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Nollie
11-04-2009, 08:31 PM
Let's make that 1-4 Friday :cool:

Jess22
11-04-2009, 08:51 PM
Good win :), don't think I can watch another Youzhny rematch though :tape:

whattheheck
11-05-2009, 12:01 AM
Yay! Simon for the final.

Truc
11-05-2009, 06:45 AM
In L'Equipe today (Bernès is covering Valencia, I love his articles again):
La victoire en parlant
Gilles Simon en a bavé hier pour battre Berdych. Du coup, sur le terrain, il a commenté son match.

LORSQUE GILLES SIMON souffre, quand il joue moyen-mal, il parle. Il parle tout seul, il parle à son coach, Thierry Tulasne, il se plaint, il s’engueule, bref, c’est la radio libre qui fait du tennis. « Je veux être sûr que vous comprenez bien ce qu’il se passe », rigole-t-il. Hier, on a tendu l’oreille et on a tout pigé. On a pigé que Simon n’était pas dans un grand jour et que Tomas Berdych lui faisait mal avec sa grosse artillerie. Simon disait : « J’en ai marre, j’en prends plein la gueule », ou encore : « Putain, j’passe pas une première ! » et aussi : « J’ai peur, je mouille, là », mais encore : « Je suis dans le rouge. » Et bla-blabla, et bla-bla-bla. Ah oui, vous devez savoir que, quand il dit une horreur, Simon met sa main devant la bouche. Ça ne sert à rien puisqu’il hurle très fort, mais c’est mignon. Simon le bavard, c’est un grand classique, mais en « voix » d’extinction. Car Thierry Tulasne lutte contre ce vieux penchant. « Quand il joue bien, on n’entend pas Gilles, a remarqué le coach. Il a déjà énormément gommé ce défaut, mais il s’excite encore trop entre les points. À ce niveau, c’est dangereux de perdre de l’énergie en parlant. » Ça l’aide peut-être à évacuer une frustration ? « Non, ça ne l’aide pas, pense Tulasne. Ça montre sa fébrilité à l’adversaire. Nadal ou Federer ne bronchent jamais (sauf quand Federer s’énerve contre le Hawk-Eye). S’il bavarde ainsi, c’est aussi que Gilles n’a pas encore assez conscience de ses forces. »
Un final difficile
Hier, malgré la victoire (6-4, 4-6, 6-3en 2h 18’), Simon resta jusqu’au bout dans « l’intranquillité ». Quand il servit pour finir, il dut sauver deux balles de break, les douzième et treizième du jour. « Je n’ai jamais été relâché. Après trois jeux, j’avais les poumons éclatés, j’étais tout rouge. Alors, j’ai raconté ma vie sur le court… » Ce qui est comique, c’est de regarder Simon, excédé, parler à Tulasne, qui le fixe en ayant l’air d’avoir 6 ou 7 de tension. « Si je lui dis : “Chut, tais-toi !” quand il est tout rouge, je vais l’exciter davantage, explique “Tutu”. Parfois, je fais aussi le mec qui regarde ailleurs. Mais Gilles, même quand il parle trop, n’en perd pas pour autant sa combativité. O.K., il jacasse, mais juste après il est à fond dedans. » Ça n’a pas toujours marché comme ça. « Il y a trois ou quatre ans, je pouvais arrêter la bagarre quand j’étais agacé, raconte Simon. Petit, c’était pire, je faisais des crises de nerfs sur le terrain. » Depuis un mois et demi que son genou le laisse en paix, Simon cause peu et flingue beaucoup : titre à Bangkok, quarts de finale à Shanghai, demi-finales à Lyon et, donc, quarts de finale, au minimum, à Valence. Ça, ce sera demain contre le vainqueur de Youzhny-Cuevas. On vous dira si Simon nous le commente en direct. – F. Be.
When G. Simon is struggling, when he plays rather poorly, he speaks. He speaks alone, with his coach, he complains, he gives himself a row - he turns into a tennis radio station. "I want to make sure you understand what is happening", he smiles. We listened carefully yesterday and we got everything. We got that Simon was having a bad day at the office and that Berdych's big groundstrokes were giving him a hard time. Simon was saying things like: "I'm sick of it, I'm getting a real beating here!" or: "Fuck, I can't hit a first serve!" and: "I'm choking!" and also: "I'm in the red". And bla-bla-bla, and bla-bla-bla. When Simon says a bad word, he puts his hand over his mouth. Totally useless since he yells it, but it's cute. Simon the chatterbox is a classic, but an endangered species. Thierry Tulasne is fighting this old tendency of him. "When he plays well, you don't hear him. He has already improved a lot in this regard, but he still gets too excited between the points. It's dangerous at his level to waste energy like that." It helps him to get rid of the frustration, maybe? "No, it doesn't help him, Tulasne says. It just shows to the opponent that he's nervous. Nadal or Federer never say a word (except when Federer gets all worked up because of the Hawk-Eye). All the talking also means that Gilles isn't fully aware of his strength yet."
He won in the end yesterday, but never felt at ease and had to save two more BP when serving for the match (BP #12 and #13). "I never felt relax. After 3 games my lungs were already stinging and I was all red in the face. So I started to tell the story of my life on the court..." It's very comical to watch Simon, furious, talking to Tulasne who looks at him as if he had a blood pressure of 6-7. "If I tell him: 'Shhh, keep quiet!' when he's like that, it will infuriate him even more. I also sometimes pretend I'm not seeing him. But Gilles never loses his fighting spirit even when he starts talking too much. He jabbers a lot, but 2 seconds later, he's completely into it again." It hasn't always been like that: "When I was too exasperated, I sometimes stopped fighting 3 or 4 years ago, Simon says. And it was even worse as a kid, I was throwing real tantrums on the court." Since his knee has been giving him a break for one month and a half, Simon rather lets his racquet do the talking: winner in Bangkok, QF in Shanghai, SF in Lyon and at least QF in Valencia. It will be against the winner of Youzhny-Cuevas. Let's see if he will do the live commentary again.

Truc
11-05-2009, 10:47 AM
It will be Youzhny.

A reminder for the newcomers:
2007 Wimbledon 64 Grass (O) M.YOUZHNY 4-6 6-4 6-3 5-7 4-6
2008 Indian Wells 64 Hard (O) M.YOUZHNY 5-7 4-6
2009 Queen's 16 Grass (O) M.YOUZHNY 1-6 6-2 2-6
2009 Tokyo Outdoor 16 Hard (O) M.YOUZHNY 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 4-6

turtle-rn
11-05-2009, 12:39 PM
:yippee: Real pigeonhood at stake this time. :devil:

lalaland
11-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Thanks Fran. I love this article too, always wonder what he said on court, now I know. Too bad we didn't get to see that match.




:yippee: Real pigeonhood at stake this time. :devil:

Geez, will you not get so excited :p .

lalaland
11-05-2009, 06:05 PM
First match of tomorrow at 1pm.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2009/573/op.pdf

Allez Gilles.

turtle-rn
11-05-2009, 06:36 PM
If Scotty was around you'd be in for some punishment :devil:
Yep, watching Scotty sacrificing a double wagonload of virgins is no fun but I can handle it.

Geez, will you not get so excited :p .
:secret: I'm intensifying my secret jinx Misha undercover operation. :angel:

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Yep, watching Scotty sacrificing a double wagonload of virgins is no fun but I can handle it.


:secret: I'm intensifying my secret jinx Misha undercover operation. :angel:

Don't you dare.

tedlesurfeur
11-05-2009, 06:48 PM
It will be Youzhny.

A reminder for the newcomers:
2007 Wimbledon 64 Grass (O) M.YOUZHNY 4-6 6-4 6-3 5-7 4-6
2008 Indian Wells 64 Hard (O) M.YOUZHNY 5-7 4-6
2009 Queen's 16 Grass (O) M.YOUZHNY 1-6 6-2 2-6
2009 Tokyo Outdoor 16 Hard (O) M.YOUZHNY 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 4-6

:angel:

rtgy
11-05-2009, 06:57 PM
Yep, watching Scotty sacrificing a double wagonload of virgins is no fun but I can handle it.


:lol:


:secret: I'm intensifying my secret jinx Misha undercover operation. :angel:


:rocker2:

lalaland
11-05-2009, 07:00 PM
:secret: I'm intensifying my secret jinx Misha undercover operation. :angel:
Oh, you are on a secret mission ;), go on then.


:angel:
Will Misha be an angel and not drive our little Poussin crazy tomorrow? Pretty please?
Poussin can't possibly turned into a pigeon, poussin can't even fly :o. And pigeon dish don't taste so good when there's no meat on it :p.

rtgy
11-05-2009, 07:08 PM
Will Misha be an angel and not drive our little Poussin crazy tomorrow? Pretty please?
Poussin can't possibly turned into a pigeon, poussin can't even fly :o. And pigeon dish don't taste so good when there's no meat on it :p.


OMG .....:haha: :rolls:


:worship:

MsTree
11-05-2009, 07:10 PM
Pigeon is NOT on the menu tomorrow :lol:

lalaland
11-05-2009, 07:17 PM
Pigeon is NOT on the menu tomorrow :lol:

:yeah:

Well, I'm glad we clear that up ;).

turtle-rn
11-05-2009, 09:18 PM
poussin can't even fly :o.
Actually it can..

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/14/article-0-030D204D000005DC-410_634x286.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/14/article-0-030D3085000005DC-365_634x286.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/14/article-0-030D20AA000005DC-534_634x286.jpg

but only for a few seconds. :lol:

lalaland
11-05-2009, 09:41 PM
C'mon now, that's no poussin, it's a duckling. Don't try to trick me :p.

MsTree
11-05-2009, 09:44 PM
Who is this horrible beast who has stolen lovely Natsume's login details? :p

rtgy
11-05-2009, 10:07 PM
Pigeon is NOT on the menu tomorrow :lol:

ohh it is..........exactly at 1PM right on time for the lunch:lol:
http://secure-us.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/b?ci=us-atpclick&cg=pdfs&tu=http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2009/573/op.pdf


ALLEZ POUSSIN!!! :rocker2:

lalaland
11-05-2009, 10:41 PM
No Yavor. Les said no pigeon to be served, so there won't be. Let's stick with her menu, no!? ;) :kiss:

rtgy
11-05-2009, 11:33 PM
No Yavor. Les said no pigeon to be served, so there won't be. Let's stick with her menu, no!? ;) :kiss:

I know perfectly well what she means;) I just find it funny.... "pigeon will play at the lunch time":p


http://scienceblogs.com/omnibrain/upload/2007/06/01-Pigeon.jpg

turtle-rn
11-05-2009, 11:54 PM
C'mon now, that's no poussin, it's a duckling. Don't try to trick me :p.
In French, poussin is a generic term which designate a young of any kind of bird, including duckling. :p

Who is this horrible beast who has stolen lovely Natsume's login details? :p
That's an impressive but totally natural behaviour from this hatchling. The short story behind those images is there :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1115403 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1115403/Pictured-The-moment-duckling-took-flight--quickly-nosedived-ground.html)

lalaland
11-06-2009, 12:54 AM
In French, poussin is a generic term which designate a young of any kind of bird, including duckling. :p


Oh, so it's like small poultry :p, ahhhhh, chick is way cuter, I'm gonna stick with that interpretation :).



I know perfectly well what she means;) I just find it funny.... "pigeon will play at the lunch time":p

I got your joke too, but I still think we should stick with Les' menu. Now I'm getting hungry, maybe I'll get some fried chicken for dinner :D.

Scotso
11-06-2009, 02:29 AM
I know perfectly well what she means;) I just find it funny.... "pigeon will play at the lunch time":p


http://scienceblogs.com/omnibrain/upload/2007/06/01-Pigeon.jpg

That has evil eyes. I'm gonna have nightmares. :(

Gilles better not lose to Misha again.

MsTree
11-06-2009, 09:13 AM
:devil: When I said pigeon was not on the menu it was an instruction to Gillou rather than a statement of fact :lol:

MsTree
11-06-2009, 11:09 AM
OK We're on! :D

Allez Gilles!!! :)

angela5
11-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Yay, finally get to see him play :D Good luck Gilles!!!

MsTree
11-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Strong start 2-1 :) Keep it up Gillou!

BlueLighthouse
11-06-2009, 11:24 AM
Do you have livestream link please? The one I have with livescorehunter doesn't work. Thanks.

MsTree
11-06-2009, 11:38 AM
Aw Gilles! Need to up your level a bit now! :eek: 3-4

BlueLighthouse try http://www.channelsurfing.net/ or http://www.fromsport.com/video-107371.html

angela5
11-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Do you have livestream link please? The one I have with livescorehunter doesn't work. Thanks.

I'm using bet365 :)

Jess22
11-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Gonna be a tough match, Youzhny is playing really well, that breakpoint :eek:

rtgy
11-06-2009, 11:41 AM
Do you have livestream link please? The one I have with livescorehunter doesn't work. Thanks.


http://www.fromsport.com/video-107371.html;)

or bet365.com


broken 3-4 :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

angela5
11-06-2009, 11:44 AM
5-3 :sad: Allez Gilles, step it up

BlueLighthouse
11-06-2009, 11:45 AM
[QUOTE=rtgy;9284301]http://www.fromsport.com/video-107371.html;)

Thanks. :worship:

rtgy
11-06-2009, 11:51 AM
4-6:rain::sobbing:

MsTree
11-06-2009, 11:51 AM
4-6 :( Come on Gilles!

Nollie
11-06-2009, 11:51 AM
:(

MsTree
11-06-2009, 11:59 AM
That was a bad call! :(

Jess22
11-06-2009, 11:59 AM
:o That was so out :sad: could have been 15-40

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:05 PM
Tennis Radio Station Poussin is on air :lol:

rtgy
11-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Tennis Radio Station Poussin is on air :lol:

:lol: :rolls:

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Well that evens up the bad calls :lol:

rtgy
11-06-2009, 12:14 PM
3-2:) so far so good:p

ALLEZ GILLOU! :rocker:

Jess22
11-06-2009, 12:29 PM
6 bps gone, another one take it please!!

turtle-rn
11-06-2009, 12:30 PM
Did you guys see Gillou shadowboxing à la Bartoli during the spectator medical time out? :tape:

C'mon Misha (:hearts:), don't be an ass, leave that set to Gillou! :p

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:31 PM
God what a game! I think I need a brandy! :eek:

rtgy
11-06-2009, 12:32 PM
3-3:(:mad::(

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:35 PM
Now use all that anger Gillou!

He needs to get his head together in this changeover :tape:

Jess22
11-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Awful game to give the break :sad: 3-4

rtgy
11-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Gillou:hug:
:smooch: c'mon mate:rocker2:

Jess22
11-06-2009, 12:41 PM
0/10 break points won :tape: At least Gillou is calmer now :lol:

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:48 PM
Cmon Gilles! Break him!

MsTree
11-06-2009, 12:51 PM
:(:(:(

Jess22
11-06-2009, 12:53 PM
:sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing: Gillou :hug:

lalaland
11-06-2009, 12:53 PM
:hug: :hug: :hug: Gilles.

Pigeon on the menu afterall. And he played like one, so tight and tentative, and Misha is so confidence and played so well. Just not meant to be.

rtgy
11-06-2009, 12:57 PM
well that's it.....:o 0-5:o
he's now Misha's official pigeon:mad::sad:

tennisace
11-06-2009, 01:03 PM
Simon lost to Youzhny in Valencia

turtle-rn
11-06-2009, 01:03 PM
http://yelims1.free.fr/Animaux/Animaux23.gif


Gillou :hug:

MsTree
11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
:bigcry:

lalaland
11-06-2009, 01:11 PM
Simon lost to Youzhny in Valencia

Nice recap ;).


http://yelims1.free.fr/Animaux/Animaux23.gif


wow hey, at least he can fly now :p



Ahhhhhh, sorry Gilles, this is so disappointing. Good luck in Paris then.

rtgy
11-06-2009, 01:13 PM
:bigcry:


:hug:

but-it's-ok
11-06-2009, 01:15 PM
11 BP's not one converted,just wasn't aggressive enough when faced with those opportunities:sobbing::bigcry:

Gillou:hug::hug:

BlueLighthouse
11-06-2009, 01:22 PM
:kiss:
:hearts:

At least he's cuter today.

MsTree
11-06-2009, 01:36 PM
He did look absolutely stunning today :hearts: You'd think his better haircut would see him through :lol:

Naina
11-06-2009, 02:39 PM
I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away

Sorry i couldn't resist :p
0-5 now that is :o
Misha :fiery:

Poor Gillou no matter we still have Paris coming up in three days time. I love french tornaments. All frenchies on centre court :drool:

tedlesurfeur
11-06-2009, 04:16 PM
:whistling:

Mint Chip
11-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Tsonga and Gillou in the same section of the draw in Paris :o

lalaland
11-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Paris: 1st match against Ljubo :bolt: or Seb.

He hasn't been doing so well against his nemesis lately, this draw is not helping :fiery:.

His potential path to victory not that we should look too much ahead past the 1st match : Tsonga, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer.




I was still hoping that he can get back to top 10 before today :tears:. But now, I'll be happy if he doesn't get past by others and drop out of top 15. Good luck Gilles, eventhough you don't have much lately.

Jess22
11-06-2009, 07:17 PM
Yeah unlucky that he got all the easy draws earlier in the year when he was injured/playing badly :sad: Really want to see him play Nadal hopefully he can finish season with some good results

Mint Chip
11-06-2009, 07:32 PM
Exactly. I thought he would get a decent draw being at home :shrug:

turtle-rn
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Are you implying draws should be rigged to favour home players? :spit:

Naina
11-07-2009, 07:15 AM
Good Luck Gillou :D. anyways I think Gillou does better with tougher draws and almost always screws up the easy ones :shrug: Plus luck has to balance out... he got the great draws now I guess it's time for the bad ones:p

Scotso
11-07-2009, 08:50 AM
Someone here didn't meet their virgin quota. :fiery:

turtle-rn
11-07-2009, 12:35 PM
Or the tennis gods were -again- relaxing in bubble bath and forgot about the match.. :p

Scotso
11-07-2009, 07:05 PM
Or the tennis gods were -again- relaxing in bubble bath and forgot about the match.. :p

:o!

You are a brave (or foolish) man to speak ill of the Tennis Gods. *backs away a few feet, looking nervously at the clouds*

turtle-rn
11-08-2009, 02:23 PM
You are a brave (or foolish) man to speak ill of the Tennis Gods.
Oh don't you know, the Tennis Gods' only weapon are tennis balls which get burnt up when they enter the lower atmosphere. *evil laughter*. Really, there's nothing to fear from them.

*backs away a few feet, looking nervously at the clouds*
*shakes fist at the clouds and grasps Scott back*


-----

Edit : Gillou & Jeremy are fourth on centre court tomorrow vs Aspelin and Hanley
http://www.fft.fr/cms/GetDoc.asp?Type=5&ID=12134

turtle-rn
11-09-2009, 04:03 PM
Gilles & Jim lost 46 6/3 7/10 :tears:

lalaland
11-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Gilles & Jim lost 46 6/3 7/10 :tears:

So close :(.

Gilles' playing his single match tomorrow, last match of the day on center court, not before 8:45pm.
http://www.fft.fr/cms/GetDoc.asp?Type=5&ID=12162

MsTree
11-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Gilles' playing his single match tomorrow, last match of the day on center court, not before 8:45pm.
http://www.fft.fr/cms/GetDoc.asp?Type=5&ID=12162

Yes!!! :dance: :D:D:D

but-it's-ok
11-09-2009, 07:39 PM
What a shame about the doubles,what a good effort though:yeah:

Brilliant scheduling for his 1st round singles:woohoo:

Allez Gillou:bounce:

lalaland
11-09-2009, 09:35 PM
Ljubo just beat Seb in 2 sets, so Ljubo it is.

C'mon Gilles, you can do it. Good luck tomorrow.

Scotso
11-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Aww, team Sexy Mofos loses again. :sad:

Ljubo is older than Jesus. Drop shot him a lot, Gillou.


*shakes fist at the clouds and grasps Scott back*

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

turtle-rn
11-10-2009, 01:09 AM
:hearts:

I badly need the audio of this.

whattheheck
11-10-2009, 06:47 AM
It's a pity he can't qualify for tour finals. Hope he plays well here.

leptiric
11-10-2009, 09:25 AM
will someone record the stream???
i have to go to my friends concert...:rolleyes: but now, seeing the schedule im not liking that idea so much anymore :(

Scotso
11-10-2009, 01:04 PM
Jérémy is so stunningly gorgeous.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 07:05 PM
Jim is totally :hearts: :D

I'm loving Jo's hair! :)

MsTree
11-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Here we go :eek:

Going with serve 2-1. Allez Gillou!

MsTree
11-10-2009, 07:56 PM
No one chatting?

Gillou's playing really well so far, hope Fran is there :)

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:03 PM
BREAK 4-2 :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:03 PM
:wavey: Gilles is playing just great,hope he can consolidate this break. :secret: I've got an eye on football scores too;)

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:04 PM
5-2:bounce: Allez Gillou:rocker:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:05 PM
:lol: I knew that would be your cue Yavor :hug:

This Gillou is very pleasing on the eye don't you think ? :D

Hold :dance: 5-2 :D

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:06 PM
5-2:D

:worship::worship::worship:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:06 PM
He's always pleasing on the eye but tonight I don't have words:speakles:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:10 PM
Wow :inlove: What a set! 6-3 and Gillou is on fire :hearts: Allez :D

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:10 PM
SET 6-3:bounce:

I'm loving this,superb Gillou,superb:worship: Keep it like this s'il vous plait;)

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:13 PM
:wavey: Gilles is playing just great,hope he can consolidate this break. :secret: I've got an eye on football scores too;)

:):p


:lol: I knew that would be your cue Yavor :hug:


:lol: yep I'm here too............as always:D :wavey:


This Gillou is very pleasing on the eye don't you think ? :D


well...........:drool: true:lol:


6-3:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

GILLOU ROCKS!!!:bowdown:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 08:14 PM
anyone has a stream from a none-betting site? I lost mine after the first set.:mad:

BlueLighthouse
11-10-2009, 08:16 PM
anyone has a stream from a none-betting site? I lost mine after the first set.:mad:

http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Livescore-Tennis.html

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:17 PM
Nothing on Fromsport?

Gilles :eek:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:18 PM
anyone has a stream from a none-betting site? I lost mine after the first set.:mad:

(ATDHE):
http://www.atdhe.net/9876/watch-atp-masters-paris-centre-court;)


broken...................:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:18 PM
I was afraid his level would drop after the dream like opening set:sad:

Allez Gillou:bounce:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:20 PM
WTF*** 0-3............................:o:mad:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 08:22 PM
Thanks guys, for the links.

Allez Gillou.

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Thanks guys, for the links.

Allez Gillou.


:D :hug:

Gillou:mad:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:26 PM
1-4:o:rolleyes:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:26 PM
Allez Gillou:bounce:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:26 PM
4-1 and a chance to get his head together. Allez Gilles!

lalaland
11-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Break back, Gillou, c'mon!

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:35 PM
Peter Fleming's making me laugh
"Was that French for nice serve?" :lol:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:37 PM
ufffffffffffff Lubo hold...2-5:o

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
Gillou you gotta hang on to your serve here and now,you don't want Ljubo to start serving first should it go to a final set:)

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Well done Gillou;) Now BREAK please,allez!!!!:bounce::bounce:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Good hold eventually from 40-0 up :tape: Allez Gilles!

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:46 PM
1 set all. Just that thrown away service game at the start of the 2nd set. Gillou :hug:

Game on! :D

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:46 PM
well.....eventually 3-6:o

lalaland
11-10-2009, 08:47 PM
C'mon Gilles. Please!

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:48 PM
Game on! :D


:D 1-0:):p

MsTree
11-10-2009, 08:54 PM
12 aces! But it's either an ace or a fault!

Allez Gilles, keep it up! :D 2-1

rtgy
11-10-2009, 08:54 PM
ace...2-1 pls:D


ALLEZ!!!:rocker:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 08:55 PM
2-1 up and Gilles is on equal terms with Ljubo on aces (12) Good stuff Gillou:D

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:00 PM
Break Him!!!!!!!

Allez Gilles! :D

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:07 PM
BP:bounce: Come on Gilles,snatch it:bounce:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:08 PM
D'oh:(

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:09 PM
Aw Gilles! :sad:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:10 PM
Oh s**t. The knee.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:12 PM
He's speaking in English? Weird!

Poor Gilles :( doesn't look as if he'll be able to finish the match :sad:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:13 PM
They are chanting his name, I don't think he will retire even if he can't walk.

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Gilles!!:scared::sad::sad:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:22 PM
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:25 PM
I don't even want him to hold at this point, just lose the match and stop damaging the knee.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:26 PM
Fuck me :tape: Gillou :inlove:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:27 PM
:D5-4:worship:

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:28 PM
Any other place he would have definitely stopped. Gillou,you're taking a huge risk here,oh I hate to see this:sad::sad::sad:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:29 PM
Fuck me :tape: Gillou :inlove:


:lol:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:29 PM
Gillou's inside the baseline for his 1st serves :eek:

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Any other place he would have definitely stopped. Gillou,you're taking a huge risk here,oh I hate to see this:sad::sad::sad:


true:mad: :tape:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:33 PM
Damn, Gilles, some touch you have. Damn, I hate to be enjoying this atm.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:35 PM
Tiebreak :eek:

Allez Gilles!

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:38 PM
I can barely watch:o!!

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 09:39 PM
Oh no is he injured? I was actually there for the first set and he was playing so well :(

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:41 PM
All the slices and drop shots coming off the shelf since his injury. Bravo, Gilles. Win it then. C'mon.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:42 PM
3MPs :inlove: I'm speechless :tape:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:43 PM
Om F G!!!!!!!!!

but-it's-ok
11-10-2009, 09:44 PM
OMG Gilles:speakles:

turtle-rn
11-10-2009, 09:44 PM
:spit: :worship:

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:45 PM
O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not possible. O M G. Gilles, you are my hero.
I can't scream in the office. But I'm screaming my head off in my mind.

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 09:45 PM
damn it what am I missing the suspense is killing me am on dodgy hotel computer with no stream.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:49 PM
That was probably the most mental match I've seen him play :hearts: Jeez I'm looking forward to doing highlights of that one!!! :D:D:D

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 09:51 PM
Please do cos I'm dying to see the set and a bit that I missed.

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:52 PM
:speakles: he did it.........:D:D:D

(is it me or Lubo simply wasn't playing at his level because of Gillou's injury?:shrug:)

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm so grateful for the fans to chant his name and cheer him on so much that he can't even consider retiring after that knee gave in. That done him well. I'm still on cloud nine. Bravo Gilles, even if you can't win this tourney, or the next match for that matter, you done yourself proud.

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 09:56 PM
I was sat the aisle across from the guys with drums earlier. They gave me a headache but wow they are good cheerers.

lalaland
11-10-2009, 09:56 PM
:speakles: he did it.........:D:D:D

(is it me or Lubo simply wasn't playing at his level because of Gillou's injury?:shrug:)

Ljubo was paralysed, he was pushing everything back to Gilles to wait for him to miss, and Gilles on the other hand didn't have a choice but to play some great stuff to end the point.

rtgy
11-10-2009, 09:56 PM
That was probably the most mental match I've seen him play :hearts: Jeez I'm looking forward to doing highlights of that one!!! :D:D:D




amazing.............I'm totally speechless:worship::worship::worship::worship:

that's not real...........OMG :eek::eek::eek: Gillou I'm so proud of you:hug:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 09:57 PM
I'm just recording it to DVD now, will set it encoding before I go to bed (although I'm watching that 3rd set again just to make sure it really happened :lol:
You're in for a treat! :D

Nastasie
11-10-2009, 09:58 PM
That was very impressive. Gillou won with his *brain*. I'm so proud of him. :worship:

Now I just hope his knee is okay.:awww:

whattheheck
11-10-2009, 10:06 PM
That was amazing! Can someone post video of the 3rd set?

rtgy
11-10-2009, 10:06 PM
Ljubo was paralysed, he was pushing everything back to Gilles to wait for him to miss, and Gilles on the other hand didn't have a choice but to play some great stuff to end the point.


yep same here...........;):p

I'm just recording it to DVD now, will set it encoding before I go to bed (although I'm watching that 3rd set again just to make sure it really happened :lol:


:lol: Gosh that's simply not real:lol:

Keijan
11-10-2009, 10:09 PM
My hero. :worship: How many would have retired in the same situation, I wonder.

I can't wait to see it again properly, thanks a lot Leslee :yeah::D

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 10:11 PM
I couldn't even watch the end on tv because my hotel doesn't have the channel the tennis is on :(

I don't think I will be able to get to an internet connection that is good enough to stream on for about a week :(

I'm dying to know what happened in that third set now.

MsTree
11-10-2009, 10:21 PM
3rd set summary - Going with serve, at a fairly high level then Gillou jarred his sore knee and had to immediately stop playing and get the trainer (he had advantage on Ljubo's serve) I thought he might retire but he came out and was a statute for a few games but held serve, and then into a tiebreak when Ljubo tightened up and Gillou was just himself. :)

He pulled off some amazing shots, was serving either aces or faults and looked completely fabulous!!!

Why did you leave?

Cloudygirl
11-10-2009, 10:29 PM
Staying at a hotel which is quite far out. :(

this was a very last minute thing had decided wasn't going to Bercy this year and then couldn't resist it.

Glad i got to see him though even though it was only for a set and a bit. Thanks for the summary I appreciate it. Can't wait to see it although I hate to see him injured.

Trust me he had enough people cheering for him that he won't have missed me. The people with the drums and banners were great fun and I think he appreciated it.

Tutu
11-10-2009, 10:35 PM
:bowdown: Just incredible. He turned into hingis. I have NEVER seen him hit a slice or a dropshot before. That was just :drool: He really needs to add it into his noremal play. His dropshots were crazy good. :bowdown: WHAT a fighter. Hopefully he can rest his knee and come back fighting again against that tsonga. Cmon Gilles!

MsTree
11-10-2009, 10:47 PM
Not to sober the mood or anything but we should cherish that match as it'll probably be another SIX weeks before we see him again :tape:
Or will it get inside Jo's head and he'll stop being unbeatable? :tape:

MsTree
11-10-2009, 10:59 PM
20/26 net points won :tape:
44 winners!!! :eek:
12 Aces :D
1/7 BP conversion :lol:

Allez Gilles :inlove: :D

lalaland
11-10-2009, 11:13 PM
Not to sober the mood or anything but we should cherish that match as it'll probably be another SIX weeks before we see him again :tape:
Or will it get inside Jo's head and he'll stop being unbeatable? :tape:


I know what you mean, Les. I was quite annoyed when I thought he was gonna end his season on yet another episode of the knee injury. So as far as I'm concerned, this really is gravy. I do think Jo will be prepared so Gilles' chance is slim, especially when his mobility is in doubt. But I'm already very grateful of what just happened. Good luck to him on his next match anyway, hope he put up a good show.

BlueLighthouse
11-11-2009, 01:10 AM
Great match - worth waking up at 3 am (my time). It proves once again that Gillou's strength is mental (ATP #1? or #2 from Nadal) if they had that category.

Jess22
11-11-2009, 08:28 AM
:eek: Can't wait to see this match, I've been busy with uni work at the momment so not much time to watch tennis but this seems like a must see, sad about the injury though :sad: hopefully he can put up a good match against Jo

Scotso
11-11-2009, 08:46 AM
Sweet.

Månu
11-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Some news from RMC (French radio):

Simon : « Mon IRM s'est bien passée »
La rédaction - C.Z. - RMC.fr, le 11/11/2009
Le Français, qui s'est à nouveau bloqué le genou droit mardi lors de sa victoire héroïque contre Ivan Ljubicic (6-3, 3-6, 7-6), a passé une IRM mercredi matin. Il est confiant.
Le match tant attendu entre Jo-Wilfried Tsonga et Gilles Simon, prévu jeudi en huitième de finale du tournoi de Bercy, pourrait bien avoir lieu. Malgré une nouvelle douleur au genou droit, ressentie hier soir lors de son match face à Ivan Ljubicic, Gilles Simon assure qu'il « (sera) présent demain sur le court ». A la sortie de l'IRM qu'il a passé ce matin dans une clinique privée parisienne, le Français était plutôt confiant. « Ça s'est bien passé », a-t-il simplement lâché dans un sourire, sans s'étendre outre mesure sur les résultats de cet examen. Avant de prendre une décision définitive, Simon doit rencontrer le docteur Montalvan. La rencontre avec le médecin de la fédération française de tennis est prévue ce soir à Roland-Garros.

He said this morning that his medical exam went fine... he should be able to play

Jess22
11-11-2009, 05:41 PM
^^ Thankyou, Good news, at least one more match before off season :p

turtle-rn
11-11-2009, 08:07 PM
He will play third on center court tomorrow (around 3PM)

http://www.fft.fr/cms/GetDoc.asp?Type=5&ID=12212

Allez Gilles! :(

rtgy
11-11-2009, 08:14 PM
He will play third on center court tomorrow (around 3PM)

http://www.fft.fr/cms/GetDoc.asp?Type=5&ID=12212

Allez Gilles! :(



ALLEZ GILLOU!!! :rocker2:

MsTree
11-11-2009, 08:17 PM
:( Why couldn't it be the night match? :( His magic is stronger at night :devil:

Ah OK it's because I'm working hmmmmpffffff :(

lalaland
11-11-2009, 08:40 PM
Interesting scheduling, a match with 2 Frenchies in the afternoon. 2 Spaniards and then 2 S. Americans are night matches. Well, I guess you can't say that the French are favoring their own.

Ok, I feel cruel just to think about it, but since it's the last week of the season and that it seems the inflammation is not gonna further damage his knee, I kinda hope that Gilles can play at close to his full strength, and for that he probably will have to take some strong painkillers and maybe does what Gael did in RG - froze his knee or sth :tape:. I just hope that he can play normally and not feel any pain.

Allez Gilles, good luck tomorrow.

MsTree
11-12-2009, 06:25 AM
I'll try to record it but I'm seeing Andy's match is on the other court not before 5pm so I wonder what Sky will do if Gillou's match runs late? They might cut the end of Gillou's match to show Andy :(

Oh well, Allez Gilles! :D

Truc
11-12-2009, 06:38 AM
In L'Equipe today, he will play, but he might have to take a longer break and skip the Australian Open to really cure his knee:
Simon : O.K. pour Tsonga !
Le Français, blessé au genou, a obtenu le feu vert pour rencontrer Tsonga aujourd’hui. Pour l’Open d’Australie en revanche…

C’EST UNE BLESSURE insidieuse, récurrente, qui mine l’esprit de Gilles Simon depuis Roland-Garros, torturé par une fissure au tendon rotulien du genou droit. La douleur va et repart pour mieux revenir, à Flushing Meadows et mardi à Bercy. En rechute ici face à Ljubicic, le Français s’en était sorti à l’esbroufe face au Croate, dans des conditions boitillantes qu’avait « détestées » son coach, Thierry Tulasne, impuissant face au mal de son poulain, qui avait préféré le prendre au second degré. « Finalement, c’est passé avec une réussite incroyable. J’ai réalisé des coups que je ne sais pas faire. On peut regarder les vidéos de mes cinq cents derniers matches, je n’ai pas fait une amortie ou un chip de revers. Ce sont des coups que je n’utilise jamais, même pas à l’entraînement… » Hier matin, Simon passait une IRM et, après une longue journée à régler « différentes choses » à Bercy, il avait rendez-vous à 20 heures avec le docteur Montalvan pour commenter les images. Même sa maman, médecin, fut conviée un instant pour participer aux discussions. Car le verdict n’est pas si limpide. À très court terme, Simon peut tenir sa place contre Tsonga cet après-midi, même si les conditions ne seront pas optimales. « Malgré la grosse douleur de mardi, la lésion en est toujours au même point. J’ai moins mal aujourd’hui, dans ces conditions, j’y vais. Mais j’ai fragilisé la zone et il y a donc un risque que la douleur revienne pendant le match… » Mais c’est pour le moyen terme que les décisions vont être plus difficiles à prendre. « Là, les discussions sont plus compliquées, disait hier le joueur. Je pense que je vais passer un hiver disons… reposant. Pour faire disparaître la douleur, il faut deux mois, dont quatre semaines de repos total. Sachant que l’Open d’Australie est dans deux mois, je vous laisse supposer la délicatesse de la décision à prendre… » « Après Bercy, on va faire des examens complets et définir une stratégie de guérison, car il faut absolument que la douleur disparaisse définitivement », complétait son entraîneur, Thierry Tulasne.
FRANCK RAMELLA

Truc
11-12-2009, 06:52 AM
Tulasne "hated" his bluff win on Tuesday (Gilles says he was unbelievably lucky, played shots he doesn't know how to play, like dropshots or BH slice, he doesn't even play those shots in training, etc.) He had an MRI for his knee yesterday morning and saw the doc in the evening to analyze the results. He will be able to play today, even if the conditions are far from optimal: "Despite the severe pain on Tuesday, the injury hasn't gotten worse. I'm less in pain today and I'll play. But the area has been weakened and there's a risk the pain comes back during the match..." The middle-term decision will be more complicated: "I think my off-season is going to be... restful. It takes 2 months to get rid of the pain, and 4 weeks of complete rest. When you know that the Australian Open starts in 2 months, imagine how awkward it is..." Tulasne: "He'll undergo comprehensive tests after Bercy and we will define a recovery strategy because he absolutely needs to get rid of this pain for good."

simplet
11-12-2009, 09:50 AM
This scheduling is absolute bullshit. I have tickets for the night session and I almost feel like selling them on the black market or something. Rafa-boredo? The way Nadal is playing at the moment? That sounds fun... And Gonzalez will probably put up such a good fight against the always exciting Del Potro...

Those freaking tickets were expensive, and those assholes give us the worst matches of the day. Well done, fuckers... To think that I could have had tickets for Friday night for the same price, but I tought I'd get to see Tsonga-Simon/LLubicic and probably Federer-Monfils...

lalaland
11-12-2009, 12:41 PM
Thanks Fran, for the article.

Ahhh, that sucks then, if he has to skip Aussie :sad:. But if that's what it takes, he just need to do it then, its ridiculous that he has to play in so much pain so often. If just rest for 2 months is enough to get rid of this problem once and for all...then he should have stopped last month :tape:, never mind .

I just hope that he get thru this match, it is painful to watch him in pain. I hope he will stop play if it's too much, it's not worth driving himself into the ground just because he doesn't want to disappoint the crowd.

Naina
11-12-2009, 12:59 PM
Good Luck Gillou:scared:(More that he will be in pain then anytihng else :sad:)

but-it's-ok
11-12-2009, 01:00 PM
I just hope he can get through to the end of the match:scared:

Allez Gillou:rocker:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 01:13 PM
Tulasne "hated" his bluff win on Tuesday (Gilles says he was unbelievably lucky, played shots he doesn't know how to play, like dropshots or BH slice, he doesn't even play those shots in training, etc.) He had an MRI for his knee yesterday morning and saw the doc in the evening to analyze the results. He will be able to play today, even if the conditions are far from optimal: "Despite the severe pain on Tuesday, the injury hasn't gotten worse. I'm less in pain today and I'll play. But the area has been weakened and there's a risk the pain comes back during the match..." The middle-term decision will be more complicated: "I think my off-season is going to be... restful. It takes 2 months to get rid of the pain, and 4 weeks of complete rest. When you know that the Australian Open starts in 2 months, imagine how awkward it is..." Tulasne: "He'll undergo comprehensive tests after Bercy and we will define a recovery strategy because he absolutely needs to get rid of this pain for good."

!
well now it's time for Gillou to take the right decision and to quit from AO in order to settle the problem indeed for good!!! It's time for rest mate:hug: I'll miss him severely:sad: but that's for his own good!:angel:


ALLEZ GILLOU!!!:cool:

Jess22
11-12-2009, 01:27 PM
Yeah he needs to get rid of the injury for good :sad: anyways allez Gillou! 2-2 :)

Puschkin
11-12-2009, 01:28 PM
Allez Gilles, you know why!

rtgy
11-12-2009, 01:35 PM
2-5:tears:

Jess22
11-12-2009, 01:37 PM
Broken :sad: 5-2 I think I'd rather he just retire after first set Tsongas too good to lose the match can't see Gilles being able to be competitive enough to win it. But as we all know Gilles doesn't retire easily :p

but-it's-ok
11-12-2009, 01:37 PM
This is hard to watch:sobbing::sobbing:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 01:43 PM
obviously today is a "day off" for the line judges:lol:............2-6:sad:

lalaland
11-12-2009, 01:45 PM
I don't think I've ever wanted him to lose so badly to just have it over with. It is painful to watch him just dragging himself around :sad:. I'm so afraid he makes a wrong move and get hurt more than he already has.

rtgy
11-12-2009, 01:57 PM
This is hard to watch:sobbing::sobbing:

:hug:

1-4:sad:
Gillou:hug:

but-it's-ok
11-12-2009, 02:00 PM
:hug:

1-4:sad:
Gillou:hug:

Yavor:hug:

Gillou:sobbing::hug::hug:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 02:10 PM
OMG I can't believe that we wouldn't see him again till next year............:sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:

:bigcry:

Jess22
11-12-2009, 02:10 PM
:sad: Rest up now Gillou :hug::hug:
:lol: at the two of them having a chat at the end nice to see him smile :), probably best bit of the match ;)

but-it's-ok
11-12-2009, 02:12 PM
:bigcry::bigcry:

Gillou:hug::hug::hug: I want Gillou to take as long as possible to find a solution to his knee problems and come back completely free of pain,so that he can give 100% physically and has full freedom to play his best tennis in every match:)

Take care Gillou,will miss you,but get yourself fit again first;)

lalaland
11-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Relief.

Well, that's the end of the line, and the healing starts from now.

Thanks for the season, Gilles, for working so hard to keep us fans entertained. I hope he rests well for the next 2 months and comes back strong.:hug:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 02:14 PM
I don't think I've ever wanted him to lose so badly to just have it over with. It is painful to watch him just dragging himself around :sad:. I'm so afraid he makes a wrong move and get hurt more than he already has.

yep that's was awful indeed:o

Yavor:hug:



:kiss:

lalaland
11-12-2009, 02:14 PM
OMG I can't believe that we wouldn't see him again till next year............:sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:

:bigcry:

:hug::hug::hug: me too. It's gonna be at least 2 long months for waiting for his return.

but-it's-ok
11-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah we'll all miss him,but he needs to get that knee fixed and come back pain free. It would be great if he's pain free in time for Australia,but I would rather him take extra time if needed.

Meanwhile:hug::hug::hug::hug: to all of his wonderful fans here:worship:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 02:23 PM
:hug::hug::hug: me too. It's gonna be at least 2 long months for waiting for his return.


yes at least 2 long months(ufffff that's awful:() I'm already out of patience:lol:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 02:24 PM
Meanwhile:hug::hug::hug::hug: to all of his wonderful fans here:worship:


:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

lalaland
11-12-2009, 02:31 PM
Yeah we'll all miss him,but he needs to get that knee fixed and come back pain free. It would be great if he's pain free in time for Australia,but I would rather him take extra time if needed.

Meanwhile:hug::hug::hug::hug: to all of his wonderful fans here:worship:

Ditto. It's been a lot of fun gathering here to cheer our boy on. Hopefully, there'll be more fun time next year when Gilles comes back strong, and painfree ;).

BlueLighthouse
11-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Happy for Gillou that he can finally put the bad knee to proper treatment and rest.
So I can get some work done during this off-season without Gillou and Marat waiting for me to cheer on.

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 02:49 PM
Bleh. A bit sad ending to this season; hopefully, he will come back with a new coach knee and some more dropshots next year. :]

Puschkin
11-12-2009, 03:01 PM
:awww: Why the hell did he play if the injury was so bad? I hate this crap talk about playing through injuries. I hope he did not aggravate his problems. Take a break and come back healthy next year, Gilles, your refreshing interviews are dearly needed, now that Marat is gone. :sad:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 03:12 PM
Bleh. A bit sad ending to this season; hopefully, he will come back with a new coach knee and some more dropshots next year. :]

new coach:eek::eek::eek: why:confused:

Cloudygirl
11-12-2009, 03:28 PM
:awww: Why the hell did he play if the injury was so bad? I hate this crap talk about playing through injuries. I hope he did not aggravate his problems. Take a break and come back healthy next year, Gilles, your refreshing interviews are dearly needed, now that Marat is gone. :sad:

His interviews are one thing I love about him too apart from him being incredibly gorgeous

I doubt he would have played today if it hadn't been the end of the season and it was a good gift to Tsonga. I bet he would have found ljubicic harder to beat.

lalaland
11-12-2009, 03:50 PM
:awww: Why the hell did he play if the injury was so bad? I hate this crap talk about playing through injuries.

I think it's Ljubo's fault that Gilles has to play this match. If he gave Jo a walkover, I can imagine how many will complain about that. It's a lose-lose-lose situation for him if he chose to walkover,or retire during the match, or barely able to play thru the whole match, surely ppl will complain in any of the situation. Anyhow, it's over now and he seems to be alright.

Yes, Nat, I also want to know why you think he needs a new coach.

Truc
11-12-2009, 04:38 PM
They have his audio interview on the Bercy website:
http://www.fft.fr/bnpparibasmasters/2009/?ID=5631

He says that the disappointment happened 2 days ago, not today. He knew on Tuesday that he was out of the tournament, so today isn't tough, he knew he didn't stand a chance when he entered the court.
The knee is preventing him from making a "split step" (I don't know how to say "reprise d'appui", maybe something with "stance phase"? He means that little jump you make when the opponent is hitting the ball before you go for one side or the other). It's impossible for him to do that, so it means he can't return a serve and he can hardly play from the baseline, of course.

It will take 4-5 weeks of complete rest and then "maybe" he can resume the training. It might sound long enough to get ready for the AO, but he'll have to be very careful and practice very gently first or he would have to stop again for 2 more months. So it will be a "big challenge" to be ready in time for the AO. But he sounds like he's still hoping he will be able to do it.

Then some blabla about the 2010 season which has been extremely interesting for him. He experienced how it feels to always be seeded. Having to play all the time players who are ranked below him was a problem for a while, but he's improved in that regard.
And the injury has helped him realizing that his game forward can be effective too. Too bad it took him an injury for that, but it's a satisfaction to see his game is working and he was able to have a very decent 2nd half of the season despite his painful knee.

Why did he decide to play today? Because there was no risk to aggravate the knee. He felt like playing today, so he did it, even though he knew he couldn't play normally.

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Because I don't like Tulasne's haircut! :p

More seriously, because I don't think he's doing a great job as a coach, he's quick becoming what Deblicker is to Richard, a trusted figure of his entourage but it's going nowhere on the tennis front. I find the poor handling of Gilles' injury particularly revealing; if there was something that could be done to fix it for good, it should have be dealt with right away. Granted Gilles may be a particularly stuborn fellow, it's still his coach's job to bring in his experience and long term perspective in handling those sort of issues; but if you read Gilles' interviews, however funny and entertaining they may be, it's clear he's pretty much alone behind the wheel, Tulasne merely trailing along (to catch a few glimpses of the limelight :devil:). Not to mention Tulasne's interviews (his self-proclaimed top ten best coach on the tour status! :tape:) regularly make me cringe.

rtgy
11-12-2009, 05:22 PM
Because I don't like Tulasne's haircut! :p

or the complete lack of it.........:lol: :rolls:

More seriously, because I don't think he's doing a great job as a coach, he's quick becoming what Deblicker is to Richard, a trusted figure of his entourage but it's going nowhere on the tennis front. I find the poor handling of Gilles' injury particularly revealing; if there was something that could be done to fix it for good, it should have be dealt with right away. Granted Gilles may be a particularly stuborn fellow, it's still his coach's job to bring in his experience and long term perspective in handling those sort of issues; but if you read Gilles' interviews, however funny and entertaining they may be, it's clear he's pretty much alone behind the wheel, Tulasne merely trailing along (to catch a few glimpses of the limelight :devil:). Not to mention Tulasne's interviews (his self-proclaimed top ten best coach on the tour status! :tape:) regularly make me cringe.

yes but I still believe that they are great team and frankly I can't even imagine someone like Gilbert right next to Gillou for example!!! that will be ridiculous and pathetic;) remember:"Gilles may be a particularly stuborn fellow" maybe he prefer to be....."pretty much alone behind the wheel":p;)
I think that this is actually a very much Gillouway in this way.............(whatever that means...:lol:)

Nastasie
11-12-2009, 05:33 PM
Well, it was a tough season for him, adapting to his new status, and that big disappointment at Davis Cup, which didn't help either. But it was great to see him pick it up in the second half of the reason, he's a fighter, as we all know. I think he's going to be more stable and confident next year, provided the injury gets cured. So it's vital for him to make the right decisions about recovery now.

Eh, sorry for stating the obvious here, just showing my support. ;)

I haven't thought about Tuslane's role in all this, but I hope you're wrong about him, Natsume. It looks to me like there were a few adjustments that added more weapons to Gilles' game? :shrug:
And Gillou has a trainer too, right? I trust he'll give him better guidance if that's the case.

MsTree
11-12-2009, 05:33 PM
:sad:

rtgy
11-12-2009, 05:43 PM
Well, it was a tough season for him, adapting to his new status, and that big disappointment at Davis Cup, which didn't help either. But it was great to see him pick it up in the second half of the reason, he's a fighter, as we all know. I think he's going to be more stable and confident next year, provided the injury gets cured. So it's vital for him to make the right decisions about recovery now.

Eh, sorry for stating the obvious here, just showing my support. ;)


don't sorry you're most welcome here Nastasie;)

:sad:

Les:hug:
:smooch:

lalaland
11-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Because I don't like Tulasne's haircut! :p

More seriously, because I don't think he's doing a great job as a coach, he's quick becoming what Deblicker is to Richard, a trusted figure of his entourage but it's going nowhere on the tennis front. I find the poor handling of Gilles' injury particularly revealing; if there was something that could be done to fix it for good, it should have be dealt with right away. Granted Gilles may be a particularly stuborn fellow, it's still his coach's job to bring in his experience and long term perspective in handling those sort of issues; but if you read Gilles' interviews, however funny and entertaining they may be, it's clear he's pretty much alone behind the wheel, Tulasne merely trailing along (to catch a few glimpses of the limelight :devil:). Not to mention Tulasne's interviews (his self-proclaimed top ten best coach on the tour status! :tape:) regularly make me cringe.

:lol: I knew you gonna mention his haircut.

I see what you mean now. I agree the injury was mishandled, and that Gilles seems to be calling the shot which really done him no good. I do like Tutu though, if only because of the fact that Gilles obviously feels comfortable with him. I also like seeing Tutu on court looking so tranquil while Gilles' going crazy screaming at himself, it's a picture of harmony ;).

MsTree
11-12-2009, 06:14 PM
I quite like Tutu too, (;)) I think that Gillou must be one of the hardest players to coach and fair play to anyone who wants to have a crack at it! His haircut is pretty crap though :devil:

Sky was kind to me and I'm watching the match now but at least I'm prepared for the worst! Thanks for the commentary guys :hug:

Cloudygirl
11-12-2009, 06:20 PM
That's not Tulsane's fault though.

Gilles is an opinionated guy. I don't think he would work with a domineering coach.

Naina
11-12-2009, 06:20 PM
I didn't expect you to win gillou :shrug: Not with that Injury:(. Fingers crossed that he makes it to the AO:angel:

SO till next season Au Revoir :hatoff:

Oh man it's going to be a horrible 2 months.....:mad: :o

Puschkin
11-12-2009, 07:46 PM
It's a lose-lose-lose situation for him if he chose to walkover,or retire during the match, or barely able to play thru the whole match, surely ppl will complain in any of the situation.

I don't care what people say. And I am particularly allergic versus this playing through-injuries talk which is so dominant on MTF or in certain media. Of course, it was Gilles' decision, but If I was in his place I would not have alked on court today.

More seriously, because I don't think he's doing a great job as a coach, he's quick becoming what Deblicker is to Richard, a trusted figure of his entourage but it's going nowhere on the tennis front.

This does not belong here but Deblicker has done much more for Richard than Peyre could ever dream of. I've said it elsewhere: a coach is not on court. If a player is not naturally drawn to playing forward, no coach will be able to change that around 100%. Much better to rely on the strengths, keeping the guy healthy and advising him on a clever schedule.

leptiric
11-12-2009, 08:11 PM
what are we gonna do for the next 2 months??? :sad: :awww: :bigcry:

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 08:40 PM
I do like Tutu though, if only because of the fact that Gilles obviously feels comfortable with him. I also like seeing Tutu on court looking so tranquil while Gilles' going crazy screaming at himself, it's a picture of harmony ;).
Precisely, I sometimes feel they're too comfortable with each other to work efficiently but I agree about Tutu's attitude on court. There's nothing he can do (but fall half-sleep :devil:) once the player is out there anyway. As for the picture of harmony, Carine might have a say.. ^^

His haircut is pretty crap though :devil:
I've stop counting the number of pictures he has ruined..

Gilles is an opinionated guy. I don't think he would work with a domineering coach.
Not necessarely a domineering coach but with a less conservative one, his blunt but daring personality would be an asset for changement/improvement, not a hindrance.

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 08:55 PM
This does not belong here but Deblicker has done much more for Richard than Peyre could ever dream of. I've said it elsewhere: a coach is not on court. If a player is not naturally drawn to playing forward, no coach will be able to change that around 100%. Much better to rely on the strengths, keeping the guy healthy and advising him on a clever schedule.
I don't dispute Deblicker's work with Richard but the point is that Gilles' personality and needs are very different from Richard's. Gilles' questioning is strictly a game matter. There are other ways to change his game than coming to net and you know something isn't working right when the player bring himself to think of other gameplans only under extreme circumstances like vs Ljubicic. My feeling is that Tulasne's wait and see approach in all matters doesn't fit well with a player badly in need of questioning his game & status.

lalaland
11-12-2009, 10:12 PM
Precisely, I sometimes feel they're too comfortable with each other to work efficiently but I agree about Tutu's attitude on court. There's nothing he can do (but fall half-sleep :devil:) once the player is out there anyway. As for the picture of harmony, Carine might have a say.. ^^

By Harmony, I mean Tutu's tranquility that balance out Gilles' agitation, equilibrium. I really like that when Gilles starts screaming to himself and then the camera cut to Tutu, he always has that "whatever, I don't care" smirk on his face :).

Gilles & Carine are obviously perfect for each other. I love that she gives those little nods of encouragement, subtle and positive but not too eager like some gfs who always look like they are about to burst a blood vessel.

I don't dispute Deblicker's work with Richard but the point is that Gilles' personality and needs are very different from Richard's. Gilles' questioning is strictly a game matter. There are other ways to change his game than coming to net and you know something isn't working right when the player bring himself to think of other gameplans only under extreme circumstances like vs Ljubicic. My feeling is that Tulasne's wait and see approach in all matters doesn't fit well with a player badly in need of questioning his game & status.

I think Gilles changes his gameplan from time to time depending on who he plays, subtle changes, not as drastic as changing his style like he did against Ljubicic, and he doesn't need to do that all the time anyway regardless of what the critics say how he needs to be aggressive etc etc. And despite the drop in ranking this season, I really think he improves quite a bit on his game. Of course there's still quite a bit of deficits waiting to be improved, it will take time to take care of those things. But anyway, this season is a learning curve he has to go thru, those ups and downs, learning to deal with pressure and expectations, dealing with injuries... All that, it's a lot to handle in 12 months. Considering he was so fragile in spring, I thought he came around quite nicely at the end. And I believe he is still on his upward swing in capitalizing his potential. So as far as I'm concern, nothing is broken and no need to make coach change.


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Btw, I'm very interested in what others on here think of Gilles' season, I'm sure I'm biased since I really see that he's doing quite fine and I think he will do good next season. So I want to ask what you guy thinks?

MsTree
11-12-2009, 10:47 PM
Forgetting about clay I think he's had a great season considering...
I don't want to bang on about his knee but in the long run I think it might teach him valuable lessons about his game and his limits (or lack of them ;)) He seems to be in a better headspace now than at any point since the AO and he saved his best fight till last (ok 2nd last then). There's loads of room for improvement still, and the rollercoaster ride will continue next season, with any luck :D

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 11:11 PM
Gilles has just signed up for Brisbane (04-11 Jan 2010). :confused:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/11/Brisbane-2010-Simon-To-Make-Debut.aspx

lalaland
11-12-2009, 11:28 PM
Gilles has just signed up for Brisbane (04-11 Jan 2010). :confused:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2009/11/Brisbane-2010-Simon-To-Make-Debut.aspx


Gilles, you can not be serious :smash:.
Okay, not going to jump on him too fast, I think it's just the organizer trying to advertise it before the words are out that Gilles' gonna be out for a couple of months. Well, it better be. I'm gonna write to Gilles and tell him that he's an idiot if he doesn't take at least 2 full months to heal just like the doctor ordered.

turtle-rn
11-12-2009, 11:34 PM
I think Gilles changes his gameplan from time to time depending on who he plays, subtle changes, not as drastic as changing his style like he did against Ljubicic, and he doesn't need to do that all the time anyway regardless of what the critics say how he needs to be aggressive etc etc. And despite the drop in ranking this season, I really think he improves quite a bit on his game. Of course there's still quite a bit of deficits waiting to be improved, it will take time to take care of those things. But anyway, this season is a learning curve he has to go thru, those ups and downs, learning to deal with pressure and expectations, dealing with injuries... All that, it's a lot to handle in 12 months. Considering he was so fragile in spring, I thought he came around quite nicely at the end. And I believe he is still on his upward swing in capitalizing his potential. So as far as I'm concern, nothing is broken and no need to make coach change.
On the whole, I agree, he came around quite nicely at the end especially ranking wise. Sure he will learn a lot from this year experience but my main grief is that I have the feeling his improvement curve would have been the same without Tulasne; I would be hardpressed to determine his coach's input in either his game (he used to tweak his gameplan here and there very often in the past) or his attitude during matches in general (on some occasions, I felt he wasn't prepared at all to deal with tigh situations which were quite predictable though). Of course, it's very hard from our place to assess accurately Tulasne's real input (although his interviews give quite a few clue about it), that's why I would be very curious to see what another "less passive" or more rigorous coach would make of Gilles.

lalaland
11-13-2009, 06:29 AM
I think it might teach him valuable lessons about his game and his limits (or lack of them ;))
Let's hope he does learn about his limits. The jury is still out there though, see if he really rests as long as the knee needs and then we'll decide if he learns.

my main grief is that I have the feeling his improvement curve would have been the same without Tulasne; I would be hardpressed to determine his coach's input in either his game (he used to tweak his gameplan here and there very often in the past) or his attitude during matches in general (on some occasions, I felt he wasn't prepared at all to deal with tigh situations which were quite predictable though). Of course, it's very hard from our place to assess accurately Tulasne's real input (although his interviews give quite a few clue about it), that's why I would be very curious to see what another "less passive" or more rigorous coach would make of Gilles.

The coach is the main support system and I think Gilles needs that especially, he’s getting that from Tutu, hence they get along so well. So many doubts were cast on him since the beginning when he was a kid, if he isn’t so stubbornly persistent, he probably wouldn’t have made it. He doesn’t have all the confident in the world like Jo has, he made it more on having a : “you think I can’t? I’ll show you” attitude. I think he needs a coach who listens to him and believes in him so he doesn’t feel that he needs to prove to his coach too, probably makes him feels that he has someone on his side so he’s not alone fighting his way thru. That’s what it looks to me anyway.

The technical and tactical are the easy part to improve really. His problem is his self-belief and it’s the part that I think Tutu hasn’t done enough to make him believes, “keep telling him that he’s good" obviously doesn’t work :p. What I don’t understand, is why Tutu said he “hates” that "bluff" win, what does that mean? Maybe that’s why Gilles is still so unsure of himself, he just thought he kept winning the bluff. Where are all those slices and dropshots came from? if you just know how to play shots that you never play before, all by instinct, then you really are that good, that’s talent. Why see it as a bluff? It's his potential, really. Imagine what he’ll be capable of if he starts practicing those shots. Starts seeing from a useful perspective, idk, it may work.

Puschkin
11-13-2009, 06:52 AM
There are other ways to change his game than coming to net and you know something isn't working right when the player bring himself to think of other gameplans only under extreme circumstances like vs Ljubicic.

So what should he have done in the match against Ljubicic? I have not seen it, so I can't really discuss it, sorry! :o

What I wanted to say is that game-plans seem a little bit overrated to me. My feeling is that players even without coaches know each other and about their strengths and weaknesses, consciously or subconsciously. They know that they have to be aggressive themselves against aggressive players, they know that some players have weaknesses in concentration and that you just have to stay long enough in the match. E.g. Andreev comes to my mind. Or when Ferrero was at his best, drop-shotting against him was suicide, because he was so fast.

But on a given day it might still not work. And then the player has to be capable to rely on his strengths, thus requiring confidence. The more I think about it, the more I feel that a coach's task is not to change a player, but to help him stay true to himself, including his tennis-capabilities. Santoro comes to my mind. The guy only became so good later in his career, because he accepted his weaknesses and only used his strength: touch over power. And in addition, it made him happy becasue he was at peace with himself.

That's just my take on things. I am not pretending that I know it all. ;)

turtle-rn
11-13-2009, 09:12 PM
The coach is the main support system and I think Gilles needs that especially, he’s getting that from Tutu, hence they get along so well. So many doubts were cast on him since the beginning when he was a kid, if he isn’t so stubbornly persistent, he probably wouldn’t have made it. He doesn’t have all the confident in the world like Jo has, he made it more on having a : “you think I can’t? I’ll show you” attitude. I think he needs a coach who listens to him and believes in him so he doesn’t feel that he needs to prove to his coach too, probably makes him feels that he has someone on his side so he’s not alone fighting his way thru. That’s what it looks to me anyway.
Well, that's where I don't really agree. Families, friends and girlfriend are there for that kind of support. You would expect from a coach something specifically focused on handling and winning matches, that's what he's paid for. And when I see how a mentally rock solid player by the end of 08 turned into a shaky, easily furstrated guy for half of 09, I can't help but questioning his coach's work, hoping he did more than just being supportive or understanding.

The technical and tactical are the easy part to improve really. His problem is his self-belief and it’s the part that I think Tutu hasn’t done enough to make him believes, “keep telling him that he’s good" obviously doesn’t work :p.
You wouldn't get that impression by reading his interviews, especially those early on in his career. He sounded pretty confident of his talent and worth to the point that he was labelled as arrogant by many other French players. :p I agree that technical and tactical aspects of the game should be easy for him considering his personality and genuine talent although he's paradoxically one of most technically limited player to make it into the top ten.. (hello coach ^^).

What I don’t understand, is why Tutu said he “hates” that "bluff" win, what does that mean? Maybe that’s why Gilles is still so unsure of himself, he just thought he kept winning the bluff. Where are all those slices and dropshots came from? if you just know how to play shots that you never play before, all by instinct, then you really are that good, that’s talent. Why see it as a bluff? It's his potential, really. Imagine what he’ll be capable of if he starts practicing those shots. Starts seeing from a useful perspective, idk, it may work.
I don't get that Tulasne's comment either. Gilles has been using slices and dropshots before but it's the first time I see him play those shots decidedly with a tactic in mind and it was :drool:. I guess that seeing Gilles play differently than how he was supposed to just crumble all his landmarks. :devil:

turtle-rn
11-13-2009, 09:25 PM
So what should he have done in the match against Ljubicic? I have not seen it, so I can't really discuss it, sorry! :o
What I meant is that the way he played after his injury is how he should be playing on a regular basis i.e adding variety to his game to make the most of the situation. Because he could hardly move, he was stuck inside the court after serve and had to take the ball early and it happens that his simple technic on both wing allows him to do so finely; being inside the court also allow him to hit shots he wouldn't even think of if he were standing two meters behind baseline as he is used to. If I were cynical, I would say that that 2 millisecond striking pain broaden his game more than two years of coaching. :o

The more I think about it, the more I feel that a coach's task is not to change a player, but to help him stay true to himself, including his tennis-capabilities.
I fully agree with this in any professional field for that matter. But the question is how many players in their teens or early twenties know themselves that good as to envision their full potential tennis-capabilities wise. That's where an experimented coach can do wonders.

Santoro comes to my mind. The guy only became so good later in his career, because he accepted his weaknesses and only used his strength: touch over power. And in addition, it made him happy becasue he was at peace with himself.
But if he had had a good coach by his side in the early stage of his career, one might think he would have accepted that state of matter much earlier on. :p

Puschkin
11-13-2009, 09:34 PM
I fully agree with this in any professional field for that matter. But the question is how many players in their teens or early twenties know themselves that good as to envision their full potential. That's where an experimented coach can do wonders.


But that type of coach is more of a support-person than somebody who really changes your tennis. You attribute such a role to family, if I understood your other post correctly. Fact is, however, that the guys might spend more time with their coaches than with their families, in particular if they have a girl-friend like Gilles who - according to my humble knowlegde -does not travel with him.

Anyway I am a lay person on all these issues. I never did professional sports or anything close to it. I don't pretend my views are correct. But I have been watching tennis for a long time and what I state is just a summary of my observations.

turtle-rn
11-13-2009, 09:53 PM
But that type of coach is more of a support-person than somebody who really changes your tennis.
No I meant their full potential tennis wise in response to "stay true to himself, including his tennis-capabilities". Young players don't necessarely know what style of game suit them best either because they'aren't aware of their potential or their knowledge and experience of the sport is partial and limited. Edberg comes to mind, he started as a two handed BH baseliner a la Borg before turning into a S&V player. Whoever changed his game did actually bring him back to his true self.

Puschkin
11-13-2009, 09:58 PM
Young players don't necessarely know what style of game suit them best either because they'aren't aware of their potential or their knowledge and experience of the sport is partial and limited.
Is that true? That's hard to believe. I mean if you do a tough volley session and you miss regularly only one out of ten while your buddy misses five, that should make it obvious that you have a gift for the net. Or am I too simplistic?

turtle-rn
11-13-2009, 10:06 PM
You're being def too simplistic. :p

It only shows that you're better than your buddy in that sort of training during that particular session.

lalaland
11-14-2009, 12:38 AM
Well, that's where I don't really agree. Families, friends and girlfriend are there for that kind of support. You would expect from a coach something specifically focused on handling and winning matches, that's what he's paid for. And when I see how a mentally rock solid player by the end of 08 turned into a shaky, easily furstrated guy for half of 09, I can't help but questioning his coach's work, hoping he did more than just being supportive or understanding.

I think friends and family supports are quite different from supports in your profession. That’s how I see it anyway. We both agree that Tutu hasn’t done enough to fix Gilles’ self-belief problem. However, I still think supportive and understanding are important in those fragile moments, despite the fact that it didn’t help fix the issue.


You wouldn't get that impression by reading his interviews, especially those early on in his career. He sounded pretty confident of his talent and worth to the point that he was labelled as arrogant by many other French players. :p I agree that technical and tactical aspects of the game should be easy for him considering his personality and genuine talent although he's paradoxically one of most technically limited player to make it into the top ten.. (hello coach ^^).

Earlier in his career, his expectation of himself was a top 20-30 players, that’s the level of belief that he has in himself. He’s confident of his talent to achieve that level. Don’t think even Gilles expected himself to get to Top 10, or at least not in such rapid pace. It’s a whole new standard that requires a higher level of confident. He is not Djokovic or DelPo, who knew they belong in top 10 in young age and are quite mentally prepared once they got there. I think it’s understandable that Gilles has to go thru a period of reassessing his mentality to adjust to the new standard.

As for his technical limitation, yes, he should really employ more shots in his repertoire. And I’m not sure if that’s a technical issue either. He can play those shots, he needs to be confident enough to play those shots in tight matches. So it’s again a confidence issue. He can be bold when he feels that he has nothing to lose (Nadal in Madrid, or even that Ljubicic match when he thought he has no hope of winning), but he played conservatively when he feels he has much to lose, like when he played Misha for example. The Valencia match was hard to watch cos I felt he’s a bit crippled by fear and resorted back to playing his natural defensive style.


I don't get that Tulasne's comment either. Gilles has been using slices and dropshots before but it's the first time I see him play those shots decidedly with a tactic in mind and it was :drool:. I guess that seeing Gilles play differently than how he was supposed to just crumble all his landmarks. :devil:

I really hope that Gilles and Tutu take the hint from this match and open their minds. Why sell yourself short, Gilles deserves some credits for being able to play those shots so effectively and pull a win off it. He can build something from there.

turtle-rn
11-14-2009, 08:23 PM
I think friends and family supports are quite different from supports in your profession. That’s how I see it anyway. We both agree that Tutu hasn’t done enough to fix Gilles’ self-belief problem. However, I still think supportive and understanding are important in those fragile moments, despite the fact that it didn’t help fix the issue.
Then we should agree that getting another coach who could treat the cause of the problem and not only smoothen its symptoms wouldn't be a bad idea. :p I think I've already said it on here, I don't think his main problem is a matter of self-belief, actually it's a bit of the opposite; he set up too high expectations on himself since he became a toptener, get frustrated when his playing doesn't meet those expectations, lose the plot and ultimately the match; something that rarely happens when he was lower ranked and didn't care much for beautiful game and stuff, as long as it worked.

lalaland
11-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Then we should agree that getting another coach who could treat the cause of the problem and not only smoothen its symptoms wouldn't be a bad idea. :p
I don't agree on sacking Tutu, but if he can add another coach to his entourage, I wouldn't object :).


I don't think his main problem is a matter of self-belief, actually it's a bit of the opposite; he set up too high expectations on himself since he became a toptener, get frustrated when his playing doesn't meet those expectations, lose the plot and ultimately the match; something that rarely happens when he was lower ranked and didn't care much for beautiful game and stuff, as long as it worked.

Failing to meet his own expectation probably contribute to him doubting himself a bit, hence, the self-belief problem kicks in. But I know what you mean, and I do agree. I don't think he cares much for beautiful game now either, he just knew that he needs more game to consistently challenge top players, and getting more aggressive is just necessary because you can't win a big tournament playing long matches one after the others. A lot of things contribute to the epic slump in spring, but end result was the self-doubt. I think when he was getting a bit defensive when ppl asked him about his top 10 status in the summer, it really sounded a bit like he was trying to convince himself that he belongs. But now, he's optimistic about getting back to that level and sounded a lot more confident that he will. I think he finally managed to put thing into perspective, and the injury has helped him focus on the tasks instead of wasting energy to think too much/care too much about what others think. I'm really feeling good about his chance to get back to top 10 next year, new coach or not, bar any injury of course.