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Federer is the most well-coordinated athlete in world history

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 06:32 AM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

Arkulari
11-19-2009, 06:51 AM
see this:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/08/31/sports/tennis/20090831-roger-graphic.html?ref=sports

Bobby
11-19-2009, 06:57 AM
John Daly is my chioce.

2003
11-19-2009, 07:00 AM
Thats one of the reasons I love him. Hes just a joy to watch. Even when he loses. :)

CyBorg
11-19-2009, 08:05 AM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

So, you were born yesterday?

Mimi
11-19-2009, 08:12 AM
are you Kingfederer ;)?

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 08:29 AM
So, you were born yesterday?

Why??????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

paseo
11-19-2009, 08:37 AM
see this:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/08/31/sports/tennis/20090831-roger-graphic.html?ref=sports

Nice info :)

Julio
11-19-2009, 08:41 AM
What about Jimmy White ???!!! :haha:

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 08:48 AM
I think most people would put Ali and Jordan (and maybe Pelé or Maradona) ahead of Federer, but I'm saying Federer :yeah:

Goldenoldie
11-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Have a look at the career of C.B. Fry - cricket, soccer, rugby and athletics

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 09:28 AM
Have a look at the career of C.B. Fry - cricket, soccer, rugby and athletics

I haven't seen CB ever :haha:

kengyin
11-19-2009, 09:44 AM
federer for sure

Roddickominator
11-19-2009, 10:04 AM
I'd say that more than half of the NBA and NFL are better athletes than Federer....and obviously guys like Muhammad Ali as well.

As far as being the "most well-coordinated"....i'd say most professional boxers are just as coordinated, but you have an argument for Federer there seeing as how tennis requires a good balance of coordination everywhere from physical to hand-and-eye.

Lalalovesong
11-19-2009, 10:12 AM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

Yes Federer is class! BUT he's not the only one!
I mean there are alot atlethes who are as talented (or even more) as Mr. Federer.

So no ;)

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 10:19 AM
I'd say that more than half of the NBA and NFL are better athletes than Federer....and obviously guys like Muhammad Ali as well.

As far as being the "most well-coordinated"....i'd say most professional boxers are just as coordinated, but you have an argument for Federer there seeing as how tennis requires a good balance of coordination everywhere from physical to hand-and-eye.

Yepperlicious if it was about athleticism I'd say most of the NBA is more athletic than Federer, and most of many of the track and field events would feature more athleticism, and many other sports....

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 10:30 AM
I'd say that more than half of the NBA and NFL are better athletes than Federer....

I guess OP was referring to "clean" sportsmen... :angel: ;)

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 10:33 AM
I mean there are alot atlethes who are as talented (or even more) as Mr. Federer.

So no ;)

Can you give examples of more talented athletes? Since there's a lot of them you shouldn't struggle... :scratch:

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 10:35 AM
I guess Hingis is a good example, she is the most coordinated female tennis player of all-time (her balance, timing, footwork, everything about her is perfectly coordinated), but nowhere near as athletic as many of the tennis player both of all-time and today.

bhathiya9999
11-19-2009, 11:00 AM
I think it's Rafael nadal

oranges
11-19-2009, 11:02 AM
Can you give examples of more talented athletes? Since there's a lot of them you shouldn't struggle... :scratch:

Just one? How about a guy who starts celebrating 10 meters before the finish line and still sets a new world record. What a prick, stealing the spotlight like that for himself when we all know there's only one worthy man in existence :mad:

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 11:05 AM
Just one? How about a guy who starts celebrating 10 meters before the finish line and still sets a new world record. What a prick, stealing the spotlight like that for himself when we all know there's only one worthy man in existence :mad:

He's surely neither more talented nor more well-coordinated than peak Fed :shrug: :hug:

oranges
11-19-2009, 11:08 AM
He's surely neither more talented nor more well-coordinated than peak Fed :shrug: :hug:

Stop sending me those creepy hugs, I expect some sexual harassment in rep or PM to follow.

Of course he isn't, how could he be when he's the top in a sport that relies on just that exclusively.

partygirl
11-19-2009, 11:25 AM
...please add best hair to that list.:)
Ask Agassi , it matters.

Byrd
11-19-2009, 12:12 PM
Sachin Tendulker

Bernard Black
11-19-2009, 12:35 PM
Jahangir Khan.

Sophocles
11-19-2009, 12:39 PM
Of active athletes, Floyd Mayweather has a shout.

Commander Data
11-19-2009, 12:57 PM
Stop sending me those creepy hugs, I expect some sexual harassment in rep or PM to follow.



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tennisace
11-19-2009, 01:48 PM
I think Nalby at his best is the most well-coordinated tennis player

abhinav_shaan
11-19-2009, 01:52 PM
try david belle.. look it up on youtube

Bilbo
11-19-2009, 02:06 PM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

ever heard of Michael Jordan?

thrust
11-19-2009, 02:08 PM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

Ken Rosewall- That is why he was able to play so well for so long. Ken was not a greater athelete than Roger but had very similar qualities. Roger just happens to be considerably larger which gives him the advantage over Ken. Of course, we are talking tennis players here not basketball etc..

Everko
11-19-2009, 02:09 PM
Usain Bolt, freak of nature










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Vida
11-19-2009, 02:30 PM
tyson had a better hand-to-head coordination. :shrug:

Dini
11-19-2009, 02:32 PM
tyson had a better hand-to-head coordination. :shrug:

Better teeth to ear coordination, too. :scared:

Vida
11-19-2009, 02:36 PM
Better teeth to ear coordination, too. :scared:

that too. though fed hasnt been tested in that area. I mean no one has dared mess with his haircut.

Dini
11-19-2009, 02:43 PM
that too. though fed hasnt been tested in that area. I mean no one has dared mess with his haircut.

Apart from himself (http://bbs.tennis.com.cn/uploadFiles/2009-11/17_10625196_2.jpg). :spit:

Lalalovesong
11-19-2009, 03:01 PM
Can you give examples of more talented athletes? Since there's a lot of them you shouldn't struggle... :scratch:

mmm, other legends maybe??

Raul gonzalez blanco?
and iniesta
and messi these days (still so many years younger than federer)

Valentino rossi? ( 9 worldtitles)
Zinedine Zidane?
Woods? :unsure:

and so on..

There are so many! ( plus plus the legends in the past, you can't compare them )

Dini
11-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Zidane, yes. :inlove: Amazing foot coordination. :worship:

Bibberz
11-19-2009, 03:19 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Jan-Ove_Waldner_Olympia-2004.jpg

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 03:23 PM
mmm, other legends maybe??

Raul gonzalez blanco?
and iniesta
and messi these days (still so many years younger than federer)

Valentino rossi? ( 9 worldtitles)
Zinedine Zidane?
Woods? :unsure:

and so on..

There are so many! ( plus plus the legends in the past, you can't compare them )

Raul and Iniesta bigger athletes than Fed... Okay :haha: oh, wait, you come from Barcelona... :o

Byrd
11-19-2009, 03:26 PM
Federer showcased his awesome hand-eye coordination at this years Australian open final :lol:

Snowwy
11-19-2009, 03:30 PM
Someone already said MJ, but also Hakeem the Dream, ridiculous footwork

RafitoGoat
11-19-2009, 03:31 PM
ever heard of Michael Jordan?
yep
I think most people would put Ali and Jordan (and maybe Pelé or Maradona) ahead of Federer, but I'm saying Federer :yeah:

Vida
11-19-2009, 04:10 PM
raul and iniesta better athletes than fed? yeah right. those are great minds and technicians but overall they are no match for the federrere. out of football players, Id rate zidane and ronaldo as on par with fed (REAL ronaldo, not this clown from portugal). even more so, cause as we've seen fed has a gaping hole in his game (backhand) and he can be overpowered, while those two were really really top of tops.:D

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 04:12 PM
raul and iniesta better athletes than fed? yeah right. those are great minds and technicians but overall they are no match for the federrere. out of football players, Id rate zidane and ronaldo as on par with fed (REAL ronaldo, not this clown from portugal). even more so, cause as we've seen fed has a gaping hole in his game (backhand) and he can be overpowered, while those two were really really top of tops.:D

As if peak Fed has often been overpowered :rolleyes: and I guess both Zidane and Ronaldo never had days off... :o

Dini
11-19-2009, 04:12 PM
raul and iniesta better athletes than fed? yeah right. those are great minds and technicians but overall they are no match for the federrere. out of football players, Id rate zidane and ronaldo as on par with fed (REAL ronaldo, not this clown from portugal). even more so, cause as we've seen fed has a gaping hole in his game (backhand) and he can be overpowered, while those two were really really top of tops.:D

The first thing you think about when you see Ronaldo is donuts and hamburgers. :lol:

Vida
11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
As if peak Fed has often been overpowered :rolleyes: and I guess both Zidane and Ronaldo never had days off... :o

fed wasnt overpowered by blake and ljubicic, but was by nalby, safin, djoker, rafa... but lets not go there, Im tired of owning your ass.

The first thing you think about when you see Ronaldo is donuts and hamburgers. :lol:

ha bloody ha. when ronaldo was 'peak ronaldo' - and in the toughest of competition there ever was in football, whn he played for inter, and previously for barca - there was no match for him. he really was the bes, most complete attacker on planet. simply a total package.. speed, technique, ACCELERATION! and rest. really, this is a non-topic.:shrug:

bokehlicious
11-19-2009, 04:23 PM
fed wasnt overpowered by blake and ljubicic, but was by nalby, safin, djoker, rafa...


:secret: I think you kinda misunderstand the meaning of getting overpowered :o :hug:


Im tired of owning your ass.


:lol: :hug:

Dini
11-19-2009, 04:25 PM
ha bloody ha. when ronaldo was 'peak ronaldo' - and in the toughest of competition there ever was in football, whn he played for inter, and previously for barca - there was no match for him. he really was the bes, most complete attacker on planet. simply a total package.. speed, technique, ACCELERATION! and rest. really, this is a non-topic.:shrug:

He was still just about the biggest guy football has seen. :shrug: Just sayin.

Vida
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM
He was still just about the biggest guy football has seen. :shrug: Just sayin.

biggest? no he wasnt the biggest, there were lots of trees there. stam, than that czech bloke koler to name a few. but thats not the point, but the well-coordination? fed is cream of the crop, but Im just saying among footballers there were two perhaps even 'more-well-coordinated'.

Dini
11-19-2009, 04:40 PM
biggest? no he wasnt the biggest, there were lots of trees there. stam, than that czech bloke koler to name a few. but thats not the point, but the well-coordination? fed is cream of the crop, but Im just saying among footballers there were two perhaps even 'more-well-coordinated'.

Fair enough... I don't know why I had this vision that Ronaldo was seen as the Fat Dave of football appearance wise though. :scratch:

Anyway, I fully agree with your choice of Zidane.

Vida
11-19-2009, 04:48 PM
Fair enough... I don't know why I had this vision that Ronaldo was seen as the Fat Dave of football appearance wise though. :scratch:

Anyway, I fully agree with your choice of Zidane.

well yeah, once he got injured, there was not much to do but eat and party... eh, tough life heh?

zidane was to me really top of tops, just total class in every sense. only true play-maker in modern, fast, industrial football. one who holds all the strings of one team. juventus with him (when lippi was in charge, when they played 3 consecutive CL finals, won one I think) was like a computer video game, like a living organism. I didnt root for them at the time, perhaps because they were always winning :lol: but it was a great time, and zidane was the man responsible.

MatchFederer
11-19-2009, 04:49 PM
I think Federer should definitely be in the discussion. We could look at the most coordinated athletes in a generation or by decade (of which you would be slightly moronic to say Federer isn't one of) and then have a big discussion regarding all the names put in the pot.

Federer is definitely special in this regard.

Sophocles
11-19-2009, 05:01 PM
Among footballers you'd have to have Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, & George Best. Donald Bradman obviously had extraordinary hand-eye co-ordination.

Clay Death
11-19-2009, 05:07 PM
what the hell is this nonsense? another episode of blind worshipping of Fed or what?

also how about comparing apples with apples. why are you wasting your time comparing Fed to soccer stars who play a specialized team sport with other soccer players on the field. which other team sport will it be next? go ahead and start comparing him to Lebron James now.

at the very least, at least try to compare him to athletes from other individual sports if you simply must get caught up in blind worshipping.

**he is a tennis player. compare him to other tennis players. that is the only valid comparison that is worth anything.

Dini
11-19-2009, 05:11 PM
Who's worshipping? :confused: I think it's developed into a good discussion about general coordination across all sports.

Out of the ones mentioned in this thread I agree with Zidane (it's not like apples and oranges if you've seen how he plays the ball) and Waldner's genius.

MalwareDie
11-19-2009, 05:26 PM
GOATPARERA is trying to convince everybody that he's a dupicate account.

chammer44
11-19-2009, 05:33 PM
No.

The answer is Dave Winfield, who, coming out of college, was drafted by teams in three different professional sports: football, basketball, baseball.

r2473
11-19-2009, 05:43 PM
Federer is the most well-coordinated athlete in world history

He is a nice dresser.

chammer44
11-19-2009, 05:48 PM
He is a nice dresser.

Indeed. He has the best colour coordination in history.

Bobby
11-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Amazing. Rarely you see this serious discussion of a topic so incredibly absurd. John Daly all the way!

Clay Death
11-19-2009, 06:49 PM
Amazing. Rarely you see this serious discussion of a topic so incredibly absurd. John Daly all the way!


affirmative. i am just waiting for these people to start comparing him to some world class swimmer next. or even an alligator wrestler who has never lost a fight.

moon language
11-19-2009, 07:26 PM
what the hell is this nonsense? another episode of blind worshipping of Fed or what?

also how about comparing apples with apples. why are you wasting your time comparing Fed to soccer stars who play a specialized team sport with other soccer players on the field. which other team sport will it be next? go ahead and start comparing him to Lebron James now.

at the very least, at least try to compare him to athletes from other individual sports if you simply must get caught up in blind worshipping.

**he is a tennis player. compare him to other tennis players. that is the only valid comparison that is worth anything.

The thread is talking about coordination. Whether the sport is individual or team based has no bearing on an evaluation of an athlete's coordination. A better objection to the discussion would involve the fact that there is no objective measure for coordination.

Zirconek
11-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Most well-coordinated athlete is currently Ádám Marosi from Hungary, ranked #1 in modern pentathlon :cool:

Clay Death
11-19-2009, 07:59 PM
Most well-coordinated athlete is currently Ádám Marosi from Hungary, ranked #1 in modern pentathlon :cool:


affirmative. and there you have it folks.





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Clay Death
11-19-2009, 08:02 PM
The thread is talking about coordination. Whether the sport is individual or team based has no bearing on an evaluation of an athlete's coordination. A better objection to the discussion would involve the fact that there is no objective measure for coordination.


well actually it does make a difference. a massive difference to be exact.

some sports just do not require that much coordination.

once again, dont compare an athlete from an individual sport to one from a team sport where tasks are fewer and more specialized.

you people must just be bored to death or something. a thread like this a total waste of time.

electronicmusic
11-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Yes, Federer surely is one of the best.

Among footballers: Dennis Bergkamp and Zidane.

barbadosan
11-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Among footballers you'd have to have Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, & George Best. Donald Bradman obviously had extraordinary hand-eye co-ordination.

If you include Bradman then Sir Gary Sobers is a cert... some of the most incredible slip catches, batting and bowling fast medium and spin... each one demanding co-ordination and athleticism of the highest order.

r2473
11-19-2009, 08:13 PM
I don't know guys. There are some porn stars that are pretty damn coordinated if you ask me.

RafitoGoat
11-20-2009, 12:04 AM
If you include Bradman then Sir Gary Sobers is a cert... some of the most incredible slip catches, batting and bowling fast medium and spin... each one demanding co-ordination and athleticism of the highest order.

I agree, Bradman the batting GOAT, but Sobers the cricket GOAT :yeah:

MrChopin
11-20-2009, 12:55 AM
I think racket sports, on the whole, have stuff like soccer, NFL, and NBA beat. Players in the latter sports don't have to coordinate the movement of their entire bodies with the movement of a foreign object, and especially in the case of the NFL and NBA, it's the hands, which are probably more naturally coordinated than the feet.

Someone mentioned squash, which is arguable, but I think tennis incorporates more running full sprint while still applying similar hand eye and probably more full-body, though I find the geometry of squash a lot more difficult. Stuff like pentathlon is one-at-a-time... by definition not coordinating very much. Polo is probably one sport that takes more coordination than tennis.

Either way, it's no doubt Fed is near the top. Watch '05 clips of him moving on the court, then add in the hand-eye timing and control.

VolandriFan
11-20-2009, 12:58 AM
Anastasiya Yermakova is the most coordinated.

abhinav_shaan
11-20-2009, 04:13 AM
its really funny to compare people from different sports..
and even funnier to me that the specific skills that are being talked about are the hand-eye coordination , footwork etc... and yet martial arts / parkour / kung-fu etc hasnt even entered the discussion...

really thats being too limited in ur view..
ever seen a parkour video.. i did post david belle's name before..
if u want to see extreme coordination in an athlete (non-team) then go watch his speedairman video on youtube

Clay Death
11-20-2009, 04:16 AM
I don't know guys. There are some porn stars that are pretty damn coordinated if you ask me.


i would think that a snake charmer in the far east that deal with cobras may have to have the best possible coordination.

fast_clay
11-20-2009, 05:45 AM
i think his colour co-ordination needs to come into question more often...

HNCS
11-20-2009, 05:47 AM
maybe we should extend the definition of well-coordinated, if you add in his person life, his management of his sponsors, his team for his tennis conditioning, and the management of his finances, add all of those things up in addition to his coordination of athleticism, then yes no one is more coordinated.

fast_clay
11-20-2009, 06:52 AM
squeaky clean...

Zirconek
11-20-2009, 09:08 AM
its really funny to compare people from different sports..
and even funnier to me that the specific skills that are being talked about are the hand-eye coordination , footwork etc... and yet martial arts / parkour / kung-fu etc hasnt even entered the discussion...

really thats being too limited in ur view..
ever seen a parkour video.. i did post david belle's name before..
if u want to see extreme coordination in an athlete (non-team) then go watch his speedairman video on youtube

I love le parkour :worship:

Commander Data
11-20-2009, 10:19 AM
I cannot think of anyone in any sport with more coordination, footwork, balance, hand-eye, all greater than any athlete we've seen.

Fed has one of the best, why not just leave it with that? To argue he has THE best is just silly :banghead:. How would you objectively argue that Fed has better balance then Michael Jordan for example. :drink:


This thread is blind :bowdown:

Beat
11-20-2009, 10:27 AM
see this:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/08/31/sports/tennis/20090831-roger-graphic.html?ref=sports

oh, interesting, thanks for that.

Bernard Black
11-20-2009, 10:38 AM
I changed my mind - has to be one of the Taylors...Phil or Dennis.

leng jai
11-20-2009, 01:02 PM
I'm surprised Fedtards can still get it up.

bokehlicious
11-20-2009, 01:05 PM
IMO Haas is a more talented athlete, just unlucky he got screwed by numerous injuries throughout his career :awww: :(

paseo
11-20-2009, 02:10 PM
IMO Haas is a more talented athlete, just unlucky he got screwed by numerous injuries throughout his career :awww: :(

No.

GhostUnholy
11-20-2009, 04:24 PM
I'm pretty sure P. Antonius was just making fun of leng jai, way to miss the sarcasm.

Anyhow, this is an impossible discussion. You can never say who's best, but I can think of several athletes in ice hockey, gymnastics, basketball, badminton, and the various martial arts that compare with Federer in terms of mindblowing athleticism and coordination.

Lalalovesong
11-20-2009, 10:13 PM
Fed has one of the best, why not just leave it with that? To argue he has THE best is just silly :banghead:. How would you objectively argue that Fed has better balance then Michael Jordan for example. :drink:


This thread is blind :bowdown:

he he finally a fedfan who's objective.
Thanks, I totally agree with you.

Howard
11-20-2009, 11:35 PM
John Daly is my chioce.Agreed. Anyone can execute sober. I'd like to see Federer play world class tennis drunk.

djb84xi
11-20-2009, 11:50 PM
Yes Federer is class! BUT he's not the only one!
I mean there are alot atlethes who are as talented (or even more) as Mr. Federer.

So no ;)

I agree. While Roger is one amazing athlete, there are many who are just as well-coordinated or better than he is. He might be the best in tennis, but that's about it. :cool:

GhostUnholy
11-21-2009, 12:42 AM
Dude sorry to be a dick, but what's up with posting in all kinds of random fonts? It's a lot easier to read if people stick to normal text.

swisht4u
11-21-2009, 01:56 AM
Babe Ruth.

Everyone knows about his hitting, amazing.

He could have made the HOF in pitching also.
Had a lifetime 2.277 ERA, 16th best alltime.
Win/loss of .671 10th best alltime.
Two totally different skill sets.

RafitoGoat
11-21-2009, 05:25 AM
I agree Babe Ruth :yeah: