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All 8 WTF Spots now decided!

Blarghman
09-17-2009, 10:49 PM
ATP WTF is coming! Who will make it?!

5 7 Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 32 3670 360 90 P
6 5 Kubot, L & Marach, O 22 3660 0 90
7 6 Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 15 3550 0
8 9 Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 26 3335 360 P

Congrats to the four teams!

Please, if I'd made any errors (likely), let me know, its tough to keep all these teams straight.

5th - 3670 points - Frantisek Cermak & Michal Mertinak
http://www.abiertomextenis.com.mx/noticias1/notas_2009_66.jpg

Grand Slams: AO R32, RG R32, W R32, USO R32
1000s: Indian Wells R32, Miami QF, Madrid QF, Cincinnati R32, Shanghai QF, Paris SF
Others: Vina del Mar F, Acapulco W, Stuttgart W, Umag W, Bucharest W, Moscow F, Valencia W

Cermak/Mertinak have had most of their success on clay; but have had a great finish on the indoors circuit. This includes a number of wins at MM tournaments; Acapulco, Umag and Stuttgart, along with the Vina del Mar final. They have only beaten one of the teams ranked above them this year, twice taking out Kubot/Marach.


6th - 3660 points - Lukasz Kubot & Oliver Marach
http://www.serbiaopen.rs/upload/vest/velika/194.jpg

Grand Slams: AO SF, RG R32, W QF, USO R64
1000s: Indian Wells R16, Montreal QF, Cincinnati SF, Shanghai QF
Others: Acapulco F, Casablanca W, Belgrade W, Vienna W

They had a great start to the year, making the AO semis, beating Nestor/Zimonjic and Fyrstenberg/Matkowski along the way, but have fallen off somewhat since, especially in the larger events. They've played only three 1000s, which has somewhat limited their points potential, and lost to the Bryans twice on the US hardcourt swing, including after bagelling them in the first set in Cincy. They've made some real hay at smaller tournaments, getting 250 from the Casa Challenger and the Nole Open, as well as 300 from Mexico.


7th - 3550 points - Max Mirnyi & Andy Ram
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qg6J04XZhR4/SPK0Y8oST8I/AAAAAAAADB0/et1Fu1FwVL0/s400/aafaf1bf8f.jpg

Grand Slams: AO R32, RG R64, W R16, USO SF
1000s: Indian Wells F, Miami W, Rome QF, Madrid R32, Montreal F, Cincinnati R32, Shanghai R32

One of the better teams on US hardcourts, Mirnyi/Ram didn't do much over the middle of the season, but still have been good enough in 1000 series events to sit in a great position. Beat Nestor/Zimonjic in the USO Quarters, and have beaten the Bryans twice.


8th - 3335 points - Mariusz Fyrstenberg & Marcin Matkowski
http://tenisowy.blox.pl/resource/fyrstenberg_matkowski.jpg

Grand Slams: AO QF, RG R32, W R64, USO R64
1000s: Indian Wells QF, Miami R32, Monte Carlo QF, Rome QF, Madrid R32, Montreal QF, Cincinnati QF, Shanghai F
Others: Eastbourne W, Washington F, Kuala Lumpur W

The Polish duo are the only still-active team that played at last year's TMC that are on the outside looking in this time around. They haven't done much in the Grand Slams since the Australian, and don't have a lot of results in MM events, but have consistently manage to get the quarters in the Masters events, netting them a fair number of points. They've typically had good success during the indoor season, so they definitely could pass some teams at the close of the season.

Blarghman
09-17-2009, 10:58 PM
My picks: the current 5-7 teams and the Polish duo. Regardless of who makes it, it should be an interesting race :)

CooCooCachoo
09-18-2009, 09:46 AM
5-7 seem secure.

The last spot will be really interesting, and I can see three teams vying for it. Only Soares/Ullyett seem unlikely to take it, though knowing my luck they probably will end up clinching it now. Voted for Damm/Lindstedt, who should have an edge in the indoor events.

Björki
09-18-2009, 10:17 AM
Max Mirnyi & Andy Ram (BLR/ISR)
Wesley Moodie & Dick Norman (RSA/BEL)
Lukasz Kubot & Oliver Marach (POL/AUT)
Martin Damm & Robert Lindstedt (CZE/SWE) hopefully :)

born_on_clay
09-19-2009, 12:47 PM
5-7 and the Polish duo

Blarghman
09-25-2009, 01:38 AM
Interesting stuff in Bucharest this week; Kubot/Marach continue their good year, but it's Cermak/Mertinak that are worth watching, as this is their last chance on clay. They could really use the title in this event.

Blarghman
09-27-2009, 11:36 PM
Nice win for Cermak/Mertinak, getting themselves a little bit more of a gap in 8th.

5 5 Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 14 3550 0
6 6 Kubot, L & Marach, O 18 3140 0
7 7 Moodie, W & Norman, D 9 3115 0
8 8 Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 26 2570 0 Kuala Lumpur
======
9 9 Soares, B & Ullyett, K 19 2220 0
10 10 Damm, M & Lindstedt, R 19 2125 0 Kuala Lumpur
11 11 Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 21 2080 0 Kuala Lumpur


Another interesting week this time around, as all but one of the #8-#15 teams are in action. Cermak/Mertinak need to defend against Damm/Lindstedt and Fyrstenberg/Matkowski, who will try and gain ground.

Deborah
09-28-2009, 06:56 AM
Just went to the WTF website and was quite surprised to see other points after the teams :confused:

1 Bryan /Bryan 5665
2 Nestor /Zimonjic 5110
3 Dlouhy /Paes 3740
4 Bhupathi /Knowles 2535
5 Kubot /Marach 1970
6 Mirnyi /Ram 1915
7 Soares /Ullyett 1530
8 Cermak /Mertinak 1415
9 Moodie /Norman 1335
10 Damm /Lindstedt 1175
11 Fyrstenberg /Matkowski 1170
12 Fish /Roddick 1000

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/home/default.asp

The points after the singles players are the same as on the ATP-site...

Blarghman
09-28-2009, 08:25 AM
Just went to the WTF website and was quite surprised to see other points after the teams :confused:

1 Bryan /Bryan 5665
2 Nestor /Zimonjic 5110
3 Dlouhy /Paes 3740
4 Bhupathi /Knowles 2535
5 Kubot /Marach 1970
6 Mirnyi /Ram 1915
7 Soares /Ullyett 1530
8 Cermak /Mertinak 1415
9 Moodie /Norman 1335
10 Damm /Lindstedt 1175
11 Fyrstenberg /Matkowski 1170
12 Fish /Roddick 1000

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/home/default.asp

The points after the singles players are the same as on the ATP-site...

Haha, this worried me for a second, but it looks like it is just super laziness in updating; These numbers are similar to pre-Wimbledon, so have not been updated in nearly three months, really pathetic stuff :o

Actually, now that I look closer they are identical to my numbers for the week before Eastbourne, so a totally random point to stop. Nice job, ATP :rolleyes:

Deborah
09-28-2009, 08:41 AM
^^ Thanks for clearing that out, Blarghman :)

Nice job from ATP indeed... :o

Blarghman
10-01-2009, 10:22 PM
Really interesting semifinal between Fyrstenberg/Matkowski and Damm/Lindstedt in KL this week, the winner will move into 9th place, and have a chance at gaining some important ground on Cermak/Mertinak.

CooCooCachoo
10-02-2009, 08:40 AM
ATP :spit:

Good job Blarghman. Hopefully the Poles win it :yeah: It'd be nice to see Cermak/Mertinak at the WTF though.

GlennMirnyi
10-02-2009, 03:09 PM
Got to say this: every time I read the title of this thread I imagine "Race to what the f***".

What a stupid choice of name.

CooCooCachoo
10-02-2009, 05:32 PM
Agreed :lol:

JMG
10-03-2009, 06:51 PM
Cermak/Mertinak lost to Elgin/Moser this week. :tape:

Blarghman
10-05-2009, 06:03 AM
Fyrstenberg/Matkowski are now 240 points out of 8th after winning last week.

This week's events should be interesting; every team from 6th to 15th is in action. Soares/Ullyett get an unfortunate first round match with the Bryans, and could easily find themselves a fair distance behind.

Deborah
10-05-2009, 10:07 AM
Yikes! Moodie/Norman lost in the first round of Beijing. :(

Blarghman
10-07-2009, 07:58 PM
Bad week for the teams in spots 9-11, none of them manage to win a match :o

Cermak/Mertinak have continued to extend their lead in 8th, up to 330 now with the potential to get a lot bigger.

Blarghman
10-12-2009, 01:45 AM
A critical doubles week in Shanghai, as every one of the teams from 5 to 14 are playing.

Interestingly, the win in Tokyo for Knowle/Melzer, on a week when others struggled, has given them a sliver of hope, moving them within 1000 points of 8th. They'd basically need to win a MS event, so it's a very long shot, but they are only a few hundred points behind the teams in 10th and 11th.

One hugely important section features three of the teams in contention; Damm/Lindstedt open against Cermak/Mertinak, with the winner to play Soares/Ullyett. So, one of these teams is guaranteed at least 180 points, but two will only get 90 or 0. A very interesting part of the draw to follow.

Blarghman
10-13-2009, 05:00 AM
Big win for Cermak/Mertinak, 11-9 in the match TB. Damm/Lindstedt are now over 500 points behind 8th place. Should be an interesting one against Soares/Ullyett, a win for C/M would leave them with at worst 180 from the week, and two of their three chasers with 0.

CooCooCachoo
10-13-2009, 07:19 AM
Go Cermak/Mertinak over Soares/Ullyett :o

Deborah
10-13-2009, 08:20 AM
Really hope Moodie/Norman can get some points this week... They are only a couple of hundreds of points ahead of Cermak/Mertinak. :eek:

JMG
10-13-2009, 02:51 PM
Do Dlouhy/Petzschner get zero or 90 points if they lose to Fyrstenberg/Matkowski?

Blarghman
10-13-2009, 10:19 PM
Do Dlouhy/Petzschner get zero or 90 points if they lose to Fyrstenberg/Matkowski?

90

Deborah
10-14-2009, 02:27 PM
Moodie/Norman got a WO from Lopez/Verdasco.

What about their points if they lose the quarter to Knowle/Melzer (they got a bye in the first round)?

willoughby
10-14-2009, 02:49 PM
Moodie/Norman got a WO from Lopez/Verdasco.

What about their points if they lose the quarter to Knowle/Melzer (they got a bye in the first round)?

if they lose in the quarterfinals, they get 180 pts even without winning a match (the same with Kubot/Marach)

I think Lopez/Verdasco got zero points though they won one match.

Blarghman
10-14-2009, 04:48 PM
if they lose in the quarterfinals, they get 180 pts even without winning a match (the same with Kubot/Marach)

I think Lopez/Verdasco got zero points though they won one match.

I believe L/V will keep their 90 points; in previous cases in other 1000 events that's been the result.

Blarghman
10-15-2009, 12:18 AM
Nice result from Knowle/Melzer; they have a chance to move into the top 10 with another win, and have made themselves a player (albeit still a very longshot) in the WTF race.

And, of course, a very important result for Cermak/Mertinak, who know have more than 600 on their non-Polish chasers, and have a good chance to advance to the semifinals.

Deborah
10-15-2009, 06:30 AM
Thanks guys!! :)

Blarghman
10-15-2009, 08:22 PM
A huge win for the Polish team over the Bryans gets them closer to the Cermak/Mertinak, who lost. One more win in Shanghai would move the Poles into 8th place.

CooCooCachoo
10-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Go Poles :dance:

I'd also be happy if Cermak/Mertinak make it though.

Blarghman
10-16-2009, 11:22 PM
Looks like I'll have to make a profile for Knowle/Melzer, as they're into the top ten.

A really fascinating semifinal between the Austrians and Poles; A Polish win would move them directly into 8th, while an Austrian win would give them a chance to move up to 8th if they won the final as well.

Zirconek
10-17-2009, 12:26 AM
My votes when thread was started were Mirniy/Ram, Moodie/Norman, Soares/Ullyett and Damm/Lindstedt, I was expecting the last two teams to perform better at this end of season, it seems I got it wrong. And I didn't expect Cermak/Mertinak to hold their position and they did pretty well this week (and previously won a clay event), now I think they might have a shot.

CooCooCachoo
10-17-2009, 12:16 PM
Easy win for the Poles over Knowle/Melzer, 6-1 6-4.

Will meet Benneteau/Tsonga in the final.

Blarghman
10-17-2009, 06:57 PM
An important win for the Poles, they're now into 8th place, and if they beat the French team, they'd move up to #7, earning themselves a nice little safety margin. :cool:

CooCooCachoo
10-18-2009, 12:03 PM
But they lost, 2-6 4-6 :o

Garson007
10-18-2009, 01:45 PM
Moodie & Norman looks less likely by the day.

CooCooCachoo
10-18-2009, 01:53 PM
Cermak/Mertinak and Soares/Ullyett are the only teams playing next week, and both in different events.

Moscow:

DOUBLES DRAW

Cermak & Mertinak [CZE/SVK, 1] vs. Santoro & Youzhny [FRA/RUS]
Gabashvili & Manegin {RUS, WC] vs. Andreev & Köllerer [RUS/AUT]
Hutchins & Tecau [GBR/ROU, 4] vs. Golubev & Korolev [KAZ/RUS]
Cerretani & Hanescu [USA/ROU] vs. Bopanna & Tipsarevic

Beck & Polasek [SVK] vs. Lipsky & Wassen [USA/NED]
Friedl & Levinsky [CZE] vs. Cuevas & Granollers [URU/ESP, 3]
[I]Belyaev & P. Davydenko [RUS, WC] vs. Vassallo Arguello & Zeballos [ARG]
Kunitsyn & Safin [RUS] vs. Butorac & Ram [USA, 2]


Stockholm:

DOUBLES DRAW

Soares & Ullyett [BRA/ZIM, 1] vs. Brydolf & Siljeström [SWE, WC]
Lopez & Lopez [ESP] vs. Garcia-Lopez & Luczak [ESP/AUS]
Coetzee & Huss [RSA/AUS, 4] vs. Kontinen & J. Nieminen [FIN, WC]
Clément & Lindstedt [FRA/SWE] vs. Brunström & Rojer [SWE/AHO]

Beck & Kas [GER] vs. Hernandez & Montañes [ESP]
Melo & Sa vs. [B]Kerr & Parrott [AUS/USA, 3]
Becker & Skoch [GER/CZE] vs. Arnold Ker & Monaco [ARG]
Greul & Seppi [GER/ITA] vs. Aspelin & Hanley [SWE/AUS, 2]

Blarghman
10-21-2009, 02:50 AM
With their R1 win in Stockholm, Cermak/Mertinak hit an interesting milestone; they're just the second team (after the Bryans), to have 19 point scoring results, meaning that they drop a score. Since the dropped score is 45 points, the same as they earned this week, this means they can't add to their total without winning again.

Sapeod
10-21-2009, 11:01 PM
Moodie/Norman :unsure:

Blarghman
10-22-2009, 10:31 PM
Soares/Ullyett move into the top 10 with their QF win, but they still need to do something in a big event to have any hope.

The interesting battle continues at the #8 slot; Cermak/Mertinak moved into the Moscow semis, and are now just 45 points behind the Polish duo. Making the final would put them up into 8th, at least for now.

openwong
10-23-2009, 08:26 AM
Moodie/Norman

Blarghman
10-25-2009, 02:30 AM
Cermak/Mertinak got the SF win they needed; they've gone back ahead of the Poles for 8th, though the margin is an extremely slim 15 points.

CooCooCachoo
10-25-2009, 02:17 PM
Vienna:

Kubot/Marach
Fyrstenberg/Matkowski
Knowle/Melzer

DOUBLES DRAW

Nestor & Zimonjic [CAN/SRB, 1] vs. Isner & Kerr [USA/AUS]
Seppi & Vagnozzi vs. Almagro & Garcia-Lopez [ESP]
Kubot & Marach [POL/AUT, 3] vs. Chiudinelli & Luczak [SUI/AUS]
Kohlmann & Peya [GER/AUT] vs. Ball & Rettenmaier [AUS/USA]

Cilic & Zovko [CRO] vs. Lopez & Lopez [ESP]
Dlouhy & Petzschner [CZE/GER] vs. Knowle & Melzer [AUT, 4]
Kas & Kohlschreiber [GER] vs. [I]Hajek & Köllerer [CZE/AUT, WC]
Fischer & Oswald [AUT, WC] vs. Fyrstenberg & Matkowski [AUT, 2]

CooCooCachoo
10-25-2009, 02:20 PM
St. Petersburg:

Cermak/Mertinak

Weak tournament draw, but potentially a very tough 1R if Erlich/Ram show some improvement.

DOUBLES DRAW

Cermak & Mertinak [CZE/SVK, 1] vs. Erlich & Ram
Andreev & Youzhny [RUS] vs. [I]Chekhov & Rudnev [RUS, WC]
Bopanna & Parrott [IND/USA, 3] vs. Fleming & Skupski [GBR]
Kunitsyn & Safin [RUS] vs. Cuevas & Zeballos [URU/ARG]

Korolev & Moser [RUS/GER] vs. Cerretani & Skoch [USA/CZE]
Elgin & Gabashvili [RUS, WC] vs. Lipsky & Wassen [USA/NED, 4]
Chardy & Gasquet [FRA] vs. Beck & Polasek [SVK]
Friedl & Levinsky [CZE] vs. Brunström & Rojer [SWE/AHO, 2]

CooCooCachoo
10-25-2009, 02:23 PM
Lyon:

Moodie/Norman
Damm/Lindstedt
Soares/Ullyett

DOUBLES DRAW

Moodie & Norman [RSA/BEL, 1] vs. Benneteau & Mahut [FRA, WC]
Hernandez & Montañes [ESP] vs. Mayer & Vassallo Arguello [ARG]
Damm & Lindstedt [CZE/RUS, 3] vs. Coetzee & Huss [RSA/AUS]
Melo & Sa vs. Becker & Santoro [GER/FRA]

Bolelli & Ljubicic [ITA/CRO] vs. Hutchins & Tecau [GBR/ROU]
Gicquel & Llodra [FRA] vs. [B]Aspelin & Hanley [SWE/AUS, 4]
Butorac & Ram [USA] vs. Arnold Ker & Monaco [ARG]
Clément & Grosjean [FRA, WC] vs. Soares & Ullyett [BRA/ZIM, 2]

Sapeod
10-25-2009, 09:30 PM
If Moodie/Norman win Lyon they are almost defo for a spot in WTF

CooCooCachoo
10-25-2009, 09:30 PM
Soares/Ullyett win in Stockholm. But if they make the WTF, that would really be a bad sign. They scarcely won over half the matches they played as a team this year :shrug:

Cermak/Mertinak are the runners-up in Moscow.

Blarghman
10-26-2009, 05:47 AM
All teams 6-13 in action, should be some interesting action. As you say Coo, a big chance for C/M if they can get past that tough Round 1 match. It's worth noting again that they need to get at least to the SFs to gain any points.

willoughby
10-26-2009, 05:57 AM
Cermak still without titles outside of clay in his whole career, what a shame :(

I hope Cermak & Mertinak qualify for the WTF

wolf
10-26-2009, 09:48 PM
Soares/Ullyett win in Stockholm. But if they make the WTF, that would really be a bad sign. They scarcely won over half the matches they played as a team this year :shrug:

I guess that's the problem in having 24 draw Masters Series instead of 32 draw and making all Grand Slams/Masters Series mandatory for your ranking.

Blarghman
10-27-2009, 05:28 AM
I guess that's the problem in having 24 draw Masters Series instead of 32 draw and making all Grand Slams/Masters Series mandatory for your ranking.

GS/MS are, according to the ATP website, not mandatory for the team rankings:

A. Each team is ranked according to its total points from its best 18 results from all eligible tournaments (Grand Slam, ATP World Tour, including the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals) played in the calendar year. ... The ATP Doubles Team Rankings are used to determine the year-end World No. 1 team and which eight teams qualify for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.

The first team this should affect is Kubot/Marach; with their win this week, they have a full slate of 18 points-scoring finishes, which would not include a 0-pointer from the USO.

Blarghman
10-28-2009, 12:07 AM
Fyrstenberg/Matkowski move back into the 8th place with a win. As I mentioned above, Cermak/Mertinak's dropped score means that they won't pull back ahead if they win their own first round match.

A retirement for Damm/Lindstedt really hurts their already slim hopes, while Moodie/Norman's early exit means that F/M and/or C/M winning their respective tournaments can put them under some pressure.

Deborah
10-28-2009, 07:47 AM
Moodie/Norman :sad:

There were some really bad calls in that second set tiebreak... :(

They only have one tournament left, Paris Bercy, so they really need to do well there. I guess they will already drop out of the top 8 in two weeks with Basel and Valencia where there are also quite a lot of points to win for the others.

Blarghman
10-29-2009, 06:38 AM
Losses for both Cermak/Mertinak and Soares/Ullyett give the Poles a big chance to get some breathing room in 8th.

Blarghman
10-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Fyrstenberg/Matkowski won't make any further gain this week, they're still 8th, but only by 30 points. Kubot/Marach can move into 5th with one more win, but at this point it really doesn't matter, they're safe.

The only team still with a chance of getting closer this week is the Austrian duo of Knowle/Melzer, who could get within 500 points if they took the title.

Blarghman
10-30-2009, 07:33 PM
Their chances were already tiny, but Damm/Lindstedt are done, as Lindstedt is shutting down for the remainder of the season, per the ATP Doubles blog (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/10/Doubles-Vision-Lindstedt-Lyon.aspx)

Blarghman
11-01-2009, 01:21 AM
I was very disappointed to see that Knowle/Melzer won't be playing together next week, that will all but kill their chances unless they do something crazy like win Paris Bercy.

Regardless, looking at next week's fields, a potential Cermak/Mertinak - Fyrstenberg/Matkowski semifinal in Valencia could have significant implications for London. If either doesn't make it that far, the other will get a huge boost.

Blarghman
11-02-2009, 01:32 AM
Unless Soares/Ulyett come up with a surprise result over the next two weeks, it looks like only Cermak/Mertinak can catch up. However, with Moodie/Norman out this week, it's possible that both the Poles and C/M could make it a three-way-race for two spots in Paris.


5 5 Kubot, L & Marach, O 22 3660 0 90 V
6 6 Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 15 3550 0
7 7 Moodie, W & Norman, D 12 3295 0
8 8 Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 25 2975 0 V
====
9 9 Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 31 2945 0 45 V
10 10 Soares, B & Ullyett, K 24 2470 0 B
11 11 Knowle, J & Melzer, J 23 2430 0
12 12 Damm, M & Lindstedt, R 22 2215 0

Blarghman
11-03-2009, 04:11 AM
Cermak/Mertinak got an important first round win that puts them back up to 8th, ahead of the Polish team, at least for a day. The gap is at 15 points going into Tuesday's play.

CooCooCachoo
11-03-2009, 07:22 AM
Exciting :banana:

willoughby
11-03-2009, 12:20 PM
The Poles lost today in Valencia

Blarghman
11-03-2009, 08:51 PM
Huge loss for the Polish boys today, it means they will go into Paris 9th.

What makes things doubly interesting is Cermak/Mertinak's dropped result; if C/M lose in the next round, the Poles could still get back into 8th even if the two teams go out in the same (non-first) round in Paris. C/M's QF match this week thus has some real importance; a win there would give them a lead of more than 100 points, requiring the Poles to finish at least one round ahead of them.

Blarghman
11-05-2009, 12:29 AM
Soares/Ullyett and Kubot/Marach both lost today, leaving Cermak/Mertinak as the only team of WTF interest still playing.

I'm not 100% certain on my math, but it seems to me that if C/M lose their QF match, Kubot/Marach will mathematically clinch a WTF berth. It's only a formality, as it would take a very unlikely scenario for them to be caught, but it's worth noting nonetheless.

C/M play Coetzee/Huss at 2PM local tomorrow, a very important match :cool:

Zirconek
11-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Valencia QF: Cermak/Mertinak d. Coetzee/Huss 3-6 6-4 13-11 :yeah:

Blarghman
11-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Valencia QF: Cermak/Mertinak d. Coetzee/Huss 3-6 6-4 13-11 :yeah:

Great result for them :cool:

They are now 105 points clear of the Poles in 8th.

Basic scenarios, assuming they lose next round:


C/M result Poles need
R32 0 QF 180
R16 90 QF 180
QF 180 SF 360
SF 360 F 600
F 600 W 1000


Of course, if C/M win their semifinal, things get much tougher for the Poles, who would need at least a SF in Paris. If C/M win the event, they'd move up into 7th and leave Moodie/Norman on the bubble.

CooCooCachoo
11-05-2009, 11:38 PM
Good win, but bad score for Cermak and Mertinak.

Blarghman
11-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Cermak/Mertinak win their semifinal in straight sets; they'll get Granollers/Robredo in the final. This win means that the Poles must make at least the SF in Paris to have any hope of moving into 8th.

Blarghman
11-07-2009, 09:50 PM
Looking at the Paris draw, I'm pretty certain that Kubot/Marach have mathematically secured their place, regardless of any result over the next week. Mirnyi/Ram are not playing, so it is impossible for four teams to overtake K/M, as would be necessary to eliminate them. Well done to them :yeah:

born_on_clay
11-08-2009, 11:19 AM
Kubot/Marach aren't playing in Paris ? :shock:

Blarghman
11-08-2009, 06:01 PM
Cermak/Mertinak's win move them up to 7th, ahead of Moodie/Norman:


5 5 Kubot, L & Marach, O 22 3660 0 90
6 6 Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 15 3550 0
7 7 Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 32 3400 0 90 P
8 8 Moodie, W & Norman, D 13 3295 0 P
=====
9 9 Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 26 2975 0 P
10 10 Soares, B & Ullyett, K 25 2470 0 P

Another table:

Team R32 R16 QF SF F W
Kubot, L & Marach, O 3660
Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 3550
Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 3400 3400 3490 3670 3910 4310
Moodie, W & Norman, D 3295 3295 3475 3655 3895 4295
===
Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 2975 2975 3155 3335 3575 3975
Soares, B & Ullyett, K 2470 2560 2650 2830 3070 3470

So we can see that Kubot/Marach are now guaranteed a spot; they can fall three places, but not four with Mirnyi/Ram out. For their part, M/R would need both Cermak/Mertinak and Moodie/Norman to make at least the semis and the Poles to make the final to pay for not playing.

Soares/Ullyett must win and get help to get in, while the Poles must, at worst, make the semis.

Blarghman
11-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Indeed, the ATP have confirmed that Kubot and Marach are in for London :yeah:

Article (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/11/Finals-Kubot-Marach-Qualify.aspx)

Blarghman
11-11-2009, 02:59 AM
Soares/Ullyett keep their very slim hopes alive with an opening round win.

Deborah
11-11-2009, 02:04 PM
Soares/Ullyett keep their very slim hopes alive with an opening round win.

They just lost their second round against Cermak/Mertinak

Tomek.
11-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Cermak-Mertinak Qualify For Barclays ATP World Tour Finals; Two Spots Left

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/11/Doubles2-Wednesday-Cermak-Mertinak-Qualify.aspx

Montego
11-11-2009, 07:42 PM
The chance is still there for the Poles since Moodie / Norman lost today to Granollers / Robredo.

amirbachar
11-11-2009, 07:57 PM
The chance is still there for the Poles since Moodie / Norman lost today to Granollers / Robredo.

They just need 1 more win (but probably against the Bryans)

Blarghman
11-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Yup, it all comes down to one match; if the Poles win, they're in, if not, it's Moodie/Norman.

Deborah
11-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Another table:

Team R32 R16 QF SF F W
Kubot, L & Marach, O 3660
Mirnyi, M & Ram, A 3550
Cermak, F & Mertinak, M 3400 3400 3490 3670 3910 4310
Moodie, W & Norman, D 3295 3295 3475 3655 3895 4295
===
Fyrstenberg, M & Matkowski, M 2975 2975 3155 3335 3575 3975
Soares, B & Ullyett, K 2470 2560 2650 2830 3070 3470



How come Moodie/Norman don't get 90 points for the second round and stay at 3295?

Zirconek
11-12-2009, 01:34 PM
How come Moodie/Norman don't get 90 points for the second round and stay at 3295?

That's because they have a bye in the draw and don't get points with a second round exit.

Deborah
11-12-2009, 01:35 PM
Ok, thanks, Zirconek. :)

Tomek.
11-13-2009, 03:19 PM
poles won and they take the last place :woohoo: :banana:

Montego
11-13-2009, 03:22 PM
:worship:

3rd and 4th Pole in this year's Masters

:worship:

Deborah
11-15-2009, 09:47 AM
Congratulations to the Poles for clinching the last spot.
I feel a bit sad for Moodie/Norman though (especially for Norman, it would have been great for him to be able to play the Finals), but they really messed it up in those last couple of tournaments. Such a pity cause they did so well at the last three grandslams.
Anyways, I guess they will go to London as the first alternate and maybe they'll still get a chance to play (allthough I guess there's only a small chance, since I don't see any other team withdrawing...)