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Players that completely fail their countries

Nichele Hull
08-17-2009, 10:45 PM
Davis Cup is a time when tennis players seem to do their best. In some cases they fail the nation by choking. Are there any other players that choke instead of winning for their country?

scarecrows
08-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Acasuso shouldn't be there
he lost twice the decisive match but was both times against the odds

Melzer should be

r2473
08-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Federer.

Har-Tru
08-17-2009, 10:49 PM
Any French player.

Acasuso gave all he had. No shame.

Sofonda Cox
08-17-2009, 10:50 PM
All British players

stzenit
08-17-2009, 10:53 PM
Mathieu :lol: 2 sets to love up in 2002 Davis Cup final decisive rubber AT HOME against Youzhny, fist pumping beating his hand to his heart..and then Youzhny started playing better and Mathieu $hit his pants :)

Har-Tru
08-17-2009, 10:55 PM
Seriously now, it has to be Federer.

lalaland
08-17-2009, 11:03 PM
I agree, should be the one who doesn't show up, not the one who played and have those heartbroken losses.

moonlightdance
08-17-2009, 11:07 PM
so this is the bag on frenchies and federer thread, i assume. don't we have enough of those?

Bad Religion
08-17-2009, 11:54 PM
Gonzalez (CHI) in Davis Cup

Jimnik
08-17-2009, 11:57 PM
Bogdanovic

Everko
08-18-2009, 12:01 AM
Gonzalez (CHI) in Davis Cup

That's heinous. He wins 90% of Chile's metals at the olympics.

MacTheKnife
08-18-2009, 12:01 AM
The Swiss guy not named Stanislas.

Everko
08-18-2009, 12:03 AM
The Swiss guy not named Stanislas.

Don't you dare call out Yves.

Mint Chip
08-18-2009, 12:12 AM
Everytime Federer doesn't play for Switzerland the Swiss fans should burn his stamps at the next GS tourney he plays in

Sunset of Age
08-18-2009, 12:16 AM
Everytime Federer doesn't play for Switzerland the Swiss fans should burn his stamps at the next GS tourney he plays in

Fortunately, the Swiss don't give a damn, as their countryman has done more than enough already. :)

Argenbrit
08-18-2009, 12:25 AM
Federer.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
08-18-2009, 12:26 AM
chance that a nadaltard made this thread?

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
08-18-2009, 12:29 AM
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Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 12:32 AM
That's heinous. He wins 90% of Chile's metals at the olympics.

What part of Davis Cup don't you understand?

Fortunately, the Swiss don't give a damn, as their countryman has done more than enough already. :)

Not for his country in DC.

Dini
08-18-2009, 12:37 AM
I don't think Federer has "completely failed" his country. He's been prioritising individual tournaments to Davis Cup (still does play every year to keep them in it) but I'm sure Switzerland don't see Fed as a fail for his country, rather the contrary actually.

Sunset of Age
08-18-2009, 12:41 AM
Not for his country in DC.

Like I said, it doesn't at all seem to matter to the Swiss folks, and they are the only ones who should complain about it if they do.

I don't think Federer has "completely failed" his country in DC. He's been prioritising individual tournaments to Davis Cup (still does play every year to keep them in it) but I'm sure Switzerland don't see Fed as a fail for his country, rather the contrary actually.

Of course. He's actually the first living guy whose image has made it to an official Swiss stamp - one might conclude they are pretty proud of him, and rightly so.

BigJohn
08-18-2009, 12:43 AM
Federer completely failing his country?

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 12:52 AM
The Swiss are the least patriotic people of all Europe, that's true. But still.

Dini
08-18-2009, 12:54 AM
The Swiss are the least patriotic people of all Europe, that's true. But still.

Still what?

Federer has completely failed his country and his country is so disappointed in him? :shrug: :scratch: :p

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 01:05 AM
Still what?

Federer has completely failed his country and his country is so disappointed in him? :shrug: :scratch: :p

No I didn't say those words...

of the top players, he's the one that has disregarded Davis Cup the most. He has repeatedly put his personal interest over his country's. And he doesn't have the excuse that he didn't have another valid player around.

BigJohn
08-18-2009, 01:07 AM
So all Swiss people are collectively failing Har-Tru for not patriotically caring enough about Federer completely failing his country.

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 01:18 AM
So all Swiss people are collectively failing Har-Tru for not patriotically caring enough about Federer completely failing his country.

what the fuck are you talking about?

Dini
08-18-2009, 01:20 AM
No I didn't say those words...

of the top players, he's the one that has disregarded Davis Cup the most. He has repeatedly put his personal interest over his country's. And he doesn't have the excuse that he didn't have another valid player around.

You give the answer "Federer" to a thread with the title "completely failing" hence the bafflement from my side. :scratch:

He's been disappointing as far as DC goes, no doubt about it. But has he completely failed his country? A resounding no. :p

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 01:23 AM
You give the answer "Federer" to a thread with the title "completely failing" hence the bafflement from my side. :scratch:

He's been disappointing as far as DC goes, no doubt about it. But has he completely failed his country? A resounding no. :p

OK... I'm too lazy to spell everything out. I mean he has failed his country's Davis Cup team.

Oh and is bafflement a word? :scratch: :p

BigJohn
08-18-2009, 01:25 AM
what the fuck are you talking about?

I was talking about this:

The Swiss are the least patriotic people of all Europe, that's true. But still.

Dini
08-18-2009, 01:31 AM
OK... I'm too lazy to spell everything out. I mean he has failed his country's Davis Cup team.


Well even the underlined isn't completely true. He won all his 3 matches against USA in 2001 to win the tie 3-2. And in 2002 as well he won against Safin and Kafelnikov etc etc. He has also played every year since I can remember, just not at the best time. But there is no doubt that he's been disappointing to his team, but I wouldn't call him "failing" as I doubt a Switzerland would care as much as a Spain or an Aregentina would do.


Oh and is bafflement a word? :scratch: :p

It is now. :lol:

rocketassist
08-18-2009, 01:32 AM
Filippo Volandri, Ivo Karlovic (till the recent tie) and Hicham Arazi (fantastic talent but often money motivated).

richie21
08-18-2009, 01:37 AM
Gasquet and that's not even close(i don't even consider the Davis Cup there).
Since he was 9,he was tainted as the one who would break the french malediction in Grand Slams since Noah but instead of that,he has just turned out to be a poor man's Grosjean :rolleyes:

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 01:39 AM
I was talking about this:

still don't get it.

Well even the underlined isn't completely true. He won all his 3 matches against USA in 2001 to win the tie 3-2. And in 2002 as well he won against Safin and Kafelnikov etc etc. He has also played every year since I can remember, just not at the best time. But there is no doubt that he's been disappointing to his team, but I wouldn't call him "failing" as I doubt a Switzerland would care as much as a Spain or an Aregentina would do.

sigh... as a whole, he has failed his DC team. :cool: and yes there are Swiss who care too.

stzenit
08-18-2009, 01:42 AM
Well even the underlined isn't completely true. He won all his 3 matches against USA in 2001 to win the tie 3-2. And in 2002 as well he won against Safin and Kafelnikov etc etc. He has also played every year since I can remember, just not at the best time. But there is no doubt that he's been disappointing to his team, but I wouldn't call him "failing" as I doubt a Switzerland would care as much as a Spain or an Aregentina would do.



It is now. :lol:
my bad he did beat them

Dini
08-18-2009, 01:45 AM
sigh... as a whole, he has failed his DC team. :cool: and yes there are Swiss who care too.

I see your point and agree with it to a large extent.

Of course there are those who care, and I've never denied that his lack of participation has been disappointing, but in general I don't think they see him as a complete failure for their country in DC because he has taken part here and there, and in the past has won crucial and memorable rubbers.

DJ Soup
08-18-2009, 02:32 AM
Basel is Federer's Davis

MacTheKnife
08-18-2009, 03:07 AM
Federer will be defended to the death.. loyalty is a virtue..

thalle
08-18-2009, 09:18 AM
Kristian Pless. Who doesn't even wanna play for Denmark. That's what I call fail!

bokehlicious
08-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Everytime Federer doesn't play for Switzerland the Swiss fans should burn his stamps at the next GS tourney he plays in

:retard:

Fortunately, the Swiss don't give a damn, as their countryman has done more than enough already. :)

I don't think Federer has "completely failed" his country. He's been prioritising individual tournaments to Davis Cup (still does play every year to keep them in it) but I'm sure Switzerland don't see Fed as a fail for his country, rather the contrary actually.

Like I said, it doesn't at all seem to matter to the Swiss folks, and they are the only ones who should complain about it if they do.



Of course. He's actually the first living guy whose image has made it to an official Swiss stamp - one might conclude they are pretty proud of him, and rightly so.

This :)

The Swiss are the least patriotic people of all Europe, that's true. But still.

Yeah, better be ultra nationalist like those Spanish sports fan that seem to get to war anytime one of them is stepping on a sports field... :yeah: :retard:


of the top players, he's the one that has disregarded Davis Cup the most. He has repeatedly put his personal interest over his country's. And he doesn't have the excuse that he didn't have another valid player around.

He doesn't have this "excuse" anymore, but fact remains that Swiss DC team was a one-man team for a decade, he wouldn't have won it on his own, no matter what. Winning slams was waaaaayyyyyyy more important to him and to the Swiss :shrug:

Sapeod
08-18-2009, 09:40 AM
Who's saying Federer? :lol: Failing his country? Him and Hingis out Swiss tennis back on the map.

Castafiore
08-18-2009, 10:21 AM
Like I said, it doesn't at all seem to matter to the Swiss folks, and they are the only ones who should complain about it if they do.
I don't agree that he's "failing his country" at all, however: when Federer didn't show up for the DC tie against the US this year, he did get a LOT of flack from the Swiss press. I'd do a search and copy for you if I could be bothered but if you can read French and German, you should be able to find some samples.
Why do some keep the myth alive that it doesn't matter to the Swiss folks? :scratch:

Perhaps the Swiss are not the most patriotic people but it's not as if they don't give a damn.

Deivid23
08-18-2009, 10:24 AM
Boredo, freaking disgrace when playing DC for Spain.

Federer, don´t give a damn about Swiss DC team, he will just play when he sees a cakewalk draw to the title to make his CV more complete.

Mathieu, the biggest choker ever known

bokehlicious
08-18-2009, 10:30 AM
I don't agree that he's "failing his country" at all, however: when Federer didn't show up for the DC tie against the US this year, he did get a LOT of flack from the Swiss press. I'd do a search and copy for you if I could be bothered but if you can read French and German, you should be able to find some samples.
Why do some keep the myth alive that it doesn't matter to the Swiss folks? :scratch:

Perhaps the Swiss are not the most patriotic people but it's not as if they don't give a damn.

The Swiss hardly ever gave a damn to Roger since very recently... and all of a sudden some of them seem to care and bitch that he doesn't play DC... Pretty sure Roger couldn't care less about what a few retarded casual fans think of him.

Laba
08-18-2009, 10:44 AM
Acasuso shouldn't be on that poll.

Robredo for Spain, Mathieu for France.

Sapeod
08-18-2009, 11:09 AM
Mathieu. Choking pansy. The French team would have a better time with Mannarino than this clown.

HattonWBA
08-18-2009, 01:04 PM
Boggo should be on the list, i know he's not great but in regards to the opposition GB are facing he has still been very disappointing.

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 01:55 PM
Yeah, better be ultra nationalist like those Spanish sports fan that seem to get to war anytime one of them is stepping on a sports field... :yeah: :retard:

How old are you, oh ultimate Fedtard?

And WTF are you talking about?

ballbasher101
08-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Boggo should be on the list, i know he's not great but in regards to the opposition GB are facing he has still been very disappointing.


Boggo is so bad that his name is not even worth putting on the list.

Bargearse
08-18-2009, 01:58 PM
Kristian Pless. Who doesn't even wanna play for Denmark. That's what I call fail!

What happened to this guy? I remember thinking a hundred years ago that he might amount to something, but he like disappeared.

Edit: Just looked him up. 289 in the world.

Goldenoldie
08-18-2009, 02:02 PM
Henman and Rusedski for retiring too early, just when Murray was coming into prominence.

Henman, Rusedski and Murray as a 3-man team might have stood a chance of challenging some of the more successful countries.

Murray, Bogdanovic and Joe Bloggs, not a hope!

Har-Tru
08-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Henman retired at 33...

Audacity
08-18-2009, 02:05 PM
Boggo is so bad that his name is not even worth putting on the list.

i hope this is a joke...

Dini
08-18-2009, 02:10 PM
Has Boggo ever won a DC match? A dead rubber maybe, but can't recall him winning one that counted...

But then again winning is a rarity for him, :o despite being two points away from defeating Andy roddick in 2007. :sad:

ballbasher101
08-18-2009, 02:13 PM
i hope this is a joke...


It is no joke. The time is nigh for Boggo to start looking at a career change. The LTA are going to give him a wildcard at Wimbledon again next year, shameful just shameful.

LocoPorElTenis
08-18-2009, 02:18 PM
Acasuso shouldn't be there
he lost twice the decisive match but was both times against the odds

Melzer should be

True, in fact I'd say he played well over his usual (pathetic) level in those matches.

rocketassist
08-18-2009, 02:24 PM
Henman and Rusedski for retiring too early, just when Murray was coming into prominence.

Henman, Rusedski and Murray as a 3-man team might have stood a chance of challenging some of the more successful countries.

Murray, Bogdanovic and Joe Bloggs, not a hope!

Murray broke through in 05, Henman had retired from DC at the time, Rusedski still played. Then Henman returned to action just as Rusedski had finished with representing the team.

All three never got a good go together. I reckon they could have stuck around as doubles specialists, we'd have had a good chance then.

Serenidad
08-18-2009, 05:35 PM
James Blake.