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6'1 is too small nowadays???

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-13-2009, 08:50 PM
with players like Del Potro, Cilic, mon-fils all proving that big guys can also be great athletes

and with the huge serve advantage you can get with height

player like berdych, soderling- these were mentally weak players who played well on their day and were considered a "possible" danger

if they get the mental aspect right- are they just too "evolved" for the smallers guys who are only 5'11 to 6'1

the ideal height used to be 6'1

now that 6'4 guys are running like 6'1 guys, and that the bigger athelets are simply blowing the smaller guys off court- is it time to reevaluate what ideal height should be

Murray seems like he is the perfect size for the new generation

6'3
great first serve
amazing ground strokes
great athelete

is 6'3 the new ideal?

Certinfy
10-13-2009, 08:55 PM
I guess being 6'3" or a little over would be ideal now, but still atm i don't think it's a huge positive.

Har-Tru
10-13-2009, 09:02 PM
Another sign of the current decline of tennis.

Sapeod
10-13-2009, 09:04 PM
no.

close thread.

Nathaliia
10-13-2009, 09:05 PM
Seven inches is perfectly acceptable for me, then again, probably we are talking about other things.

Burrow
10-13-2009, 09:05 PM
No.

And 6'4'' guys aren't running like 6'1'' guys, just wait a few years and observe Del Potro and Cilic's movement becoming more and more laboured and how injury prone they become.

Voo de Mar
10-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p

Har-Tru
10-13-2009, 09:30 PM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p

Hear, hear! :worship:

Down with the Imperial System imperialism!!!

Roddickominator
10-13-2009, 09:32 PM
Federer is 6'1 and serves better than any of those guys.

Agreed that guys like Del Potro and Cilic will slow down as years go on....we'll see if they improve their serves enough to make up for it.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-13-2009, 09:48 PM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p


6'1 = 185cm Federer, Nadal, Sampras

6'2= 188cm Djokovic, Roddick*

6'3= 190cm Murray

6'4= 193cm Monfils

6'5= 196cm Berdych

6'6= 198cm Del-potro, Cilic

6'9= 206cm Isner

6'10= 208cm Karlovic

*taken from the atp site

Black Adam
10-13-2009, 10:01 PM
6'1 = 185cm Federer, Nadal, Sampras

6'2= 188cm Djokovic, Roddick*

6'3= 190cm Murray

6'4= 193cm Monfils

6'5= 196cm Berdych

6'6= 198cm Del-potro, Cilic

6'9= 206cm Isner

6'10= 208cm Karlovic

*taken from the atp site
Roddick is more like 187 whilst I recon Djokovic is actually 6'3 today. And by the way 6'3 actually means 191cm

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-13-2009, 10:07 PM
Roddick is more like 187 whilst I recon Djokovic is actually 6'3 today. And by the way 6'3 actually means 191cm

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx

^i would just leave it at that, but i actually used a calculator before and had 191cm for 6'3 ;) so i individually had to change the numbers because the atp site listed 6'3 as 190

star
10-13-2009, 10:08 PM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p

Cause we like it :banana: :banana:

And cups and quarts and ounces and pounds too. :p

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-13-2009, 10:16 PM
Players in the top 100 who are 6'1 and below


Search for player
Player Birthdate Height Weight Rank
Rafael Nadal 3-Jun-86 185 85 2
Pablo Cuevas 1-Jan-86 180 73 45
Oscar Hernandez 10-Apr-78 180 70 76
Lleyton Hewitt 24-Feb-81 180 77 23
David Nalbandian 1-Jan-82 180 79 17
Florent Serra 28-Feb-81 180 77 72
Gilles Simon 27-Dec-84 180 65 10
Dudi Sela 4-Apr-85 175 66 44
Paolo Lorenzi 15-Dec-81 182 76 90
Yen-Hsun Lu 14-Aug-83 180 67 70
Paul-Henri Mathieu 12-Jan-82 185 74 35
Jurgen Melzer 22-May-81 182 75 43
Ivo Minar 21-May-84 182 85 73
Juan Monaco 29-Mar-84 185 76 28
Albert Montanes 26-Nov-80 175 70 39
David Ferrer 2-Apr-82 175 72 19
Juan Carlos Ferrero 12-Feb-80 182 72 21
Philipp Petzschner 24-Mar-84 185 70 78
Bjorn Phau 4-Oct-79 175 70 93
Fabio Fognini 24-May-87 177 74 66
Maximo Gonzalez 20-Jul-83 175 70 60
Fabrice Santoro 9-Dec-72 177 74 49
Rainer Schuettler 25-Apr-76 180 70 99
Janko Tipsarevic 22-Jun-84 180 80 46
Radek Stepanek 27-Nov-78 185 75 16
Dmitry Tursunov 12-Dec-82 185 81 59
Mikhail Youzhny 25-Jun-82 182 72 32
Martin Vassallo Arguello 10-Feb-80 185 80 52
Stanislas Wawrinka 28-Mar-85 182 79 22
Tommy Robredo 1-May-82 180 75 15
Olivier Rochus 18-Jan-81 165 59 81
Christophe Rochus 15-Dec-78 170 68 88
Michael Russell 1-May-78 172 72 96
Wayne Odesnik 21-Nov-85 180 77 94
Richard Gasquet 18-Jun-86 185 75 57
Frederico Gil 24-Mar-85 177 70 77
Daniel Gimeno-Traver 7-Aug-85 185 77 91
Robby Ginepri 7-Oct-82 182 79 65
Fernando Gonzalez 29-Jul-80 182 81 12
Simon Greul 13-Apr-81 185 80 61
Nicolas Almagro 21-Aug-85 182 81 29
Igor Andreev 14-Jul-83 182 80 40
Marcos Baghdatis 17-Jun-85 182 80 87
Karol Beck 3-Apr-82 180 74 74
Benjamin Becker 16-Jun-81 177 79 38
Julien Benneteau 20-Dec-81 177 77 33
Marcos Daniel 4-Jul-78 180 79 84
Steve Darcis 13-Mar-84 177 73 89
Nikolay Davydenko 2-Jun-81 177 70 8
James Blake 28-Dec-79 185 83 26
Simone Bolelli 8-Oct-85 182 79 58
Evgeny Korolev 14-Feb-88 185 81 54
Andrey Golubev 22-Jul-87 185 72 62
Kevin Kim 26-Jul-78 180 75 95
Daniel Koellerer 17-Aug-83 180 78 56
Philipp Kohlschreiber 16-Oct-83 177 70 24

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/player/find?query=&birthdate_from=&birthdate_to=&height_from=155&height_to=185&height_in=cm&weight_from=&weight_to=&weight_in=kg&nationality=All&rank_from=1&rank_to=100&hand_right=on&hand_left=on



players in the top 100 who are over 6'1 (185cm)

Player Birthdate Height Weight Rank
Jan Hernych 7-Jul-79 190 83 63
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 17-Apr-85 187 90 7
Ivan Ljubicic 19-Mar-79 193 86 37
Feliciano Lopez 20-Sep-81 187 85 41
Florian Mayer 5-Oct-83 190 81 79
Gael Monfils 1-Sep-86 193 80 14
Andy Murray 15-May-87 190 79 3
Viktor Troicki 10-Feb-86 193 85 31
Mardy Fish 9-Dec-81 187 81 48
Tommy Haas 3-Apr-78 187 88 18
Victor Hanescu 21-Jul-81 198 85 27
John Isner 26-Apr-85 205 107 42
Mischa Zverev 22-Aug-87 190 80 67
Fernando Verdasco 15-Nov-83 187 81 9
Kristof Vliegen 22-Jun-82 193 75 92
Robin Söderling 14-Aug-84 190 81 11
Marat Safin 27-Jan-80 193 88 86
Andreas Seppi 21-Feb-84 190 70 50
Potito Starace 14-Jul-81 187 84 75
Sam Querrey 7-Oct-87 198 90 25
Andy Roddick 30-Aug-82 187 88 6
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez 4-Jun-83 187 81 51
Marc Gicquel 30-Mar-77 187 75 71
Marcel Granollers 12-Apr-86 190 76 68
Ernests Gulbis 30-Aug-88 190 76 80
Jose Acasuso 20-Oct-82 190 86 47
Mario Ancic 30-Mar-84 195 81 82
Andreas Beck 5-Feb-86 190 85 36
Tomas Berdych 17-Sep-85 195 90 20
Paul Capdeville 2-Apr-83 190 78 98
Jeremy Chardy 12-Feb-87 187 75 34
Juan Ignacio Chela 30-Aug-79 190 75 97
Marco Chiudinelli 10-Sep-81 187 79 83
Marin Cilic 28-Sep-88 195 79 13
Juan Martin Del Potro 23-Sep-88 195 78 5
Novak Djokovic 22-May-87 187 80 4
Ivo Karlovic 28-Feb-79 208 104 30
Robert Kendrick 15-Nov-79 190 86 85
Horacio Zeballos 27-Apr-85 187 78 55

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/player/find?query=&birthdate_from=&birthdate_to=&height_from=186&height_to=220&height_in=cm&weight_from=&weight_to=&weight_in=kg&nationality=All&rank_from=1&rank_to=100&hand_right=on&hand_left=on

*list is not complete- for example the search refuses to recognize Federer even though he is exactly 185!--- annoying to say the least

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-13-2009, 10:26 PM
players in the top 20 under 6ft

Player Birthdate Height Weight Rank
David Nalbandian 1-Jan-82 180 79 17
Gilles Simon 27-Dec-84 180 65 10
David Ferrer 2-Apr-82 175 72 19
Tommy Robredo 1-May-82 180 75 15
Nikolay Davydenko 2-Jun-81 177 70 8

players in the top 20 who are between 6'0 and 6'1

Player Birthdate Height Weight Rank
Rafael Nadal 3-Jun-86 185 85 2
Radek Stepanek 27-Nov-78 185 75 16
Fernando Gonzalez 29-Jul-80 182 81 12
+federer


players in the top 20 over 6'1

Player Birthdate Height Weight Rank
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 17-Apr-85 187 90 7
Gael Monfils 1-Sep-86 193 80 14
Andy Murray 15-May-87 190 79 3
Tommy Haas 3-Apr-78 187 88 18
Fernando Verdasco 15-Nov-83 187 81 9
Robin Söderling 14-Aug-84 190 81 11
Andy Roddick 30-Aug-82 187 88 6
Marin Cilic 28-Sep-88 195 79 13
Juan Martin Del Potro 23-Sep-88 195 78 5
Novak Djokovic 22-May-87 187 80 4

Burrow
10-13-2009, 10:36 PM
:lol: Djokovic is not 6'3''. He's a weak 6'2'' at best.

Ichiban1920
10-13-2009, 10:46 PM
The only 6-4 player ever to run like a 6-1 player was Safin before the injuries. Del Mugro and Cilic don't even come compare.

Mug thread by a mug poster.

Burrow
10-13-2009, 11:10 PM
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pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-14-2009, 12:08 AM
The only 6-4 player ever to run like a 6-1 player was Safin before the injuries. Del Mugro and Cilic don't even come compare.

Mug thread by a mug poster.

Lrn2atp asshole

Monfils is 6'4 and he ran much better than mr. one slam wonder, and one slam handed to him on a plate by Fed (who only lost because he exhausted himself in 2004)

Sapeod
10-14-2009, 12:11 AM
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God? lmao.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-14-2009, 12:11 AM
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granted. he was no Nalbandian, but the dude sure has charisma- i bet his bed has a few stories

TMJordan
10-14-2009, 12:13 AM
Roddick is more like 187 whilst I recon Djokovic is actually 6'3 today. And by the way 6'3 actually means 191cm

Jesus. Some people are stupid. Djokovic is not 6'3 in high heels.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-14-2009, 12:26 AM
ptfjDZ2JBVg&feature=fvw

its a love hate thing with safin

sometimes i think he shoulda ruled the world

other times i think his forehand was always suspect
mentality is 99% of the battle
and his injuries stopped a promising career anyway

but. he'll be missed.

Lee
10-14-2009, 12:34 AM
Jesus. Some people are stupid. Djokovic is not 6'3 in high heels.

This is Murray and Djokovic standing right next to each other. :shrug: If Murray is 6'3" then Djokovic should be 6'3" too.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=205431&stc=1&d=1255476765

Ozone
10-14-2009, 12:37 AM
Yes, unless you want to be a challenger tour legend. Then 6' 1" is way too tall

Sapeod
10-14-2009, 12:41 AM
ptfjDZ2JBVg&feature=fvw

its a love hate thing with safin

sometimes i think he shoulda ruled the world

other times i think his forehand was always suspect
mentality is 99% of the battle
and his injuries stopped a promising career anyway

but. he'll be missed.
MARAT FANBOY ALERT! MARAT FANBOY ALERT!

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
10-14-2009, 12:47 AM
http://www.fanatik.ro/mediaLibrary/2009/09/31667-federer-djokovic.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2740428942_5894891d82.jpg?v=0


jokes is 6'2

camera angles can be misleading

tennishero
10-14-2009, 01:03 AM
AUUvBXeXlJI

murray does that for breakfast.

Snowwy
10-14-2009, 01:18 AM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p

I know, Im not sure why we don't use nanometers, just this of the accuracy. :o

crude oil
10-14-2009, 01:28 AM
federer is a tad taller than 6-1 but not quite 6-2. he is taller than both sampras and nadal but shorter than roddick/jokes.

tennishero
10-14-2009, 01:31 AM
Why in some places feet is a unit of length? Centimeters are more accurate :p

i agree, i think they only use that in the UK and USA, its really pointless.

Corey Feldman
10-14-2009, 01:58 AM
the only man who won 2 GS's this year was 6'1 as far as i can see

thanks

stebs
10-14-2009, 02:29 AM
There are advantages and disadvantages to extra height. Over a course of time the average height of top players will continue to rise as it has done in the paqst but it's not a sudden leap to needing to be a beast right now specifically. Just some players like that are doing well.

Clay Death
10-14-2009, 02:47 AM
There are advantages and disadvantages to extra height. Over a course of time the average height of top players will continue to rise as it has done in the paqst but it's not a sudden leap to needing to be a beast right now specifically. Just some players like that are doing well.

to date, nobody as tall as, say, d-pot (6 foot 6), has ever been able to achieve the top rank in tennis. he is the tallest player ever to win a slam however.

the tallest before him to win a slam was 6 foot 5. his name: andres gomez. he won the french open at age 31 as some will recall.

height will no doubt continue to increase but the optimal movment needed to win on ALL surfaces seems to be around 6 foot 2. you can have leverage and you can have movement at 6 foot 2 and you need that combination to dominate the sport on all surfaces.

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz47/claydeath/Sparta-3.jpg

Arkulari
10-14-2009, 05:05 AM
even if both Roger and Rafa are measured as being 6'1, I think Roger is slightly taller than Rafa ;)

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0e4m5JE7PocUn/1000x.jpg

;)

Rafa must be 1.84m and Roger about 1.86m something like that :p

(BTW: the Prince is 1.97m (6'5) )

and for the record, how tall are the winners of three GS this year? ;)
Juan is the only really tall guy who's making an impact, but you won't see a guy like Isner winning a slam in the foreseeable future ;)

FedFan_2007
10-14-2009, 05:53 AM
:retard: thread Roger & Rafa own 21 slams at 6'1", how many do the taller players have? Del Potro does not make a trend!

Burrow
10-14-2009, 05:28 PM
Murray is clearly slouching in this photo, unlike Djokovic, who is standing straight up. Djokovic is not 6'3''.

http://chadanielle.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/rome-nadal-djokovic-050309.jpg

tennishero
10-14-2009, 07:12 PM
i think 6-6.4 is probably the optimum for tennis.

ballbasher101
10-14-2009, 07:18 PM
Height is important when it comes to serving but so is technique. Thomas Johansson had a good serve even though he was not very tall. Just being tall is not good enough as you also need good technique.

Haelfix
10-14-2009, 09:25 PM
Tall guys have the big first serves and a longer torque on their groundstrokes. Smaller guys have more compact swings (this helps the return and taking the ball early) and are in principle supposed to be more agile with higher acceleration (but slower topend sprint speed). Until proven otherwise, the fastest guy in the world is 6'5.

I'd say the avg size has been trending upwards for the past twenty years or so.

Burrow
10-14-2009, 09:28 PM
Tall guys have the big first serves and a longer torque on their groundstrokes. Smaller guys have more compact swings (this helps the return and taking the ball early) and are in principle supposed to be more agile with higher acceleration (but slower topend sprint speed). Until proven otherwise, the fastest guy in the world is 6'5.

I'd say the avg size has been trending upwards for the past twenty years or so.

The fastest guy in the world may be 6'5'', but he isn't the most agile man in the world.

Roddickominator
10-14-2009, 10:33 PM
Lebron James should have played tennis.

ShotmaKer
10-15-2009, 09:45 AM
OP : No it's not. Get a clue before posting threads like this. :retard: