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Tennis Ukraine - future estimation for Dolgopolov???

Nathaliia
11-15-2009, 09:09 PM
As a matter of fact, Ukraine soon might become a significant point on the ATP tennis map of the world. The guys are crazy, talented and... relatively young. They are very nice, but charismatic boys that tennis needs! Let's check how they're doing in the rankings and what they have achieved this season.

58. Sergiy Stakhovsky (1986) - ATP title: St. Petersburg, ATP QF: Doha, Zagreb, Moscow, Challenger final: Mons, Challenger semifinal: Trnava

120. Illya Marchenko (1987) - ATP semifinal: Moscow, Challenger title: Istanbul, Challenger finals: Penza, Astana, Challenger semifinals: Fergana, Mons

136. Oleksandr Dolgopolov Jr. (1988) - Challenger titles: Orbetello, Como, Trnava, Challenger semifinals: Poznan, San Marino, Tashkent

187. Ivan Sergeyev (1988) - Challenger title: Almaty, Challenger final: Karshi

They all have progressed and in 2010 maybe we'll see four Ukrainian players in the top 100?

Burrow
11-15-2009, 09:12 PM
Stakhovsky and Marchenko aren't good enough to win big, dunno the other two. But I doubt that one of these guys will end up in the top 50 next season, their only hope is Stakhovsky.

Spadea TT
11-15-2009, 09:20 PM
Dolgopolov is good player...

Nathaliia
11-15-2009, 09:25 PM
Tennis is about the late blooming these days, so I assume players born in 1988 could have not exposed their real abilities yet. Anyway, I checked the rank progress for the mentioned guys. Since Stakhovsky came back after a surgery he's slowly living up to the expectations. The rest is slowly joining. Dolgopolov's career also was halted with the elbow problems. This guy is a true talent IMO.

Stakhovsky - 2007: 262, 2008: 74, 2009: 58 (with career high 54 two weeks ago)

Marchenko - 2007: 510, 2008: 222, 2009: 120

Dolgopolov - 2008: 309, 2009: 136

Sergeyev - 2006: 768, 2007: 302, 2008: 374, 2009: 187

JMG
11-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Marchenko has improved imo. He isn't as bad as he was against GBR in Davis Cup.

TMJordan
11-15-2009, 10:01 PM
:yeah:

out_here_grindin
11-15-2009, 10:01 PM
They do have some promise.

Hellraiser
11-15-2009, 10:17 PM
Stachowsky and only Stachowsky can play well here, no Dolgo, Marchenko or this fourth guy.

KaiserT
11-15-2009, 10:59 PM
Worrying that Dologpolov has already chosen the path of a fixer.

Didn't stop Davy though I guess :lol:

Montego
11-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Sorry, Nathi, but I saw 3/4 out of them (all except Sergeev) and they are mugs. Stakhovsky and Dolgopolov have the potential to spend some weeks within Top50. Marchenko maybe will enter Top100 one day and should be happy with this.

Nathaliia
11-15-2009, 11:13 PM
I suppose it's isn't bad for a country to have 4 players in the top 100 at the same time so I hope it will happen :o

Apart from Medvedev who was Russian and Davydenko who is Ukrainian but plays for Russia they were a blank place on the ATP map. And now this possibility... I just found it curious :) Serbia also appeared out of nowhere with Djoko, Troicki, Tipsa and Bozo...
but thanks for your thoughts.

Ilovetheblues_86
11-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Do anyone of them has a different game? For example: Zeballos ( a new top50) has good drop shots, Stakhovskyi has a good serve. They can add some value to top 100 maybe if they have, or perhaps only put Ukraine into DC.

Nathaliia
11-15-2009, 11:16 PM
Dolgo has great dropshots and some hilarious shots too when he reaches for the balls he barely can get - and mind he can still win a point :lol:

guille&tati4life
11-15-2009, 11:18 PM
Dolgo's a cool player to watch and I'd love to see him do well. Top 100? Yeah, could be done but I doubt he can make top 50. Hope he proves me wrong.

Totally off topic but Nathii, what do you make of Janowicz? I saw him and he looked excellent.

Nathaliia
11-15-2009, 11:19 PM
Dolgo's a cool player to watch and I'd love to see him do well. Top 100? Yeah, could be done but I doubt he can make top 50. Hope he proves me wrong.

Totally off topic but Nathii, what do you make of Janowicz? I saw him and he looked excellent.
I think that anyone would look excellent against Daniel Evans.

KaiserT
11-15-2009, 11:42 PM
Dolgo has great dropshots and some hilarious shots too when he reaches for the balls he barely can get - and mind he can still win a point :lol:

Nathii, does it not concern you that he is already fixing matches?

I am a Dolgo fan btw, have enjoyed watching him this year.

Horatio Caine
11-16-2009, 07:50 AM
Interesting topic, Nathi. :yeah:

I think we could see 3 Ukrainians into the top 100 next year, but not sure about the 4th...don't know enough about Sergeyev to be able to comment.

Stakhovsky has the ability to be a solid top 100 player, although I'm not sure how much better he could be...certainly, as far as rankings are concerned, he should have a realistic shot at top 50 in the first half of 2010, but I'm not sure that he could sustain that level.

I felt that Dolgopolov had some promise when I first saw him at the GBR/UKR tie in Odessa (2006?), and it is good to see him finally breaking through. He had good touch and feel for the ball...nice strokes. But I'm not sure how far into the top 100 he could go as I don't remember him having a big shot...and in today's game that is something you need.

Marchenko...very 'pushy' player when I saw him in that dreadful Davis Cup rubber against Goodall, and couldn't see him being better than top 100. Could add more weight of shot if he wants...has the frame to be able to do it imo. Otherwise, I don't see him taking many good scalps in the ATP events.

Hellraiser
11-16-2009, 09:59 AM
At the hardcourts indoors/outdoors Marchenko will be alifehe will earn some points to balance in the rank, no doubt about Stacho who is #1 in Ukraine he will make it nice and clean, but Dolgo he is done when the season is around AO, Wimby or USO for me he can play only on clay and he isn't for a such a talent, many ppl overrated this guy about Sergeyev the same option like Marchenko eraning points and balance in ranks.

CooCooCachoo
11-16-2009, 10:07 PM
I don't know anything about Sergeyev and have not been impressed by his results, but he could progress a bit next year. Don't see him doing anything groundbreaking based on his performance so far though.

Fully expect Dolgopolov to enter the Top 100 next year. Marchenko might. Haven't seen him play, but he's really impressed me with his results this year.

I am a fan of Stakhovsky, but I think that solidity can hardly be expected from his side.

shotgun
11-16-2009, 10:22 PM
Sergeyev is a cool guy.

marquez
11-16-2009, 10:24 PM
but Dolgo he is done when the season is around AO, Wimby or USO for me he can play only on clay and he isn't for a such a talent, many ppl overrated this guy about Sergeyev the same option like Marchenko eraning points and balance in ranks.

olek has a good serve and a huge bh
he had his best results on clay but I really dont see why he shouldn't be able to get his results on hard/grass
wonder if he can play 5-setters with his elbow though :scratch:
quite sure that he reaches the top 100 in 2010 if hes injury-free

marquez
11-16-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't know anything about Sergeyev and have not been impressed by his results, but he could progress a bit next year. Don't see him doing anything groundbreaking based on his performance so far though.


same here
expected more from sergejev this year
dont see him in the same category as the other 3(so far)

Burrow
11-16-2009, 11:25 PM
Interesting topic, Nathi. :yeah:

I think we could see 3 Ukrainians into the top 100 next year, but not sure about the 4th...don't know enough about Sergeyev to be able to comment.

Stakhovsky has the ability to be a solid top 100 player, although I'm not sure how much better he could be...certainly, as far as rankings are concerned, he should have a realistic shot at top 50 in the first half of 2010, but I'm not sure that he could sustain that level.

I felt that Dolgopolov had some promise when I first saw him at the GBR/UKR tie in Odessa (2006?), and it is good to see him finally breaking through. He had good touch and feel for the ball...nice strokes. But I'm not sure how far into the top 100 he could go as I don't remember him having a big shot...and in today's game that is something you need.

Marchenko...very 'pushy' player when I saw him in that dreadful Davis Cup rubber against Goodall, and couldn't see him being better than top 100. Could add more weight of shot if he wants...has the frame to be able to do it imo. Otherwise, I don't see him taking many good scalps in the ATP events.

really

dan_the_man1983
11-17-2009, 10:16 AM
Best Ukranian plays for Russia haha ;)

Zirconek
11-17-2009, 02:06 PM
Best Ukranian plays for Russia haha ;)

and used to live in Germany. :p
Stakhovsky lives in Slovakia BTW.

JMG
11-17-2009, 02:43 PM
Isn't Sergeyev a grinder/pusher? At least he looked like this against Kedriouk in Kazakhstan.

Nathaliia
11-18-2009, 11:09 AM
I saw Sergeyev in the futures and he looked like a ballbasher to me, but he was a kid back then and the opponents weren't too good I suppose.

Maybe this one is really the least prospect but I included him because he also belongs to the top 200. Thanks for your opinions guys.

wlodar
11-18-2009, 12:08 PM
Sergeyev is more offensive counter-puncher.

Baghdatis#1
11-19-2009, 08:39 PM
Interesting topic ;)
I don't think they will be like the current Serbs, but they will be better than they are now. I think Stakhovsky has a good chance of being in the top 40 soon, and Marchenko in the top 75, and Doglopov in the top 100, but I don't know about Sergeyev :unsure:

wlodar
11-19-2009, 09:36 PM
Sergeyev is top 200 player, only solid, without main weapon. He isnt' son of tennis god ;)

Baghdatis#1
01-19-2010, 10:15 PM
BUMP! :p
Marchenko and Sergeyev in AO R2 :hatoff:

marquez
01-19-2010, 10:40 PM
really surprised about this sergejev run
out of nowhere for me

wlodar
01-19-2010, 10:43 PM
My post about Sergeyev from the other topic:

Sergeyev is an offensive counter-puncher, good defender and hardworker.

His main strengths are movement and solid baseline play. Forehand is his better wing (he runs around his beckhand oftenly), using it he can change directions, change the rhythm and occasionally hits some winners. His backhand is more defensive with irregular depth. He has a good, slice 1st serve - not massive in terms of power (average speed about 180km/h) but is effective and good placement. He’s got solid passingshoots.

His weakness is attackable 2nd serve - passive, and often too short.
While making mistakes, he gets angry, screams, and throws his racket.

Nadie
01-20-2010, 12:50 PM
BUMP! :p
Marchenko and Sergeyev in AO R2 :hatoff:

nice suprise :worship:

Kolya
01-20-2010, 12:55 PM
I like Stakhovsky. Has a nice overall game IMO.

Too bad he met Tsonga in the 1st round.

thegreendestiny
01-20-2010, 03:00 PM
The best of Ukraine's players will soon represent Russia as they get to the top.

Jacques_Ukraine
01-29-2010, 08:54 PM
IMO: The main problem of Sergeev is coach absence. He is selfmade player. For instance, the Ukrainian federation organized a month training session for him before AO. Some consultancy + advice to change racket. You could see results and progress in AO.
Dolgo, Jr has father Dolgo, Sr :) He talented player, but lazy and self-seeking ... I think he could reach even top-70 if he will be healthy.
Marchenko shows the most good promise. Last year he changed city, club and coach. So I expect he will be in top-100 this year or even more...

Jacques_Ukraine
01-29-2010, 11:50 PM
After meeting in the 2nd AO round

Nikolay Davydenko: Marchenko surprised me with his crosses
The match against players of Nikolay Davydenko’s level is always a great challenge for those, who have only got to the edge of the top-100. So Nikolay’s opinion about Marchenko’s game is very valuable. Nikolay has told the following:

- Nikolay, you didn’t know anything about the opponent before the match against Marchenko. What plan for the game did you have?
- I didn’t know his game and my first target was to start fighting and to stay concentrated. In the first round I felt very inert. Today everything went much better. I tried to find my game from the baseline game quickly. The opponent helped me a little bit, hitting from the baseline he made me thinking about what to do and how to make troubles for him.
- How do you estimate your opponent’s game in the second round of the AO? What are his perspectives? Did he surprise you with something?
- Marchenko played quite good, he played good all the elements, hit down the lines. If he continues playing such game, his results will continue growing rapidly. Now I’m not surprised that he has reached the semifinal of the Kremlin Cup last year. His level in today’s match was very high. About game elements, I have to note, that Marchenko plays very good crosses from both backhand and a forehand.
There are only some players in the tour who are able to hit crosses from both sides. Maybe, Djokovic, Del Potro… I often play at the baseline, knowing that the opponent will play to the center of the court and I’ll have an opportunity to attack. There were moments, when Marchenko used his crosses, playing deep, unexpectedly for me. Sometimes I had no choice and play conveniently for him, gave him opportunities to attack. If he continues playing that way, he’ll become very dangerous opponent.

Source: http://sapronov-tennis.org/?p=press&type=interview&id=932

abraxas21
01-30-2010, 12:22 AM
How do Ukranians feel about Kolya being a Russian? Do they tend to dislike him a little bit at least?

Jacques_Ukraine
02-03-2010, 12:36 PM
Second win of Marchenko in Zagreb. Next week he will be in top-100!
Follow him on https://twitter.com/imarchello :)

Jacques_Ukraine
02-05-2010, 11:45 PM
Exclusive Q&A with Oleksandr Dolgopolov Jr. (http://tennisconnected.com/home/2010/02/05/exclusive-qa-with-oleksandr-dolgopolov-jr/)

Jacques_Ukraine
02-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Illya Marchenko is No.86 since February 08, 2010! Good luck, Marchello! :)

TMJordan
02-09-2010, 03:49 AM
Hopefully Stakhovsky takes out Djokovic. :yeah:

Jacques_Ukraine
02-22-2010, 07:44 AM
Since February 22, 2010 Marchenko is No. 84 and Dolgopolov Jr. is No. 101

oranges
02-22-2010, 08:03 AM
Regarding first post and their results, Stakhovsky also has Zagreb title, crazy run that one, beating two home favorites along the way. Played qualies and IIRC entered as lucky loser

BaBush
02-22-2010, 08:09 AM
good years for ukraine comming even in the wta they have the Bond sisters too.

Jacques_Ukraine
03-01-2010, 08:40 AM
Dolgopolov is No. 81 and Marchenko is No. 84 since March 1, 2010! Congratulations!
+ Stakhovsky is No. 70. This is the first time when we have 3 Ukrainians in the top 100!!!

Jacques_Ukraine
03-24-2010, 08:07 AM
A shout out to OLEKSANDR DOLGOPOLOV JR. He's up to No. 69 in the world this week after starting the year No. 131.

Nathaliia
03-24-2010, 02:34 PM
Exactly. People who doubted before the season soon will have to take their words back... Still he is getting very little recognition. I think he needs to make some appearances on the main tour. The current ranking allows him to do that. Maybe Casablanca ATP or so.

marquez
03-24-2010, 03:56 PM
Exactly. People who doubted before the season soon will have to take their words back... Still he is getting very little recognition. I think he needs to make some appearances on the main tour. The current ranking allows him to do that. Maybe Casablanca ATP or so.

nathi back :worship:

Jacques_Ukraine
03-26-2010, 09:49 AM
This week Illya Marchenko (UKR) is the 6th in the world by POINTS WON RETURNING 1ST SERVE & 10th by RETURN GAMES WON! See http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/MatchFacts.aspx

Jacques_Ukraine
03-26-2010, 09:54 AM
Exactly. People who doubted before the season soon will have to take their words back... Still he is getting very little recognition. I think he needs to make some appearances on the main tour. The current ranking allows him to do that. Maybe Casablanca ATP or so.

His nearest plans are Casablanca, Monte-Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Madrid and RG. You could already find his name in the entry lists of the first four tournaments...

Jacques_Ukraine
03-26-2010, 08:14 PM
Recent Q&A of Dolgopolov http://tennisconnected.com/home/2010/03/01/exclusive-qa-with-oleksandr-dolgopolov-jr/

Jacques_Ukraine
04-03-2010, 08:48 PM
Next week Stakhovsky will be No. 66 (+6 up from previous No. 72), Dolgopolov 70 (-1) and Marchenko 77 (+8). I guess Illya Marchenko will be in the top 50 to the year end!
See predictions on http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=155513

Nathaliia
04-03-2010, 09:06 PM
So 3 guys in top 80 and still flying under the radar. Oleksandr will play a qualifier in Casablanca; all ten of his fans on MTF hope it won't be Jarkko Nieminen. Koubek can be obviously tricky too, and even Gil without a serve and without backhand... sigh... Welcome on the ATP main tour.

Mateya
04-03-2010, 09:24 PM
Oh yes, definetly much better than "tennis Slovakia". :o :tape:

Marchenko beat PHM this week so he must be very good. Could break into top 50...and all three of them, but especialy Dolgopolov and Marchenko. :)
Stakhovsky has a more mug destiny.

Jacques_Ukraine
04-07-2010, 05:34 PM
Oh yes, definetly much better than "tennis Slovakia". :o :tape:

Marchenko beat PHM this week so he must be very good. Could break into top 50...and all three of them, but especialy Dolgopolov and Marchenko. :)
Stakhovsky has a more mug destiny.

The things in Slovakia kingdom are not so bad )
Klizan def Dolgopolov 4-6 6-1 7-5 !!

Jacques_Ukraine
04-27-2010, 09:40 AM
For this week Stakhovsky is No.66, Dolgopolov is No.68 and Marchenko is No.79

Filo V.
04-27-2010, 12:58 PM
Stakhovsky has had an average season, not bad, not great. I think he has the potential to be top 40 or 50 consistently, but I doubt any more.

Dolgo has been great in challengers, and mediocre in ATP. He has great potential---on clay. I'm not sure where his career is headed. I could see him top 20-25 consistently, and I can see him being a clay court journeyman on the fringes of the top 100.

Marchenko is a good player, but I have to see more of him to be sure about his future. One thing for certain of him, he is going to have to prove he can consistently win when not playing on an indoor hard surface.

Nathaliia
05-28-2010, 11:58 PM
Dolgopolov :clap2:

Filo V.
05-29-2010, 12:07 AM
I still say top 20-25 consistently for Dolgo. With a high of around 12. Maybe 14-22 consistently. I don't think he can go further than that. But he has really come around in ATPs of late, I'm very impressed. He's matured on court quite a lot.

n8
05-29-2010, 12:38 AM
He's still the youngest in the top 100:

56 - Alexander Dolgopolov (UKR) 21 Years, 06 Months, 22 Days
12 - Marin Cilic (CRO) 21 Years, 08 Months, 01 Days
6 - Juan Martin del Potro (ARG) 21 Years, 08 Months, 06 Days
50 - Thiemo de Bakker (NED) 21 Years, 08 Months, 10 Days
28 - Ernests Gulbis (LAT) 21 Years, 08 Months, 29 Days
96 - Pere Riba (ESP) 22 Years, 01 Months, 22 Days
73 - Evgueni Korolev (RUS) 22 Years, 03 Months, 15 Days
29 - Thomaz Bellucci (BRA) 22 Years, 04 Months, 29 Days
58 - Santiago Giraldo (COL) 22 Years, 06 Months, 02 Days
81 - Lukas Lacko (SVK) 22 Years, 06 Months, 26 Days

andy neyer
05-29-2010, 01:45 AM
This Dolgo has weird looking shots and an even weirder serve but I kind of liked them the one time I've seen him play.

He will probably get to top 50 after RG. Good for him.

Guy Haines
05-29-2010, 02:55 AM
At a youthful looking 21, Dolgopolov is way too young to put a cap on how far he'll progress. He probably hasn't stopped growing for a start. He's not that built. Maybe he'll stay that way, but maybe not, and who knows if it would help his game.

What we do know is that his progress up the rankings has been steady.

Anyone checking out the end of the year rankings in 09 could see he was the youngest player who was going to break through this year, as he was one of the fastest and youngest rising players in the top 200, if not fastest and youngest.

But he's still outdoing expectations a bit, and at a major, which is the right place to do it.

Deivid23
05-29-2010, 08:39 AM
Dolgopolov :clap2:

He´s still a dirty fixer anyway. Some guys out there are drooling at the prospect of cashing big on a mug at high odds who will crush him 62 62 soon enough

Jacques_Ukraine
06-20-2010, 01:46 PM
Since June 21 the following players among top-100 will have the new best rankings in their tennis career:
No. 43 Dolgopolov Jr, Oleksandr (UKR) 996
No. 47 Stakhovsky, Sergey (UKR) 935
No. 54 Giraldo, Santiago (COL) 823
No. 74 Marchenko, Illya (UKR) 672
No. 78 Pere, Riba (ESP) 654
Nice to see 3 Ukrainians among 5 players with the best rankings

raahaat7
06-20-2010, 02:14 PM
Nathi hitting the bulls eye on three of the four shots. Proud of u Nathi. Btw, how far wil Marsel Ilhan go.

chewbacca74
06-20-2010, 02:32 PM
Since June 21 the following players among top-100 will have the new best rankings in their tennis career:
No. 43 Dolgopolov Jr, Oleksandr (UKR) 996
No. 47 Stakhovsky, Sergey (UKR) 935
No. 54 Giraldo, Santiago (COL) 823
No. 74 Marchenko, Illya (UKR) 672
No. 78 Pere, Riba (ESP) 654
Nice to see 3 Ukrainians among 5 players with the best rankings

None of those youngsters played Wimbledon 2009. It means they have no ATP points to defend vs 2009... If they win a couple of matches, they are going to climb even higher in the rankings...

KaiserT
06-20-2010, 05:37 PM
Nathi hitting the bulls eye on three of the four shots. Proud of u Nathi. Btw, how far wil Marsel Ilhan go.

Not very far, he has no weapons...... top 100 is as high as it gets for him.

Jacques_Ukraine
06-22-2010, 03:32 PM
None of those youngsters played Wimbledon 2009. It means they have no ATP points to defend vs 2009... If they win a couple of matches, they are going to climb even higher in the rankings...

Marchenko and Dolgopolov are in the 2nd round :worship:, Stakhovsky is defeated by Querrey :sad:

Helevorn
06-22-2010, 04:23 PM
dolgo's gonna do well even here

Nathaliia
06-22-2010, 04:38 PM
Stakhovsky retired because of an injury :sad:

Two other guys did well :yeah:

Filo V.
06-22-2010, 04:49 PM
Do you guys think Marchenko has what it takes to be a consistent top 50 guy? I'm not too sold on him, personally.

Also, while Dolgo has been one of my favorite players for a while now, I still think he's a bit overrated now. I don't see him as a top 10 player. He is definitely the best of the 3 Ukrainians, however.

Too bad about Sergiy today, but congrats on his 3rd ATP title in Holland last week. When he's on, he has a beautiful and effective game to watch.

Jacques_Ukraine
06-22-2010, 06:15 PM
Do you guys think Marchenko has what it takes to be a consistent top 50 guy? I'm not too sold on him, personally.

Also, while Dolgo has been one of my favorite players for a while now, I still think he's a bit overrated now. I don't see him as a top 10 player. He is definitely the best of the 3 Ukrainians, however.

Too bad about Sergiy today, but congrats on his 3rd ATP title in Holland last week. When he's on, he has a beautiful and effective game to watch.

Marchenko is great character and hard worker. His progress will be slower but steady. IMHO, finally he will be higher than Dolgo and Stakh. Dolgo is more talented player but bad personality. Stakh is a good man and player of his mood

Riosreigned
06-22-2010, 07:42 PM
Top 10 or better. Dolgo is now at #43 and may go higher into 30s after Wimbledon. Found this good read about his progress ...

http://tennis-prose.com/articles/i-see-something-in-alexsandr-dolgopolov-jr/

Guy Haines
06-23-2010, 10:18 AM
Marchenko is great character and hard worker. His progress will be slower but steady. IMHO, finally he will be higher than Dolgo and Stakh. Dolgo is more talented player but bad personality. Stakh is a good man and player of his mood

I know the fixer story/incident, but what specifically is bad about Dolgopolov's personality?

Jacques_Ukraine
08-05-2010, 04:35 PM
Washington-2010. Round 2. Marchenko def Gulbis 6-1, 1-0, ret'd

Sapeod
08-05-2010, 06:48 PM
Stakhovsky and Marchenko aren't good enough to win big, dunno the other two. But I doubt that one of these guys will end up in the top 50 next season, their only hope is Stakhovsky.
:haha:

Dolgopolov will reach the top twenty soon.
Stakhovsky and Marchenko still have to improve but they're going in the right direction.

Horatio Caine
08-05-2010, 07:38 PM
Interesting topic, Nathi. :yeah:

I think we could see 3 Ukrainians into the top 100 next year, but not sure about the 4th...don't know enough about Sergeyev to be able to comment.

Stakhovsky has the ability to be a solid top 100 player, although I'm not sure how much better he could be...certainly, as far as rankings are concerned, he should have a realistic shot at top 50 in the first half of 2010, but I'm not sure that he could sustain that level.

I felt that Dolgopolov had some promise when I first saw him at the GBR/UKR tie in Odessa (2006?), and it is good to see him finally breaking through. He had good touch and feel for the ball...nice strokes. But I'm not sure how far into the top 100 he could go as I don't remember him having a big shot...and in today's game that is something you need.

Marchenko...very 'pushy' player when I saw him in that dreadful Davis Cup rubber against Goodall, and couldn't see him being better than top 100. Could add more weight of shot if he wants...has the frame to be able to do it imo. Otherwise, I don't see him taking many good scalps in the ATP events.

Damn I'm good. :lol:

Except for the part about Dolgopolov not having a big shot. Saw some of his tennis at Wimbledon and he was able to hit with some pace considering his slight frame. :eek: ATP site lists him as 87kg but that doesn't seem right.

I'll revise my estimation for Dolgopolov. Has the talent for top 20 and higher. Hopefully he can work on getting a little stronger so he is less susceptible to injuries.


Not going to revise my estimations for Stakhovsky or Marchenko, though. I'm still not quite sure how Marchenko got this high tbh, but credit to him.


Sergeyev has just recorded a career-high ranking inside the top 150, so it looks like he is getting ready to join them. The only concern is that his ranking could be over-inflated...the majority of his wins seem to be against lower-ranked opposition (lower than #176).


I have still got an eye on Sergei Bubka...

Helevorn
08-05-2010, 08:39 PM
no, I think he's neither near of being 87 kg, he needs to make up some muscles and to train his body, and of course to train his mental strength

these are dolgopolov's first months in the ATP major circuit, so he needs to adapt and to train himself a lot, then he'll be able to enter the top-20 with no problems

Jacques_Ukraine
08-11-2010, 10:57 PM
Toronto R1: Dolgopolov def Petzschner 1-6 6-2 7-6(7-4)(http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=166663)
Toronto R2: Dolgopolov def Youzhny 1-6 7-6(7-4)7-5 (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=166723)

As a result, you could read the following (http://tennisconnected.com/home/2010/08/10/alarm-clocks-double-ds-and-a-little-off-the-rise/):

The Next Agassi?

Making my way to the outer reaches of the facility, I was eager to watch young Ukrainian Alexandr Dolgopolov. I’ve had the pleasure of interviewing Dolgopolov on a several occasions, but I’ve never seen him whack the ball in person. I caught a glimpse of the youngster warming up for the event with countryman Stakhovsky on Saturday, but his match against Philipp Petzscher today would be the first time I’ve seen him in match play.

Arriving at the contest at 4-all in third set, my previous thoughts of Dolgopolov were confirmed in 3D. His ultra talented array of shots had reminded me of a young Andre Agassi. There’s no question that Dolgopolov moves better than Agassi ever did, but his off-the-rise ability was very reminiscent of the former American player.

Dolgopolov’s low ball toss is extremely difficult to read, and his slice backhand loses gravity a touch faster than it’s supposed to.

Suffering from heat exhaustion, Dolgopolov made the clever tactical choice to approach the net and conserve any energy that he had left. Leading 6-4 in the final set tiebreak, Dolgopolov benefited from a final Petzschner double fault to advance to the second-round. Slicking his hair back while removing his socceresque headband, Dolgopolov was overlooked at the net by a handshake from Petzschner. Apparently (and this came from Dolgopolov’s agent), Petzschner was upset because he was under the impression that his opponent would retire before the match was competed.

Feeling slightly ill before taking the court, Dolgopolov discussed his opponent’s behavior after the match: “It’s his problem. I’m not angry about it. [It] happens.”

Spoken like a true veteran.

If Dolgopolov continues to improve and get fitter, then we could have another “Agassi-type” player on our hands.

For those of you who saw Dolgopolov’s match against Rafael Nadal at the Madrid Masters, you’re well-versed in what the youngster can do. For those you how haven’t seen Dolgopolov in person, or on TV, I can assure you that it will only be a matter of time.

Sapeod
08-11-2010, 11:07 PM
Alek is a great player, top 20 is ahead for certain.

Nathaliia
08-28-2010, 10:51 AM
This thread needs to be bumped sometimes :)

Stakhovsky is the guy who can keep low profile for the whole season and suddenly peak in one or two tournaments, funny player in this department :)

Marchenko's march kinda stopped for a change.

ApproachShot
08-28-2010, 10:57 AM
I've been thinking for some time now that Dolgopolov is a future top 10 player. That said, I still believe it will be a struggle for him to crack the top 5.

fran70
08-28-2010, 11:41 AM
Dolgopolov and Stakhovsky have the potential to be ranked in the top 20.

Jacques_Ukraine
10-06-2010, 02:34 PM
Two recent Q&A with Aleksandr Dolgopolov:

http://tennisconnected.com/home/2010/10/05/exclusive-qa-with-alexandr-dolgopolov/

http://tennis-prose.com/articles/biofile-with-alexsandr-dolgopolov-jr/

Topspindoctor
10-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Dolgopolov can become top 10 player for sure. He style is very fun to watch.

Filo V.
10-06-2010, 08:56 PM
Dolgo has some extreme talent, we are talking about world class ability. As he fills out a bit more and matures physically, he's going to be more powerful (and he's got decent power now), he already has some great timing on his shots, flash and explosiveness, and racquet head speed is a major plus for him. He's a natural athlete, and he has the raw natural finesse+power combination that you rarely see with most players.

With all of this said, I still don't know yet if he will be a top 10 player. I've said he wouldn't, to me he is one of those extreme talent players but more flash than substance. But if he puts everything together, he could definitely be a consistent #5-11 or so player.

Marchenko, I've seen him a few times now recently, he's not a consistent top 100 player. Nothing he does is any better or worse than any random player ranked #150. He's got a decent game, but that's about it. I think he'll be one of those guys who bounces between challengers and ATP's his entire career.

Ad Wim
10-06-2010, 09:03 PM
Dolgo has some kind of blood disease, why he can't perform on 100%. Therefore I don't think he will be the absolute top.

156mphserve
10-06-2010, 09:05 PM
Dolgopolov will reach a career high of #3 in May 2013:wavey:

bleu_cheese
10-06-2010, 10:16 PM
Dolgo has some kind of blood disease, why he can't perform on 100%. Therefore I don't think he will be the absolute top.

I still don't quite understand this. Is it something permanent and untreatable, or can medications help it on a temporary basis at least? Hopefully with good scheduling, he'll be able to acclimatise without problems.

borracho
10-06-2010, 10:40 PM
better be aware, them Kazakhs might buy him away.

Jacques_Ukraine
01-20-2011, 04:20 PM
Now, during the AO 2011, we could see a new benchmark for the Ukrainian tennis: for the first time TWO Ukrainians are in the 3rd round og the GS tournament!

Baghdatis#1
01-21-2011, 12:20 AM
So nice to see the rise of Ukraine :yeah:
Not too long ago they lost to Greece in Davis Cup :speakles:

On TF I created a similar thread about the Romanian women, and now there are two Romanian women in the third round of a slam, and neither one has ever made it that far :yeah:

Jacques_Ukraine
02-14-2011, 10:18 AM
Today, February 14, 2011 Dolgopolov reaches his best new ranking! He is No.29 officially!

Topspindoctor
02-14-2011, 10:26 AM
:yeah: Top 30.

Top 20 looks more and more possible by the end of the year, especially if he has solid clay season. He'll be seeded for RG as well :woohoo:

Pirao666
02-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Yeah, he'll probably end the year in the top 20, barring injuries. He has a very fun game.

Kezzi
03-05-2011, 08:36 PM
Anyone following their DC tie so far? I'm cheering against my country, because I like the Ukrainian team better :p But as a Stako fan that's not so surprising ;)

Jacques_Ukraine
03-06-2011, 12:04 PM
Anyone following their DC tie so far? I'm cheering against my country, because I like the Ukrainian team better :p But as a Stako fan that's not so surprising ;)

thread for DC match Ukraine vs Netherlands http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=178107

pica_pica
03-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Ukrainian guys are great to watch :yeah:
Great personalities, and creative tennis (especially Dolgo)!
Nice for the game :D

Kezzi
03-06-2011, 08:36 PM
thread for DC match Ukraine vs Netherlands http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=178107
Couldn't find it, so I just clicked the url you left in the Stako topic. :)
Thanks, even though it's too late now. :sad: