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Andy King of Valencia....Can he double up in Paris? NO!

Andi-M
10-31-2009, 02:18 PM
Andy has arrived in Valencia :D

Draw:
[1] MURRAY, Andy GBR - [WC] GIMENO-TRAVER, Daniel ESP
MAYER, Leonardo ARG - ANDREEV, Igor RUS
MONTANES, Albert ESP - QUALIFIER
ALMAGRO, Nicolas ESP - [8] FERRER, David ESP
[4]VERDASCO, Fernando ESP - [WC] HERNANDEZ, Oscar ESP
TIPSAREVIC, Janko SRB - HANESCU, Victor ROU
QUALIFIER - LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP
QUALIFIER - [7] ROBREDO, Tommy ESP

[5] SIMON, Gilles FRA - KUNITSYN, Igor RUS
BERDYCH, Tomas CZE - MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA
FERRERO, Juan Carlos ESP - CUEVAS, Pablo URU
YOUZHNY, Mikhail RUS - [3] TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried FRA
[6] MONFILS, Gael FRA - [WC] GRANOLLERS, Marcel ESP
GARCIA-LOPEZ, Guillermo ESP - GREUL, Simon GER
MONACO, Juan ARG - VASSALLO ARGUELLO, Martin ARG
QUALIFIER - [2] DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS

Jess22
10-31-2009, 04:04 PM
:woohoo: Finally! been ages since he last played anyways Good luck Andy! :)

amdany
10-31-2009, 07:22 PM
he's back :D good luck Andy

Murraylicious
10-31-2009, 07:27 PM
Welcome Back Andy!!
Good luck :):worship:

Corey Feldman
11-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Gl Andy

good that he's back at last

Getta
11-02-2009, 07:56 PM
yeah, it's been a while

decrepitude
11-03-2009, 02:13 PM
This is a pretty good livestream if anybody needs one - http://es.justin.tv/deportes_tv_tdp/popout

Andi-M
11-03-2009, 03:28 PM
Cheers decrepitude. Cant wait to see the gorgeous Scot again!

MsTree
11-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Come on!!!!! :D

Another stream here http://www.fromsport.com/video-107371.html

Betty
11-03-2009, 06:52 PM
this is the andy i like to see:inlove:

gooooooooooooooooooooooo

scoobs
11-03-2009, 07:21 PM
Nice to see Andy back - a bit rusty but not too bad. He did seem to be noticing his back a bit, hopefully that's nothing to worry about though.

decrepitude
11-03-2009, 07:22 PM
The boy is back! :worship: 6-3 6-1

Seemed to have a bit of a problem with the back, but hopefully it was just a few twinges because it was the first match in quite a long time.

Jess22
11-03-2009, 07:27 PM
:worship: Great to see him back, hope the back is okay :)

amdany
11-03-2009, 07:36 PM
nice win :dance:

Sapeod
11-03-2009, 07:46 PM
Great win Andy. Well done, keep it up :yeah:

Andi-M
11-03-2009, 08:31 PM
Andy :hearts: Good job.

Turquoise
11-04-2009, 03:01 AM
Welcome back Andy! Missed you much.

roberthenman
11-04-2009, 03:02 AM
andy :yeah:

tedlesurfeur
11-04-2009, 07:41 PM
Should Andy have excellent season-ending results, I think he could finish the year as No.2 right?

MsTree
11-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Betty, your avi :hearts:

Hello Ted, fancy meeting you here! Stalker :tape: :lol:

According to El Burro's Race thread,http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=151845
Andy is 2765 pts behind Rafa ~ so it looks unlikely. But I don't know the points breakdown for the WTFs?

tedlesurfeur
11-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Betty, your avi :hearts:

Hello Ted, fancy meeting you here! Stalker :tape: :lol:

According to El Burro's Race thread,http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=151845
Andy is 2765 pts behind Rafa ~ so it looks unlikely. But I don't know the points breakdown for the WTFs?

Jeez, can't you stay where you belong :lol: I do *NOT* need your sarcasm down here :p You steal people's lovers and then you chase them off their forums :o :tape: :lol:


Ok, No.3 then !! Isn't the masters cup worth 1500 points?

MsTree
11-04-2009, 10:11 PM
My first post on MTF is in this forum somewhere, from 2006 or thereabouts :lol: So who's stalking who big boy? :hug:

So to finish the year at #2, Andy would need to win Valencia, Paris and the WTFs with Rafa picking up less than 235 points :eek: About as likely as me agreeing to your indecent proposal with Yavor :devil:

Andi-M
11-05-2009, 10:43 AM
:lol: No Andy will not end number 2, might get to 3 if Nole fails to defend WTF and he does well in next 3 tournies.

It dosent matter anyway, rankings 1,2,3 or 4 still mean your gonna face a tough QF in a slam these days so many good players now.

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 02:34 PM
My first post on MTF is in this forum somewhere, from 2006 or thereabouts :lol: So who's stalking who big boy? :hug:

So to finish the year at #2, Andy would need to win Valencia, Paris and the WTFs with Rafa picking up less than 235 points :eek: About as likely as me agreeing to your indecent proposal with Yavor :devil:

In total denial :rolleyes: You sooo want it. :devil: :lol:
I guess he can finish as No.3 then. I just want him to win a slam in 2010 now.

amdany
11-05-2009, 05:22 PM
Betty, your avi :hearts:Hello Ted, fancy meeting you here! Stalker :tape: :lol:

According to El Burro's Race thread,http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=151845
Andy is 2765 pts behind Rafa ~ so it looks unlikely. But I don't know the points breakdown for the WTFs?

I agree :hearts:

Ted, glad to see you here :D!, are you going to Bercy?

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 05:30 PM
I agree :hearts:

Ted, glad to see you here :D!, are you going to Bercy?

:hatoff: Hamdie.

I am !!! Are you ? :wavey:

amdany
11-05-2009, 05:34 PM
:hatoff: Hamdie.

I am !!! Are you ? :wavey:

:wavey:, on Tuesday only , so hopefully I'll see all of my faves :)

MsTree
11-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Hope you have fun in Paris guys! :)

Come on Andy! :D

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 06:44 PM
:wavey:, on Tuesday only , so hopefully I'll see all of my faves :)

You're meeting up with Fran then :wavey: oh, wait, do you know Fran? :confused:

Andi-M
11-05-2009, 07:54 PM
Andy is sucking real bad, set all vs Mayer :eek:

MsTree
11-05-2009, 08:12 PM
There's something not right about him, maybe he's come back too soon? Even at 80% fitness he should still win this match :)

amdany
11-05-2009, 08:13 PM
You're meeting up with Fran then :wavey: oh, wait, do you know Fran? :confused:

yep I know her:D

I hope Andy will break here, 3-2 for him, 0-30

phew finally...he won...a win is a win right?

MsTree
11-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Got there in the end :eek:

Good to get 60 wins in a season though :)

Andi-M
11-05-2009, 08:36 PM
Awful, i have swine flu at the moment and i feel more sick after this performance.

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 09:40 PM
I don't understand.. I mean.. Mayer ?? Please.. he should've won that match in two. I hope he's ok !! I want to see him in Bercy !!! I paid for that actually. As Misha isn't playing there, my hopes remain on seeing Murray, Novak and Kolya in the QFs in Bercy.

Maybe Murray wasn't pushing too hard today, he's saving energy for later on, that's why he was a bit too passive and lost a set .. (trying everything I can to bring comfort down here)

Turquoise
11-06-2009, 03:38 AM
Andy looked rusty in that match, but that's understandable. Probably underestimated his opponent a little, needs to be careful about lapses of concentration and complacency. He was perilously close to eating a bagel after finding himself down 0-5 in 2nd set - but this seemed to rouse his fighting spirit, good to see. But credit to Mayer who played some nice attacking tennis and superb volleys.

The conversion rate of all the breakpoint opportunities and other half chances (0-30) created could be better, but I reckon his game will get sharper with more matches under his belt. Bring on Paris and London.

scoobs
11-06-2009, 06:46 AM
Hopefully he will start to sharpen up now.

Andi-M
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Still feel terrible but Andy play not contributing this time.

Good job Andy :D GL in semis

MsTree
11-06-2009, 03:47 PM
Hope you're feeling better soon Andi-M! :hug:

scoobs
11-06-2009, 03:50 PM
I thought today was the first real glimpse of the Murray we know and love, in that second set.

tedlesurfeur
11-06-2009, 04:19 PM
Andy looked rusty in that match, but that's understandable. Probably underestimated his opponent a little, needs to be careful about lapses of concentration and complacency. He was perilously close to eating a bagel after finding himself down 0-5 in 2nd set - but this seemed to rouse his fighting spirit, good to see. But credit to Mayer who played some nice attacking tennis and superb volleys.

The conversion rate of all the breakpoint opportunities and other half chances (0-30) created could be better, but I reckon his game will get sharper with more matches under his belt. Bring on Paris and London.

He'd better reach the QFs in Bercy... tellin ya.. I want to see him.

Betty
11-06-2009, 05:17 PM
he won this is important for him for take the right rhythm on the balls imo

Andi-M
11-06-2009, 06:45 PM
Hope you're feeling better soon Andi-M! :hug:

thnx :hug:

Andy winning this weekend woluld help!!

Betty
11-06-2009, 06:48 PM
have u a flu rachel:hug:get well soon

Andi-M
11-07-2009, 12:25 PM
thx Betty :hug: Im getting better slowly.

What does everyone think of Nando? :eek:

tedlesurfeur
11-07-2009, 03:50 PM
thx Betty :hug: Im getting better slowly.

What does everyone think of Nando? :eek:

He didn't convince so far. Moreover, Murray knows how to play him. He leads 6-1 their H2H. Aside from the AO where the spaniard was on fire, Murray was never really troubled by Verdasco.
Of course, everything is possible, I mean, Verdasco could play unbelievable today, who knows, but I think Murray has more chances.

Betty
11-07-2009, 09:01 PM
forgot the second set

and take the final:banana::D

Andi-M
11-07-2009, 09:05 PM
YaY Murray :kiss:

Very good 1st set, well done Murray, GL 4 tommorow my sig needs updating!!

decrepitude
11-07-2009, 09:22 PM
:woohoo:

scoobs
11-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Well done Andy - tough one!

tedlesurfeur
11-07-2009, 09:33 PM
You're all happy and bubbly, but that was a terrible match from Murray. He really need to improve his first serve percentage and cut short the errors. He was struggling. I don't know why. Maybe he needs to actually get more matches under his belt.

The positive things are that he managed to win even if he didn't play well, which is the mark of champions, like Federer, Nadal or Djokovic. Moreover, he had an excellent second serve, and won about 75% of his points on his second serve. He managed to hang in there in tough times, and it's actually his mental strength that got him to get the upper hand in the third set, while Verdasco collapsed.

I really hope he will play better in Paris Bercy, because I really want to see him in the quarterfinals.
However, tomorrow, he's facing my No.1 player, so unfortunately, I won't be cheering for him for once.

I just hope for a good match, hopefully three sets, with a lot of rallys and nice shots. I hope Youzhny won't choke and that Murray will improve his level. Looking forward to tomorrow's match. Good night to you all. :hatoff:

scoobs
11-07-2009, 09:38 PM
It wasn't terrible. It wasn't magnificent, but the strategy vs Verdasco was correct and he executed it well enough to get the win in spite of an ugly second set, and some parts of his game still not back up to their best.

Andi-M
11-07-2009, 09:48 PM
You're all happy and bubbly, but that was a terrible match from Murray. He really need to improve his first serve percentage and cut short the errors. He was struggling. I don't know why. Maybe he needs to actually get more matches under his belt.

The positive things are that he managed to win even if he didn't play well, which is the mark of champions, like Federer, Nadal or Djokovic. Moreover, he had an excellent second serve, and won about 75% of his points on his second serve. He managed to hang in there in tough times, and it's actually his mental strength that got him to get the upper hand in the third set, while Verdasco collapsed.

I really hope he will play better in Paris Bercy, because I really want to see him in the quarterfinals.
However, tomorrow, he's facing my No.1 player, so unfortunately, I won't be cheering for him for once.

I just hope for a good match, hopefully three sets, with a lot of rallys and nice shots. I hope Youzhny won't choke and that Murray will improve his level. Looking forward to tomorrow's match. Good night to you all. :hatoff:

This wasn't terrible, Murray has won uglier than that. He was OK. Murray will never look like a flashy shot maker next to Verdasco so he finds other ways of winning mainly good defense and taking ball early when he has the opportunity. He did this well in 1st set, 2nd set :eek:, but in 3rd set felt Andy was a bit passive, and duly Nando handed it to him. Had Nando been more patient maybe it would have forced a different more attacking gameplan out of Murray we'll never know cos he didnt need to in the end.

Your right about his 1st serve lol no idea what has happened to that shot, at Queens and Wimbledon it was firing beautifully since then its been well crap :shrug:

Dont worry about Bercy I think Andy can make QFs there so you can see him!

tedlesurfeur
11-07-2009, 10:04 PM
I hope you're right. I really want to see him again. I saw him last year already :worship:
I know it wasn't that bad today, I said "terrible" because I wanted to enhance my points :lol: and in a way, to me at least, he played really bad compared to what I know he's capable of doing. That's why.
I hope everyone can enjoy tomorrow's match.

Andi-M
11-07-2009, 10:29 PM
Lucky you seeing Andy every year!! His draw in Paris is OK, so he should make it and if he does make QFs it'll prob be against Potro :eek: lol
Good luck to both men tommorow..although i want a slightly different outcome to you :angel:

MsTree
11-08-2009, 12:27 AM
GL 4 tommorow my sig needs updating!!

I always think of your sig when he's in a final :D

roberthenman
11-08-2009, 04:11 AM
Take the title Andy :rocker:

tedlesurfeur
11-08-2009, 08:55 AM
Lucky you seeing Andy every year!! His draw in Paris is OK, so he should make it and if he does make QFs it'll prob be against Potro :eek: lol
Good luck to both men tommorow..although i want a slightly different outcome to you :angel:

It's ok. I'm happy both of them are in the final :D May the better player win, and I'm looking forward to a good match :D
ps : Yeah !! I want to see Murray beat DelPo in Bercy !! Please, may this come true !! haha.

MsTree
11-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Come on Andy! :D

Betty
11-08-2009, 02:42 PM
unreal:drool:

PLEASE SOMEONE HAS LS??????????????????????

MsTree
11-08-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm watching on Sky but try one of these Betty :)
http://www.fromsport.com/c-4.html

MsTree
11-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Well done Andy :D:D:D

tedlesurfeur
11-08-2009, 03:30 PM
Andy played much better today !! It was very pleasant to watch !! He has some good reactions there. Youzhny didn't play such a good match, but Andy was so solid.
I'm happy for both players. Misha is returning to the top 20 now :worship: and Andy got confidence before the two final events :worship:

amdany
11-08-2009, 03:37 PM
:banana: well done Andy!

Andi-M
11-08-2009, 03:58 PM
Sexy play from Andy today. Well done!xx

Senor Murray is King of Valencia :woohoo:

roberthenman
11-08-2009, 03:59 PM
Congrats Andy :yeah:

tedlesurfeur
11-08-2009, 05:09 PM
I understand why some people have a lot of posts :lol: Anyway, Murray's draw in Bercy is indeed not too rough until a probable quarterfinal blockbuster against recent US open champion Juan Martin Del Potro. Murray has a good chance of avenging what I condider quite a tough loss in Flushing Meadows. Hopefully he will prove me correct and advance to the semifinals. DelPotro hasn't been quite in form lately anyway (a couple of disturbing lossed in the past few months). I wonder how the argentine is going to cope with his grand slam success from now on.
Murray and Djokovic could be the leaders of this end of season. I hope Andy can keep this level of play for Bercy, and get even better for the London Finals.

Betty
11-08-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm watching on Sky but try one of these Betty :)
http://www.fromsport.com/c-4.html

thanks:hug: i was so concentrated that i forgot to say it before

well done:DDDDDDDDDDDd

scoobs
11-08-2009, 05:44 PM
Nice one Andy :yeah:

Andi-M
11-08-2009, 05:54 PM
Paris Draw

Federer (1) Bye
Benneteau - Petzschner
Qualifier - Wawrinka
Bye (15) Monfils
Cilic (12) Bye
A.Beck - Qualifier
Kohlschreiber -Seppi
Bye (7) Verdasco

Murray (4) Bye
Blake - Santoro
Mathieu- Troicki
Bye (13) Stepanek
Gonzalez (10) Bye
Qualifier - Isner
Qualifier - Safin
Bye (5) Del Potro :eek:

Davydenko (6) Bye
Llodra - Becker
Cuevas - Karlovic
Bye (9) Soderling
Haas (16) Bye
F.Lopez - Qualifier
Chardy - Monaco
Bye (3) Djokovic

Tsonga (8) Bye
Hanescu - Montanes
Grosjean - Ljubicic
Bye (11) Simon
Robredo (14) Bye
Berdych - Qualifier
Almagro - Qualifier
Bye (2) Nadal

Does anyone know if Alex will be in Paris with Andy?

Corey Feldman
11-08-2009, 06:04 PM
Nadal and his pathetic draws

starting to hate this sport

Jess22
11-08-2009, 09:27 PM
:worship: Another title, saw bits of the match much better play than start of the week :yeah: hopefully he can win a few rounds at Bercy :)

Turquoise
11-09-2009, 03:59 AM
Congratulations Andy on winning 6th title of the year! :worship: Played himself nicely into form this week, shook off some of that rust and got better with each match. Never fails to awe me when he produces spectacular winners on the run. And never ceases to amuse me when he toys with his opponent. Well done!

Hope any lingering discomfort and pain will be eased this week in Paris. Good luck!

scoobs
11-10-2009, 06:29 AM
So Andy will kick off his Paris campaign on Wednesday against James Blake, who saw of Fabrice Santoro in the first round on Monday.

16681
11-10-2009, 06:57 PM
A belated Congrats to Andy on his recent Tournament win :D I watched the SF and the Final on TV. I really hated it when Juan got a Slam before Andy :ras: Of course, I didn't want The Fed to win yet ANOTHER U.S. Open so I had to put up with Juan :rolleyes: And I would be really shocked if Blake gives Andy any problems at all--of course--I have been shocked before :eek:

Andi-M
11-10-2009, 08:10 PM
Yay match is on at 19:45 match i can watch it :D

Betty
11-11-2009, 10:07 PM
first set is gone:D
well,good serve,mug moment in the contro break and a lot of mistakes from blake:o

amdany
11-11-2009, 11:21 PM
3-3 in the 3rd set and it's 1:20 am :help:....

...and it's finally over :o, glad he won but he'll be soooo exhausted tomorrow...

scoobs
11-11-2009, 11:57 PM
Finally...

That was a stuggle.

I have to say, I suspect he can beat Steppa but looking at him, he seems to be stuggling physically and this scheduling won't have helped....I don't see him getting past Delpo or Gonzo in the QFs even if he does best Steppa.

Andi-M
11-12-2009, 12:23 AM
Well done Andy. Good luck against sexy.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 01:09 AM
he seems to be stuggling physically and this scheduling won't have helped....I don't see him getting past Delpo or Gonzo in the QFs even if he does best Steppa.same here, then again neither of those 2 have looked great either

i was sure he'd never beat Verdasco last week and he found a way, so maybe he could pull it out of the bag again

Turquoise
11-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Can't believe I stayed up all night until 5am to watch an increasingly bad-tempered Scot get the better of an inspired Blake. It must be love or pure madness. I just hope my sleep-deprived mind will still be awake to watch him this evening. More important, I hope he recovers sufficiently to run his usual 1000 miles on court against Stepanek tonight and get the victory. Keep going Andy!

MurrayFan1
11-12-2009, 11:47 AM
Needs to be better tonight Andy! It was a bit of an arduous task watching all that haha.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 05:12 PM
won first set 6-1

then went to sleep, waste of space no hoper.

Betty
11-12-2009, 05:18 PM
unreal:bigcry:

now show yr balls:armed:

tedlesurfeur
11-12-2009, 05:27 PM
Oh please, they had him start his match at 11pm last night and it went three sets.. finished at around 2 am. It kind of figures.
I'm so pissed at the scheduling. Oh well.

He's clearly staying on court because he's not one for retiring. He's a pro.

Betty
11-12-2009, 05:28 PM
what happen between 1 set and second?
yes maybe he was tired..also after valencia

no more used at all those matches:sad:

Betty
11-12-2009, 05:29 PM
thk radeck!

tedlesurfeur
11-12-2009, 05:30 PM
Ha ha ha, he still manages to win a third game. That's clearly the sign of a champion.

tedlesurfeur
11-12-2009, 05:32 PM
Well, now the organisers won't have Murray in the quarterfinals..Too bad for them.
I'm so pissed I won't be able to see Murray tomorrow.

Oh wait, two games points to go to 4-5.. we never know.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
Ha ha ha, he still manages to win a third game. That's clearly the sign of a champion.:lol:

Betty
11-12-2009, 05:35 PM
better lose at 64:o

Betty
11-12-2009, 05:37 PM
:sad::(

scoobs
11-12-2009, 05:44 PM
Rest up for London now Andy.

He looked dead on his feet today.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 05:47 PM
dead on his feet after 7 matches in about 2 months

Nole, Steppa, Nadal, Cilic and the likes keep rolling however having played week after week

tedlesurfeur
11-12-2009, 05:48 PM
I'm so disappointed at the scheduling; not at Murray. He was fantastic, still trying to fight and win points on court.. and winning 4 games in the third !! Radek shouldn't be so pleased with himself. He will get demolished now.

Andy :crying2:

scoobs
11-12-2009, 05:52 PM
dead on his feet after 7 matches in about 2 months

Nole, Steppa, Nadal, Cilic and the likes keep rolling however having played week after week
no, dead on his feet after not finishing his match until nearly 2am and not getting to bed until gone 4, when he was due to start playing at 8.30pm - i'm not surprised it totally fucked him over today, and Stepanek played well in the last two sets and took full advantage.

Shit happens, he caught a bad break, he won last week, he'll be fine for London, this doesn't need such enthusiastic despair.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 05:59 PM
scoobs he played crap last week, he played crap last night, and whatever reason he really lost today - he played crap

in London he is gonna get tanked by players that are levels up from anyone he's played these last 2 weeks (verdasco aside obviously)

having said that, if he gets Federer in his group that is at least 1 win on the board

scoobs
11-12-2009, 06:00 PM
scoobs he played crap last week, he played crap last night, and whatever reason he really lost today - he played crap

in London he is gonna get tanked by players that are levels up from anyone he's played these last 2 weeks (verdasco aside obviously)

having said that, if he gets Federer in his group that is at least 1 win on the board
we'll see.

the only thing I would say is that in spite of his success in 2009, I think his game has gone backward a bit from the US Open level in 2008.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 06:01 PM
ive not seen anything go so far backwards since Marty McFly travelled from 1985 to 1955 in Back to the Future II

scoobs
11-12-2009, 06:04 PM
ive not seen anything go so far backwards since Marty McFly travelled from 1985 to 1955 in Back to the Future II
i wouldn't go that far. but i think he does try and use his legs and his defense to win him matches more than he was doing back in that period, and i don't think that's good long-term.

Corey Feldman
11-12-2009, 06:05 PM
should have fired that f'en team after RG like i said

his game has been garbage and its not gotten any better

Jess22
11-12-2009, 06:08 PM
:lol: Hopefully he goes forward next year, I just don't think still after all that has happened this year that he's actually looking at his game and taking it forwards we'll see after off-season I guess. Anyways I'm glad he's not gone too far in Bercy he can get rested for London, hope he plays well there :)

scoobs
11-12-2009, 06:30 PM
I hope he does look at his game because I think the emphasis on his fitness can only bring so many returns and I'm not sure there's too much more that that can deliver that it hasn't already. I think the off season emphasis this year should be less time training and more time on court retooling his game.

Andi-M
11-13-2009, 11:20 AM
Tanked cos Andy wants to win the real French Open ...:p

London will be good. If he gets his 'nice' assed kicked by everyone than thats good because it will hurt him and FORCE him to alter his game.

I thought the loss to Cilic might have done something to him but I think he blames injury rather than his gameplan but it was a mixture of both.

Anyway Murray always said he wants to be no 1 in the world and WHEN he drops to 5 he will HOPEFULLY realise that he is going in the WRONG direction and has do things a little differently.

Saying that I still think the way he plays will be good enough to keep top 5 cos nando, tsonga, soderling, davydenko roddick too inconsistant.

Were criticising him after winning 6 titles in a season. We're a tough crowd.

Jess22
11-13-2009, 05:25 PM
:lol: So win or lose all matches, London can only be good :p Looking forward to watching anyways

tedlesurfeur
11-14-2009, 08:21 PM
I will second that. May he win though. :hatoff:

decrepitude
11-16-2009, 10:40 AM
Just to hark back to Paris - interesting words from the Paris Tournament Director, in The Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article6917647.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2

Murray attracts praise in defeat

Jean-Francois Caujolle, tournament director of the BNP Paribas Masters, singled out Andy Murray for special praise at his end-of-event review and disclosed that next year there could be a dramatic change to the format in Paris. There is a powerful case, Caujolle believes, for the tournament to become a 32 rather than 48 man draw - "for it is quite normal that the draws become progressively smaller in order to arrive towards the Masters where there are only eight players."

He said Murray had been a victim of the current numbers and the consequent pressure it places on scheduling with only one court at the Palais Omnisport of a standard required for an event of this prestige. "[Murray] ended one match on Wednesday at 1.45am and there had been a real problem with the scheduling that day because we had six matches to play on he Centre Court," Caujolle said. The problem had been exacerbated by Marat Safin's three set loss to Juan Martin Del Potro, after which there was an extended retirement celebration for the Russian that put another spanner in the works.

"The next day Murray had to play on Court No 1 (against Radek Stepanek) and sincerely I believe he would not have lost that match if it had been on the Centre. He was a victim of those problems we have with a tournament with 48 players. He was extremely decent and said nothing about it. He just said the other player was better than him."

Caujolle revealed that his plans for a reduction in draw size would be put to the ATP Board next week. He also declared that an ATP 250 tournament would be scheduled in the same week as Paris next year - "so we are not only guaranteeing the existing jobs of the players but creating new ones," he said. "I trust it will be possible."

amdany
11-16-2009, 03:57 PM
I agree with Caujolle here, I think Andy would have won against Radek considering the fact he finished his match at 2 am... but the thing is it was a poor scheduling from them too, they should have put the Safin- Del Potro match on Tuesday instead of Wednesday...but that's my opinion and it's in the past now so...

tedlesurfeur
11-16-2009, 05:33 PM
I agree with Caujolle here, I think Andy would have won against Radek considering the fact he finished his match at 2 am... but the thing is it was a poor scheduling from them too, they should have put the Safin- Del Potro match on Tuesday instead of Wednesday...but that's my opinion and it's in the past now so...

I concur. That's why I was so pissed off.

duong
11-18-2009, 07:05 AM
Hello :)

I've watched Murray in Valencia and Paris and was puzzled by him looking as suffering again and again, seemingly inguinal fold or thigh, I don't know, but he had a suffering face many times between points.

But yet it didn't prevent him from playing points correctly and he didn't ask for injury time-outs.

Yet I'm puzzled about that and surprised nobody talks about it : what's this problem ?

tedlesurfeur
11-18-2009, 05:02 PM
Hello :)

I've watched Murray in Valencia and Paris and was puzzled by him looking as suffering again and again, seemingly inguinal fold or thigh, I don't know, but he had a suffering face many times between points.

But yet it didn't prevent him from playing points correctly and he didn't ask for injury time-outs.

Yet I'm puzzled about that and surprised nobody talks about it : what's this problem ?

No, Valencia was his firt tournament since the injury. The fact he actually won it is truly awesome.
Furthermore, the level he reached in Valencia and Paris with so few matches under his belt is quite impressive. With almost no preparation, Andy can win anything.
In Paris, he partly (mainly, in my opinion) lost his match because of a bad scheduling / order of play.
The tournament organiser said he was sorry about their not having more tennis courts in Bercy.

duong
11-18-2009, 09:58 PM
No, Valencia was his firt tournament since the injury. The fact he actually won it is truly awesome.
Furthermore, the level he reached in Valencia and Paris with so few matches under his belt is quite impressive. With almost no preparation, Andy can win anything.
In Paris, he partly (mainly, in my opinion) lost his match because of a bad scheduling / order of play.
The tournament organiser said he was sorry about their not having more tennis courts in Bercy.

I understand that, but my question was only about what he suffers about : I've seen him suffering a lot about his leg in his matches since Valencia, and I cannot be the only one who has seen that, it was so obvious :shrug:

what's this problem ?

scoobs
11-19-2009, 06:59 AM
I understand that, but my question was only about what he suffers about : I've seen him suffering a lot about his leg in his matches since Valencia, and I cannot be the only one who has seen that, it was so obvious :shrug:

what's this problem ?
I gather he had a little bit of a niggle around his groin - just a bit of pain from overexerting it on his comeback. But it was nothing serious and he expects to be fine for London next week.

duong
11-19-2009, 10:18 AM
I gather he had a little bit of a niggle around his groin - just a bit of pain from overexerting it on his comeback. But it was nothing serious and he expects to be fine for London next week.

thank you : it's seldom I can see a player having a suffering face after some points so often in a match, and repeatedly for two weeks.

I just found it very strange :shrug: