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Montréal - ok, two matches. Not too shabby. Right?

thefly
08-07-2009, 09:51 PM
Well, that had to happen at some point ... Montréal Draw (http://rogerscup.com/men/english/PDF/MDS.pdf).

TommyB called this a "test" in the other thread. I disagree. That's putting it optimisically. I think we can kiss this one goodbye. You'll have to drag Tommy on court for this first round match, that's how motivated I see him for this one.

Pity, really.

TommyB.
08-07-2009, 10:10 PM
Ah come on. Yes it's a tough draw, I don't like it, but there's no reason to give up here and now. We can't get cakewalk draws all the time. ;) And something like revenge should be enough motivation right? :p

shadows
08-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Tommy to make the 1/4s, optimism all the way!

thefly
08-07-2009, 11:45 PM
It's not the overall tough draw. Hell, I wouldn't mind Roger in the first round, if that were possible. It's just ... as far as I imagine having gotten to know Tommy over the years, I see him already being annoyed as shit the moment he steps onto the court with Karlovic.

But maybe he'll prove me wrong ...

16681
08-08-2009, 12:01 AM
Well those that expect nothing are never disappointed and who knows we may get surprised :p

timoe
08-08-2009, 12:39 AM
Oh yeah Karlovic (who should be banned from tennis) in R1 (h2h 1-4), then maybe the one he just lost against (1-3) and after that it could be Davydenko (the small, ugly Russian) (1-4). He'll really like that draw. :D
Well, lots of opportunities to get revenge, Tommy always says that's important for him. ;)

el tenista
08-08-2009, 11:07 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:
This is the most worst-case scenario, Tommy could have chosen. This is...shit. Something like the super maximum credible accident :o
Karlovic-Gonzalez-Davydenko-Murray-Federer-Roddick/Djokovic
No way to see Tommy gaining points here., I really hope he proves me wrong...

Ad Wim
08-08-2009, 12:53 PM
Karlovic is not so much of a bad draw, he will win that one considering both forms. But Gonzalez will be very tough, hope he is tired if he reached the final today. Still I think that is 50-50, as well as Davy. Can't see him beat Murray though, but QF would be great already.

Hope it was true that LA and Washington were warm-ups and now he is going full pull. Then nice things can happen.

thedesertsun
08-08-2009, 01:12 PM
I think TommyB. is right.. indeed a tough draw, but it even could have been worse than that. Imagine, you get a mug in first round action and then Federer.. that's worse than Karlovic and Gonzo. I mean, against Dr. Ivo it is always the same... you have to serve well and try to get back some of that crushing serves.. if you do that, you have to win the point for sure.. and if not, then you have to be patient all the time and highly concentrated in the decisive tie-break at the end of eacht set. Sounds easy yeah.. but it is possible. And then Gonzalez.. revenge for sure.. think he can beat Del Pony today, so he will be tired.. also great chance in this encounter.. finally Davydenko, but who says that he gets to the R16? Well, played great last time, totally inform player.. but everything on clay, so why Mathieu oder even then Tommy could not beat him?

So, my first post here in the Tommy board.. absolutely my favourite player. Nice to see some other fans here and there ;)

tds

sundog
08-08-2009, 07:50 PM
Welcome tds!:wavey:

Tommy got a crap draw for sure, but he can do it. We'll just have to take it one match at a time. I can't help but be optimistic about every match he plays. GO TOMMY!!! :yippee:

thefly
08-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Yeah, good to have you here, tds.

The only good thing about such a draw is that there isn't really much room for disappointment. Each and every single win would be huge, so even surviving that first round could fill Tommy with much confidence, considering his personal struggle with players like Karlovic. And then I'd actually really like to see a rematch with Gonzalez, Tommy's always pretty fired up when a revenge is in store.

We'll see what happens.

TennisFan2012
08-09-2009, 03:03 AM
Tommy is capable of playing much better, for an entire match, than he did in the last two tournaments. If he decides to focus, he certainly is capable of beating Karlovic. He needs to return to using his excellent mind as a weapon.

Tommy fan
08-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Omg this draw.. Just do whatever you can, good luck!

el tenista
08-10-2009, 05:44 AM
WTF? No Tommy on Monday...
Tomorrow they have 1st and 2nd round matches, I really hope that Tommy will play on one of the two main courts...

thefly
08-10-2009, 09:50 AM
WTF? No Tommy on Monday...
Tomorrow they have 1st and 2nd round matches, I really hope that Tommy will play on one of the two main courts...

If not ... one more reason to be pissed-off mightily. :p

TommyB.
08-10-2009, 02:32 PM
2 matches for Tommy on Tuesday ... because he plays doubles with Radek Stepanek here. 1st round against Chardy/Simon.

el tenista
08-10-2009, 09:13 PM
Tommy plays his singles match on Court 9 (3rd match) and his doubles match on Center Court :o :fiery: :fiery: This is crap!

thefly
08-10-2009, 11:20 PM
lol, getting better and better. :p

Maybe they are obliged to put one doubles match on the center, and Tommy's match is the most attractive one tomorrow. Who knows. I'm curious why Robredo has to play on that court 9 as well - there can hardly be enough Spaniards on the second Stadium court. ;)

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Hi guys ,I'm back!

gotta admit nice reading to all missed threads while I was gone... Just got back from camping which lasted for about 8-9 days,this is not a place to express my feelings how the trip went,so I'd just say it was phenomenal!
There were hard days when I was in a dilemma should I or shouldn't I go home to watch Tommy. Sadly I really wasn't able,but I was in touch with my dad for every second when Tommy played!..Last year it was way to easier to get away and watch 'every' USO match that Tommy played,but this time I was far away from home and it was pretty difficult for me to miss it even it wasn't such a big tour,but to me every tour that Tommy plays is HUGE!
But enough talking ,I'm now aware of difficult draw at Rogers Cup,and have seen a lot of fear in here. I'm probably too optimistic when Tommy steps on court so I'm not that competent but at least we can hope!
I know the World would be happier if Karlovic retires but that's just the way it is,so I really hope Tommy will beat him ! Auf Geht's

el tenista
08-11-2009, 07:53 PM
Arrgh, I hate this Philipp Choketanker. 4 (!!) MP's in the 2nd set tiebreak, 2 on his own serve (gave one away with a DF :o ) and now probably tanks set 3. That's why Haas does not play now. Crap!

Good to have you and your optimism back Lugburz :)

thefly
08-11-2009, 08:30 PM
And now it's raining. What a beautiful week. :)

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 08:48 PM
thx,
gotta hate rain delays..

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 10:12 PM
guys,how the expectations are atm? Head 2 Head doesn't say too much in our favor,3 clay and 1 HC win for Karlovic vs Tommy's 1 win... I really think,Tommy can 'handle' him....

kohli :yeah:

now,Tommy time ! ;)

btw,no streams,right?

thefly
08-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Expectations? Well, mine are around the same level as the Mariana Trench ...

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 10:50 PM
Expectations? Well, mine are around the same level as the Mariana Trench ...

nahh:p you'll be surprised by the outcome,trust me ;)

shadows
08-11-2009, 10:52 PM
I'm here to cheer! Positive outlooks are the way to go, I firmly believe this'll go down as a win for Tommy

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 10:59 PM
probably nice start,seems like all the long points will be Tommy's. Few errors from Karlovic here and there,and we can be pretty happy.

thefly
08-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Tommy close to a bp twice ... let's see when Tommy's head will blow off. ;)

16681
08-11-2009, 11:12 PM
Well I'm back looking at scoring sites that don't even let me know whose serve it is :rolleyes: T.V. coverage in the U.S. doesn't start until the 13th :ras:

thefly
08-11-2009, 11:14 PM
Ah, df brings the break for Ivo. Go figure.

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:15 PM
nothings over yet :(

thefly
08-11-2009, 11:17 PM
Tommy kept his cool for six games, but by now I guess he'd had enough.

16681
08-11-2009, 11:19 PM
My scoring site shows 4-3 Ivo in the 1st Set.
Why does it bother Tommy so much to play Ivo?

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:20 PM
My scoring site shows 4-3 Ivo in the 1st Set.
Why does it bother Tommy so much to play Ivo?

Tommy doesn't like to play big servers...

shadows
08-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Tommy will still win, no worries

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:24 PM
Tommy will still win, no worries

amen my men

thefly
08-11-2009, 11:26 PM
Losing a set to Ivo is one thing ... but Karlovic's serve stats are far from impressivve: 6 aces, 2 DF's, 48% first serve - I know that this obviously doesn't represent his service strength completely, but still ...

16681
08-11-2009, 11:27 PM
Tommy doesn't like to play big servers...
Oh I understand now. I thought the way posts were being written that may be he had a problem just with Ivo. So you can add other names to the list like Sam, John,
Andy Roddick so it is just not Ivo. Since Tommy has played Roddick pretty well may be it is more of a case of just not liking to play TALL players who are big servers :unsure:

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:29 PM
yeah but eventually those 12/12 points won by Karlovic on his 1st serve must drop...

thefly
08-11-2009, 11:34 PM
yeah but eventually those 12/12 points won by Karlovic on his 1st serve must drop...

I don't think so. It's exactly this "virtue" that brought Karloviv these little bits of success that he's enjoyed here and there.

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:35 PM
I don't think so. It's exactly this "virtue" that brought Karloviv these little bits of success that he's enjoyed here and there.

at least we can pray for it :rolleyes:

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:38 PM
I hate when I'm not able to watch Tommy,it would be way too better to see what's going on. we need better service games without constant fear of breaking ..

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:42 PM
watch out Tommy there's another one :rolleyes:

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:45 PM
pfew..I can't stand this scoreboard,fight Tommy fight goddammit

16681
08-11-2009, 11:48 PM
My site shows Tommy is up, but I guess they are on serve. I wouldn't know because the site doesn't show it :ras:

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:50 PM
I'd give my life if Tommy breaks him now !

Lugburz
08-11-2009, 11:53 PM
funny Tommy won both points on Ivo's first serve while down 0-40 :rolleyes:

16681
08-12-2009, 12:00 AM
My site shows 5-4 Tommy, but I'm guessing they are still on serve :unsure:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:02 AM
Mae,6-5* Tommy..

16681
08-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Mae,6-5* Tommy..
Thanks :D My site is worthless, but I can't find any one that is better :sad:

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:09 AM
Thanks :D My site is worthless, but I can't find any one that is better :sad:

http://www.protennislive.com/frameset.asp?year=2009&wkno=32&lang=en&tabno=1&eventid=0421&ref=www.atpworldtour.com

it doesn't work for you?

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:09 AM
TB :scared:

16681
08-12-2009, 12:13 AM
http://www.protennislive.com/frameset.asp?year=2009&wkno=32&lang=en&tabno=1&eventid=0421&ref=www.atpworldtour.com

it doesn't work for you?
Sadly no because the Flash level is too high for the MSNTV2 :sad: My family is just now starting to talk about getting a "real" PC, but that doesn't help me any now :sad: :sad:

16681
08-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Great my site doesn't even show TB points :ras: :ras:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:16 AM
3 set points Tommy :scared:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:17 AM
7-6(3) Tommy!!

16681
08-12-2009, 12:18 AM
Come on!!!!!!!!! All right :yippee: Now lets get Ivo in the 3rd :D

thefly
08-12-2009, 12:18 AM
Tommy wins a set. I'm shocked.

But lol at Ivo, ending the set with a DF. :p

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:18 AM
come one Hasi!!

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:19 AM
BOOM! Now close this joker down!

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:19 AM
Boom Boom! Tommy Tommy Tommy, you can do it!

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:20 AM
Ivo is going fucking down :devil::armed::armed:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:23 AM
hmmmmmmmm,,YEAH! :devil:

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:24 AM
See that! Have faith in Tommy and he'll deliver. Up a break and on a roll

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:24 AM
And the break, come on!

Can I go to bed now you think?

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:25 AM
See that! Have faith in Tommy and he'll deliver. Up a break and on a roll

I like your spirit ,you're more than welcome here :hatoff:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:25 AM
And the break, come on!

Can I go to bed now you think?

I'd wait for just for a little bit longer ;)

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:27 AM
hold your service games Tommy, please!!

16681
08-12-2009, 12:27 AM
Thanks guys :D My scoring site shows 0-0 in the 3rd :ras: :ras: :ras:

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:28 AM
I'd wait for just for a little bit longer ;)

I agree, commitment to the cause for one thing :)

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:28 AM
If the games ga as quickly as these, i will :)
Auf geht's Tommy!

Gonzo was injured right?

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:31 AM
Another nice service game, 3-1!

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:32 AM
another hold,just few more Tommy,just few more ;) 3-1* Tommy

16681
08-12-2009, 12:32 AM
I hope Tommy can tire Ivo out in this 3rd Set :angel:

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:36 AM
Ouch, those were 2 virtual mps...

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:37 AM
halt halt halt halt.... halt

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:38 AM
15-40 and a 2nd serve, but no problem, if he holds his own serve.

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:39 AM
Luckily Tommy is menatlly very strong, but that should have been the decision already. And I want to go to bed ;)

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:40 AM
But another love game afterwards!

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:40 AM
another easy hold ;) 4-2* Tommy

16681
08-12-2009, 12:42 AM
Come on Tommy :) And a big thanks to all of you that are giving me the score--my site is way behind the Match :mad:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:43 AM
*4-3 Tommy..

halt halt! - checked ;)

5-3* Tommy...

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:43 AM
2 more please, ah i hate this thrill at midnight :p

16681
08-12-2009, 12:44 AM
Go Tommy :D

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:45 AM
It's crunch time Tommy, just hold steady and you're through ^^

Wins his service game to love, 5-3*

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:45 AM
And another love game. Noch einer!

16681
08-12-2009, 12:47 AM
Yes Tommy--one more game please :angel:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:48 AM
*5-4 Tommy will serve for the match! Auf Geht's!

16681
08-12-2009, 12:50 AM
Win it Tommy :D You have people missing sleep for you ;) I'm lucky it isn't even 8 o'clock here yet :p

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, super!

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Yes Yes Yes Tommy!!!

You got over your Karlophobia! Awesome result, time for revenge against Gonzo!

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:51 AM
GSM Tommy Haas :woohoo:

TommyB.
08-12-2009, 12:52 AM
Really nice, I never thought he would this one after set nummero 1. Well done Tommy! :)

thefly
08-12-2009, 12:52 AM
Well, fuck me sideways - Tommy kicked my ass. Hard. ;)

Sure, 49 % first serve on Karlovic's part certainly helped, but hell, that one feels good. Still, I think I'll keep my grumpy attittude up, seems to be working. :p

Ad Wim
08-12-2009, 12:52 AM
Told you guys Karlovic wasn't that bad of a draw. He's in poor form.
Great serving from Haas, finally. His serving dropped in the last two tournaments.

See you guys tomorrow ;)

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:53 AM
thefly,wo bist du? :D

16681
08-12-2009, 12:54 AM
:woohoo: But didn't someone say something about Gonzo being hurt? Tommy definitely owes Gonzo one for that last Match they played!

thefly
08-12-2009, 12:54 AM
thefly,wo bist du? :D

lol, open your eyes, dude. ;)

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 12:56 AM
lol, open your eyes, dude. ;)

nice reward,ha? mate.

thefly
08-12-2009, 12:59 AM
nice reward,ha? mate.

Yeah, love it all the more. But as I said, I'll try to stay pessimistic - although that's a little harder to do right now. :)

The possible Gonzo rematch is set for tomorrow at 7 p.m. local time on the second court.

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 01:03 AM
shame that won't be on CC ,but as long as that means live TV Coverage I'm TOTALLY ok with it ;)

16681
08-12-2009, 01:05 AM
Gee why can't the U.S. T.V. coverage start tomorrow :mad: :sad:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 01:07 AM
Gee why can't the U.S. T.V. coverage start tomorrow :mad: :sad:

I feel sorry for you,but at least your able to do something to watch it anyway. like going to net cafe and follow it live on stream? :shrug:

thefly
08-12-2009, 01:10 AM
shame that won't be on CC ,but as long as that means live TV Coverage I'm TOTALLY ok with it ;)

I thought there would be no TV coverage before Thursday ... but that's obviously only true for US TV. Looks like bet365 is on tomorrow!

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 01:13 AM
I thought there would be no TV coverage before Thursday ... but that's obviously only true for US TV. Looks like bet365 is on tomorrow!

bet365 is already on ;)

thefly
08-12-2009, 01:17 AM
Yeah, just noticed that. :p At first I thought, wait a sec, there was live coverage of the match and I missed it? But then I recalled the shitty court ...

Well, that's great, out of nowhere I realize that I will see Tommy tomorrow in moving pictures in a second round match. Me likey. ;)

Good night.

16681
08-12-2009, 01:18 AM
I feel sorry for you,but at least your able to do something to watch it anyway. like going to net cafe and follow it live on stream? :shrug:
What is net cafe? I have never heard of it. You need to understand that the area I live in is very much behind the times when it comes to just about everything :sad: :sad: :sad:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Yeah, just noticed that. :p At first I thought, wait a sec, there was live coverage of the match and I missed it? But then I recalled the shitty court ...

Well, that's great, out of nowhere I realize that I will see Tommy tomorrow in moving pictures in a second round match. Me likey. ;)

Good night.

lol :lol: ,'night :devil:

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 01:21 AM
What is net cafe? I have never heard of it. You need to understand that the area I live in is very much behind the times when it comes to just about everything :sad: :sad: :sad:

ahm..net cafe is a place where people go to work on the PC's. You pay for your time spent on the computer,usually great connection etc...

TennisFan2012
08-12-2009, 01:29 AM
Mae, can you get The Tennis Channel in your area? They have a lot of coverage this week, but we won't see Tommy unless and until he or his opponent is the highest ranked player at the time they are playing. And, even if Tommy is able to beat Gonzalez, likely he will next face Davydenko, not a big fan draw for US TV. Livescores is about it for us.

TennisFan2012
08-12-2009, 02:03 AM
What's this? Tommy is now on court playing doubles with Stepanek against Chardy and Simon? Wow, I would love to see that match. Simon is a Federer-style smooth player, and so great defensively.

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 02:15 AM
I'm afraid only scoreboard is available as there aren't live streams for doubles...

timoe
08-12-2009, 02:53 AM
Yeah those are the greatest wins, when you don't expect anything... I wasn't as pessimistic as some other guys here, but when I saw the first set going away as always there really wasn't too much hope left.

I'm just watching Gonzalez vs Raonic. The Canadian kid is playing some impressive tennis in front of his home crowd and Gonzalez, who isn't even playing poorly, is struggling, lost the first set and just saved breakpoints in the second. So, not sure yet who will be Tommy's opponent, it could also be the world number 679. ;) And if not I hope there will be two looong and exhausting sets for Gonzo. :D

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 02:56 AM
yeah Gonzo is struggling atm big time.
meanwhile our boy just won another match along with Stepanek in their doubles match 6-4 6-0 ;)

sundog
08-12-2009, 04:11 AM
Way to go, Tommy! I knew he could beat Karlo. Oooh, Gonzo just won. Rematch time. Step on his neck, Tommy! AUF GEHT'S!!

shadows
08-12-2009, 04:14 AM
Raonic really stretched Gonzo, Tommy will take full advantage tomorrow and avenge his recent defeat (not that he needs any advantage, he's going to win either way ^_^)

ouch
08-12-2009, 05:15 AM
:bigclap: Wow.
What a great morning waking up and reading this result at teletext.
And he won doubles too. :)

el tenista
08-12-2009, 05:50 AM
Great great great Tommy!!! Who will be with me here in today's night for the rematch against Gonzo?! :)

thedesertsun
08-12-2009, 08:43 AM
Great great great Tommy!!! Who will be with me here in today's night for the rematch against Gonzo?! :)
I think so.. so you can share your stream with me once more :worship:

Obvious a huge win for Tommy, after the first set went away as always.. :eek:

Tommy fan
08-12-2009, 10:31 AM
2 from 2 for Tommy!! :woohoo:
Nice to come home and see this :D

Almost Can't believe he won against Karlovic, and especially after losing the 1st set.. Oh well :D

Tommy fan
08-12-2009, 10:31 AM
Great great great Tommy!!! Who will be with me here in today's night for the rematch against Gonzo?! :)

in what time this match will be?

el tenista
08-12-2009, 11:03 AM
1 a.m. CET ;)

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 11:43 AM
Great great great Tommy!!! Who will be with me here in today's night for the rematch against Gonzo?! :)

all the way ,mate ;)

shadows
08-12-2009, 12:09 PM
I'll most certainly be here to support him this evening :)

rica87
08-12-2009, 12:31 PM
:woohoo: he won!!!
and now BEAT HIM! :angel:
Auf gehts!

thefly
08-12-2009, 01:02 PM
Way to go, Tommy. I'm also surprised that Tommy and Stepanek won their doubles match so comfortably. Both had to play their singles matches not long before, and at least one of their opponents stepped onto the court for the first time yesterday. So good work. I never liked Stepanek, but these two seem to make a pretty good team. Maybe they found together because they are neighbours in Bradenton, who knows. ;)

At first I liked the idea of Tommy playing doubles in Montréal, having at least one or more additional matches even if his singles first round hadn't turned out to be so successful, but now the schedule is getting a little full again. He also has to play doubles today again, and their doubles match isn't even properly scheduled yet, in the OOP it just says their match is still "to be arranged". :p

But whatever, I guess his complete focus will be on Gonzo tonight, and if he can keep up the consistency that he obviously showed in his service games yesterday, that one may turn out to be a completely different match than their encounter last week. And I will surely be here to watch it. ;)

Btw, weird that Gonzo won his first round with exactly the same result as Tommy did.

el tenista
08-12-2009, 03:31 PM
At first I liked the idea of Tommy playing doubles in Montréal, having at least one or more additional matches even if his singles first round hadn't turned out to be so successful, but now the schedule is getting a little full again. He also has to play doubles today again, and their doubles match isn't even properly scheduled yet, in the OOP it just says their match is still "to be arranged". :p

According to the official Order of Play (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2009/421/op.pdf), Tommy won't play doubles today so he can fully concentrate on his singles match :)
This means as well that he would play a possible match against Davy early on tomorrow because of the doubles match...But still a way to go ;)

thefly
08-12-2009, 04:04 PM
That's good news. Would have been impossible to squeeze that doubles match in there somewhere, with his singles match set that late.

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 07:09 PM
Can someone put in a few words how last meeting between Tommy and Gonzo went ?

timoe
08-12-2009, 07:23 PM
Can someone put in a few words how last meeting between Tommy and Gonzo went ?

Until 5:5 in the first set it was a high quality match, totally even, with good shots from both players. Then Tommy lost his serve (after 30:15 or so I think) and didn't find back into the match. The second set was played poorly by Haas, while Gonzalez was solid.

Overall Tommy let Gonzalez put too mich pressure on him with his huge forehand. He needs to find a way to be the aggressive player in the match today, maybe attack Gonzalez on his backhand and not let him play his game. Raonic did that very well yesterday and almost beat him.

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 08:41 PM
thx timoe, nice recap ;) Hope Tommy can win tonight !

shadows
08-12-2009, 10:14 PM
1 hour 47 minutes till revenge commences :)

Lugburz
08-12-2009, 10:15 PM
can't wait :devil:

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:02 AM
they are entering the court on bet365.com ;)

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:06 AM
for those who aren't aware of the streams:
http://http://www.atdhe.net/8394/watch-atp-montreal-gonzalez-vs-haas

16681
08-13-2009, 12:09 AM
I hope all of you will help me keep up with the Match. As you well know my scoring sites are always behind the action in the Match. And I have no other place to go for scores except for what anyone posts here ;)

timoe
08-13-2009, 12:19 AM
"No way... Where is the freakin' challenge when you fuckin' need it?... Das kotzt mich an ey!" ;)
Breakpoint Gonzalez - saved - 1:0 Tommy, come on!

16681
08-13-2009, 12:19 AM
Mae, can you get The Tennis Channel in your area? They have a lot of coverage this week, but we won't see Tommy unless and until he or his opponent is the highest ranked player at the time they are playing. And, even if Tommy is able to beat Gonzalez, likely he will next face Davydenko, not a big fan draw for US TV. Livescores is about it for us.
I do have the Tennis Channel, but after hounding my TV provider for years to get it I find it is mostly worthless :sad: :mad: The best coverage I have found is on ESPN2
when they are showing tennis which sadly isn't all that often now. Since American tennis has gone downhill the TV coverage is poor and I have noticed when I do have TV coverage that the attendance at the U.S. Tournaments are small. You know a lot of fans disguised as empty seats :p But the Tournament in Canada seems to be doing well.

shadows
08-13-2009, 12:19 AM
We're here for you Mae!

Tommy really doesn't seem happy out there, but he held so that's good!

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:25 AM
I think Tommy trying so much S&V isn't really a good sign. He lacks confidence from the baseline.

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:28 AM
lol, so weird, Gonzo completely hands Tommy the break to love, breaks his racket. Didn't see that one coming ...

3-1

shadows
08-13-2009, 12:28 AM
I think Tommy trying so much S&V isn't really a good sign. He lacks confidence from the baseline.

I disagree! I think it's a great plan, last time he didn't seem to be able to beat Gonzo's power with superior baseline control so this time he's closing out more points early...

...and he's broken!!!

16681
08-13-2009, 12:29 AM
We're here for you Mae!

Tommy really doesn't seem happy out there, but he held so that's good!
Thanks :D But I hate to hear that Tommy doesn't seem happy because when Tommy plays his best tennis anyone can tell that he is indeed very happy. There is just that "look" about Tommy when he is going to play well. The last couple of Tournaments I did see of him in the U.S. on TV it was like he was trying to fake the "look", but he clearly didn't really have it and lost both of those Matches.

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:30 AM
To love hold, 4-1.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:31 AM
I like when Tommy S&V sometimes,but vs Mr huge forehand Gonzo that could be pretty dangerous..Though I don't mind Tommy to be aggressive all the time.

16681
08-13-2009, 12:33 AM
To love hold, 4-1.
So far so good :D BTW I love this thread title :lol:

timoe
08-13-2009, 12:35 AM
I also like seeing some S&V. He does it so well, of course shouldn't to it 100 % but occasionally that's a very good tactic and something I missed in his hardcourt matches so far. Going to Gonzalez' backhand and asking him questions, that's fine. He won't continue hitting backhand winners all the time. ;)

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:36 AM
Ah, Tommy should have taken that game as well, taken the opportunity.
4-2

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:39 AM
wow.

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:40 AM
And S&V brings the rebreak against Tommy. Great.

I think Tommy hasn't hit a baseline winner yet.

4-3

shadows
08-13-2009, 12:40 AM
damn it, not much you can say about that point to get broken. Some kind of laser return and then a laser backhand from gonzo

timoe
08-13-2009, 12:42 AM
And S&V brings the rebreak against Tommy. Great.

I think Tommy hasn't hit a baseline winner yet.

4-3

How many serve and volley attempts were in that game? 1?

Never seen Gonzalez' backhand as strong as today in the last years...

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:43 AM
Gonzalez is playing suicide tennis again. Every shot for the winner. Some games ago he didn't hit the lines. Now he does again. Ridiculous.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:43 AM
Gonzo on the fire atm,Tommy needs good hold to love now to get back!

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:44 AM
How many serve and volley attempts were in that game? 1?


Yup, and that one brought the bp.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 12:48 AM
Actually,S&V is something what should be very very useful tonight vs this Gonzalez. He is hitting those winners like hell,and Tommy won't have so many chances from the baseline..

16681
08-13-2009, 12:48 AM
This set seems to be going downhill now. When Gonzo gets his teeth in a Match he can really hit amazing shots!

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:50 AM
5-5

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 12:54 AM
Hey Mae and any other US fans, Ferrer has just retired from the match with Nadal, so maybe we will get some TV coverage (Tennis Channel) of Tommy now!

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:55 AM
bp ... Tommy obviously thinking about all kinds of stuff now, except tennis.

Now it looks like he has a bleeding blister, physio was called.

shadows
08-13-2009, 12:57 AM
Oh Tommy I hope this isn't serious ><

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 12:57 AM
What is going on? Scorebosrd has been stuck at ad-Gonzo for a long time.

thefly
08-13-2009, 12:58 AM
Well, a blister is hardly serious, but it sucks when it's on the right hand and you want to play tennis. :p

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the info - is the blister on the right hand?

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:00 AM
Holy shit, the doc is working Tommy's hand with a scalpel. :p

16681
08-13-2009, 01:00 AM
Hey Mae and any other US fans, Ferrer has just retired from the match with Nadal, so maybe we will get some TV coverage (Tennis Channel) of Tommy now!
I hate to hear about Ferrer being hurt or sick? And I hate to mention it, but if Tommy doesn't win this Match we won't be getting any coverage of him anyway :sad:

thedesertsun
08-13-2009, 01:08 AM
Can you believe it.. my feeling says that Gonzo hits more backhand- than forehand-winners :confused:

Still 6-5 Tommy on serve now.. lucky escape. Break him now!

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:09 AM
Tommy somehow survives the game, 6-5.

But Gonzalez hits some unbeliebvable shots, you gotta hand it to him.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 01:09 AM
Tommy somehow survives the game, 6-5.

But Gonzalez hits some unbeliebvable shots, you gotta hand it to him.

:yeah:

16681
08-13-2009, 01:11 AM
What is going on please? My scoring site has been showing 5-5 FOREVER :ras:

EDIT: Not only is my scoring site show, but so is my equipment. My question was answered before I even got it asked :lol:

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:13 AM
TB.

lol, Tommy wants the doc to hit him with some spray, which obviously hurts like hell, and the umpire gives him a point penalty because of the time.

And Tommy to the physio: "You're freakin' crazy dude" ... :p

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:17 AM
2-5 in the TB

Another line from Tommy to the umpire before the TB:
"It's a wound, it's on my flesh! Give him a 5-0 lead if you want to."

Priceless. :p

thedesertsun
08-13-2009, 01:17 AM
Oh, this is so poor.. ATP-Rules...

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:18 AM
Tommy retires.

Because of a fucking blister?! Come on, that's just the reason he needed.

timoe
08-13-2009, 01:18 AM
TB.

lol, Tommy wants the doc to hit him with some spray, which obviously hurts like hell, and the umpire gives him a point penalty because of the time.

And Tommy to the physio: "You're freakin' crazy dude" ... :p

Kiefer was in the same situation in the quarterfinal of Gstaad, needed treatment but couldn't take a medical timeout - he retired because of that, being a set up. Tommy did the right thing by just taking a warning and then a point penalty instead.

But now he retired, too. :(

thedesertsun
08-13-2009, 01:18 AM
Right decision, Tommy.. simply riddicoulos rules and ump.

shadows
08-13-2009, 01:19 AM
very sad, tommy retires :(

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:19 AM
Fitting end to a horrible performance.

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 01:20 AM
Mae, Tommy is on TTC now. But if this blister doesn't stop bothering him, he's not going to be on long.

oranges
08-13-2009, 01:20 AM
:sad: Was it that bad that he had to give up?

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 01:21 AM
Really disappointing. He must be very frustrated; what an awful time for a blister.

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 01:22 AM
It was right where you grip the racquet. No way to avoid the pain.

16681
08-13-2009, 01:25 AM
Mae, Tommy is on TTC now. But if this blister doesn't stop bothering him, he's not going to be on long.
Odd I have never known Tommy to be one to get blisters much. Where was the blister? And he has retired now :sad:

EDIT: And again I get my question answered before I even get a chance to ask it :rolleyes: Has Tommy even retired from a Match due to a blister before? He has had everything else happen to him, but I can't recall blister problems?

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 01:26 AM
It was right where you grip the racquet. No way to avoid the pain.

Exactly,don't think it was only good reason to retire, it surely is on the bad spot. By the looks from his face it wasn't good and surely didn't looked to be good afterwards. :rolleyes:

thefly
08-13-2009, 01:30 AM
Well, he could have fighted on if he really wanted to, but he obviously had enough. He knew he couldn't put any pressure on Gonzo tonight again, and the crowd cheering at him losing the TB did it for him.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 01:32 AM
Odd I have never known Tommy to be one to get blisters much. Where was the blister? And he has retired now :sad:

Well,Tommy really haven't had any problems with blisters in past, but this one was all of a sudden on a very bad place.
When problems with elbow,shoulders,leg,brain passed,now we have fucking blisters!:(:(

Ich kann es nicht glauben :p

16681
08-13-2009, 01:34 AM
Strange two retirements right in a row :confused:

16681
08-13-2009, 01:37 AM
Well,Tommy really haven't had any problems with blisters in past, but this one was all of a sudden on a very bad place.
When problems with elbow,shoulders,leg,brain passed,now we have fucking blisters!:(:(

Ich kann es nicht glauben :p
Oh a "priceless" post :D But I don't know your last remark I can only handle English :sad:

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 01:43 AM
means- I cannot believe :p

16681
08-13-2009, 01:51 AM
means- I cannot believe :p
Oh I'm with you on that one :yeah: If it weren't for bad luck, Tommy would have no luck at all :sad: But I think he knew he wasn't going to win the Match anyway so why suffer any more than you have to? Plus a blister wouldn't have healed well enough not to bother him in his next Match even if he had continued and somehow managed to defeat Gonzo.

TommyB.
08-13-2009, 08:18 AM
Ah pity! First retirement of the year. :( But I can understand him, there's no reason to risk something at this point. Let's hope he can play Cincy without any problems.

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 03:34 PM
I don't blame him at all for retiring. If any of you play, you know you can't grip the racquet with a blister in that place, certainly not well enough to play against the best players in the world. I think he badly wanted to defeat Gonzalez and was in the match until he had no other choice.

TommyB.
08-13-2009, 03:49 PM
He said he would have retired, even if he had won the tiebreak. Tommy can't play tennis the next 3-4 days and his start in Cincy is doubtful at the moment, according to German press.

Lugburz
08-13-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't blame him at all for retiring. If any of you play, you know you can't grip the racquet with a blister in that place, certainly not well enough to play against the best players in the world. I think he badly wanted to defeat Gonzalez and was in the match until he had no other choice.

I second that ;)

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 07:54 PM
He said he would have retired, even if he had won the tiebreak. Tommy can't play tennis the next 3-4 days and his start in Cincy is doubtful at the moment, according to German press.

Thanks for the info. That's very bad news; not surprising, though, because blisters take a long time to heal fully, and if he comes back too soon, the blister will re-open. It might be good news for the Pilot Pen tournament, though! If he can't play in Cincinnati, maybe he'll want to get in a few matches before the US Open and if so, PP will be only too happy to welcome him.

I believe he would have won that match last night had the blister not appeared. Of course, that's easy to say, since it can't be proven.

TennisFan2012
08-13-2009, 07:54 PM
I second that ;)

Danke!

sundog
08-14-2009, 02:28 AM
He said he would have retired, even if he had won the tiebreak. Tommy can't play tennis the next 3-4 days and his start in Cincy is doubtful at the moment, according to German press.Crap. What did they say exactly? :eek:

thefly
08-14-2009, 09:29 AM
Crap. What did they say exactly? :eek:

Well, exactly what TommyB wrote. ;)

He didn't play doubles, so that should be proof enough that he obviously can't play right now. Would never have thought that this could turn out to be so ugly. Let's hope he's alright again next week.

Lugburz
08-14-2009, 12:33 PM
I think there shouldn't be problems for him playing Cincy,though can't tell how that will disorder his practice for it.

16681
08-15-2009, 11:54 AM
I think there shouldn't be problems for him playing Cincy,though can't tell how that will disorder his practice for it.
There will certainly be a problem with his practice leading up to Cincy :sad: I can not believe the bad luck Tommy has :sad: