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Congrats to Andy Murray, New World No. 2!

whattheheck
08-15-2009, 09:02 PM
Congrats!

The Oracle
08-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Congrats Andy Murray on becoming number two.

Next Step Is Number One.

feuselino
08-15-2009, 09:04 PM
How many weeks has it been Federer/Nadal now?

habibko
08-15-2009, 09:05 PM
the Fedal monopoly has been broken by the Tradesman, congrats Murray :yeah:

tennishero
08-15-2009, 09:06 PM
murray #2 lol what a disgrace

Serenidad
08-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Beat Djokovic to #2. What telling times.

Murray catches up and beats Djokovic to #2.
Nadal falls out of Top #2 first time in forever even before Federer falls out.
Federer is #1 again.

TMJordan
08-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Great, and I mean GREAT times for tennis. Soon to be number 1.

Gaudio2004
08-15-2009, 09:08 PM
#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.

The Oracle
08-15-2009, 09:08 PM
How many weeks has it been Federer/Nadal now?
300+

Look at My Thread.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=145873

whattheheck
08-15-2009, 09:10 PM
#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.

And it's only a matter of time that he gets to Number 1. He has to win a grand slam soon, or he'll be a slamless No.1

FedFan_2007
08-15-2009, 09:10 PM
What an amazing run for Fedal at the top 2. Well, the Fedal duopology continues in the slams. Remember Murray, winning slams is ALL that it's about!

FedFan_2007
08-15-2009, 09:12 PM
Another interesting thing to note, Murray has now made 5/6 hardcourt Masters finals.

madmax
08-15-2009, 09:12 PM
haha, good times:wavey: When was the last time Nadull was ranked outside TOP 2? I imagine some few years ago at least...

Har-Tru
08-15-2009, 09:12 PM
congrats Murray. now win a bloody slam or you'll just be another Tommy Haas.

Corey Feldman
08-15-2009, 09:13 PM
this thread is gonna be a mecca for bitterness

but i'll say congrats to the Scottish kid, world #2, well done son :yeah:

samanosuke
08-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Congrats!


Is this congrats sarcastic or what ... ? This is one of the saddest period of this sport .

If is God so great as they talking he would never allow that that ( I can found a word how describe him ) win a slam...

tennis is touch the bottom

HKz
08-15-2009, 09:14 PM
What a ridiculous year for tennis!

KarlyM
08-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Congrats to Murray. :wavey:

It's always good to shake things up a little bit. ;)

rtgy
08-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Muzza:rocker2: :worship:

Regenbogen
08-15-2009, 09:18 PM
Keep moving on up. :rocker2:

It's weird though; I've gotten so used to the Federer-Nadal top 2.

Chiakifug
08-15-2009, 09:18 PM
Why Jo? Why play those set points horrible and allow this to happen? Sad day for tennis.

neme6
08-15-2009, 09:19 PM
Congrats, but Murray has so much points to defend until the end of the year, Nadal will have a shot at the no2 spot soon I think!

kinski76
08-15-2009, 09:19 PM
Congrats indeed! Not a big fan of his style of play, but considering his overall consistency this season it is deserved. :hatoff:

angry1
08-15-2009, 09:19 PM
#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.

They've played 23 slams in the last year?I really should pay attention more.

Or are 19 of those you mention irrelevant to what's being discussed?

DrJules
08-15-2009, 09:20 PM
Congrats, but Murray has so much points to defend until the end of the year, Nadal will have a shot at the no2 spot soon I think!

Before this week Murray was certainly a long way behind on year to date (penultimate column):

1 0 Roger Federer SUI 11060 11060 16 7460 1
2 0 Rafael Nadal ESP 9285 9285 16 6805 2
3 0 Andy Murray GBR 8260 8260 18 4500 3
4 0 Novak Djokovic SRB 7380 7380 21 4140 4
5 0 Andy Roddick USA 5530 5470 21 3950 5
6 0 Juan Martin Del Potro ARG 5155 5005 22 3100 6
7 0 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga FRA 3650 3695 23 1590 13
8 0 Nikolay Davydenko RUS 3525 3525 22 1750 10

RagingLamb
08-15-2009, 09:22 PM
Congrats to the new number 2.

Looking forward to the USO.

abraxas21
08-15-2009, 09:27 PM
everytime a mug like murray ascends a place in the ATP, I die a little inside.

Today is a sad day for tennis.

Bad Religion
08-15-2009, 09:27 PM
Best player in the world currently

Once again the ATP ranking lies , Murray should be the number one

Leo
08-15-2009, 09:30 PM
Murray has announced himself as the best player in the world on hard courts. Soon to be #1, Slam or not.

Sofonda Cox
08-15-2009, 09:31 PM
ATP = http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Swiss Mountain
08-15-2009, 09:33 PM
Federer stayed longer as number 1 than nadal at number 2
(fed n°1 january 2004 - Nadal n°2 Mars 2005)

Poor Nadal, gone with the wind!

jcempire
08-15-2009, 09:33 PM
Great News

New World No 2 other name than Nadal and Fed

Great JOB Muarry

Hope Andys Final tommorrow. Go Roddick

Caralimon
08-15-2009, 09:34 PM
A Slam win gives out a lot of points with the new system, hard to see anybody getting to #1 without winning one.

Congrats Andy.

jcempire
08-15-2009, 09:35 PM
Federer stayed longer as number 1 than nadal at number 2
(fed n°1 january 2004 - Nadal n°2 Mars 2005)

Poor Nadal, gone with the wind!

He --- so poor. If no injury, Nadal maybe still the No 1 and 3000 points over FED

Sofonda Cox
08-15-2009, 09:38 PM
Great, and I mean GREAT times for tennis. Soon to be number 1.

http://www.coolsmileys.org/smilies/sick0006.gif

Acer
08-15-2009, 09:38 PM
I do actually prefer Nadal as the number two

Mohammad
08-15-2009, 09:40 PM
Best player in the world currently

Once again the ATP ranking lies , Murray should be the number one

The best joke I have ever heard!

Andi-M
08-15-2009, 09:41 PM
Congratulations Andy :woohoo:

HKz
08-15-2009, 09:44 PM
He --- so poor. If no injury, Nadal maybe still the No 1 and 3000 points over FED

Injury or not, do you honestly think he is not human? What happened to Courier, Hewitt, Chang, etc. They all relied on fitness yet look where they ended up. Think fool, you honestly believe Nadal is less human than all of us that he would be able to keep playing his taxing playing style forever? He had a 2 month break yet that proved so much. He looked like a tpyical mug against David, Philip and Juan.

Speculation = denial. This is sports and this is tennis. This isn't chess where you can go through your whole career without half your body. If you get injured or whatnot, you put it on yourself because you are playing a sport. No one to blame except yourself. You should of been Nadal's agent and told him that he should play more like Sampras so he could last 14 seasons. Now if Nadal came onto the ATP with a missing leg and used a prosthetic, that is a different story. But he came in with a 100% body and decided the playing style he has today.

Just stop with the "if Nadal had no injury" etc bs already. Let Nadal have the mental edge over Federer, but Federer has the longevity.

dodoboy
08-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Well done boi :bounce:

MalwareDie
08-15-2009, 09:46 PM
Excellent. Congratulations to Murray for knocking Mugboar out of the Top 2.

Bad Religion
08-15-2009, 09:47 PM
The best joke I have ever heard!

And whoīs better than Andy Murray currently?
Donīt tell me that the swiss mug who is trail 2-6 in the head to head vs Muzza :spit:

Mohammad
08-15-2009, 09:49 PM
Actually he doesn't deserve to be #2, unlucky Rafa!

roberthenman
08-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Congrats Andy :worship:
now run to nuber One :rocker:

Steelq
08-15-2009, 09:51 PM
Somewhere out there,WTA fans are smiling.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-15-2009, 10:03 PM
well done Andy, now reach #1, you can do it this year :yeah:

Voo de Mar
08-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Here is the list of No. 2 players who didn't reach No. 1 (Open Era):

Manuel Orantes(23.08.1973)
Guillermo Vilas (30.04.1975)
Ken Rosewall (30.04.1975) :scratch:
Arthur Ashe (10.05.1976)
Michael Stich (22.11.1993)
Goran Ivanisevic (4.07.1994)
Michael Chang (9.09.1996)
Petr Korda (2.02.1998)
Alex Corretja (1.02.1999)
Magnus Norman (12.06.2000)
Tommy Haas (13.05.2002)
Andy Murray (17.08.2009)

Among these players only Haas didn't play in Grand Slam final, we can say "the weakest No. 2" in history :o

tangerine_dream
08-15-2009, 10:10 PM
Congrats to the slamless wonder Murray for his inflated rank thanks entirely to Nadal's injury. :yeah:

This is Sparta
08-15-2009, 10:15 PM
The ATP is slowly becoming WTA-like. What a disgrace

Swiss Mountain
08-15-2009, 10:22 PM
He --- so poor. If no injury, Nadal maybe still the No 1 and 3000 points over FED

LOl no injuries?
he wasn't injured at RG, he said it after his loss to Soderling, at the press conf.
if you beleive the Nadal clan's crap and false excuses of injuries, you are very naive and quite stupid, his game is not consistent, period.
A HC players crush him at the french, so did Fed at Madrid, and remember fed played more matches than him overthere (Kol retire before his match against nadal)

And oh, Fed played two gruelling matched in Rome 2006 before meeting nadal, yet, he went to 5setters, got MP
nadal didn't played much in madrid against Djoko (count the time to serve from both, the kine breaks, and you understand that Fed vs Rod, was as long as Nadal vs Djoko)

Yet, the old guardis quick to serve, they are pro, unlike retarded djoko and nadal.

Swiss Mountain
08-15-2009, 10:28 PM
The ATP is slowly becoming WTA-like. What a disgrace

You realize you Fed spoiled you, that's all; before it was nearly the same all the time
Sampras, and round aroud the table for n°2 (excuse my english, but you got me)

FiBeR
08-15-2009, 10:32 PM
people, gotta take it as it is..

other than vilas who got a big rip-off from atp in 1977.. everything is in the rules

yes, neither haas nor murray won a slam and got to n2.. rios didnt win a slam and got to n1.. whats the deal??

congrats to andy.. not my favourite player but respect to him

it is what it is..bitter or not, just enjoy it

Burrow
08-15-2009, 10:32 PM
Murray has announced himself as the best player in the world on hard courts. Soon to be #1, Slam or not.

Federer and Nadal hold the hardcourt slams :o

propi
08-15-2009, 10:44 PM
Murray has announced himself as the best player in the world on hard courts. Soon to be #1, Slam or not.

:lol: Quoting Steffi Graf and Sabatini's words...

Sabatini, who'd reached a career high number two WTA Tour singles ranking would say of Graf, “She's lost the confidence associated with the number one ranking.”

“How would she know?” Graf would snap back.

:worship:

Congrats to the new number 2*

Michael Bluth
08-15-2009, 10:46 PM
Last time someone else was 2 was July 05.

Swiss Mountain
08-15-2009, 10:54 PM
What a moron Andy really, he said this in 2006! I repeat 2006!

Link: http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...231196,00.html
SkySports, Wednesday 16th August 2006

After his stunning victory against Roger Federer in the Cincinnati Masters, Andy Murray has said that he is gunning for the Swiss star's place at the top of the world rankings.

The 19-year-old scored a straight sets 7-5 6-4 win against the eight-times grand slam winner in the second round of the ATP event, in the process ending Federer's hopes of matching Ivan Lendl's record of reaching 18 consecutive finals.

And Murray later revealed the hiring of coach Brad Gilbert to be a major factor in the achievement of his latest milestone, adding that the pair eventually wanted the Scot to supplant Federer as the world's best.

"He believes in me, I believe in him. We got the tactics right today," Murray said.

"Having him in your corner is special. There's not too many people around like him. He is definitely one of the best coaches in the world.

"He stays positive all the time and has 100% belief I can become world number one and win a grand slam."

Since joining forces with Gilbert - who helped both Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick to grand slam success - at the start of the month, Murray has finished runner-up in Washington and reached the semi-finals last week in Toronto.

Murray's current form has lifted him to 21 in the world rankings but, after a first-round win against Tim Henman on Monday, the teenager admitted that his latest success had left him stunned.

"I wasn't expected to win but I think I proved to a lot of people I can be a good player and possibly even a great player," Murray continued.

"I don't think he (Federer) played his best match today but it was a great effort to come through.

"I was getting tired at 2-2 in the second set. I had a long match with Tim yesterday, it was hot here, and I was obviously a little bit nervous and I've played a lot of matches.

"It's something that you always dream of, winning against a guy like Federer, and it's special when it does happen."

Meanwhile the defeated Federer claimed to feel no disappointment at not having the chance to try and break Lendl's record, set in season 1981-82.

"No, I'm not (disappointed)," he said. "There's no reason to be because I'm on an incredible run.

"You always expect a loss once in a while. So when it happens, why be disappointed if I win over 90% of my matches."

And the 25-year-old also predicted tournament success for Murray this week - provided he can keep his level of performance up.

"He could. I think he's playing well. He's definitely got to still improve many things," Federer added.

"He played a good match today. Youngsters play good on the day. If they play good for the entire week, that's the other question."


Now, yes, maybe he will took it but gosh, he gotta wait for it, wait for Fed to be on decline and be a dad. What a joke he is

amonb
08-15-2009, 10:58 PM
#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.one player has 15 slams??? too right it's a bad era!!!!

Clydey
08-15-2009, 11:00 PM
What a moron Andy really, he said this in 2006! I repeat 2006!

Link: http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...231196,00.html
SkySports, Wednesday 16th August 2006

After his stunning victory against Roger Federer in the Cincinnati Masters, Andy Murray has said that he is gunning for the Swiss star's place at the top of the world rankings.

The 19-year-old scored a straight sets 7-5 6-4 win against the eight-times grand slam winner in the second round of the ATP event, in the process ending Federer's hopes of matching Ivan Lendl's record of reaching 18 consecutive finals.

And Murray later revealed the hiring of coach Brad Gilbert to be a major factor in the achievement of his latest milestone, adding that the pair eventually wanted the Scot to supplant Federer as the world's best.

"He believes in me, I believe in him. We got the tactics right today," Murray said.

"Having him in your corner is special. There's not too many people around like him. He is definitely one of the best coaches in the world.

"He stays positive all the time and has 100% belief I can become world number one and win a grand slam."

Since joining forces with Gilbert - who helped both Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick to grand slam success - at the start of the month, Murray has finished runner-up in Washington and reached the semi-finals last week in Toronto.

Murray's current form has lifted him to 21 in the world rankings but, after a first-round win against Tim Henman on Monday, the teenager admitted that his latest success had left him stunned.

"I wasn't expected to win but I think I proved to a lot of people I can be a good player and possibly even a great player," Murray continued.

"I don't think he (Federer) played his best match today but it was a great effort to come through.

"I was getting tired at 2-2 in the second set. I had a long match with Tim yesterday, it was hot here, and I was obviously a little bit nervous and I've played a lot of matches.

"It's something that you always dream of, winning against a guy like Federer, and it's special when it does happen."

Meanwhile the defeated Federer claimed to feel no disappointment at not having the chance to try and break Lendl's record, set in season 1981-82.

"No, I'm not (disappointed)," he said. "There's no reason to be because I'm on an incredible run.

"You always expect a loss once in a while. So when it happens, why be disappointed if I win over 90% of my matches."

And the 25-year-old also predicted tournament success for Murray this week - provided he can keep his level of performance up.

"He could. I think he's playing well. He's definitely got to still improve many things," Federer added.

"He played a good match today. Youngsters play good on the day. If they play good for the entire week, that's the other question."


Now, yes, maybe he will took it but gosh, he gotta wait for it, wait for Fed to be on decline and be a dad. What a joke he is

Are you just making shit up now? Murray didn't say anything about taking Federer's place. And if he did, he didn't mean in 2006. He said that Gilbert believes that he can become world number 1. And he didn't mean that year. He meant in future.

Some people on here need to grow up and stop whining.

lessthanjake
08-15-2009, 11:01 PM
Murray has gotta be the favorite for the US Open, I think, given his performances at hard court Masters. I am a Federer fan and I actually don't like Murray, but I would say Murray has the best chance of winning, followed by Federer, then Djokovic, Nadal, Del Potro, and Roddick about tied.

If Murray DOES win the US Open, he has a really good chance of hitting #1.

amonb
08-15-2009, 11:03 PM
What a moron Andy really, he said this in 2006! I repeat 2006!

Link: http://www.skysports.com/skysports/a...231196,00.html
SkySports, Wednesday 16th August 2006

After his stunning victory against Roger Federer in the Cincinnati Masters, Andy Murray has said that he is gunning for the Swiss star's place at the top of the world rankings.

The 19-year-old scored a straight sets 7-5 6-4 win against the eight-times grand slam winner in the second round of the ATP event, in the process ending Federer's hopes of matching Ivan Lendl's record of reaching 18 consecutive finals.

And Murray later revealed the hiring of coach Brad Gilbert to be a major factor in the achievement of his latest milestone, adding that the pair eventually wanted the Scot to supplant Federer as the world's best.

"He believes in me, I believe in him. We got the tactics right today," Murray said.

"Having him in your corner is special. There's not too many people around like him. He is definitely one of the best coaches in the world.

"He stays positive all the time and has 100% belief I can become world number one and win a grand slam."

Since joining forces with Gilbert - who helped both Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick to grand slam success - at the start of the month, Murray has finished runner-up in Washington and reached the semi-finals last week in Toronto.

Murray's current form has lifted him to 21 in the world rankings but, after a first-round win against Tim Henman on Monday, the teenager admitted that his latest success had left him stunned.

"I wasn't expected to win but I think I proved to a lot of people I can be a good player and possibly even a great player," Murray continued.

"I don't think he (Federer) played his best match today but it was a great effort to come through.

"I was getting tired at 2-2 in the second set. I had a long match with Tim yesterday, it was hot here, and I was obviously a little bit nervous and I've played a lot of matches.

"It's something that you always dream of, winning against a guy like Federer, and it's special when it does happen."

Meanwhile the defeated Federer claimed to feel no disappointment at not having the chance to try and break Lendl's record, set in season 1981-82.

"No, I'm not (disappointed)," he said. "There's no reason to be because I'm on an incredible run.

"You always expect a loss once in a while. So when it happens, why be disappointed if I win over 90% of my matches."

And the 25-year-old also predicted tournament success for Murray this week - provided he can keep his level of performance up.

"He could. I think he's playing well. He's definitely got to still improve many things," Federer added.

"He played a good match today. Youngsters play good on the day. If they play good for the entire week, that's the other question."


Now, yes, maybe he will took it but gosh, he gotta wait for it, wait for Fed to be on decline and be a dad. What a joke he is

He makes fed look like a fucking idiot when they play together. Fed played in a weak era before murray came along. Fact!!!

Burrow
08-15-2009, 11:07 PM
He makes fed look like a fucking idiot when they play together. Fed played in a weak era before murray came along. Fact!!!

:lol:

stzenit
08-15-2009, 11:07 PM
mmmm Congrats i guess, i think this is only temporary

Har-Tru
08-15-2009, 11:08 PM
Here is the list of No. 2 players who didn't reach No. 1 (Open Era):

Manuel Orantes(23.08.1973)
Guillermo Vilas (30.04.1975)
Ken Rosewall (30.04.1975) :scratch:
Arthur Ashe (10.05.1976)
Michael Stich (22.11.1993)
Goran Ivanisevic (4.07.1994)
Michael Chang (9.09.1996)
Petr Korda (2.02.1998)
Alex Corretja (1.02.1999)
Magnus Norman (12.06.2000)
Tommy Haas (13.05.2002)
Andy Murray (17.08.2009)

Among these players only Haas didn't play in Grand Slam final, we can say "the weakest No. 2" in history :o

great job as usual Voo.

interesting that of these players, only the last four didn't win a slam.

dennisback
08-15-2009, 11:17 PM
gaudio is gs winner and only rank 314 WTF !?!?!? and Muzza rank 2 with 0 GS titel

Burrow
08-15-2009, 11:19 PM
gaudio is gs winner and only rank 314 WTF !?!?!? and Muzza rank 2 with 0 GS titel

Are you serious, pal? :haha:

Gaudio won Roland Garros in 2004 and is nearly 31.

guga2120
08-15-2009, 11:20 PM
It may not be this year, but he will be #1 eventually. He is the best hard court player in the world right now.

Boarder35m
08-15-2009, 11:21 PM
Speculation = denial. This is sports and this is tennis. This isn't chess where you can go through your whole career without half your body. If you get injured or whatnot, you put it on yourself because you are playing a sport. No one to blame except yourself. You should of been Nadal's agent and told him that he should play more like Sampras so he could last 14 seasons. Now if Nadal came onto the ATP with a missing leg and used a prosthetic, that is a different story. But he came in with a 100% body and decided the playing style he has today.


Congrats to Andy Murray for reaching the number 2 spot. :worship:

But I have to disagree to what some of you write.
I simply disagree to the assumption that is is only the fault of the player himself if he gets injured. I mean people are no robots and so their bodies are different. Something that brings an injury to one player might not hurt at all the next player.

Therefore I find it very hard to compare players with each other and so I only can give credits to actual winners of matches but I canīt say whether one player is better than another player who is injured.
What I do think is that it takes a strong mind to reach a number 2 spot though so thatīs why I give credits to Murray :worship:
But when you talk about 100% fitness than I have to say that probably the fitness of all player differ so it is not easy to say what 100% would be.
Probably most of the people who post here will disagree but I find it hard to jude on someone elses physical ability because Iīm not him :p

tennizen
08-15-2009, 11:27 PM
Congrats to Murray:worship: He has earned his spot. Hopefully the slams will follow.

Burrow
08-15-2009, 11:39 PM
It may not be this year, but he will be #1 eventually. He is the best hard court player in the world right now.

So holding Miami and Cincy is better than holding a hardcourt slam? :lol:

Har-Tru
08-15-2009, 11:46 PM
It may not be this year, but he will be #1 eventually. He is the best hard court player in the world right now.

:haha:

Aenea
08-15-2009, 11:47 PM
Had Murray not been injured back in 2007 for about 2 months he may have reached this spot way earlier. So this is not something unexpected. But even being #2 Murray is still the same slamless player. Ranking is nothing compared to winning Slams.
Anyway congratulations for moving up in the ranking.

Gaudio2004
08-15-2009, 11:48 PM
great job as usual Voo.

interesting that of these players, only the last four didn't win a slam.

Goran Ivanisevic won a Slam. :)

Burrow
08-15-2009, 11:49 PM
Goran Ivanisevic won a Slam. :)

Did he dispute that?

amonb
08-15-2009, 11:52 PM
:haha:No fed is........ :haha:

This is Sparta
08-15-2009, 11:57 PM
It may not be this year, but he will be #1 eventually. He is the best hard court player in MM tournaments right now.

Fixed

Sapeod
08-16-2009, 12:22 AM
#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.

Do you also know that that the rankings are based over one year? Not a whole career :retard:

murray #2 lol what a disgrace
Is this congrats sarcastic or what ... ? This is one of the saddest period of this sport .

If is God so great as they talking he would never allow that that ( I can found a word how describe him ) win a slam...

tennis is touch the bottom

Why Jo? Why play those set points horrible and allow this to happen? Sad day for tennis.
everytime a mug like murray ascends a place in the ATP, I die a little inside.

Today is a sad day for tennis.

ATP = http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
The ATP is slowly becoming WTA-like. What a disgrace

Keep crying haters :nerner:

I am an absolute moron who doesn't know what a bath or a shower is because I've never seen one in my life
Fixed.

guga2120
08-16-2009, 12:50 AM
Fixed

Master Series are not MM, that is completly ridiculous. He has been more consistent overall than Nadal and Federer on hc's in the last year. He just has not done it in a slam, yet.

GlennMirnyi
08-16-2009, 12:53 AM
Not nice, actually.

green25814
08-16-2009, 12:56 AM
Good stuff Muz. Well deserved.

ballbasher101
08-16-2009, 01:27 AM
Arise Sir Muzza :worship:. As the Eagles said, there is a new kid in town. To the haters I say this: Eat your hearts out.

Har-Tru
08-16-2009, 01:30 AM
Goran Ivanisevic won a Slam. :)

That's what I said.

Burrow
08-16-2009, 01:31 AM
Becoming number 2 because Nadal was injured is rather embarrassing. :o

Har-Tru
08-16-2009, 01:32 AM
No fed is........ :haha:

What does Fed have to do with anything? But now that you mention him, he is a better HC player than Murray. So is Nadal. They are the current holders of the HC slams.

connectolove
08-16-2009, 01:33 AM
I thought that he had to win the tournament to become #2 ... if not, this is a SAD day in tennis :-((

ballbasher101
08-16-2009, 01:34 AM
Becoming number 2 because Nadal was injured is rather embarrassing. :o


Are you Scottish :confused:.

scoobs
08-16-2009, 01:39 AM
Congrats Andy - at least if you go no higher and win no slams, now they can call you "former world #2 .... " on Sky Sports when you're doing punditry for them.

It's a nice to have but not really the point, is it.

Still, it's a moment in tennis history to see the Federer-Nadal duopoly broken at the top of the rankings for a moment at least.

HKz
08-16-2009, 01:48 AM
So where is RAFAwon09usopen amongst all this conversation? I thought Rafalafa was going to be BY FAR the freshest player on the ATP and absolutely **** and humiliate the field through Montreal/Cincinnati/US Open?

...waits for more excuses....

Sunset of Age
08-16-2009, 01:50 AM
Congrats, Muzza Wuzza! :hatoff: :yeah:
Credits to whom deserves it, even though I'm not happy about it at all... hope Raf will be able to fix things at Cincy. ;)

ballbasher101
08-16-2009, 01:54 AM
So where is RAFAwon09usopen amongst all this conversation? I thought Rafalafa was going to be BY FAR the freshest player on the ATP and absolutely **** and humiliate the field through Montreal/Cincinnati/US Open?

...waits for more excuses....


I think he has crawled back into the hole from whence he came :D.

Corey Feldman
08-16-2009, 01:56 AM
Are you Scottish :confused:.he's a young Turk

ballbasher101
08-16-2009, 02:00 AM
he's a young Turk


I think you are on to something.

danieln1
08-16-2009, 02:01 AM
ATP reaches a new low... Murray is the most boring player, in my opinion, and itīs unfair to Rafael Nadal, the Australian Open champion, to be number 3 (and I donīt even like Nadal) and a slamless player be number 2... But if Murray wins a slam, which is very unlikely, then heīll have a slam to back up his ranking

Forehander
08-16-2009, 02:09 AM
this thread is gonna be a mecca for bitterness

but i'll say congrats to the Scottish kid, world #2, well done son :yeah:

Your signature :haha::worship:

Arkulari
08-16-2009, 02:11 AM
congrats to Muzza, seems like Roger wasn't the only one to benefit from Rafa's injury :sad: :sad:
it's quite weird to see a different name there at the top, after four years of Fedal dominance :p

HKz
08-16-2009, 02:11 AM
ATP reaches a new low... Murray is the most boring player, in my opinion, and itīs unfair to Rafael Nadal, the Australian Open champion, to be number 3 (and I donīt even like Nadal) and a slamless player be number 2... But if Murray wins a slam, which is very unlikely, then heīll have a slam to back up his ranking

Yes, it is quite strange to have a player who has won one of this year's slams and five other previous slam titles to be ranked underneath someone who has only reached one final, but look, Murray has won a lot of the bigger hardcourt events outside of Grand Slams and has had a semfinal showing at Wimbledon and his points from last year's USO final are still active... So look, if you really disagree with Andy's rise to number two, then practically you are saying points SHOULD ONLY be determined from Grand Slam performances, mainly Grand Slam champions or you are suggesting that rankings should be decided on all the current players overall career, and if that was the case, Federer would have never dropped to number two. Fact is, Andy Murray has been the second best overall player this year, or else he would have never collected these points he has obtained. Not to mention, ironically Nadal only did better than Murray at one Grand Slam this year, as in the Australian Open. At the French Open, Andy still got a round better than Nadal and obviously went deep into Wimbledon while Nadal had nothing.

orangehat
08-16-2009, 02:13 AM
congrats Murray. now win a bloody slam or you'll just be another Tommy Haas.

I'd have a slamless Haas over a slam Murray anyday.

betowiec
08-16-2009, 02:24 AM
lets take the next step Andy
inevitable;)

iSzavay.
08-16-2009, 03:11 AM
:worship: Andy. Wow! Nice job, it had been so long with Fedal! I can't say I see him staying too long for now, but in two or three years I think he will have passed Federer or Nadal or both completely.

whattheheck
08-16-2009, 03:50 AM
Murray could go back to number 3 if he loses early at US Open.

tea
08-16-2009, 03:56 AM
Congrats champ!:worship: Fully deserved.
And he is the only player who is allowed to switch Fed at the top of the rankings.:D In 2-3 years of course.:p

MrChopin
08-16-2009, 04:11 AM
Murray has gotta be the favorite for the US Open, I think, given his performances at hard court Masters. I am a Federer fan and I actually don't like Murray, but I would say Murray has the best chance of winning, followed by Federer, then Djokovic, Nadal, Del Potro, and Roddick about tied.

If Murray DOES win the US Open, he has a really good chance of hitting #1.

And what happens if JMdP beats Murray tomorrow? Murray is unproven at the biggest stage, it's that simple. He was the favorite to win AO '09, talked about throughout Wimbledon... Until Federer loses early in a slam, you have to back him against anyone but Nadal. Fed is 5x champ at USO, it's the slam that always brings out his best, and he destroyed Murray there last year. Fed is still the favorite. An early loss in Cincy won't change that. Murray as #2 and winning more hardcourt TMS won't change that.

It may not be this year, but he will be #1 eventually. He is the best hard court player in the world right now.

What does that mean if he never wins a slam?

***

By all means though, congrats to Murray! He and Fed should be assured opposite sides of the draw for the remainder of the year, so hopefully he keeps it, and I'm glad he beat Djokovic there though Murray needs to work on his clay game.

Serenidad
08-16-2009, 04:15 AM
And what happens if JMdP beats Murray tomorrow? Murray is unproven at the biggest stage, it's that simple. He was the favorite to win AO '09, talked about throughout Wimbledon... Until Federer loses early in a slam, you have to back him against anyone but Nadal. Fed is 5x champ at USO, it's the slam that always brings out his best, and he destroyed Murray there last year. Fed is still the favorite. An early loss in Cincy won't change that. Murray as #2 and winning more hardcourt TMS won't change that.



What does that mean if he never wins a slam?

***

By all means though, congrats to Murray! He and Fed should be assured opposite sides of the draw for the remainder of the year, so hopefully he keeps it, and I'm glad he beat Djokovic there though Murray needs to work on his clay game.

I'm a Murray fan and I agree. Murray has faltered all year when being in the best form and the favorite. I'm frustrated, but he is still going to bring a saw and a steel rod tomorrow for Del Trio.

BigJohn
08-16-2009, 05:03 AM
Beat Djokovic to #2. What telling times.

Murray catches up and beats Djokovic to #2.
Nadal falls out of Top #2 first time in forever even before Federer falls out.
Federer is #1 again.

Telling times? It's only shows that Murray is more a regular player than Djokovic. Murray yoinked the #2 spot as soon he had a chance to do it, Djokovic could not on a couple of tries. It's about being a Spartan or something like that.

#2 without a Grand Slam. Weak era.

#1 has 15 grand slam. #2 has 0 grand slams. #3 has 6 grand slams. #4 has 1 grand slam. #5 has 1 grand slam. .

Spot the ODD one out.

Young players are still allowed to move up the rankings...

Best player in the world currently

Once again the ATP ranking lies , Murray should be the number one

The South African Airways ATP Rankings period is the immediate past 52 weeks. Means longer than currently.

Federer stayed longer as number 1 than nadal at number 2
(fed n°1 january 2004 - Nadal n°2 Mars 2005)

Poor Nadal, gone with the wind!

So does that mean that the Nadal era is over? Cause if it is, it was not an era.

He --- so poor. If no injury, Nadal maybe still the No 1 and 3000 points over FED

If... maybe... :rolleyes:

Here is the list of No. 2 players who didn't reach No. 1 (Open Era):

Manuel Orantes(23.08.1973)
Guillermo Vilas (30.04.1975)
Ken Rosewall (30.04.1975) :scratch:
Arthur Ashe (10.05.1976)
Michael Stich (22.11.1993)
Goran Ivanisevic (4.07.1994)
Michael Chang (9.09.1996)
Petr Korda (2.02.1998)
Alex Corretja (1.02.1999)
Magnus Norman (12.06.2000)
Tommy Haas (13.05.2002)
Andy Murray (17.08.2009)

Among these players only Haas didn't play in Grand Slam final, we can say "the weakest No. 2" in history :o

I'm glad none of the recent ones (93 to now) got to #1. It would look WTish.

He makes fed look like a fucking idiot when they play together. Fed played in a weak era before murray came along. Fact!!!

So this is now the Murray era? Wow.

gaudio is gs winner and only rank 314 WTF !?!?!? and Muzza rank 2 with 0 GS titel

Yeah... what about Laver? He's not dead and he has many more titels than Gaudio.


So where is RAFAwon09usopen amongst all this conversation? I thought Rafalafa was going to be BY FAR the freshest player on the ATP and absolutely **** and humiliate the field through Montreal/Cincinnati/US Open?

...waits for more excuses....

I think he has crawled back into the hole from whence he came :D.

No no no... He's gathering quotes so he'll own even more people when Rafa wins the USO.

hilluis
08-16-2009, 05:48 AM
Andy Murray - "I played consistently well this year and obviously Rafa had an injury but it was just really Wimbledon that he missed.
"I also took quite a big break after Wimbledon, so bar winning a slam, I've done enough to justify being two and getting closer to hopefully one day becoming number one."

It would have been prudent to perhaps mention the 800 Olympic pts which Rafa could not defend.

Deivid23
08-16-2009, 06:17 AM
One heck of a player this Scot

Clydey
08-16-2009, 06:17 AM
Andy Murray - "I played consistently well this year and obviously Rafa had an injury but it was just really Wimbledon that he missed.
"I also took quite a big break after Wimbledon, so bar winning a slam, I've done enough to justify being two and getting closer to hopefully one day becoming number one."

It would have been prudent to perhaps mention the 800 Olympic pts which Rafa could not defend.

What does that have to do with anything? The points would still have dropped off and he would be in the same position. The Olympics are irrelevant.

hilluis
08-16-2009, 06:29 AM
I thought Nadal dropped 800 pts from the Olympics......ie, he couldnt defend those 800 pts?

BigJohn
08-16-2009, 06:40 AM
Andy Murray - "I played consistently well this year and obviously Rafa had an injury but it was just really Wimbledon that he missed.
"I also took quite a big break after Wimbledon, so bar winning a slam, I've done enough to justify being two and getting closer to hopefully one day becoming number one."

It would have been prudent to perhaps mention the 800 Olympic pts which Rafa could not defend.

Nobody could defend their Olympics pts...

HattonWBA
08-16-2009, 07:18 AM
Congrats Muzza

Byrd
08-16-2009, 08:24 AM
Congrats Muzza, only 1 spot 2 go. This threads attracts too many mugs, like a fly to a light.

Bargearse
08-16-2009, 08:55 AM
Congrats Muzza, only 1 spot 2 go. This threads attracts too many mugs, like a fly to a light.

More like flies to shit. Good job Murray. :clap2:

This is Sparta
08-16-2009, 09:02 AM
Nope,it's just full of Mugraytards. Must be hard to watch that extreme pushing match after match :lol:

amonb
08-16-2009, 09:39 AM
Nope,it's just full of Mugraytards. Must be hard to watch that extreme pushing match after match :lol:You know i would be gutted if i was a fan of somebody other than muzza or del pony cos i got something to look forward to tonight!!!! Great time to be a Murray fan!!!! Feeling gooooooood!!! :)

Laba
08-16-2009, 09:52 AM
Tards runnin' wild. Let's see how long it lasts.

Congrats, Murray.

amonb
08-16-2009, 09:55 AM
Tards runnin' wild. Let's see how long it lasts.

Congrats, Murray.Probably another 5/6 years!!!!:banana:

fsoica
08-16-2009, 09:57 AM
what i mean is, apart from last year's usopen SF (and maybe their aussie's encounter 2 years ago), muzza has not played any epic against Nadal.

All those epics the Spaniard played during the last 4 years against Federer, Djokovic and different other players have gradually affected both his knees.

and now here it is this strange looking, zombie-like player that Murray is, with a 2-7 record against Rafael, coming and taking the no. 2 spot from Nadal.

At least if his battles against the spaniard would have been war-like as those of Rafa against Fed, djok, ferrer, verdasco, davydenko or blake. But most of the time Muzza was not able to be competitive against the majorcan.

Maybe the ranking system is to blame also, but the freakin' scott has done nothing to earn his 2nd spot. At least Djoker fought and never was able to gain no. 2 spot against rafa on the field....what muzza has done to deserve it ?

This is Sparta
08-16-2009, 09:59 AM
You know i would be gutted if i was a fan of somebody other than muzza or del pony cos i got something to look forward to tonight!!!! Great time to be a Murray fan!!!! Feeling gooooooood!!! :)

It's not much of a surprise to see Mugray and Del Mugtro in a small tournament final, so...right now, Murray=a bigger joke than Safina

amonb
08-16-2009, 10:04 AM
It's not much of a surprise to see Mugray and Del Mugtro in a small tournament final, so...right now, Murray=a bigger joke than SafinaI feeeeeeeeeel gooooooooooood!!!!!

mashamaniac
08-16-2009, 10:05 AM
Obviously the ranking system is the one to blame... it's not good for tennis!

crazillo
08-16-2009, 10:12 AM
If he wins Montreal, Cincy and the US Open he might become #1. Don't think this is gonna happen, but you never know. ;-)

Vaccine
08-16-2009, 10:12 AM
Andy Murray - "I played consistently well this year and obviously Rafa had an injury but it was just really Wimbledon that he missed.
"I also took quite a big break after Wimbledon, so bar winning a slam, I've done enough to justify being two and getting closer to hopefully one day becoming number one."

It would have been prudent to perhaps mention the 800 Olympic pts which Rafa could not defend.

it only shows what a big jerk he is. it took Nadal a slam and couple of MS to get no2. Murray waited for Rafa's injury and now he's gloating.
Yeah congrats champ :worship:

This is Sparta
08-16-2009, 10:12 AM
A slamless Murray at #2 just confirms the theory that this is a mug era. Do you imagine pushers like Mugray, Simug, etc, in another era? :lol: What a joke

ballbasher101
08-16-2009, 10:23 AM
what i mean is, apart from last year's usopen SF (and maybe their aussie's encounter 2 years ago), muzza has not played any epic against Nadal.

All those epics the Spaniard played during the last 4 years against Federer, Djokovic and different other players have gradually affected both his knees.

and now here it is this strange looking, zombie-like player that Murray is, with a 2-7 record against Rafael, coming and taking the no. 2 spot from Nadal.

At least if his battles against the spaniard would have been war-like as those of Rafa against Fed, djok, ferrer, verdasco, davydenko or blake. But most of the time Muzza was not able to be competitive against the majorcan.

Maybe the ranking system is to blame also, but the freakin' scott has done nothing to earn his 2nd spot. At least Djoker fought and never was able to gain no. 2 spot against rafa on the field....what muzza has done to deserve it ?

I have four words for you, EAT YOUR HEART OUT. Murray won the points that have taken him to number two, no one donated points to him. The amount of jealousy on this board is frightening.

Sapeod
08-16-2009, 10:39 AM
The anmount of bitterness and jealousy on this fucking place is retarded :lol: What has he done to deserve the ranking? Won points, that's what :wavey: Stupid thread.

Tom Paulman
08-16-2009, 10:42 AM
Good for Murray.

Good for tennis. :yeah:

chjossic
08-16-2009, 11:05 AM
Yeah .. good news for the Tour!
His progression calls for respect, the way he has improved over the last 18 months is amazing... Play & Mind altogether.
Djoko is left stripping off his clothes to make some news :)

So congrats were they're due :worship:

Clydey
08-16-2009, 12:13 PM
what i mean is, apart from last year's usopen SF (and maybe their aussie's encounter 2 years ago), muzza has not played any epic against Nadal.

All those epics the Spaniard played during the last 4 years against Federer, Djokovic and different other players have gradually affected both his knees.

and now here it is this strange looking, zombie-like player that Murray is, with a 2-7 record against Rafael, coming and taking the no. 2 spot from Nadal.

At least if his battles against the spaniard would have been war-like as those of Rafa against Fed, djok, ferrer, verdasco, davydenko or blake. But most of the time Muzza was not able to be competitive against the majorcan.

Maybe the ranking system is to blame also, but the freakin' scott has done nothing to earn his 2nd spot. At least Djoker fought and never was able to gain no. 2 spot against rafa on the field....what muzza has done to deserve it ?

5 of Nadal's wins came when Murray wasn't the player he is now. Who are you kidding? I doubt you'd bet good money on Nadal if they meet at the US Open.

As for what Murray has done to deserve it. How about 5 of the last 6 HC Masters final, with 3 wins (possibly 4 by tonight). How about the finals of the US Open and the Semis of Wimbledon?

Eliande
08-16-2009, 12:16 PM
Maybe the ranking system is to blame also, but the freakin' scott has done nothing to earn his 2nd spot. At least Djoker fought and never was able to gain no. 2 spot against rafa on the field....what muzza has done to deserve it ?

Nothing! He doesn't deserve to be there at all!

Sapeod
08-16-2009, 12:17 PM
Nothing! He doesn't deserve to be there at all!
I hope you're not serious. I really hope you aren't >_>

murray_2k8
08-16-2009, 12:22 PM
:lol: Let the haters hate. If Murray didnt deserve the spot he wouldnt be there. Strange that the rankings system has been so commendable while Fed and Nadal dominated it for 4 years, but the day that domination ends due to Nadals over-exertion, suddenly its horrificly flawed :confused: Nice logic :yeah:

Miss Molly
08-16-2009, 12:31 PM
Murray totally deserves it. Nadal's knees would have been shot with or without epic matches vs Fed and Djok because of the way he plays. His style has been a blessing and a curse. Murray has totally changed his game after going through a myriad of coaches and has got himself in excellent physical condition while improving his mental game tremendously. He may not have a slam yet but he's done very well and I'm happy for him.

Raquel
08-16-2009, 02:19 PM
Congrats Andy :D

thrust
08-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Obviously the ranking system is the one to blame... it's not good for tennis!

I agree! Injured players should not be so severely punished for being unable to defend points from last years's tournament win. No player should lose Olympic points, when there is no Olympic Games the following year. Without Rafa's injury, and idiotic ranking system, he would still be #1.

Certinfy
08-16-2009, 02:38 PM
I bet they did...

Burrow
08-16-2009, 02:39 PM
Yes, Murray was lucky that Nadal got injured but nothing can be done about it.

Guga_fan
08-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Nadal got injured because of his own game, it's his fault, and Murray's got nothing to do with it, he did his part and deserve every point he has and to be the 2nd in the world right now.

Martin
08-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Well done Andy, fantastic achievement :)

Never thought I'd see a Scot at number two in the world

Jaz
08-16-2009, 03:04 PM
Though congrats are in order. I think there's something hollow about this. No one truly believe Murray is as good as player as Nadal.

And secondly, he's only been to one grand-slam final.... And regularly gets beaten by some very decent ball bashers. He's extremely passive in some games, where he feeds of the errors of the opposition, and not the winners. He is effectively like Nadal, but without the Power.

Black Adam
08-16-2009, 03:06 PM
Murray forum.

rofe
08-16-2009, 03:16 PM
Well deserved #2. Well done Murray.

River
08-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Great achievement by Murray!

But I'm gonna have to go with my gut instinct and say two things may happen.

1. Murray will win a slam, but never reach #1
2. Murray will reach #1, but never get a slam.

I'm not a big fan of Murray, but I'm trying not to be unfair. I just have this feeling that he's gonna get one OR the other, not both.

neme6
08-16-2009, 03:19 PM
as long as Murray doesn't get to no1 without winning a slam, it's ok! I doubt though that he'll take the no1 spot soon, as Roger only has the US Open to defend, nothing more!

rofe
08-16-2009, 03:21 PM
Bitter tears are bitter.

green25814
08-16-2009, 03:21 PM
Injuries are part of the game. Murray had his injuries, now Nadal is having his. This is part of why Federer is so special.

habibko
08-16-2009, 03:37 PM
and now here it is this strange looking, zombie-like player that Murray is, with a 2-7 record against Rafael, coming and taking the no. 2 spot from Nadal.

wow finally an objective post in GM, I approve.

Goldenoldie
08-16-2009, 03:56 PM
Congratulations to Murray, but I'm not going to go overboard. Nadal could get #2 back as early as the next tournament.

I do wish, though, that Nadal's fans would stop assuming that he would have defended all or most of his Wimbledon points, and never have been caught by Murray (or Federer for that matter) Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't, but you have to be in it to win it.

Serenidad
08-16-2009, 04:01 PM
The tour doesn't stop because a dead Porky is in the road. It just runs right over it.

Matt01
08-16-2009, 04:03 PM
I agree! Injured players should not be so severely punished for being unable to defend points from last years's tournament win. No player should lose Olympic points, when there is no Olympic Games the following year. Without Rafa's injury, and idiotic ranking system, he would still be #1.


You don't know how the ranking system works. It makes sense the way it is. Your post doesn't.


The tour doesn't stop because a dead Porky is in the road. It just runs right over it.


:spit:

:p

Serenidad
08-16-2009, 04:07 PM
There is only 1 woman that can stop BOTH tours. :inlove:

Well 2, but the other one doesn't care.

MacTheKnife
08-16-2009, 04:12 PM
The ranking system in tennis is one of the best in sports. It is unbiased and based solely on productivity over a 52 week period. Any complaints, then guys simply have to earn the points.

Aenea
08-16-2009, 06:54 PM
IMO there is no glory in climbing up the ranking only by benefiting from your main rivals misery (injuries, illness, personal problems etc) and doing (almost) nothing yourself. But this is not the case with Murray, he's really trying and he's doing what he can. Yes, he hasn't done much in Slams and Slams (and maybe Masters Series) is what counts. But he still has time to prove himself. As long as he doesn't reach #1 spot still being slamless I'm OK with him. It's not his fault that Nadal got injured, Nole has become a shadow of the 2007-Djokovic and the rest of the tour is just a bunch of mediocre/lazy players.
Maybe Del Potro should be singled out. He won the 1st set :worship:

chenx15
08-16-2009, 07:03 PM
No Ranking system is perfect. this is what we have and base on what it is Murray is the rightful number 2. if you can't take it follow another sports

Vida
08-16-2009, 07:08 PM
Murray totally deserves it. Nadal's knees would have been shot with or without epic matches vs Fed and Djok because of the way he plays. His style has been a blessing and a curse. Murray has totally changed his game after going through a myriad of coaches and has got himself in excellent physical condition while improving his mental game tremendously. He may not have a slam yet but he's done very well and I'm happy for him.

thats not how it works. tendinitis is slow pain and it gets worsened gradually by amount of play in a certain time frame. if he had not played Barca and Madrid, who's to say he would not at least defend the French Open? no, he was killed playing (more than anyone) during clay season and it got to him eventually.

Murray just did nothing wrong, though he could have done better at Wimbledon.

whattheheck
08-16-2009, 07:34 PM
If Murray doesn't beat Delpo, that says something.

moon language
08-16-2009, 08:08 PM
Murray added to Nadal's knee issues in Rotterdam this year. In fact it could be argued that that was the match that helped put him over the edge as he never really looked quite the same after.

tennis2tennis
08-16-2009, 08:32 PM
Murray forum.

I'm not a murray fan but i disagree this is the first time in years that the nadal/federer league domination has been broken it belongs in the gm

fast_clay
08-16-2009, 08:53 PM
No Ranking system is perfect. this is what we have and base on what it is Murray is the rightful number 2. if you can't take it follow another sports

yes... so many sh!te posts how unfair the rankings system is... but, how unfair is the protected rankings system...? for those seriously injured it is a shining light that other sports could and should copy...

anyone who wants to point fingers, point them at the systematic slowing down of the game... shorter points in tournaments every so often would have forced guys like nadal to adapt their style a little more... at it happens they dont have to and injure themselves...

The ranking system in tennis is one of the best in sports. It is unbiased and based solely on productivity over a 52 week period. Any complaints, then guys simply have to earn the points.

you cannot argue with a computer... the computer does not a care... listening to b!tching is not one of a computers strengths...

it has a job... it does it...

IMO there is no glory in climbing up the ranking only by benefiting from your main rivals misery (injuries, illness, personal problems etc) and doing (almost) nothing yourself. But this is not the case with Murray, he's really trying and he's doing what he can. Yes, he hasn't done much in Slams and Slams (and maybe Masters Series) is what counts. But he still has time to prove himself. As long as he doesn't reach #1 spot still being slamless I'm OK with him. It's not his fault that Nadal got injured, Nole has become a shadow of the 2007-Djokovic and the rest of the tour is just a bunch of mediocre/lazy players.
Maybe Del Potro should be singled out. He won the 1st set :worship:

there is no glory in #2 at all... the public has been brainwashed into buying this static #1 and #2 position due to what has happened in the last half decade... that tards who have never touched a tennis racquet believe this is the way it is and should be, so much so that they feel there is something f***ed up going on right now...

when, in actual fact, there is every chance that #1, #2 and #3 will swap countless times in the half decade upcoming... just as it has done in years past...

there is no glory in #2... for these guys, rankings dont really matter f*** all until you start nearing double digits...

i really worry about the people who are extremely upset or extremely happy about this rank of #2... there may a few ingredients missing in your lives... becoming #1 is where its at... even if for only 1 week... after that, who gives a toss...

it is merely a system to get a good seeding at a Grand Slam... that is all the ATP is for the top few...

osalsyst
08-16-2009, 09:10 PM
As much as I don't like Nadal sometimes, it's going to be weird not having a Fedal top 2. What do we have now...Murderer? :devil:

jcempire
08-17-2009, 04:23 AM
I wouldn't be surprise If murray come over Fed to No 1 by end of year

Sapeod
08-17-2009, 06:20 AM
As much as I don't like Nadal sometimes, it's going to be weird not having a Fedal top 2. What do we have now...Murderer? :devil:
Feduz.

Sapeod
08-17-2009, 06:21 AM
Murray forum.
And you're piece of shit threads deserve to stay in GM, right? STFU :wavey:

Bargearse
08-17-2009, 06:35 AM
It's absurd how many do not believe Murray deserves to be number 2. It's not his fault that Nadal was injured. If this reasoning were true, Federer would not be deserving of the French Open and Wimbledon titles this year because Nadal was injured. :shrug:

Goldenoldie
08-17-2009, 07:21 AM
I wouldn't be surprise If murray come over Fed to No 1 by end of year

I hope you don't mean this literally!:haha:

MariaV
08-17-2009, 07:24 AM
As much as I don't like Nadal sometimes, it's going to be weird not having a Fedal top 2. What do we have now...Murderer? :devil:

Oh dear!!!! :eek: :help: :help: Even Murdal would be better. :o

Congrats to all young Andrew fans! :hatoff:

whattheheck
08-17-2009, 07:38 AM
Oh dear!!!! :eek: :help: :help: Even Murdal would be better. :o

Congrats to all young Andrew fans! :hatoff:

How bout Fedurry:p

Kuhne
08-17-2009, 07:42 AM
Wow the last number 2 before murray has 6 slams to his name and the one before that has 15.. talk about a shitty number 2

Beat
08-17-2009, 09:34 AM
i don't like andy murray at all, but reading this thread made me physically sick, it's so spiteful.
oh, and using the words "mug" and "clown" is sooooo 2008.

Jōris
08-17-2009, 09:42 AM
Chokerer is next.

Eimear O'Mahony
08-17-2009, 09:44 AM
Congratulations to Andy. He deserves it. He's worked incredibly hard and has achieved some great results and I'm really happy for him he's finally reaping the rewards. Let's hope the no. 1 spot beckons soon :)

whattheheck
08-17-2009, 10:26 AM
As much as I don't like Nadal sometimes, it's going to be weird not having a Fedal top 2. What do we have now...Murderer? :devil:

Furry:angel:

Eimear O'Mahony
08-17-2009, 10:30 AM
Furry :lol: That's cute actually. I like it. Good on you whattheheck

Sapeod
08-17-2009, 11:43 AM
Furry:angel:
LOL. That's a good one.

McAlistar
08-17-2009, 12:01 PM
He wins with such reglurity im surprised AM hasnt been able to win a slam yet, he knows how to close finals out. Surely the US open will be his.

Bargearse
08-17-2009, 12:03 PM
Federmur

ballbasher101
08-17-2009, 02:14 PM
Hard work people is what has got Muzza where he is. Yes you might not like the guy but at least show him some respect.

decrepitude
08-17-2009, 02:36 PM
You know, all this "Murray would have been nowhere near #2 if Nadal had not been injured" is starting to get on my nerves a little.

Look at it like this: if we are going to go to "what-if" land, then what if Nadal had been fit as a lop all year? He would probably have won RG and Wimbledon, meaning he stayed at #1. Fine, but if you go with that argument, then Federer would have at least 1600 points fewer! This week he is 1790 points ahead of Murray, so it would mean the difference was only 190 points - and as Fed isn't interested in anything but slams, Andy would probably pass him in Cinci anyway. Rafa #1, Andy #2, Fed #3.

If, if, if. . .

gulzhan
08-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Congrats :(

Saya-nee-sama
08-17-2009, 03:00 PM
You know, all this "Murray would have been nowhere near #2 if Nadal had not been injured" is starting to get on my nerves a little.

Look at it like this: if we are going to go to "what-if" land, then what if Nadal had been fit as a lop all year? He would probably have won RG and Wimbledon, meaning he stayed at #1. Fine, but if you go with that argument, then Federer would have at least 1600 points fewer! This week he is 1790 points ahead of Murray, so it would mean the difference was only 190 points - and as Fed isn't interested in anything but slams, Andy would probably pass him in Cinci anyway. Rafa #1, Andy #2, Fed #3.

If, if, if. . .

Yes you're right.
I don't like him at all. But he's worked hard for this. so congrats :o

Ichiban1920
08-17-2009, 03:05 PM
Much better Murray at #2 then Nadull.

mandeep
08-17-2009, 04:10 PM
You don't know how the ranking system works. It makes sense the way it is. Your post doesn't.





:spit:

:p

:)

mandeep
08-17-2009, 04:16 PM
Wow the last number 2 before murray has 6 slams to his name and the one before that has 15.. talk about a shitty number 2

I think Nadal only had 1 slam when he became number 2. He had only 1 slam final, which he won and Murray lost his. So lets wait to see how he does as number 2 before we declare him shitty.

Black Adam
08-17-2009, 04:41 PM
And you're piece of shit threads deserve to stay in GM, right? STFU :wavey:

Oh dear God what a baby! For starters it's spelt "your". Secondly a 14 year old should watch his tongue when addressing elders.

Matt01
08-17-2009, 05:43 PM
:)


:)

Corey Feldman
08-17-2009, 11:44 PM
i like that for Fed,Murray fans - Murderer

i am a proud murderer :devil:

Sheepy
08-17-2009, 11:46 PM
Congrats! :woohoo:

BigJohn
08-17-2009, 11:48 PM
I'd wait and see if that 1-2 combo will last long enough to be worthy of Brangelinazation.

cocrcici
08-18-2009, 01:03 AM
:D murralien:D

tangerine_dream
09-09-2009, 04:34 AM
Congrats to Rafa. :devil:

delpiero7
09-09-2009, 05:11 AM
Well that lasted long! :D