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Who can end the year #1...

theseth1119
11-03-2009, 08:12 PM
Only Rogie, or Rafa too? Is there any chance Chokovic or Murray can end the year #1? If it's only Rogie, that's awesome. If Rafa can, can someone please enlighten me as to how he can end #1? Considering Rogie is about 1210 points ahead and both are defending Paris QF and neither is defending really anything at the YECS, what does Rafa have to do and what does Rogie have to fail to do for Rafa to end 2009 #1 and Rogie #2?

fsoica
11-03-2009, 08:15 PM
shut your mouth, take a pen and do the math by yourself...

Sapeod
11-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Here comes another badrep.

EDIT: I need to spread the love first :o

And stop saying Rogie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

superslam77
11-03-2009, 08:16 PM
Rogie is defending some points from Basel,QF from bercy and RR at Masters. 600-700 points??
Dull didn't play the Masters last year but he is defending a bercy final... i think.

Hello theRAFA btw

Sapeod
11-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Rogie is defending some points from Basel,QF from bercy and RR at Masters. 600-700 points??
Dull didn't play the Masters last year but he is defending a bercy final... i think.

Hello theRAFA btw
How can this joker be theRAFA??? :confused: He gone undercover or somethin'??????

superslam77
11-03-2009, 08:19 PM
How can this joker be theRAFA??? :confused: He gone undercover or somethin'??????


seth is evil=rafa is evil
theseth=theSETH=theRAFA

theseth1119
11-03-2009, 08:20 PM
No one answered my question though, is there a chance that Rafa can end #1 or is Rogie safe as #1 for 2009?

superslam77
11-03-2009, 08:21 PM
No one answered my question though, is there a chance that Rafa can end #1 or is Rogie safe as #1 for 2009?

doh Rafa has a very slim chance.

Har-Tru
11-03-2009, 08:23 PM
Destroy your computer, then you'll find your answer.

superslam77
11-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Destroy your computer, then you'll find your answer.

Someone saw too much Zoolander :devil:

Actually you had to say, the files are inside the computer :rolleyes:

theseth1119
11-03-2009, 08:25 PM
Destroy your computer, then you'll find your answer.

Lol funny you say that, due to my temper, I have had a history of destroying past computers, even had to get a new hard drive on this one. Seriously, though, from what some of you are saying, it looks like Rogie is practically safe to end the year #1.

Sapeod
11-03-2009, 08:29 PM
seth is evil=rafa is evil
theseth=theSETH=theRAFA
:eek: You might be right :scared:

theseth1119
11-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Wait a minute to compute last year's defended points were the points awarded doubled after 2007 for 2008 or after 2008 for this year? That could make it tougher to compute.

oranges
11-03-2009, 08:31 PM
Wait a minute to compute last year's defended points were the points awarded doubled after 2007 for 2008 or after 2008 for this year? That could make it tougher to compute.

Nothing a destroyed computer won't do in a jiffy

Sapeod
11-03-2009, 08:31 PM
Wait a minute to compute last year's defended points were the points awarded doubled after 2007 for 2008 or after 2008 for this year? That could make it tougher to compute.

Does not compute.

theseth1119
11-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Rogie has 950 (500 Basel title, 250 Paris QF, and 200 YEC RR).

Rafa has 250 (Paris QF).

A difference of 700.

I guess unless one wins the two titles and the other loses in the first round of each, Rogie's safe at #1, am I correct?

superslam77
11-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Rogie has 950 (500 Basel title, 250 Paris QF, and 200 YEC RR).

Rafa has 250 (Paris QF).

A difference of 700.

I guess unless one wins the two titles and the other loses in the first round of each, Rogie's safe at #1, am I correct?

Roger has to do pretty bad in next 3 events and Rafa has to win one and make a final(or something like that). However if Roger defends Basel and makes the SF or more in Bercy it's a done deal.

Midnight Ninja
11-03-2009, 08:54 PM
1. Points from 2008 don't matter in YE#1. We're talking of the race here.
2. If you would have actually bothered, this discussion is available in a much more helpful manner in the ATP Rankings Thread. GO HERE (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=135329&page=119)

n8
11-03-2009, 09:35 PM
Check out this thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=151845), it shows the race for #1 this year. As of today, Federer is 1055 points ahead of Rafa, with all his points from Basel counting towards his total. Federer is 3445 points ahead of Djokovic so only Federer and Nadal can finish number one. The maximum number of points Rafa can get before the end of the year is 1000(paris)+1500(Masters Cup)+Davis Cup = 2500 + Davis Cup. Davis Cup isn't many points so consider it 2500.

Federer will probably win Basel taking his lead to 1510 (1310 if he looses the final). There are too many possiblities to list, but Nadal will have to perform very well in Paris and the Masters Cup to take the year end number one. However, if Federer wins Basel then outperforms Nadal in Paris then he's got the year-end number one (excluding Davis Cup).

jcempire
11-03-2009, 10:31 PM
shut your mouth, take a pen and do the math by yourself...

:haha:
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:haha:

JimmyV
11-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Sweet, my bad rep put him into the red.

superslam77
11-03-2009, 11:19 PM
Sweet, my bad rep put him into the red.


:haha: :haha: :haha:
oh wait it Matches your Join:date 2006 and your 1,666 posts :scared:

Sunset of Age
11-03-2009, 11:47 PM
OP, babe, YES, Rafa is still able of catching the YE #1. Ever heard of doing maths??? :haha:

theseth1119
11-04-2009, 01:11 AM
Thanks for clarifying the points for me, seems like it's close to a done deal Rogie ends the year #1.

phelbyn
11-04-2009, 01:28 AM
No one answered my question though, is there a chance that Rafa can end #1 or is Rogie safe as #1 for 2009?

So sorry you ask a decent question and get a bunch of crap as an answer.

Simply put: Math says Roger should end the year #1. Both players have 500 points to defend from Basel (Roger) and Valencia (Nadal). Roger is playing Basel, Nadal is not playing Valencia.

Both players share QF points to defend in Paris. So that doesn't change the race at all.

Nadal did not play YEC, and Roger has very little to defend.

So basically Roger cannot play another tournament and Nadal will need to win Paris and YEC and something else.

It's not going to happen. The math speaks: Roger will more than likely end the year #1.

Not to mention that virtually all of Nadal's points to defend in 2010 come from January to May. Roger accomplished VERY little in that time. Roger's #1 should be pretty safe (I think) until Roland Garros.

phelbyn
11-04-2009, 01:29 AM
Check out this thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=151845), it shows the race for #1 this year. As of today, Federer is 1055 points ahead of Rafa, with all his points from Basel counting towards his total. Federer is 3445 points ahead of Djokovic so only Federer and Nadal can finish number one. The maximum number of points Rafa can get before the end of the year is 1000(paris)+1500(Masters Cup)+Davis Cup = 2500 + Davis Cup. Davis Cup isn't many points so consider it 2500.

Federer will probably win Basel taking his lead to 1510 (1310 if he looses the final). There are too many possiblities to list, but Nadal will have to perform very well in Paris and the Masters Cup to take the year end number one. However, if Federer wins Basel then outperforms Nadal in Paris then he's got the year-end number one (excluding Davis Cup).

Well put.

RafitoGoat
11-04-2009, 01:32 AM
Federer should have received 1000 bonus points for winning the most slams this year, that is the new rule that should be put inside the pages/chapters of the rule book next year in both ATP and WTA.

theseth1119
11-04-2009, 01:49 AM
So sorry you ask a decent question and get a bunch of crap as an answer.

Simply put: Math says Roger should end the year #1. Both players have 500 points to defend from Basel (Roger) and Valencia (Nadal). Roger is playing Basel, Nadal is not playing Valencia.

Both players share QF points to defend in Paris. So that doesn't change the race at all.

Nadal did not play YEC, and Roger has very little to defend.

So basically Roger cannot play another tournament and Nadal will need to win Paris and YEC and something else.

It's not going to happen. The math speaks: Roger will more than likely end the year #1.

Not to mention that virtually all of Nadal's points to defend in 2010 come from January to May. Roger accomplished VERY little in that time. Roger's #1 should be pretty safe (I think) until Roland Garros.

Thanks so much for clarifying it for me, yeah I do put up with a lot of crap on this site because of my intense interest in Roger Federer.

Yves.
11-04-2009, 05:41 AM
TheSeth, you are really getting on my nerves, mate... :mad: