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Paris R2 Benneteau crashed Federer 3:6 7:6 6:4

batavlada
11-11-2009, 09:14 PM
Took chance over tired and weak Federer. Amazing victory for a guy that said he is exhausted.

MIMIC
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Wow :eek:

jonas
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
boring match. fed didn't show up. only gs that counts for him now. so obvious.

MIMIC
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
:haha: It's like a party in the stadium

River
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
That's right.

DONE AND DONE.

scarecrows
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
fed is finished

The Freak
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Benneteau played quite well, still a terrible loss for Federer though :lol:

jmsx521
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
The day of his life!

Nacho
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
:spit:

cmurray
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
holy.crap. :tape:

Federer playing like doody again.

Snoo Foo
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
fucking awesome :rocker2:


http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc179/SnooFoo828/emoticon/rogicry-1.png

Fiberlight1
11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Good tennis from Benneteau.. Federer not so much.

alter ego
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Great returning Roger...

cakedraw
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
not nice from Fed to tank the match on purpose, either you play or just don't go there

Arkulari
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Congratulations to Julien, who played an excellent match and deserves all credit :yeah:
Roger: why don't you stay at home and take care of the twins, your heart isn't really in the tennis court these days

Lee
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
:tape: don't know losing in 3 sets in best of 3 is being crashed/crushed these days :o

tangerine_dream
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Something about the Paris masters just doesn't agree with Roger.

lalaland
11-11-2009, 09:16 PM
:eek::eek::eek: well done Julien.

Clydey
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Benneteau. :lol:

You'd think he had won a major.

scarecrows
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
not nice from Fed to tank the match on purpose, either you play or just don't go there

they get fined if they dont go

Dini
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Amazing stuff from Julien. :hatoff: :bigclap:

Fed go find your forehand. :hug:

bluefork
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Final set giant, this Federer. :rolleyes:

madmax
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Fed once again clowning arround outside of slams...pathetic stuff from World's Nr.1, start caring some more champ, it's getting ridiculous:unsure:

Orka_n
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Fed played crap again. He didn't even seem to care. Sad to see. :/

tennizen
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Federer played too defensive but Benneteau played amazing well and held his nerve well.

Byrd
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Fed only cares about Paris when the tennis is played on clay.

Vaccine
11-11-2009, 09:17 PM
what the hell was that? was there an impostor playing Roger? but benneteau was great, solid and deserved to win it :yeah:

Midnight Ninja
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Today sucked.
That being said, Benneteau completely deserves the match. The aggressive player won and that is a good thing.

iriraz
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
I wonder what`s Federer`s record in this tourney.I know he missed a couple of years,and never reached the semis.

l_mac
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Good for the game.

cakedraw
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
they get fined if they dont go

pocket money

Sapeod
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Very poor from Federer, but great win for Benneteau.

Murray's draw much more open now :D

docking34
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
the best day in tennis ... november 11.

Topspin Forehand
11-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Fed lost to Benneteau? hahaaha

william_renshaw
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Benneteau was sensational, incredible serving display, well done him.

Federer is hopeless in deciding sets. doesn't he now have a losing record in deciding sets this year?

Bilbo
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
like i'm telling ya since a few weeks

will be y funny YEC in london with all players slumping

ChinoRios4Ever
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Fed only cares about GS nowadays :zzz:

deserved win for Benneteau and good for tennis :bigclap:

Nidhogg
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Ironic that Federer was responsible for slowing this surface down, which is now the reason he won't ever win this title. These days he would need it as fast as it was prior to the change, while he on the other hand would have stood a good chance on the current surface before he lost his consistency off the ground. :lol:

Aenea
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Wow Rogi out in rnd2 :eek:

What can I say Fed has other priorities these days

Congrats to Benny :hatoff:

batavlada
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Great day for tennis, especially french.

Arkulari
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
I think Roger couldn't skip Paris because he had already skipped Shanghai and will lose one of his best MS results, right?
for real, Benneteau deserves ALL credit, but Roger was not there except for one point or other :shrug:

dj_mercury
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Time to start changing the autumn schedule if he wants to have a chance to win again something after the last season grand slam. Loosing to Benneteau despite having a more than ok serve performance does speak really badly about his chances at the Masters.

theseth1119
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
I can't think of anyone less deserving of the win today than Julien Benneteau. I mean he's even less deserving than Chokovic and Murray were of their titles last week. I honestly think Benneteau is garbage and can't wait for Monfils to crush Benneteau tomorrow. Let's go Monfils.

River
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Good for the game.

x2

You wanna pull a Williams sister shit then gtfo Fed. Absolutely ridiculous how you don't give a shit about masters anymore. If you don't feel like playing don't play at all.

Julien was right to spank you.

Sunset of Age
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Very, very deserved victory for Julien Benneteau. Congrats and kudo's to him! :hatoff: :yeah:
Great serving, great aggressive playing, in all, fantastic job! :worship:

Rogerror Federror - eh, might I askugly, PUSHER SHIT game, after winning the first set, is going to bring you the match? :silly:
It didn't do so on numerous occasions already eh. So why continue on this stupid tactic? I don't get it. Are you :zzz: or what??? :o

Oh, and btw, don't forget to textmessage Rafa to congratulate him with regaining the YER #1, as that's what you've might given away right now. Brilliant.

Oh, let the folks come out who've been calling ME a Fedtard lately, please. I'd like to deal with 'em appropriately. :armed: :p :p :p

Voo de Mar
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
:eek: Benneteau :yeah:

And :lol: at his exaggerated reaction. Man, it's only 2nd round match :p

W!MBLEDON
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Good for the game.

can't say the same about nadull vs almugro, but it's hard to choose between a chronic choker and a moonballer

in any case does anyone even really care about this other than benneteau and the frenchies :shrug:

buddyholly
11-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Roger: why don't you stay at home and take care of the twins, your heart isn't really in the tennis court these days

Cos every time he says he wants to play with the twins Mirka rips her top off. That's why he's exhausted.

MIMIC
11-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Stats

Federer | Benneteau
Aces: 16 | 6
Double Faults: 0 | 2
1st Serve in %: 73 | 78
1st Serve pts won: 81 | 79
2nd Serve pts won: 50 | 60
Winners: 41 | 28
Unforced Errors: 26 | 19
Net Points won: 19/28 | 16/22
Break Points won: 1/7 | 1/7

KarlyM
11-11-2009, 09:22 PM
OMG! What the hell!!! :(

Nice job, Julien. :)

Sean
11-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Very poor from Federer, but great win for Benneteau.

Murray's draw much more open now :D

Fed would have been lucky to get 6 games from Murray or Potro. Fed is easy draw these days.

Puschkin
11-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Full credit to Julien, he played very well.

After Roland Garros 2009, I don't mind Roger losing, but I dislike this passive disinterested approach. :o

betowiec
11-11-2009, 09:23 PM
expected one

Snoo Foo
11-11-2009, 09:23 PM
they get fined if they dont go

poor roger, he has babies to feed now, can't afford such extravagance :awww:

out_here_grindin
11-11-2009, 09:23 PM
Nice upset result

timafi
11-11-2009, 09:23 PM
call it a damn season Roger and work on your forehand again
hell work on the serve and backhand too
Benneteau is utter shit so wtf is wrong with you losing to a punk like him.Watch he'll get utterly thumped like a maggot tomorrow:rolleyes: :mad:

maskedmuffin
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
What a day of tennis in paris. I would like to point out that while Nadal won by basically soft balling and floating the ball back to almagro, who was scared to take victory and snatched defeat from its jaws, we saw the antithesis of that matchup in the benneteau federer match.

Roger went for his shots, shanked a few, but benneteau CAME UP WITH THE GOODS.. read federer's serve beautifully.. attacked the net..and did not back down.

Undoubtedly half as long as the 3 hour nerves-athon, but n times as good in quality.

Great effort roger on your serves, but was beaten by a better man today.

I dont know what to say about the nadal-almagro match, where the better man just eased his foot of the gas pedal and the beated man resorted to smart, but ugly tennis, to wrestle victory from jaws of defeat. That match truly epitomized "winning ugly"


Between Murray and Nadal, we have 2 halves of the same type of game.

It will be truly sad when roger is no longer in the game, because it takes a beautiful game to beat his own beautiful game when he is playing at a supremely high level.

To beat nadal you normally have to bludgeon him to death like del potro and all 6 foot 5 of him can. (berdych too).

Onlyl davydenko can be unfazed by his moonballiness, and just out angle nadul.


Go Nikolai


PS: Safin was an amazing personality on the court over last 10 years..will be a shame to lose someone like him from game

tangerine_dream
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
:lol: Overreaction much? Julien cried and acted like he just won a grand slam and Roger just kind of shrugged and walked off the court. Now watch Benneteau lose in the next round. :p

Tom Paulman
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Cool, I hope Murray loses too :)

Surcouf
11-11-2009, 09:25 PM
Excellent, Julien!!!!

Il a joué avec le coeur d'un vrai champion. Sa plus belle victoire trčs certainement et devant son public. J'imagine sa joie.

Encore bravo. Monfils is next :)

out_here_grindin
11-11-2009, 09:25 PM
:lol: Overreaction much? Julien cried and acted like he just won a grand slam and Roger just kind of shrugged and walked off the court. Now watch Benneteau lose in the next round. :p

It's not everyday you get to beat the GOAT

Cloudygirl
11-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Didn't see match, tank? Or did the crowd fire up Benneteau

Byrd
11-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Give credit where it's due, Bennateau played well and deserved the win, contrary to the prick who sits 6 feet behind the baseline waiting for errors and relying on a clown to shit himself.

Arkulari
11-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Julien played very very well and Roger couldn't care less ;)

lazybear
11-11-2009, 09:29 PM
C'mon, it was a good match. Obviously Roger didn't play his best, but he didn't play bad either, he had something like 40 winners and 25 UE's, Benetteau had 28/18, or stg like that? Give the french some credit, he played one of the best matches of his life. Roger rest up for WTF, i think it will bring out the best from him with the new location and the huge crowd... It will be Grand Slam atmosphere, so i expect Roger doing well there. Julien, win this thing! Oh wait, i want Tsonga to win now. Tough luck JB.

sammy01
11-11-2009, 09:29 PM
fed doesn't care whats new

Bashak
11-11-2009, 09:30 PM
well deserved win for julien. considering he (very likely) has not beaten anybody in top 30 all year, the tears of joy are acceptable.

MIMIC
11-11-2009, 09:31 PM
That was kinda funny to see Benneteau fall to the ground like that like he just won the title or something. Shit...I would, too :lol:

SheepleBuster
11-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Federer should have been done with this year after the US Open. He gave that match away, lost at his home to Novak. He is losing steam faster than a punctured tire. Even though he plays so less than others still he is tired.

Oh well. I kind of expected Roger to lose to Murray or Del potro. Better to Benneteau.

Pixie
11-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Benneteau has now wins over Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Roddick, Davydenko, Gonzalez, Soderling, Tsonga, Simon, Stepanek, Robredo, Monfils, Ferrer, Youzhny, Berdych among the current top 20.

In french one would call him a "coupeur de tętes".

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 09:32 PM
The most laughable thing about this match is that despite being completely unable to hit an aggressive groundstroke or win a rally lasting more than 4 shots, Federer still played better than Nadal did today but lost because he was facing a strong competitor rather than one of the biggest bottlers in the game. But of course, if Start da Game is correct, then Federer's game hasn't deteriorated at all and he always used to scramble defensive forehands desperately onto the service line from a couple of feet behind the baseline, lift his passing shots too high and be unable to make more than two service returns per game.

Puschkin
11-11-2009, 09:32 PM
C'mon, it was a good match. Obviously Roger didn't play his best, but he didn't play bad either, he had something like 40 winners and 25 UE's, Benetteau had 28/18, or stg like that?
I have seen these stas, but having seen the match, too, I heavily doubt them. 48 winners for Roger, where were they?

freeandlonely
11-11-2009, 09:33 PM
Didn't watch this, sad to know. I don't want Nadal to have any chance to be 09 year-end No.1

scarecrows
11-11-2009, 09:34 PM
I have seen these stas, but having seen the match, too, I heavily doubt them. 48 winners for Roger, where were they?

aces are included in the winners stats so make it 30

Certinfy
11-11-2009, 09:34 PM
Awesome performance, just awesome :D

SERVivor
11-11-2009, 09:34 PM
Julien Benneateau may not have great talent, but unklike some of the french players, he shows alot of heart. Also, he didin't choke. So he deserves credit for is mental toughness. I'm sure Fed would beat him 9 out of 10 times, but, hey, give the guy some credit. He deserves one day in the sun.

Midnight Ninja
11-11-2009, 09:36 PM
Federer is a pathetic player. He lost against someone who was ill and was on medication while playing.

Vaccine
11-11-2009, 09:36 PM
well deserved win for julien. considering he (very likely) has not beaten anybody in top 30 all year, the tears of joy are acceptable.

of course :)

batavlada
11-11-2009, 09:36 PM
:lol: Overreaction much? Julien cried and acted like he just won a grand slam and Roger just kind of shrugged and walked off the court. Now watch Benneteau lose in the next round. :p

ofcourse he will, but at least he have something to talk with his grandsons.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 09:38 PM
Benneteau does have a win over Nadal indoors in France of course, but that was back in the misty days of 2004 when Nadal had such problems with Frenchmen that he could only muster six games against the legendary Olivier Mutis on clay.

Schu
11-11-2009, 09:39 PM
NO matter what some think about Benneteau's game or Federer's attitude, Benneteau deserved this win today - played aggressive, fought and didn't choke.

GOOD JOB BENNY!

Yeah Benny was a bit emotional after the win but damn let the guy enjoy what probably was the best win of his life.

Corey Feldman
11-11-2009, 09:39 PM
dont know if this is one of his phases but he's becoming the kind of player you despise - types that show no heart or fight when the matches get tough, expect it handed to them .. ala Gulbis, Berdych.

in his mind he can get away with it because he's won everything

but i never thought i'd see him become like this.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 09:41 PM
dont know if this is one of his phases but he's becoming the kind of player you despise - types that show no heart or fight when the matches get tough, expect it handed to them .. ala Gulbis, Berdych.

in his mind he can get away with it because he's won everything

but i never thought i'd see him become like this.

But he's always had that kind of personality, in tight matches that he's come through in the past there have been so many moments when you want to shake him and tell him to show some emotion and fight, but the racquet usually did the talking in the end. Now that the game's going, he's not the kind of person who can magic up positive body language.

Puschkin
11-11-2009, 09:41 PM
aces are included in the winners stats so make it 30
I know but I can't remember 30 winners from Roger either. :o

W!MBLEDON
11-11-2009, 09:41 PM
Benneteau does have a win over Nadal indoors in France of course, but that was back in the misty days of 2004 when Nadal had such problems with Frenchmen that he could only muster six games against the legendary Olivier Mutis on clay.

yes... those crafty frenchmen..

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 09:42 PM
yes... those crafty frenchmen..

Mutis' power game was a joy to behold, this man also beat Roddick at RG that year so he did pretty well in beating two of the decade's Grand Slam champions.

Dini
11-11-2009, 09:44 PM
Benny didn't choke and stayed aggressive throughout. Stuck to his guns and he prevailed; I think he was a breath of fresh air.

Almagro on the other hand played passively when he was up and diverted from the game plan that put him in a winning position in the first place.

tangerine_dream
11-11-2009, 09:45 PM
in his mind he can get away with it because he's won everything
He's won everything except this. You'd think he'd be more motivated.

LocoPorElTenis
11-11-2009, 09:47 PM
Typical.... everybody saying Fed is finished, until the GS comes and he makes at least the F.

Dini
11-11-2009, 09:48 PM
He's won everything except this. You'd think he'd be more motivated.

Motivation doesn't help when your game is in a tennis siesta. :p He just doesn't go for it as much anymore. So many opportunities where he was able to go forwards and be aggressive, yet he chose to stay back. :ras: He needs to go back to what he's best at. Stop playing the tentative bullshit tennis. But I think he's lost confidence in his forehand - simple.

tiptopdaisy
11-11-2009, 09:48 PM
:eek:

:lol: @ fedex

Sunset of Age
11-11-2009, 09:48 PM
The most laughable thing about this match is that despite being completely unable to hit an aggressive groundstroke or win a rally lasting more than 4 shots, Federer still played better than Nadal did today but lost because he was facing a strong competitor rather than one of the biggest bottlers in the game.

That's the whole point of the knock-out system in tennis that a lot of fans don't seem to understand, attributing certain players' multiple victories to 'luck', or, even more often, to 'disfortune of others'...
Nope, that's not the way it works.

I like that format a LOT, even if it at times boggs down my fav players - live through this, eh, or rather - play better, next time? ;) :D

FlameOn
11-11-2009, 09:49 PM
The board explodes when Fed loses. :rolls:

Fed has adapted Serena Williams mentality.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Interesting that Federer said last year he preferred the French players for their style and flair, the usual stuff, but Benneteau probably wasn't the guy he was thinking of; awkward technique, but he knuckles down mentally and always gives opponents shots that they don't want to hit, as well as being able to make a few forays forward when needed. It was obvious as early on as the end of the first set that he was winning virtually all the rallies and giving Federer's backhand a pummelling in the process, I should have seen the result coming.

acionescu
11-11-2009, 09:52 PM
Mutis' power game was a joy to behold, this man also beat Roddick at RG that year so he did pretty well in beating two of the decade's Grand Slam champions.

Yep, coz beating Roddick at RG is the greatest achievement of them all :worship:

Il Primo Uomo
11-11-2009, 09:53 PM
Fido, you can't go any lower. Losing to that talentless pusher? Come on dear, you can do so much better than that, and it's coming from someone who hates you!
Anyways, Julien is going down very soon, it's not like he had a chance to make a deep run or something (although reaching the 3rd round could be a deep run for his standards :tape: )

FlameOn
11-11-2009, 09:54 PM
Interesting that Federer said last year he preferred the French players for their style and flair, the usual stuff, but Benneteau probably wasn't the guy he was thinking of; awkward technique, but he knuckles down mentally and always gives opponents shots that they don't want to hit, as well as being able to make a few forays forward when needed. It was obvious as early on as the end of the first set that he was winning virtually all the rallies and giving Federer's backhand a pummelling in the process, I should have seen the result coming.
Not Simon either. Didn't Fed actually call him a pusher and say how much he hates pushers? Not in those words but heavily implied?

~*BGT*~
11-11-2009, 09:59 PM
I can't believe I slept through it, and the match was playing right in front of me :sobbing: I fell asleep midway through the second set, and I'll I remember was the commentators saying Julien had hit so many first serves. I can't believe he won! :eek:

Johnny Groove
11-11-2009, 10:00 PM
Benneteau showed so much passion, heart, game, good hands, and balls especially in that third set to get the win. Fully deserved.

As for Roger, chalk it up to nothing more than a further manifestation of his lack on interest in anything other than the slams. However, he needs to work on his game and confidence if he wants to win slams next year.

This passive "I don't give a shit attitude and I'll find my game when the slams come around" mindset will not keep working.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 10:01 PM
Not Simon either. Didn't Fed actually call him a pusher and say how much he hates pushers? Not in those words but heavily implied?

No, definitely not Simon. With this game I don't think he stands a chance of ever beating him again, despite being really close in both those matches last year. From what I recall he just said that Simon was one of those players who "the better you play, the better he plays", ie he uses opponents' pace and aggression against them in true counterpunching style.

philosophicalarf
11-11-2009, 10:04 PM
Dunno why all the fuss. Aside from Basel, TMC and the clay as prep for Roland Garros, Fed hasn't cared much about events outside slams for three years. Look at his record:

Cinci06: lost to Murray
Madrid06: won
Paris06: skipped
IW07: out first match to Canas
Miami07: out R4 to Canas
Canada07: lost in final to Djoko
Cinci07: won it
Madrid07: lost in final to Nalby
Paris07: lost 2nd match to Nalby
IW08: lost semis to Fish
Miami08: lost qfs to Roddick
Canada08: lost first match to Simon
Cinci08: lost 2nd match to Karlovic
Madrid08: lost semis to Murray
Paris08: withdrew before qfs
IW09: lost semis to Murray
Miami09: lost semis to Djoko
Canada09: lost qfs to Tsonga
Cinci09: wins one finally!
Shanghai09: skips it
Paris09: tanks out first match to Benneteau


In that period, he's won 7 slams, but 3 hc/indoors masters (of the 21 above). Not terribly difficult to see where his focus is.

Dini
11-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Benneteau showed so much passion, heart, game, good hands, and balls especially in that third set to get the win. Fully deserved.

As for Roger, chalk it up to nothing more than a further manifestation of his lack on interest in anything other than the slams. However, he needs to work on his game and confidence if he wants to win slams next year.

This passive "I don't give a shit attitude and I'll find my game when the slams come around" mindset will not keep working.

I don't think he's ever said that. It's only his fans giving excuses for losses in matches in which he got outplayed. He wants to win every tournament he enters, of that I'm sure. But currently he's struggling with his game - timing off the forehand and general passiveness during the important points. Plus you can't deny that Benny played brilliantly, especially on the mental side.

He's got a week and a half to find his groove again.

william_renshaw
11-11-2009, 10:07 PM
why is this thread full of people criticising nadal? who won today and who lost? Federer's attitude these days stinks, he is disrespectful to spectators, opponents and officials, couldn't care less about winning in masters 1000 events, and deserved to lose today just like he deserved to lose the wimbledon final.

I've never seen Rafa give anything less than 100%/ As for his tactics today, anyone who's watched almagro more than a handful of times knows that he very often beats himself when in a winning position. in a final of a tour event once I remember he was 5-1 up in the final set and lost it 7-5. so why try to hit winners when your opponent is making ue's. do what you have to do to win.

In terms of personality, humility, and respect for the game and those involved, rafa is a class apart from fed.

FedFan_2007
11-11-2009, 10:07 PM
Good for the game.

Linda - you suck. Go retire already.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 10:09 PM
I don't think he's ever said that. It's only his fans giving excuses for losses in matches in which he got outplayed. He wants to win every tournament he enters, of that I'm sure. But currently he's struggling with his game - timing off the forehand and general passiveness during the important points. Plus you can't deny that Benny played brilliantly, especially on the mental side.

He's got a week and a half to find his groove again.

I've never bought that excuse either, granted they're not as important to him anymore, but the Madrid victory was vital to get his confidence back and the win in Cincy was clearly big, he fought through some tough moments against Ferrer and the long tiebreak against Murray. In fact it's worth noting that Shanghai was the first Masters event that he'd skipped in almost three years, since Bercy 06; in other words once Federer began to lose more often at the Masters Series he showed up to all of them, he wasn't taking them less seriously all of a sudden.

FedFan_2007
11-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Dunno why all the fuss. Aside from Basel, TMC and the clay as prep for Roland Garros, Fed hasn't cared much about events outside slams for three years. Look at his record:

Cinci06: lost to Murray
Madrid06: won
Paris06: skipped
IW07: out first match to Canas
Miami07: out R4 to Canas
Canada07: lost in final to Djoko
Cinci07: won it
Madrid07: lost in final to Nalby
Paris07: lost 2nd match to Nalby
IW08: lost semis to Fish
Miami08: lost qfs to Roddick
Canada08: lost first match to Simon
Cinci08: lost 2nd match to Karlovic
Madrid08: lost semis to Murray
Paris08: withdrew before qfs
IW09: lost semis to Murray
Miami09: lost semis to Djoko
Canada09: lost qfs to Tsonga
Cinci09: wins one finally!
Shanghai09: skips it
Paris09: tanks out first match to Benneteau

Exactly, since early 2007 he just hasn't cared about these events any more. They're just tune-ups, like Sampras said!

Snoo Foo
11-11-2009, 10:11 PM
Dunno why all the fuss. Aside from the clay as prep for Roland Garros, Fed hasn't cared much about events outside slams for three years. Look at his record:

he's like the serena wiliams of the atp

Orka_n
11-11-2009, 10:16 PM
why is this thread full of people criticising nadal? who won today and who lost? Federer's attitude these days stinks, he is disrespectful to spectators, opponents and officials, couldn't care less about winning in masters 1000 events, and deserved to lose today just like he deserved to lose the wimbledon final.

I've never seen Rafa give anything less than 100%/ As for his tactics today, anyone who's watched almagro more than a handful of times knows that he very often beats himself when in a winning position. in a final of a tour event once I remember he was 5-1 up in the final set and lost it 7-5. so why try to hit winners when your opponent is making ue's. do what you have to do to win.

In terms of personality, humility, and respect for the game and those involved, rafa is a class apart from fed.HAHAHA no. I cannot BELIEVE the fantasy world the Rafafans live in. Federer can be smug and in this case too careless but Nadal's personality is so annoying I don't know what to say. He is only humble and respectful on 2 occasions: When he wins, or when he loses to FEDERER. If he loses to any other player he claims injury, or says I PLAYED SO BAD TODAY SO HE GOT AN EASY GAME. Is that humility to you?

Also, Nadal did play worse than Federer today. His opponent was just a joke personified.

Deivid23
11-11-2009, 10:18 PM
:haha: some fighter this Federer

guga2120
11-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Julian, great fight. :yeah:

Roger's backhand is just a thing of beauty, framing balls into the stands left and right.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 10:22 PM
Julian, great fight. :yeah:

Roger's backhand is just a thing of beauty, framing balls into the stands left and right.

Don't forget, he framed those backhands in an arrogant way too, being his usual arrogant Swiss self.

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 10:23 PM
I actually started a thread once in praise of the genius of Federer's shanks, it was back in 2004 when I saw him hit a sublime backhand topspin dropshot against Thomas Johansson in Toronto which was in no way accidental, as I was quick to point out.

Roddickominator
11-11-2009, 10:25 PM
Roger came out playing well....then looked as if he had lost interest completely by the end of the 2nd set. Weird loss for Roger, even though you know he doesn't care much about these tourneys.

Snoo Foo
11-11-2009, 10:25 PM
Except he didn't lose the Wimbledon final.

:lol: he won it but he deserved to lose

l_mac
11-11-2009, 10:29 PM
HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE MATCH, HABIBKO!!

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Dini
11-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Don't forget, he framed those backhands in an arrogant way too, being his usual arrogant Swiss self.

:lol:

Sunset of Age
11-11-2009, 10:37 PM
Roger came out playing well....then looked as if he had lost interest completely by the end of the 2nd set. Weird loss for Roger, even though you know he doesn't care much about these tourneys.

Usual Rogelio schedule as of late. I wonder how much more losses like these he'll have to experience before he realizes it's (a) time to adjust the tactic, or (b) Bolt Out completely. :rolleyes:

whattheheck
11-11-2009, 10:38 PM
Fantastic win

cocrcici
11-11-2009, 10:39 PM
HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE MATCH, HABIBKO!!

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

:lol:

philosophicalarf
11-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Usual Rogelio schedule as of late. I wonder how much more losses like these he'll have to experience before he realizes it's (a) time to adjust the tactic, or (b) Bolt Out completely. :rolleyes:


Losses like these are probably why he's still fresh for slams at 28yrs (and after the whole mono recovery too).

Hard to criticise that sort of scheduling when he's basically never been injured - look at others around the same age: Hewitt, Safin, Blake, Davy, Ferrero etc. Only Davy is still at his best level.

Chiakifug
11-11-2009, 10:44 PM
Oh dear. :cuckoo:

karadjordje
11-11-2009, 10:47 PM
What the hell was that challenge at the end so pathetic by Fed .Go and change nappies looser.

Geo
11-11-2009, 10:48 PM
nice win for the journeyman Benneteau. The only thing that could have been better for him was if this match had taken place at RG, but Paris Masters is more than good enough :)


Federer didn't seem too bothered :spit: he has a nice rest now til London :shrug:

ArgieFan
11-11-2009, 11:06 PM
Just horrible Fed, losing to this guy...

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Federer just a weak old man

His time is over

dabeast
11-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Yeesh! WTF Fed? Where's your fighting spirit?

Benny sobbing like this is the birth of his first child haha! Not a big deal beating Fed nowadays sadly.

the graduate
11-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Oh man the baby poop is messing up his mind ...he cant think straight...poor thing:p

Nole fan
11-11-2009, 11:24 PM
Wow, what's happening here? Nadal barely won his match and now Federer is defeated? in 2nd round no less... :wazzup:

Ozone
11-11-2009, 11:25 PM
*Waits for "Is Federer done" threads*

Bascule
11-11-2009, 11:37 PM
:awww: Habibko Sensei....you should never buy those tickets:hug:...even the plane was late, you didn't listen to the signs from the heaven. And you said you were glad for not seeing Nadal's match?:lol:

Benneteau - a new spartan?:D

Now, Blake, finish the job!;)

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-11-2009, 11:47 PM
http://www.blue-witch.com/images/Coffee_Mugs/Sports/550px/01768-1.jpg

Roger doesn't care

no one remembers these events anyway

its all about the slams, always was, always has been, always will be

Roger is resting, and having a well deserved break- he's had a great year

malisha
11-11-2009, 11:47 PM
kudos Benny

Florida
11-11-2009, 11:48 PM
You guys are all pathetic. The man achieved more than what you will ever achieve.... How dare you all bash him so bad!

Sjengster
11-11-2009, 11:51 PM
You guys are all pathetic. The man achieved more than what you will ever achieve.... How dare you all bash him so bad!

Which is precisely why one shouldn't get too worked up about it, there is at least some element of calling a spade a spade in amongst all the vitriol. I certainly wouldn't want to defend that performance.

River
11-12-2009, 12:19 AM
You guys are all pathetic. The man achieved more than what you will ever achieve.... How dare you all bash him so bad!

I hope to god I don't see you bash the other players then, because then I won't mind when MTF rips you apart.

Fed sucked. He's embarrassing himself and his image by going to these mandatory events just to get a check and get out. I don't give a shit what the hell he won in his career, show some respect for the other tournaments and try you damn camel. You don't want to be known as the guy who won all this and just didn't give a shit at the latter of his career.

The GOAT should learn to have some respect other than for his own ego.

Learn from Safin and retire in glory before you make yourself look like a fool.

Arkulari
11-12-2009, 12:34 AM
sorry, but retire in glory like Safin? :spit:
I like Marat, but he didn't retire in glory, Sampras for example kinda did, Borg did, but Safin? :p

gulzhan
11-12-2009, 12:36 AM
OMG :eek:

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 12:59 AM
Federer needs to wake up and ask himself some questions about matches like this

he's lost to a guy who a day before, only just scraped past Petzschner... he that won about 9 points v an injured Nadal in his return match in Montreal a few months ago.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-12-2009, 01:00 AM
sorry, but retire in glory like Safin? :spit:
I like Marat, but he didn't retire in glory, Sampras for example kinda did, Borg did, but Safin? :p

losing all your matches in 81 to Mac, never winning the USOPEN, letting the pressure get to you untill you couldn't take it- taking drugs years before Agassi to deal with it and finally walking away from tennis when you were still 26 because you couldn't handle new threats doesn't make one retire in glory

all of Borg's high percentage winning records are meaningless because he never played past his prime- otherwise we would have seen a borg in the mid 80s being destroyed by MAc in 84 and Lendl in 85-87

Arkulari
11-12-2009, 01:17 AM
what I meant is that Marat didn't go in a super high note, like winning another tournament and leaving :shrug:

most players go when they feel like they can't give anything else, Roger has lost in early rounds of MS before and will continue to do so, when he starts losing in R2 at Slams, then yes, I think it would be the time to retire

tennishero
11-12-2009, 01:18 AM
what I meant is that Marat didn't go in a super high note, like winning another tournament and leaving :shrug:

most players go when they feel like they can't give anything else, Roger has lost in early rounds of MS before and will continue to do so, when he starts losing in R2 at Slams, then yes, I think it would be the time to retire

next year

if federer wants to retire on a high note he should consider retiring before 30, hes already achieved everything.

sawan66278
11-12-2009, 02:02 AM
What an amazing victory for Benneteau!:D Wonderful to see...the match, for a journeyman like him, is a career highlight...an well earned. A la Simon last year, Federer gets aced on match point...

This is why the matches are played. Who cares how Fed played...the Frenchman gutted out the victory...and left blood on the court too. Sublime.:)

Ouragan
11-12-2009, 02:06 AM
Mutis' power game was a joy to behold, this man also beat Roddick at RG that year so he did pretty well in beating two of the decade's Grand Slam champions.

Wow, I'm amazed anybody outside France remembers Mutis.

Anyway, kudos to Benny who can always be counted on to notch some valiant wins. Has Fed finally quit tennis now that he's achieved absolutely everything?

Mimi
11-12-2009, 02:19 AM
it seems that grand slams are the only goals for roger, got to the finals of every slam but lost in R2 of master series? :pbut he is smart, i prefer to win in grand slams, he is like my old pete:cool:

Sunset of Age
11-12-2009, 02:27 AM
Oh come on, pathetic?

Mr. Federer's Time's Up. It was nice as long as it lasted, and WOW it lasted quite a while! :worship:

This is an ode... Grieg's GORGEOUS Peer Gynt Suite's... Lucia Popp: Solveig's Song from Grieg's

aU0WNE14RAY

OMG!!!

Clay Death
11-12-2009, 02:29 AM
What an amazing victory for Benneteau!:D Wonderful to see...the match, for a journeyman like him, is a career highlight...an well earned. A la Simon last year, Federer gets aced on match point...

This is why the matches are played. Who cares how Fed played...the Frenchman gutted out the victory...and left blood on the court too. Sublime.:)


its a great win for the frenchie. it is certainly his greatest win ever at an important masters series event.

i did not see the match but i assume that the frenchie took some risks and was relatively aggressive and in the end, it all worked out for him.





http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz47/claydeath/QM9JFCARTU6EICAMSGXH0CA6L12T0CAG9R9.jpg

guga2120
11-12-2009, 02:36 AM
it seems that grand slams are the only goals for roger, got to the finals of every slam but lost in R2 of master series? :pbut he is smart, i prefer to win in grand slams, he is like my old pete:cool:

This is true, but #1 seems very important to him. He will get that this year, but if he wants to keep it he has to do well in the Master series, and not just the clay ones.

Mimi
11-12-2009, 02:50 AM
HAHAHA no. I cannot BELIEVE the fantasy world the Rafafans live in. Federer can be smug and in this case too careless but Nadal's personality is so annoying I don't know what to say. He is only humble and respectful on 2 occasions: When he wins, or when he loses to FEDERER. If he loses to any other player he claims injury, or says I PLAYED SO BAD TODAY SO HE GOT AN EASY GAME. Is that humility to you?

Also, Nadal did play worse than Federer today. His opponent was just a joke personified.

why to mention nadal since this thread is not about him? :rolleyes:

tnosugar
11-12-2009, 03:01 AM
pocket money

Probably the contract with the sponsor stipulates him to play as well. Now that's not pocket money...

MrChopin
11-12-2009, 03:02 AM
We can be certain that the game has progressed past Federer. Nadal is making the new path now.

Daniel
11-12-2009, 03:05 AM
:( :(

pica_pica
11-12-2009, 04:32 AM
:eek: :bolt: :eek: :help:
Biggest UPSET of the day. What an amazing day of tennis! :eek:
I suppose it's a really bad day at office for Federer? Horrible days happen to everyone including Roger :hug: I guess it's natural that this is becoming more often as he's moving away from his peak days -- I still say I appreciate how slow this process is.

:yeah: Benneteau, well done (as compared to Mr. Almagro :tape:) He'll never forget this day. Frenchies have things to cheer about because of him.

Forehander
11-12-2009, 04:42 AM
lol amazing tank :)

Sunset of Age
11-12-2009, 04:57 AM
Deserved victory for Mr. Benneteau!

Fed, please shut up & get the hell out of there.
No fun to watch you any longer, it hurts to say this, but it's the truth.
Get out of here. :sad: :sad: :sad:

If you feel your family is more important, okay Mr. Feds, but just say so and not further torture your fans by playing like an *********, okay????? :o

jcempire
11-12-2009, 05:02 AM
Fed will still finish off this year as No 1

jcempire
11-12-2009, 05:03 AM
Deserved victory for Mr. Benneteau!

Fed, please shut up & get the hell out of there.
No fun to watch you any longer, it hurts to say this, but's the truth.
Get out of here. :sad: :sad: :sad:

He got 2GS titles and 2 GS Final

Are you kidding me? are you drinking

Sunset of Age
11-12-2009, 05:05 AM
He got 2GS titles and 2 GS Final

Are you kidding me? are you drinking

Yes I am.
Yes, he did.

Yes I drink.
Yes, he sucks.

:help: :o

No I don't care what you think, and neither does he. :p :angel:

Orysbestos
11-12-2009, 05:54 AM
What a day of tennis in paris. I would like to point out that while Nadal won by basically soft balling and floating the ball back to almagro, who was scared to take victory and snatched defeat from its jaws, we saw the antithesis of that matchup in the benneteau federer match.

Roger went for his shots, shanked a few, but benneteau CAME UP WITH THE GOODS.. read federer's serve beautifully.. attacked the net..and did not back down.

Undoubtedly half as long as the 3 hour nerves-athon, but n times as good in quality.

Great effort roger on your serves, but was beaten by a better man today.

I dont know what to say about the nadal-almagro match, where the better man just eased his foot of the gas pedal and the beated man resorted to smart, but ugly tennis, to wrestle victory from jaws of defeat. That match truly epitomized "winning ugly"


Between Murray and Nadal, we have 2 halves of the same type of game.

It will be truly sad when roger is no longer in the game, because it takes a beautiful game to beat his own beautiful game when he is playing at a supremely high level.

To beat nadal you normally have to bludgeon him to death like del potro and all 6 foot 5 of him can. (berdych too).

Onlyl davydenko can be unfazed by his moonballiness, and just out angle nadul.


Go Nikolai


PS: Safin was an amazing personality on the court over last 10 years..will be a shame to lose someone like him from game

it's so WTA.

RogerRena tanking non-slams, Nadalfina playing shit and scraping thru choking players etc.

The parallels are amazing.

Snoo Foo
11-12-2009, 05:58 AM
some self-medicating wounded souls in fedlandia tonight :unsure:

JolánGagó
11-12-2009, 06:16 AM
OMG! Is habibko on suicide watch? :scared:

TheConsigliere
11-12-2009, 06:40 AM
Fed fans, why would you care about this loss? Fed loses nothing by this. He's still assured of Number 1. I'm sure he doesn't care that much. He just shows up for the slams and never fails to turn it on.

bokehlicious
11-12-2009, 06:43 AM
Good for the game.

This :yeah: time for Rafa to regain #1 and make ATP shine again...

Foxy
11-12-2009, 09:09 AM
dont know if this is one of his phases but he's becoming the kind of player you despise - types that show no heart or fight when the matches get tough, expect it handed to them .. ala Gulbis, Berdych.

in his mind he can get away with it because he's won everything

but i never thought i'd see him become like this.

Try playing some GTA4 like me. You will feel a lot better. :yeah:

Commander Data
11-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Fed better retire ;)

Commander Data
11-12-2009, 09:19 AM
Oh come on, pathetic?

Mr. Federer's Time's Up. It was nice as long as it lasted, and WOW it lasted quite a while! :worship:



karin, are you okay?!

Jōris
11-12-2009, 09:21 AM
Federer's unforced errors were painful to watch, even for me. I don't think he cared much yesterday.

simplet
11-12-2009, 09:31 AM
This :yeah: time for Rafa to regain #1 and make ATP shine again...

Yeah the way he's been playing for six months he'll make a really shiny n1, that's for sure...

CooCooCachoo
11-12-2009, 09:52 AM
What a loss :speakles:

HarryMan
11-12-2009, 09:59 AM
:spit:
Oh Feddy, time to take the year off.

habibko
11-12-2009, 10:11 AM
first match I ever watch Fed live in it and of course he loses :bigcry:

Benny played a great TB and kept his nerve and played the right way, assaulting Fed*s defensive backhand on the important points and never afraid to finish at the net, it*s all about execution and playing the right shot at the right time and Benny did just that, congrats to him :hatoff: the win meant a great deal to him as well.

Fed was waaay to defensive in all the important stages, this is starting to become a trend and it*s sooo unlike Roger, what*s wrong with him? I hope he gets his shit together or else he will start losing more often in slams real soon :(

also I noticed Fed never really was fired up in any stage of the match, never even gave his usual *come on*, it*s as if he resigned and accepted the loss after he got broken in the 3rd set, does he really not care about results outside slams anymore? already? that*s the only explanation for me.

zcess81
11-12-2009, 10:15 AM
first match I ever watch Fed live in it and of course he loses :bigcry:

Benny played a great TB and kept his nerve and played the right way, assaulting Fed*s defensive backhand on the important points and never afraid to finish at the net, it*s all about execution and playing the right shot at the right time and Benny did just that, congrats to him :hatoff: the win meant a great deal to him as well.

Fed was waaay to defensive in all the important stages, this is starting to become a trend and it*s sooo unlike Roger, what*s wrong with him? I hope he gets his shit together or else he will start losing more often in slams real soon :(

also I noticed Fed never really was fired up in any stage of the match, never even gave his usual *come on*, it*s as if he resigned and accepted the loss after he got broken in the 3rd set, does he really not care about results outside slams anymore? already? that*s the only explanation for me.


I just posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it for you.


:bs: if that was the case he's play ONLY compulsary tournaments. Most of the time he skips Paris Masters for whatever reason...why did he decide to play/travel if he "doesn't give a crap"? I'm sure he's got better things to do in his life then lose in 2nd round of Paris masters. Granted Slams are priority and certanly there is A LOT more motivation to do well there but to say he "doesn't give a crap" in other tournaments is a complete BS. He was winning masters/smaller tournaments all the time when he had 8,9, 10 slams. Why didn't he focus only on slams then? After you win 9-10 slams most players would only be focused on winning slams cause in the end that's what really matters, but not Fed. He cared then and he cares now about winning EVERY tournament he is in. Yes, there are different degrees of motivation depending what tournament he playes, but HE DOES care. I don't doubt that for a second. Winning is a habbit. He's been winning all his life, it's his mindset...you don't decide "not to give a crap" overnight. The day Federer stops caring about winning (any tournament) will be the day that he retires.

FedererBulgaria
11-12-2009, 10:25 AM
Stupid title.....feel sorry for Fed!

habibko
11-12-2009, 10:30 AM
I just posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it for you.


:bs: if that was the case he's play ONLY compulsary tournaments. Most of the time he skips Paris Masters for whatever reason...why did he decide to play/travel if he "doesn't give a crap"? I'm sure he's got better things to do in his life then lose in 2nd round of Paris masters. Granted Slams are priority and certanly there is A LOT more motivation to do well there but to say he "doesn't give a crap" in other tournaments is a complete BS. He was winning masters/smaller tournaments all the time when he had 8,9, 10 slams. Why didn't he focus only on slams then? After you win 9-10 slams most players would only be focused on winning slams cause in the end that's what really matters, but not Fed. He cared then and he cares now about winning EVERY tournament he is in. Yes, there are different degrees of motivation depending what tournament he playes, but HE DOES care. I don't doubt that for a second. Winning is a habbit. He's been winning all his life, it's his mindset...you don't decide "not to give a crap" overnight. The day Federer stops caring about winning (any tournament) will be the day that he retires.

no one knows for sure except him, we can talk about it all we want but we will never be in his shoes to know how it feels for him, I*m sure he still loves tennis a great deal but perhaps as he get used to his life as a father and as a family man his priorities might start to shift in new directions, I would be surprised if it happend THIS fast but really why wouldn*t he get bumped up like he did in slams if he really cared much for not losing last night?

he might care but not as much as slams, and as time passes by the disparity will only grow bigger and bigger, matches like this one shows that.

rocketassist
11-12-2009, 10:41 AM
I keep thinking back to the US Open 08 and thinking why he couldn't have played like a muggy shithouse like he has in basically every other big final since Nadal at Wimbledon.

bokehlicious
11-12-2009, 10:55 AM
I keep thinking back to the US Open 08 and thinking why he couldn't have played like a muggy shithouse like he has in basically every other big final since Nadal at Wimbledon.

:lol: :hug:

habibko
11-12-2009, 11:22 AM
HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE MATCH, HABIBKO!!

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

showing ur class again I see :rolleyes:

munZe konZa
11-12-2009, 11:31 AM
it's very hard for Federererer after Nole defeated him in Switzerland . He must be too happy that he won those titles this year in the middle of the year.

Commander Data
11-12-2009, 11:33 AM
first match I ever watch Fed live in it and of course he loses :bigcry:

Benny played a great TB and kept his nerve and played the right way, assaulting Fed*s defensive backhand on the important points and never afraid to finish at the net, it*s all about execution and playing the right shot at the right time and Benny did just that, congrats to him :hatoff: the win meant a great deal to him as well.

Fed was waaay to defensive in all the important stages, this is starting to become a trend and it*s sooo unlike Roger, what*s wrong with him? I hope he gets his shit together or else he will start losing more often in slams real soon :(

also I noticed Fed never really was fired up in any stage of the match, never even gave his usual *come on*, it*s as if he resigned and accepted the loss after he got broken in the 3rd set, does he really not care about results outside slams anymore? already? that*s the only explanation for me.

I wouldn't overrate this match. it is not like Fed delivered some shitty perfromance towards the end of the year for the first time. I really expected this. I don't see any reason to panic at all. Some shitty performance against a low ranked player was long overdue. lets watch the Masters Cup and AO2010 for some insights. If Fed wins one of the two it is all good.

Commander Data
11-12-2009, 11:34 AM
it's very hard for Federererer after Nole defeated him in Switzerland . He must be too happy that he won those titles this year in the middle of the year.

I don't think it is that hard for him actually.

bokehlicious
11-12-2009, 11:47 AM
He must be too happy that he won those titles this year in the middle of the year.

You mean RG and Wimbledon? Yup, hopefully it helps him getting over those so heartbreaking losses of Basel and Bercy... :awww:

:lol:

Orka_n
11-12-2009, 01:06 PM
why to mention nadal since this thread is not about him? :rolleyes:What are you talking about? I obviously wasn't the one who brought it up. I just can't handle people who call him humble.

Noleta
11-12-2009, 01:53 PM
I just posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it for you.


:bs: if that was the case he's play ONLY compulsary tournaments. Most of the time he skips Paris Masters for whatever reason...why did he decide to play/travel if he "doesn't give a crap"? I'm sure he's got better things to do in his life then lose in 2nd round of Paris masters. Granted Slams are priority and certanly there is A LOT more motivation to do well there but to say he "doesn't give a crap" in other tournaments is a complete BS. He was winning masters/smaller tournaments all the time when he had 8,9, 10 slams. Why didn't he focus only on slams then? After you win 9-10 slams most players would only be focused on winning slams cause in the end that's what really matters, but not Fed. He cared then and he cares now about winning EVERY tournament he is in. Yes, there are different degrees of motivation depending what tournament he playes, but HE DOES care. I don't doubt that for a second. Winning is a habbit. He's been winning all his life, it's his mindset...you don't decide "not to give a crap" overnight. The day Federer stops caring about winning (any tournament) will be the day that he retires.

:worship:

Geez,how dramatic people can get:eek:He lost,so what,now he'll have more time to prepare for the WTF,eh?:wavey:

tennizen
11-12-2009, 01:59 PM
Federer fans are reacting as if he lost in the 2nd round of Wimbledon or something:rolls:

Arkulari
11-12-2009, 02:11 PM
Federer haters are rejoicing as if he lost in the 2nd round of Wimbledon or something:rolls:

fixed ;)

tennizen
11-12-2009, 02:19 PM
fixed ;)

Fed haters rejoicing every loss makes sense. His losses are few and he had too good of a summer. Fed fans on the other hand cannot be satisfied even after the great summer he's had and the fact that he reached a final last week. It's doomsday because he lost in the 2nd rd of a tournament which he has never played well ever:lol:

Arkulari
11-12-2009, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty satisfied and a lot of other fans are as well, maybe you're referring to the usual tard who cannot accept the fact that 2006 Fed is gone :p

manuel84
11-12-2009, 02:27 PM
This is fucking madness. But I suppose the GOAT-turned-pussy now has more time to rest for London, bleh?

habibko
11-12-2009, 06:07 PM
Fed haters rejoicing every loss makes sense. His losses are few and he had too good of a summer. Fed fans on the other hand cannot be satisfied even after the great summer he's had and the fact that he reached a final last week. It's doomsday because he lost in the 2nd rd of a tournament which he has never played well ever:lol:

it*s about his attitude and the manner in which he is losing more so than the loss itself.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 06:19 PM
it*s about his attitude and the manner in which he is losing more so than the loss itself.Exactly

tangerine_dream
11-13-2009, 02:59 PM
I love how Bodo isn't afraid to mock the Fedtards, getting under their thin skin like no other tennis writer. :lol: Naturally, his post has almost 100 comments on it already.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4649578&name=bodo_peter

Downward Spiral?
Get used to it, religious Federer followers: Plenty more disappointing results are in the future unless he finds a sudden burst of aggressive play.


Federer letting too many chances slip away
Thursday, November 12, 2009 | Feedback | Print Entry
Peter Bodo

Oh, Julien Benneteau, how could you do it to Roger … how could you do it to … us? :spit:

That was the cry that went up from the Roger Federer faithful, who take the psychological process of "identification" to new heights, :haha: as soon as Benneteau wrapped up his win over Federer at the BNP Paribas Masters -- the last 1000-series tournament of the year and the prelude to the year-end Tennis Masters Cup.

The reaction was a perfect case in point illustrating the marriage of two frequently voiced theories: The rich get richer and greed is good. For it seems that Federer's most die-hard supporters just never tire of sticking their virtual faces into the trough of Ws. In this, they are very different from their idol and icon, and setting themselves up for some disappointing times. :awww:

Since winning his record-shattering 15th major title at Wimbledon, Federer has shown signs of serious metal (or is it "mettle"?) fatigue. He took his eyes off the ball and committed the unforgivable sin of changing a winning game in his U.S. Open final against Juan Martin del Potro, and found himself outhit and outmuscled in the late stages of that match.

Some critics thought the decision betrayed the whiff of the arrogance some attribute to Federer -- a hubris that leads him to play any way his opponent wants, confident that he can still adapt and win, or simply do the same thing as his opponent, only better -- the latter being the challenge-seeking man's way of making a point.

But I put that turnaround in the U.S. Open final down less to arrogance than a lack of paying sufficiently close attention to what was happening on the court, happening to him -- the greatest of all time -- at the hands of a still-raw, relatively inexperienced aspiring champion. Somehow, if Federer were looking to bag his first (as opposed to a record sixth straight) U.S. Open, I don't think he would have felt so confident abandoning the containment strategy he'd successfully pursued early in the match.

When you turn your back on the containment strategy, you'd better be ready to reach out and aggressively grab the match; del Potro prevented Federer from doing that in New York, and in his subsequent tournament appearances, against lesser players than the U.S. Open champ, Federer simply didn't follow that aggressive mandate. He lost the final at Basel to Novak Djokovic and his first match in Paris. Don't think he doesn't understand why.

"It wasn't a bad performance," Federer said. "I think Julien, he went out and got the victory. You know, I definitely had chances. I missed them. Seems to happen a bit to me now, you know, looking back at the Basel final or the U.S. Open final. I just have to make sure I don't let chances go by like this all the time."

Metal fatigue causes many a breakdown in high-performance motorcycles and cars; mettle fatigue causes the same in champions. Federer fans may as well get used to the idea.

JolánGagó
11-13-2009, 03:01 PM
why are you bumping this thread? :shrug: this is all so forgotten already...

tangerine_dream
11-13-2009, 03:08 PM
why are you bumping this thread? :shrug: this is all so forgotten already...
I didn't bump it, it was on the front page of GM. Nobody has forgotten this match, it will live on in infamy forever.

Plus, I love to annoy the Feddytards, mwahaha. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/tanuki-kage/Emoticons/smack_poke.gif

JolánGagó
11-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Plus, I love to annoy the Feddytards, mwahaha. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/tanuki-kage/Emoticons/smack_poke.gif

:speakles:

reported.

tangerine_dream
11-13-2009, 03:26 PM
:speakles:

reported.
To what end? :p

JolánGagó
11-13-2009, 03:41 PM
To what end? :p

just annoying? :rolleyes:

softy :p

Vida
11-13-2009, 03:48 PM
seen this. its really no big deal. perhaps only downside fed wont get prepared well enough for WTF. hes had plenny of rest so...

Dougie
11-13-2009, 04:21 PM
This result says nothing of Fed´s form, but says A LOT of how meaningless the whole season is after the US Open.

Burrow
11-13-2009, 04:24 PM
This result says nothing of Fed´s form, but says A LOT of how meaningless the whole season is after the US Open.

to federer

Aenea
11-13-2009, 04:26 PM
This result says nothing of Fed´s form, but says A LOT of how meaningless the whole season is after the US Open.

:rolls: it wouldn't be that meaningless to you had Rogi won and had he still been in competition. Tennis world doesn't turn around Rogi's wins and losses only.

Dougie
11-13-2009, 04:31 PM
:rolls: it wouldn't be that meaningless to you had Rogi won and had he still been in competition. Tennis world doesn't turn around Rogi's wins and losses only.

And what do you know about my favorite players of preferences? I couldn´t care less about Federer, take a look at the results of the past month, half the players are either tired, injured, un-motivated or bribed. Call me a fanboy all you wish, but the season is as good as over after the US Open.

batavlada
11-13-2009, 04:38 PM
And what do you know about my favorite players of preferences? I couldn´t care less about Federer, take a look at the results of the past month, half the players are either tired, injured, un-motivated or bribed. Call me a fanboy all you wish, but the season is as good as over after the US Open.

There is some truth in your words. But, in other hand, season is not over yet. Someone had peak before US open, someone will peak in December (when majority of players cure wounds) and win early tournaments in January. There is a piece of cake for many.

Dougie
11-13-2009, 05:02 PM
There is some truth in your words. But, in other hand, season is not over yet. Someone had peak before US open, someone will peak in December (when majority of players cure wounds) and win early tournaments in January. There is a piece of cake for many.

Of course, I´m not saying these tournaments shouldn´t be played. It´s just that for me, the season loses it´s interest after the GS´s, and the indoor tennis can be a bit boring anyway. And I don´t mean to take anything away from Benneteau, a great win for him. But these kind of results just show that some of the players are already focusing on the next season.

Bernard Black
11-13-2009, 05:27 PM
Deserved win for Benneteau, and nice for the crowd to see.

Swiss Mountain
11-17-2009, 07:13 AM
:lol: Overreaction much? Julien cried and acted like he just won a grand slam and Roger just kind of shrugged and walked off the court. Now watch Benneteau lose in the next round. :p

Late to comment, but yes, I was there, it was ridiculous, but hell, let him have the time of his life. It will never happen again.

duong
11-17-2009, 10:16 AM
Late to comment, but yes, I was there, it was ridiculous, but hell, let him have the time of his life. It will never happen again.

if you consider how Benneteau played and moved, like a super-excited crazy "amphetamin" man, you perfectly understand :

- how he was all match (or at least last two sets), not especially in the end

- that he played like that because he was in such "condition"

everything was crazy, but well : we could see that "Roger" Benneteau for one hour and a half once in a life :lol:

duong
11-17-2009, 10:52 AM
well deserved win for julien. considering he (very likely) has not beaten anybody in top 30 all year, the tears of joy are acceptable.

this year, Benneteau has beaten Davydenko, Youzhny, Troicki, Andreev, Lopez, Melzer (twice).

Murray had a tough match against him in Cinci.

But he surely didn't play nearly as well as he did last wednesday which was unreal.

Iván
11-17-2009, 10:54 AM
Julien is a good player for sure, i like his groundstrokes.

just lacks it between the ears

duong
11-17-2009, 10:56 AM
WTF Fed was thinking he was doing? I pay for shit.

Fed was playing quite well : far better than previous week, except maybe against Djokovic. A good first round comparing to his standards.

But "the great Roger" was the other side of the net ;)

duong
11-17-2009, 10:57 AM
Julien is a good player for sure, i like his groundstrokes.

did you see the volleys ? :lol: :haha:

Vida
11-17-2009, 11:55 AM
the crying scene at the end was a tad disgusting. sure it meant a lot but jesus christ, its not like he escaped a death bed.

RafitoGoat
11-17-2009, 11:59 AM
It will be interesting to see how Federer goes in London, he needs to win 3 matches to be assured of the number one :yeah:

duong
11-17-2009, 12:10 PM
It will be interesting to see how Federer goes in London, he needs to win 3 matches to be assured of the number one :yeah:

he is lucky since he will not have to meet the great "Roger Benneteau" this time ;)

RafitoGoat
11-17-2009, 12:20 PM
he is lucky since he will not have to meet the great "Roger Benneteau" this time ;)

Hey dr duong do you know which London pool Djokovic will be put inside of?

duong
11-17-2009, 12:28 PM
Hey dr duong do you know which London pool Djokovic will be put inside of?

we don't know yet : the only thing we know is that he will not be in the same as Murray (and Fed and Nadal not in the same, Del Potro and Davydenko or Roddick not in the same, Verdasco and Söderling or Davydenko not in the same)

And Benneteau will not be there :yeah:

Apemant
11-17-2009, 12:30 PM
Fed was playing quite well : far better than previous week, except maybe against Djokovic. A good first round comparing to his standards.

But "the great Roger" was the other side of the net ;)

Yes, he wasn't playing 'bad', it was his normal game of last 2 years. Great serve + lots of pushing + quite a few awful errors + occassional flashes of brilliance. :devil:

I miss the old Roger though... Benneteau doesn't quite do the thing for me. LOL.

RafitoGoat
11-17-2009, 12:35 PM
we don't know yet : the only thing we know is that he will not be in the same as Murray (and Fed and Nadal not in the same, Del Potro and Davydenko or Roddick not in the same, Verdasco and Söderling or Davydenko not in the same)

And Benneteau will not be there :yeah:

Thanks all those nondraws sound really good, aweosme ma'am:p

SerenaFederer
11-17-2009, 04:34 PM
we don't know yet : the only thing we know is that he will not be in the same as Murray (and Fed and Nadal not in the same, Del Potro and Davydenko or Roddick not in the same, Verdasco and Söderling or Davydenko not in the same)

And Benneteau will not be there :yeah:

most important fact here

SetSampras
11-17-2009, 06:05 PM
I just dont think Fed cares much about anything but slams at this point in his career. HE puts on a display like this yet reaches every slam final all year? Kind of proof in the pudding there

FlameOn
10-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Just bringing this back up to remind you Rafa-hating cocks that upsets happen in the indoors season all the time close to the year end championships and really mean nothing :yeah:.

bokehlicious
10-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Just bringing this back up to remind you Rafa-hating cocks that upsets happen in the indoors season all the time close to the year end championships and really mean nothing :yeah:.

:haha sour grapes much? :awww: :hug: :hug: