, etc. Honduras was almost out of the WC but they scored a goal in the last minutes of the match against Costa Rica. Switzerland is the one I worry about most than Honduras. Also Chile played against Honduras once in the U-20 WC in 2005 in the Netherlands I think...Chile won 7-1. :p

But I will mark your words, definetly.

Stensland
12-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Have you seen how Argentina plays?

i don't consider the qualification games to be of any importance. argentina have a hilariously talented squad this time (better than 06 btw), they'll probably be up and running once the real competition starts. that being said, i do think it would be a good move to install an actual coach. maradona could do the klinsmann thing while a tactically well-educated guy in the background runs the daily business.


No way! Slovakia better than Paraguay? That's a joke really.

granted, i went on a bit of a limb there. ;) but still, paraguay is such a crap team i wouldn't be surprised if they go home very early. i'm sticking to my prediction.

Nah, I hope Chile takes the 2nd spot, they are not a mug team, finished 2nd in the South American stage...

like i said, i don't even know why i feel honduras might take the 2nd spot. just a gut feeling i guess. now that we're on it: what are your countrymen's strengths and weaknesses? what can we expect? that vidal guy has been making quite an impact at bayer leverkusen, but apart from him and matias fernandez i don't know anyone.

ClaudiuS
12-07-2009, 11:17 PM
Okay enough talking and predicting :p

World Cups always bring a few surprises, for ex. How many guys predicted that France would lose the opening match against the debutants of Senegal. Or that Argentina would go out in the group stage in 2002.

Or that Turkey would reach a 3rd spot in that World Cup. :tape:

Action Jackson
12-08-2009, 01:23 PM
USA have shown enough at the confeds cup that they will beat Algeria, Everko :lol:

If Algeria score 2 goals, then they will have done well.

bokehlicious
12-08-2009, 01:41 PM
Group A: 1. France 2. Uruguay 3. Mexico 4. RSA

Group B: 1. Argentina 2. Nigeria 3. Greece 4. South Korea

Group C: 1. England 2. USA 3. Slovenia 4. Algeria

Group D: 1. Serbia 2. Ghana 3. Germany 4. Australia

Group E: 1. Netherlands 2. Cameroon 3. Denmark 4. Japan

Group F: 1. Italy 2. Slovakia 3. Paraguay 4. NZ

Group G: 1. Brazil 2. Portugal 3. Ivory Coast 4. North Korea

Group H: 1.Switzerland :p 2. Spain 3. Chile 4. Honduras

Start da Game
12-08-2009, 06:40 PM
hopefully france wins it, i like their football.......if not, then spain or brazil should win........

england will never win the fifa world cup again, never.......they have too many choking cells in their blood.......

Everko
12-08-2009, 07:45 PM
hopefully france wins it, i like their football.......if not, then spain or brazil should win........

england will never win the fifa world cup again, never.......they have too many choking cells in their blood.......

haha :worship:. very true

I thnk the winner will be Brazil

scarecrows
12-08-2009, 08:34 PM
North Korea :lol:

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/kim-jong-il-bans-world-cup-coverage-unless-north-korea-win_100279912.html

Garson007
12-08-2009, 09:31 PM
North Korea :lol:

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/kim-jong-il-bans-world-cup-coverage-unless-north-korea-win_100279912.html
Kim Jong-il likes his people to know as little as possible of the world outside Korea; he's a big tinfoil hat type, but he has his reasons.

Action Jackson
12-09-2009, 12:53 AM
England still go on about 1966, they needed a blind linesman to help them there.

Byrd
12-09-2009, 01:00 AM
England has this on lock :cool:

Action Jackson
12-09-2009, 01:01 AM
This Byrd is a funny man.

Byrd
12-09-2009, 01:09 AM
This Byrd is a funny man.

England 3-1 USA
England 4-0 Slovenia
England 7-0 Algeria :boxing:
England 3-2 Ghana
England 2-0 France
England 4-1 Brazil :tennis:
England 3-0 Spain :sport:

:rocker2:

You heard it here first ;)

Action Jackson
12-09-2009, 01:23 AM
Duly noted Byrd, have the post saved. I am still trying to find odds of those Portuguese pretenders not getting out of their group.

Jimnik
12-09-2009, 03:46 AM
North Korea :lol:

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/kim-jong-il-bans-world-cup-coverage-unless-north-korea-win_100279912.html
Better yet, in this modern age they should edit the footage and report victories over Brazil and Portugal. With Kaka and Ronaldo getting completely outclassed by North Korean pace and power.


I am still trying to find odds of those Portuguese pretenders not getting out of their group.
You're better off finding the odds for Cote d'Ivoire.

Action Jackson
12-09-2009, 03:48 AM
Cote d'Ivoire, I am backing to make it through, maybe some clown on Betfair will take some bait.

Arkulari
12-09-2009, 04:05 AM
Group A:
1. France
2. Mexico
3. Uruguay
4. South Africa

Group B:
1. Nigeria
2. Argentina
3. Greece
4. South Korea

Group C:
1. England
2. USA
3. Slovenia
4. Algeria

Group D:
1. Germany
2. Serbia
3. Ghana
4. Australia

Group E:
1. Netherlands
2. Cameroon
3. Denmark
4. Japan

Group F:
1. Italy
2. Paraguay
3. Slovakia
4. New Zealand

Group G:
1. Brazil
2. Ivory Coast
3. Portugal
4. North Korea

Group H:
1. Spain
2. Chile
3. Switzerland
4. Honduras

ryan23
12-09-2009, 06:34 PM
Come back to me, when Ronaldo does something in big games.

LOL

ryan23
12-09-2009, 06:36 PM
We played a friendly against England in September at Wembley and lost 2-1.

Rooney did this:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2j32ruu.jpg

You'd think he'd at least get booked for that, right? Well not quite, the ref thought it's a penalty for England. :retard: It was the same ref that didn't see Henry's hand ball. :o

That was an awfull challenge, i remember it well, the ref saw it to, only thing that helped Rooney was that it was a friendly, the ref wanted to keep the flow of the match, offcourse he should of been red carded

ryan23
12-09-2009, 06:37 PM
Considering the position of the draw, England is best placed, imho.

Definetly, will be Gerrard,Lampards,Terry's last world cup, its now or never for those guys

ryan23
12-09-2009, 06:39 PM
England still go on about 1966, they needed a blind linesman to help them there.

Boring, come up with a new line :D

when did your country win it?

ryan23
12-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Cote d'Ivoire, I am backing to make it through, maybe some clown on Betfair will take some bait.

You seem to be getting the African nations cup mixed up with the world cup, no African team is capable of winning a world cup, sure the English based players like Essian for Ghana are class but they havent quality all through the team, its either Brazil,Spain or England for next years world cup

Action Jackson
12-09-2009, 06:43 PM
You seem to be getting the African nations cup mixed up with the world cup, no African team is capable of winning a world cup, sure the English based players like Essian for Ghana are class but they havent quality all through the team, its either Brazil,Spain or England for next years world cup

I said make the 2nd round, not win it, there are clear differences.

Jōris
12-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Brazil, Italy, Germany, Spain are objective favourites (imo) and I'm sticking with England as the main outsider.

Garson007
12-09-2009, 09:48 PM
Italy will again play the negative shit that won them the last WC. Despicable football.

Jōris
12-09-2009, 09:57 PM
Italy will again play the negative shit that won them the last WC. Despicable football.

They won the last WC. Everything else is details.

Henry Chinaski
12-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Italy brought 6 forwards to the last world cup and they all scored.

they weren't negative at all. sure, they didn't exactly play total football but they were attacking by the avergae standards of international football and certainly no more negative than brazil in 94 or France in 98 o even brazil in 2002

rocketassist
12-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Italy will again play the negative shit that won them the last WC. Despicable football.

Go and watch their semi final with Germany again and come back.

Garson007
12-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Go and watch their semi final with Germany again and come back.
Germany should have won that game. :shrug:

Byrd
12-10-2009, 01:38 AM
Apart from taking a shit on Australia, the Italians were ok, still the Argentines should of won, that was until they found out they were favourites and decided to play like the S****horpe reserves.

Action Jackson
12-10-2009, 02:03 AM
Argies shit themselves in that semi and the Italians weren't overtly negative in Germany 2006.

Start da Game
12-10-2009, 08:25 AM
Italy will again play the negative shit that won them the last WC. Despicable football.

i am not a big football follower but even i could figure out that italians played boring shit last world cup.......i don't know if they have been employing negative tactics since ages but in the last world cup, their main tactic was defending everything for 70, 80 mins with only 1 player in the other half of the ground and attacking all of a sudden in the last 10 mins........

actually, australia should have knocked them out in the 2nd round(pre-quarterfinals)........italy were offered a faulty penalty goal kick(or whatever it is) in the extra time.......the aussie defender challenged the italian forward correctly inside the 15 yards area but italians shouted "hand" and the umpire gave them a penalty shoot.......if not, the aussies would have burried them that night itself.......

if zidane had not lost his cool, france, who played beautifully through out, would have won that final.......

Start da Game
12-10-2009, 08:29 AM
haha :worship:. very true

I thnk the winner will be Brazil

england are such clowns, in the 2002 edition they had brazil with 1-0 lead by half time and referee gave a red card to one brazil player.......brazil were left with 10 players and just 40 minutes and despite that england crapped all over themselves and gifted the match 2-1.......i think it was in the quarterfinal.......

Action Jackson
12-10-2009, 08:34 AM
I am not an Italian fan, but they were far from negative by Italian standards in that last World Cup. Basically it's the classic apply the stereotype because it has to be true and can be no difference.

Brazil were not any more positive when they won in 2002, but they haven't played jogo bonito for years.

Machiavelli
12-10-2009, 08:42 AM
I am not an Italian fan, but they were far from negative by Italian standards in that last World Cup. Basically it's the classic apply the stereotype because it has to be true and can be no difference.

Brazil were not any more positive when they won in 2002, but they haven't played jogo bonito for years.

Agreed, Dunga as a defensive mdifield player does not allow his team to play joga bonito;

Spain is the fave for me, amazing football, never count out the Italians and Germans, Brazil is up there, England (saw them twice versus Croatia) is way overrated by the brittish media, coaches will read their game like an open book,talented squads like Holland and Argentina will shit their pants under pressure, African nations(Ivory Coast,Ghana,Nigeria) don't have the discipline that is needed; of course there will be surprises(like Turkey, South Korea in the past, maybe USA or Australia), we shall see

Action Jackson
12-10-2009, 08:54 AM
Agreed, Dunga as a defensive mdifield player does not allow his team to play joga bonito;

Spain is the fave for me, amazing football, never count out the Italians and Germans, Brazil is up there, England (saw them twice versus Croatia) is way overrated by the brittish media, coaches will read their game like an open book,talented squads like Holland and Argentina will shit their pants under pressure, African nations(Ivory Coast,Ghana,Nigeria) don't have the discipline that is needed; of course there will be surprises(like Turkey, South Korea in the past, maybe USA or Australia), we shall see

Brazil weren't that great under Parreira, but they still had enough quality. Yes, I do remember Dunga as a player, his teams play the same away as Lazaroni who was the coach in 1990. Lots of hard running and pressing, and these gyes are excellent on the counter.

Germany are a tournament team, not that great this time, but always very solid. Spain need to get over the World Cup failures. Torres and Villa are a fine combo, they got a very good group.

I remember the rumour of Hiddink coaching the Argies, that would be much better for them. They have a lot of ability, but their joke of a manager has made them blow their odds out a bit. There will be a surprise team for sure and a couple of flops.

Of course Engerland are overrated.

Garson007
12-10-2009, 11:49 AM
if zidane had not lost his cool, france, who played beautifully through out, would have won that final.......
France would always have lost the penalty shootouts with that joke of a keeper.

ryan23
12-10-2009, 01:52 PM
I said make the 2nd round, not win it, there are clear differences.

Fair enough :D

ryan23
12-10-2009, 01:53 PM
england are such clowns, in the 2002 edition they had brazil with 1-0 lead by half time and referee gave a red card to one brazil player.......brazil were left with 10 players and just 40 minutes and despite that england crapped all over themselves and gifted the match 2-1.......i think it was in the quarterfinal.......

Yes the famous free kick where Seaman got lobbed

scarecrows
12-10-2009, 02:15 PM
I am not an Italian fan, but they were far from negative by Italian standards in that last World Cup. Basically it's the classic apply the stereotype because it has to be true and can be no difference.



people know jackshit about football and they talk up their arses

Italy - Ghana 2-0, solid match against a solid team. No need to do more than 1 goal per half
Italy - USA 1-1, nervous match, 3 red cards and many yellows. Definitely not the best match to watch
Italy - Czech republic 2-0 - a draw would have been enough, yet they scored 2. Czech team playing in 10. Last ever goal for the legend Inzaghi in azzurri jersey

Italy - Australia 1-0 - Italy playing in 10 because of referee's mistake in giving red card to Materazzi. Australia with 1 player more not even getting close to scoring. Penalty gifted to Italy. Had it gone to penalties Italy would have won anyway.
Italy - Ukraine 3-0 for the ultradefensive team
Italy - Germany 2-0 Wonderful match from both teams albeit the lack of goals in regular time. The negative football of Italy made them attack to the last minute trying to win it.
Italy - France 1-1 (5-3) - nervous match as finals usually are, not much between teams. Generous penalty given to France. Title for the Lippi boys :woohoo:

ClaudiuS
12-10-2009, 02:37 PM
Yes the famous free kick where Seaman got lobbed

Ronaldinho :D