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Fastest fallers in 2009

Montego
11-07-2009, 01:52 PM
In addition to the thread about fastest climbers in 2009 - I decided to make a list of those who lost their rankings in the most rapid way. Here it is, comparing 02/11/2009 to 05/01/2009:

Players out of the rankings:

1. Robin Haase [HOL] - from 124 to n/a
2. Mathieu Montcourt [FRA, r.i.p] - from 151 to n/a
3. Jonas Bjorkman [SWE] - from 167 to n/a
4. Younes El Ayanoui [MOR] - from 191 to n/a
5. Martin Verkerk [HOL] - from 261 to n/a
6. Alun Jones [AUS] - from 446 to n/a
7. Hugo Armando [USA] - from 457 to n/a
8. Nathan Healey [AUS] - from 500 to n/a
9. Alberto Francis [USA] - from 503 to n/a
10. Max Mirnyi [BLR] - from 521 to n/a

Biggest fall in the rankings:

1. Nicolas Coutelot [FRA] (-1255 positions) - from 282 to 1537
2. David Diaz-Ventura [ESP] (-1032 positions) - from 395 to 1427
3. Werner Eschauer [AUT] (-947 positions) - from 590 to 1537
4. Diego Hartfield [ARG] (-927 positions) - from 164 to 1091
5. Andre Ghem [BRA] (-916 positions) - from 226 to 1142
6. Artur Chernov [RUS] (-894 positions) - from 629 to 1523
7. Damian Patriarca [ARG] (-879 positions) - from 501 to 1380
8. Kevin Botti [FRA] (-848 positions) - from 930 to 1778
9. Vjekoslav Skenderovic [CRO] (-829 positions) - from 505 to 1334
10. Milan Pokrajac [CAN] (-811 positions) - from 531 to 1342

other "honourable" mentions:

15. Jeroen Masson [BEL] (-762 positions) - from 329 to 1091
24. Adrian Cruciat [ROM] (-680 positions) - from 174 to 854
33. Dusan Vemic [SRB] (-629 positions) - from 236 to 865
46. Sebastien Grosjean [FRA] (-542 positions) - from 165 to 707
69. Thomas Johansson [SWE] (-470 positions) - from 146 to 616
71. Bohdan Ulihrach [CZE] (-469 positions) - from 336 to 805
90. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
117. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
132. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
158. Lukas Dlouhy [CZE] (-296 positions) - from 180 to 476

Biggest fall out of Top100:

1. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
2. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
3. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
4. Vincent Spadea [USA] (-207 positions) - from 82 to 289
5. Nicolas Devilder [FRA] (-167 positions) - from 72 to 239
6. Gilles Muller [LUX] (-162 positions) - from 94 to 256
7. Nicolas Mahut [FRA] (-126 positions) - from 93 to 219
8. Guillermo Canas [ARG] (-123 positions) - from 78 to 201
9. Diego Junqueira [ARG] (-119 positions) - from 77 to 196
10. Bobby Reynolds [USA] (-107 positions) - from 68 to 175

Biggest fall out of Top25:

1. David Nalbandian [ARG] (-58 positions) - from 11 to 69
2. Dmitry Tursunov [RUS] (-36 positions) - from 24 to 60
3. Richard Gasquet [FRA] (-34 positions) - from 23 to 57
4. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
5. Mardy Fish [USA] (-30 positions) - from 22 to 52

Biggest fall out of Top10:

1. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
2. Gilles Simon [FRA] (-6 positions) - from 6 to 12

:angel:

GlennMirnyi
11-07-2009, 02:04 PM
Ghem has been injured all year long, he'll come back in 2010 with a protected ranking.

Certinfy
11-07-2009, 02:04 PM
Nice thread :)

Bilbo
11-07-2009, 02:13 PM
gulbis should be on that list too

out_here_grindin
11-07-2009, 02:18 PM
Poor Nishikori:sad:. I really hope he recovers soon. He would be nothing but good for the game

philosophicalarf
11-07-2009, 02:20 PM
Problem with this list is its stuffed with those who've dropped hard due to not playing (due to injuries or whatever).

Might be interesting to compile a list of form drops purely because of form.

Montego
11-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Problem with this list is its stuffed with those who've dropped hard due to not playing (due to injuries or whatever).

Might be interesting to compile a list of form drops purely because of form.

Yes, I counted only pure numbers, it was made only from a strict mathematical point of view

Sapeod
11-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Then it will have to be Muller, Gulbis, Schwank and maybe some other non top 200 players.

Montego
11-07-2009, 02:23 PM
gulbis should be on that list too

He lost "only" 39 positions (from 53 to 92)

Montego
11-07-2009, 02:26 PM
Then it will have to be Muller, Gulbis, Schwank and maybe some other non top 200 players.

Schwank is on 11th place in "out of Top100", after Reynolds (-103 positions)

Pea
11-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Mathieu:sad:

Yves.
11-07-2009, 03:48 PM
In addition to the thread about fastest climbers in 2009 - I decided to make a list of those who lost their rankings in the most rapid way. Here it is, comparing 02/11/2009 to 05/01/2009:

Players out of the rankings:

1. Robin Haase [HOL] - from 124 to n/a
2. Mathieu Montcourt [FRA, r.i.p] - from 151 to n/a
3. Jonas Bjorkman [SWE] - from 167 to n/a
4. Younes El Ayanoui [MOR] - from 191 to n/a
5. Martin Verkerk [HOL] - from 261 to n/a
6. Alun Jones [AUS] - from 446 to n/a
7. Hugo Armando [USA] - from 457 to n/a
8. Nathan Healey [AUS] - from 500 to n/a
9. Alberto Francis [USA] - from 503 to n/a
10. Max Mirnyi [BLR] - from 521 to n/a

Biggest fall in the rankings:

1. Nicolas Coutelot [FRA] (-1255 positions) - from 282 to 1537
2. David Diaz-Ventura [ESP] (-1032 positions) - from 395 to 1427
3. Werner Eschauer [AUT] (-947 positions) - from 590 to 1537
4. Diego Hartfield [ARG] (-927 positions) - from 164 to 1091
5. Andre Ghem [BRA] (-916 positions) - from 226 to 1142
6. Artur Chernov [RUS] (-894 positions) - from 629 to 1523
7. Damian Patriarca [ARG] (-879 positions) - from 501 to 1380
8. Kevin Botti [FRA] (-848 positions) - from 930 to 1778
9. Vjekoslav Skenderovic [CRO] (-829 positions) - from 505 to 1334
10. Milan Pokrajac [CAN] (-811 positions) - from 531 to 1342

other "honourable" mentions:

15. Jeroen Masson [BEL] (-762 positions) - from 329 to 1091
24. Adrian Cruciat [ROM] (-680 positions) - from 174 to 854
33. Dusan Vemic [SRB] (-629 positions) - from 236 to 865
46. Sebastien Grosjean [FRA] (-542 positions) - from 165 to 707
69. Thomas Johansson [SWE] (-470 positions) - from 146 to 616
71. Bohdan Ulihrach [CZE] (-469 positions) - from 336 to 805
90. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
117. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
132. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
158. Lukas Dlouhy [CZE] (-296 positions) - from 180 to 476

Biggest fall out of Top100:

1. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
2. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
3. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
4. Vincent Spadea [USA] (-207 positions) - from 82 to 289
5. Nicolas Devilder [FRA] (-167 positions) - from 72 to 239
6. Gilles Muller [LUX] (-162 positions) - from 94 to 256
7. Nicolas Mahut [FRA] (-126 positions) - from 93 to 219
8. Guillermo Canas [ARG] (-123 positions) - from 78 to 201
9. Diego Junqueira [ARG] (-119 positions) - from 77 to 196
10. Bobby Reynolds [USA] (-107 positions) - from 68 to 175

Biggest fall out of Top25:

1. David Nalbandian [ARG] (-58 positions) - from 11 to 69
2. Dmitry Tursunov [RUS] (-36 positions) - from 24 to 60
3. Richard Gasquet [FRA] (-34 positions) - from 23 to 57
4. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
5. Mardy Fish [USA] (-30 positions) - from 22 to 52

Biggest fall out of Top10:

1. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
2. Gilles Simon [FRA] (-6 positions) - from 6 to 12

:angel:

???

Yves.
11-07-2009, 03:52 PM
Haase... I hope he will ever come back...

octatennis
11-07-2009, 05:42 PM
In addition to the thread about fastest climbers in 2009 - I decided to make a list of those who lost their rankings in the most rapid way. Here it is, comparing 02/11/2009 to 05/01/2009:

Players out of the rankings:

1. Robin Haase [HOL] - from 124 to n/a
2. Mathieu Montcourt [FRA, r.i.p] - from 151 to n/a3. Jonas Bjorkman [SWE] - from 167 to n/a
4. Younes El Ayanoui [MOR] - from 191 to n/a
5. Martin Verkerk [HOL] - from 261 to n/a
6. Alun Jones [AUS] - from 446 to n/a
7. Hugo Armando [USA] - from 457 to n/a
8. Nathan Healey [AUS] - from 500 to n/a
9. Alberto Francis [USA] - from 503 to n/a
10. Max Mirnyi [BLR] - from 521 to n/a

Biggest fall in the rankings:

1. Nicolas Coutelot [FRA] (-1255 positions) - from 282 to 1537
2. David Diaz-Ventura [ESP] (-1032 positions) - from 395 to 1427
3. Werner Eschauer [AUT] (-947 positions) - from 590 to 1537
4. Diego Hartfield [ARG] (-927 positions) - from 164 to 1091
5. Andre Ghem [BRA] (-916 positions) - from 226 to 1142
6. Artur Chernov [RUS] (-894 positions) - from 629 to 1523
7. Damian Patriarca [ARG] (-879 positions) - from 501 to 1380
8. Kevin Botti [FRA] (-848 positions) - from 930 to 1778
9. Vjekoslav Skenderovic [CRO] (-829 positions) - from 505 to 1334
10. Milan Pokrajac [CAN] (-811 positions) - from 531 to 1342

other "honourable" mentions:

15. Jeroen Masson [BEL] (-762 positions) - from 329 to 1091
24. Adrian Cruciat [ROM] (-680 positions) - from 174 to 854
33. Dusan Vemic [SRB] (-629 positions) - from 236 to 865
46. Sebastien Grosjean [FRA] (-542 positions) - from 165 to 707
69. Thomas Johansson [SWE] (-470 positions) - from 146 to 616
71. Bohdan Ulihrach [CZE] (-469 positions) - from 336 to 805
90. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
117. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
132. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
158. Lukas Dlouhy [CZE] (-296 positions) - from 180 to 476

Biggest fall out of Top100:

1. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
2. Kei Nishikori [JPN] (-368 positions) - from 61 to 429
3. Agustin Calleri [ARG] (-342 positions) - from 62 to 404
4. Vincent Spadea [USA] (-207 positions) - from 82 to 289
5. Nicolas Devilder [FRA] (-167 positions) - from 72 to 239
6. Gilles Muller [LUX] (-162 positions) - from 94 to 256
7. Nicolas Mahut [FRA] (-126 positions) - from 93 to 219
8. Guillermo Canas [ARG] (-123 positions) - from 78 to 201
9. Diego Junqueira [ARG] (-119 positions) - from 77 to 196
10. Bobby Reynolds [USA] (-107 positions) - from 68 to 175

Biggest fall out of Top25:

1. David Nalbandian [ARG] (-58 positions) - from 11 to 69
2. Dmitry Tursunov [RUS] (-36 positions) - from 24 to 60
3. Richard Gasquet [FRA] (-34 positions) - from 23 to 57
4. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
5. Mardy Fish [USA] (-30 positions) - from 22 to 52

Biggest fall out of Top10:

1. James Blake [USA] (-31 positions) - from 10 to 41
2. Gilles Simon [FRA] (-6 positions) - from 6 to 12

:angel:

did not know about it.when it was?

oranges
11-07-2009, 06:58 PM
Can anyone shed any light what's up with Haase? He should have had the knee surgery a long while ago. Is he not coming back or it will just take more time?

anon57
11-07-2009, 07:16 PM
Can anyone shed any light what's up with Haase? He should have had the knee surgery a long while ago. Is he not coming back or it will just take more time?Last year he had problems with his knee, he then had surgery on his knee and after that started playing again in September 2008 and after a couple of matches he had fluids in his knee again. Robin has basically been having problems with his knee since then. He's had minor surgery on the knee again earlier this year to try and determine what was bothering him but nothing serious was found. He's recently started playing a bit of tennis again, I'm not entirely sure how the knee has been holding up though. He still wants to comeback but hasn't set a date yet since he doesn't want to rush the knee.

FlameOn
11-07-2009, 07:53 PM
Rafa Nadal.

Nah, in all honesty though, he lost a whole lot of points in such a short space of time. 5000+ if I remember right. In terms of amount of points lost within about a month it must be up there with biggest fallers?

CooCooCachoo
11-07-2009, 09:42 PM
Ghem has been injured all year long, he'll come back in 2010 with a protected ranking.

No. He already came back.

Action Jackson
11-08-2009, 06:22 AM
No. He already came back.

He had a PR played 3 events this year and didn't use all of them and injured his elbow after the shoulder injury he suffered in 2008.

HuaTuo
11-08-2009, 06:27 AM
Fat Dave I think

leng jai
11-08-2009, 06:43 AM
gulbis should be on that list too

Only to satisfy your obsession.

DorianGray7
11-08-2009, 06:50 AM
LOL at Blake and Simon.

what a mug these two.

FlameOn
11-08-2009, 06:52 AM
If there was a category in the OP for most points lost, it would be Rafa Nadal no?

Montego
12-07-2009, 07:22 PM
As promised - here is the updated list after all the tournaments finished (well, there are still some futures, but they won't make too much difference anyway). Remember that these are only numbers, only statistics and when analyzing it - you should take much more into account than pure numbers. This is only the basis for analysis.

This is more difficult to judge than the top movers, as many of these guys just have finished their careers or were fallind down because of injuries. But - like I said - these are only numbers, read them as you wish.

BTW. Does anyone know why Marat is so special that he is already unranked, whil Santoro and even Thomas Johansson are ?


Top 10 players out of the rankings in 2009:

1. Marat Safin (RUS) - from #29 to unranked
2. Mathieu Montcourt (FRA) - from #151 to unranked (R.I.P.)
3. Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) - from #172 to unranked
4. Younes El Ayanoui (MOR) - from #201 to unranked
5. Martin Verkerk (HOL) - from #263 to unranked
6. Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE) - from #338 to unranked
7. Tomas Cakl (CZE) - from #362 to unranked
8. David Diaz-Ventura (ESP) - from #395 to unranked
9. Tomas Zib (CZE) - from #416 to unranked
10. Alun Jones (AUS) - from #445 to unranked

Top 10 fallers in the rankings:

1. Nicolas Coutelot (FRA) - from #281 to #1508 = -1227 positions
2. Robert Varga (HUN) - from #583 to #1806 = -1223 positions
3. Werner Eschauer (AUT) - from #490 to 1508 = -1018 positions
4. Jan Stancik (SVK) - from #403 to #1360 = -957 positions
5. Navdeep Singh (IND) - from #898 to #1799 = -901 positions
6. Gerald Melzer (AUT) - from #912 to #1813 = -901 positions
7. Diego Hartfield (ARG) - from #169 to #1052 = -883 positions
8. Andre Ghem (BRA) - from #228 to #1108 = -880 positions
9. Artur Chernov (RUS) - from #630 to #1482 = -852 positions
10. Kevin Botti (RSA) - from #930 to #1779 = -849 positions

Other "interesting" fallers in the rankings (not ranked within Top100 in 2008):

16. Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) - from #107 to #875 = -768 positions
37. Adrian Cruciat (ROM) - from #178 to #816 = -638 positions
45. Dusan Vemic (SRB) - from #238 to #831 = -593 positions
63. Martin Slana(e)r (AUT) - from #220 to #740 = -520 positions
67. Sebastien Grosjean (FRA) - from #170 to #678 = -508 positions
80. Thomas Johansson (SWE) - from #136 to #606 = -470 positions
137. Gary Lugassy (FRA) - from #273 to #629 = -356 positions
148. Aisam Ul-Haq Qureshi (PAK) - from #300 to #636 = -336 positions
150. Robin Haase (HOL) - from #116 to #451 = -335 positions
152. Luis Horna (PER) - from #108 to #442 = -334 positions

Top 10 players falling out of Top 100:

1. Marat Safin (RUS) - from #29 to unranked
2. Carlos Moya (ESP) - from #42 to #450 = -408 positions
3. Kei Nishikori (JPN) - from #63 to #420 = -357 positions
4. Agustin Calleri (ARG) - from #60 to #395 = -335 positions
5. Bobby Reynolds (USA) - from #70 to #334 = -264 positions
6. Vincent Spadea (USA) - from #76 to #295 = -219 positions
7. Denis Gremelmayr (GER) - from #83 to #238 = -155 positions
8. Gilles Muller (LUX) - from #95 to #248 = -153 positions
9. Nicolas Devilder (FRA) - from #73 to #226 = -153 positions
10. Nicolas Mahut (FRA) - from #94 to #217 = -123 positions

Top 10 players falling out / within of Top 50:

1. Marat Safin (RUS) - from #29 to unranked
2. Carlos Moya (ESP) - from #42 to #450 = -408 positions
3. Nicolas Kiefer (GER) - from #38 to #116 = -78 positions
4. Dmitry Tursunov (RUS) - from #22 to #89 = -67 positions
5. Mario Ancic (CRO) - from #36 to #95 = -59 positions
6. Igor Kunitsyn (RUS) - from #47 to #104 = -57 positions
7. David Nalbandian (ARG) - from #11 to #64 = -53 positions
8. Simone Bolelli (ITA) - from #41 to #93 = -52 positions
9. Rainer Schuettler (GER) - from #33 to #85 = -52 positions
10. Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) - from #37 to #88 = -51 positions

Top 5 players falling out / within of Top20:

1. David Nalbandian (ARG) - from #11 to #64 = -53 positions
2. James Blake (USA) - from #10 to #44 = -34 positions
3. Igor Andreev (RUS) - from #19 to #35 = -16 positions
4. Gilles Simon (FRA) - from #7 to #15 = -8 positions
5. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) - from #13 to #21 = -8 positions

Top 3 players falling out / within of Top10:

1. James Blake (USA) - from #10 to #44 = -34 positions
2. Gilles Simon (FRA) - from #7 to #15 = -8 positions
3. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) - from #6 to #10 = -4 positions

bjurra
12-07-2009, 07:28 PM
Maybe Marat asked the ATP to be removed from the rankings? That is what Henin did when she retired and WTA granted her wish.

Byrd
12-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Nadull be be topping this list next year.

Geo
12-07-2009, 08:02 PM
Did Diego Hartfield retire, or what? why is he almost out of the rankings? he was top 100 at some point right?

Horatio Caine
12-07-2009, 09:05 PM
Whatever happened to Bobby Reynolds? Given that he hasn't played since the summer I'm assuming that he has been injured? Thought he wasn't a bad player from some of the matches I saw of him, including in person.

bjurra
12-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Whatever happened to Bobby Reynolds? Given that he hasn't played since the summer I'm assuming that he has been injured? Thought he wasn't a bad player from some of the matches I saw of him, including in person.

His left wrist is injured. Dont know when he is coming back.

Action Jackson
12-08-2009, 04:11 AM
Hartfield had knee surgery, played a Futures event this year, but is coming back next season.

CooCooCachoo
12-08-2009, 07:43 AM
Good to hear Diego is coming back :dance:

Stelle
12-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Gulbis went from like 60 to 101, but i rekon he is gonna make a comeback in Australia, hopefully he doesn't get a really hard draw *crosses fingers*

claudine140
12-09-2009, 11:45 AM
90. Carlos Moya [ESP] (-421 positions) - from 42 to 463
not because he played badly but because of an injury!!!!

tennisphilia
12-09-2009, 06:32 PM
gulbis should be on that list too

why is gulbis most hated? because he's mega-rich?

kiwi10is
12-09-2009, 07:28 PM
Can anyone shed any light what's up with Haase? He should have had the knee surgery a long while ago. Is he not coming back or it will just take more time?

He entered Chennai with protected ranking :wavey: