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Do you believe in players losing on purpose?

ForehandWinner
11-19-2009, 05:07 AM
Just so they can meet the ATP requirement. And exit early to get ready for the tournament they want to win. Or any other reason for that matter.

n8
11-19-2009, 05:16 AM
Although no expert on the subject, I'm sure it happens. Whether it is for betting purposes (match fixing), to better prepare for other events, or simply to receive their participation/ 1st round losers payment.

Arkulari
11-19-2009, 05:40 AM
yes, the prime example of it is Bercy ;)

ForehandWinner
11-19-2009, 01:15 PM
yes, the prime example of it is Bercy ;)

Wow....really? Who did?

Byrd
11-19-2009, 01:16 PM
Wow....really? Who did?

Seriously, you can't be that naive...:o

Burrow
11-19-2009, 01:26 PM
Do I believe that this sort of thing happens?

Well obviously :retard:

ryan23
11-19-2009, 01:34 PM
100percent yes

Nathaliia
11-19-2009, 01:36 PM
Of course it happens and it's even hard to blame them. I think only the people who put all the effort in their every day at work/school can do this. Not many people like that, eh?
Tennis is job like every other.

Everko
11-19-2009, 01:57 PM
Shouldn't but it does








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Snowwy
11-19-2009, 02:04 PM
I dont know if they lose on purpose, but they put in a little less effort on purpose and the game is so competitive that once the effort goes down, it results in a loss

bjurra
11-19-2009, 03:17 PM
Do I believe in some people not filling out their tax forms correctly? Using the bus lane because they are in a hurry? Logging on to social media like facebook during work hours?

tennishero
11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
tanking yes.

Sunset of Age
11-19-2009, 05:09 PM
It's not a matter of 'believing', it happens for sure. Tanks happen regularly, and even if a bad loss isn't truly a tank job, no player is at his best 100% of the time.
Everyone has a bad day at the office once in a while.

Corey Feldman
11-19-2009, 05:29 PM
watch Almagro v Nadal last week and the question is answered.

tennisfan856
11-19-2009, 05:50 PM
I like how the majority of the responses in this thread is from gamblers who got bitten in the ass by some tankers.

Sunset of Age
11-19-2009, 05:56 PM
I like how the majority of the responses in this thread is from gamblers who got bitten in the ass by some tankers.

Who do you have in mind?
Come on there, everyone knows tanks do happen.

tennisfan856
11-19-2009, 05:57 PM
Yes they do, I just find it funny the first ones to pounce on the question are the ones who have been snakebitten.

Sunset of Age
11-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Yes they do, I just find it funny the first ones to pounce on the question are the ones who have been snakebitten.

That remains to be seen. Being a (very non-serious) gambler myself, I've had quite a few very tasty wins on players pulling the expected tankjob. :p

KarlyM
11-20-2009, 01:18 AM
The only reason I can think of that tanking would be acceptable to me is if a player came on court wanting to win, but everything goes wrong - losing badly, and the player is frustrated and just wants to get the f--k out there. :lol: That happens and it's understandable.
The ones who come into a tournament knowing they will tank their first match before it starts are a waste of draw space. :(

Garson007
11-20-2009, 01:35 AM
Nobody likes losing, even as professionals. However I think that a lot of players don't give their all, because it's not to their advantage to do so. So forcing the loss, not quite, but not giving it their all, sure - happens a lot.

michellej
11-20-2009, 01:43 AM
Losing on purpose? Sure...when Safin was fined for not putting in an effort in the AO 2000 he was ticked off with being a pro player and couldn't be bothered playing that day. No money involved...just Safin...fined $6ooo USD...no excuses fromn him..just didn;t feel like playing


But Marat is one of a kind.

krystlel
11-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Probably not to the point of trying really hard to lose. I would imagine that on the odd occasion, it's more energy-sapping and annoying to try to lose a match, than to win one.

But there have got to be some days where they just don't feel like it, where a part of them wants to lose so they can take a break and everything gets sluggish. Seems completely human to me.

Macbrother
11-20-2009, 01:52 AM
Borg was good at doing this and they were doing it long before him.

latso
11-20-2009, 08:22 AM
Ask Wozniacki... :D

bjurra
11-20-2009, 11:54 AM
Probably not to the point of trying really hard to lose. I would imagine that on the odd occasion, it's more energy-sapping and annoying to try to lose a match, than to win one.

Huh?? :confused:

It didnt look very energy-sapping to me when Llodra lost 4 and 4 to Robredo.

bjurra
11-20-2009, 11:56 AM
Nobody likes losing, even as professionals. However I think that a lot of players don't give their all, because it's not to their advantage to do so. So forcing the loss, not quite, but not giving it their all, sure - happens a lot.

Players not looking very pumped up happens in every MM tournament. I would not equal that to tanking.

bjurra
11-20-2009, 11:58 AM
The ones who come into a tournament knowing they will tank their first match before it starts are a waste of draw space. :(

I agree. I think there should be fines for players who show up at a tournament just to fool around for two sets and then pick up the prize money.

Wimbledon is a good example. Players showing up the day before their first match, not even bothering to practice an hour on grass before the match.

Garson007
11-20-2009, 12:44 PM
Players not looking very pumped up happens in every MM tournament. I would not equal that to tanking.
That's why I voted "no". ;)

ForehandWinner
11-20-2009, 12:49 PM
May be injuries are reasons too. As long as it has to do with the individual player and that there is no third party involved, it is not too bad I think.

Action Jackson
11-20-2009, 12:50 PM
Of course.

Commander Data
11-20-2009, 01:05 PM
I don't believe a top players loses on purpose. Maybe he loses because he doesn't give all he could, I believe that. He is not willing to run down every ball or something, sure. But that is not the same as going on court thinking: "oh baby, my goal for today is to lose."

r2473
11-20-2009, 08:45 PM
No, I'm sure that never happens :rolleyes:

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leng jai
11-20-2009, 10:30 PM
I don't believe in losing at all. Everyone is a winner!

ForehandWinner
11-21-2009, 01:01 AM
May be injuries are reasons too. As long as it has to do with the individual player and that there is no third party involved, it is not too bad I think.

I mean come on...

ForehandWinner
11-27-2009, 11:53 PM
Boy... just in time. TWO VIVID back to back games.

Noleta
11-27-2009, 11:55 PM
I don't believe a top players loses on purpose. Maybe he loses because he doesn't give all he could, I believe that. He is not willing to run down every ball or something, sure. But that is not the same as going on court thinking: "oh baby, my goal for today is to lose."

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