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Thomas Enqvist - both the strongest and weakest winning run in a Masters Series?

Sjengster
07-18-2009, 07:17 PM
In light of the thread about toughest Slam draws, I thought I'd list some examples of hard Masters Series draws.

But Enqvist seems to have gone through both extremes. Consider the opponents he beat to win his second Masters title in Stuttgart 1999:

ATP Masters Series Stuttgart, Germany; 25.10.1999; SU; Indoor: Hard; Draw: 48
R64 Bye N/A
W
R32 Michael Chang (USA) 73
W 6-4, 6-2
R16 Gustavo Kuerten (BRA) 5
W 6-4, 5-7, 6-4
Q Marcelo Rios (CHI) 9
W 6-4, 6-2
S Andre Agassi (USA) 1
W 6-3, 4-6, 6-0
F Richard Krajicek (NED) 8
W 6-1, 6-4, 5-7, 7-5

Even excluding the dangers posed by the always-tenacious Bye, that's still four Top 10 opponents, four Grand Slam champions and three former/future world no. 1s. But then less than a year later, his last Masters title in Cincinnati:

ATP Masters Series Cincinnati, OH, U.S.A.; 07.08.2000; SU; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 64
R64 Andrei Pavel (ROU) 35
W 7-5, 2-6, 7-6(7)
R32 Harel Levy (ISR) 72
W 6-4, 6-1
R16 Max Mirnyi (BLR) 60
W 6-4, 6-3
Q Fernando Vicente (ESP) 51
W 7-5, 6-1
S Arnaud Clement (FRA) 50
W 6-2, 6-2
F Tim Henman (GBR) 16
W 7-6(5), 6-4

This raises the question of whether one should take into account what players did before or after the event in question, when assessing how strong an opponent they were. You have Levy, who had just made the final in Toronto the week before, plus Pavel and Mirnyi who would go on to have one big Masters Series tournament each the following year, not to mention what Clement achieved in 2001. However, Enqvist still only faced two players ranked below 50, one in the Top 20 and none in the Top 10.

FiBeR
07-18-2009, 07:25 PM
:yeah: thanks

Sjengster
07-18-2009, 07:25 PM
Guga winning Cincinnati 2001 will always stand out:
ATP Masters Series Cincinnati, Ohio, USA; 06.08.2001; SU; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 64
R64 Andy Roddick (USA) 27
W 7-6(3), 6-1
R32 Tommy Haas (GER) 16
W 7-6(4), 7-6(8)
R16 Goran Ivanisevic (CRO) 19
W 6-2, 6-1
Q Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) 6
W 6-4, 3-6, 6-4
S Tim Henman (GBR) 8
W 6-2, 1-6, 7-6(4)
F Patrick Rafter (AUS) 7
W 6-1, 6-3

Canas in Toronto 2002:
ATP Masters Series Canada, Toronto, Canada; 29.07.2002; SU; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 64
R64 Roger Federer (SUI) 10
W 7-6(10), 7-5
R32 Paradorn Srichaphan (THA) 60
W 6-2, 6-1
R16 Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) 5
W 6-2, 6-2
Q Marat Safin (RUS) 2
W 7-5, 6-3
S Tommy Haas (GER) 3
W 6-4, 3-6, 7-6(5)
F Andy Roddick (USA) 12
W 6-4, 7-5

Henman in Paris 2003:
ATP Masters Series Paris, France; 27.10.2003; SU; Indoor: Carpet; Draw: 48
R64 Nikolay Davydenko (RUS) 46
W 6-3, 6-4
R32 Sebastien Grosjean (FRA) 11
W 3-6, 6-4, 7-5
R16 Gustavo Kuerten (BRA) 17
W 6-4, 6-2
Q Roger Federer (SUI) 3
W 7-6(5), 6-1
S Andy Roddick (USA) 2
W 7-6(4), 7-6(7)
F Andrei Pavel (ROU) 191
W 6-2, 7-6(6), 7-6(2)

Action Jackson
07-18-2009, 07:31 PM
Cañas winning Toronto was very impressive.

Action Jackson
07-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Pernfors was ranked 95 when he won Montreal.


R64 Mark Kaplan (RSA) 369 W 6-2, 7-5
R32 Jason Stoltenberg (AUS) 63 W 6-4, 6-4
R16 Jim Courier (USA) 2 W 6-3, 6-2
Q Alexander Volkov (RUS) 16 W 6-2, 6-1
S Petr Korda (CZE) 11 W 7-6(4), 7-5
W Todd Martin (USA) 20 W 2-6, 6-2, 7-5


Carretero ranked 143 when he won Hamburg.


R64 Jordi Arrese (ESP) 84 W 6-3, 5-7, 7-6(2)
R32 MaliVai Washington (USA) 16 W 6-1, 6-0
R16 Arnaud Boetsch (FRA) 13 W 6-4, 6-1
Q Gilbert Schaller (AUT) 32 W 4-6, 6-4, 6-4
S Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) 7 W 7-5, 6-2
W Alex Corretja (ESP) 66 W 2-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4

Sjengster
07-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Another one in Canada that really stands out, the legendary Chris Woodruff winning with a ranking of 57:

ATP Masters Series Canada, Montreal, Canada; 28.07.1997; SU; Outdoor: Hard; Draw: 56
R64 Jocelyn Robichaud (CAN) 564
W 7-6(7), 6-3
R32 Jan Siemerink (NED) 35
W 6-7(4), 7-5, 7-6(2)
R16 Goran Ivanisevic (CRO) 3
W 7-6(6), 6-2
Q Mark Philippoussis (AUS) 14
W 6-4, 6-4
S Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) 7
W 5-7, 7-5, 6-3
F Gustavo Kuerten (BRA) 13
W 7-5, 4-6, 6-3

GlennMirnyi
07-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Those were the times.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-18-2009, 08:27 PM
Rios winning Key Biscayne 1998 and reaching the #1

R128 Bye N/A W
R64 Hendrik Dreekmann (GER) 94 W 6-3, 6-4
R32 Tommy Haas (GER) 34 W 6-4, 6-3
R16 Goran Ivanisevic (CRO) 22 W 6-2, 6-3
Q Thomas Enqvist (SWE) 24 W 6-3, 2-0 RET
S Tim Henman (GBR) 20 W 6-2, 4-6, 6-0
W Andre Agassi (USA) 31 W 7-5, 6-3, 6-4

samanosuke
07-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Ivanisevic in Paris 1993

ATP Masters Series Paris, France; 01.11.1993; SU; Indoor: Carpet; Draw: 48

Round Opponent Ranking Score

R64 Bye N/A W
R32 Jonas Svensson (SWE) 32 W 3-6, 6-3, 7-6(3)
R16 Michael Chang (USA) 7 W 7-6(5), 7-5
Q Pete Sampras (USA) 1 W 7-6(3), 7-5
S Stefan Edberg (SWE) 6 W 4-6, 7-6(4), 7-6(3)
W Andrei Medvedev (UKR) 8 W 6-4, 6-2, 7-6(2)

shotgun
07-18-2009, 08:37 PM
Djokovic Montreal 2007:

R64 Bye N/A W
R32 Nicolas Kiefer (GER) 254 W 6-3, 6-3 Stats
R16 David Nalbandian (ARG) 26 W 6-2, 6-3 Stats
Q Andy Roddick (USA) 3 W 7-6(4), 6-4 Stats
S Rafael Nadal (ESP) 2 W 7-5, 6-3 Stats
W Roger Federer (SUI) 1 W 7-6(2), 2-6, 7-6(2) Stats

This Event Points: 500, South African Airways ATP Ranking: 4, Prize Money: $400,000

Nalbandian, Madrid 2007:

Round Opponent Ranking Score
R64 Arnaud Clement (FRA) 40 W 5-7, 6-2, 6-4 Stats
R32 Tomas Berdych (CZE) 11 W 4-6, 6-4, 7-6(2) Stats
R16 Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) 53 W 6-2, 6-4 Stats
Q Rafael Nadal (ESP) 2 W 6-1, 6-2 Stats
S Novak Djokovic (SRB) 3 W 6-4, 7-6(4) Stats
W Roger Federer (SUI) 1 W 1-6, 6-3, 6-3 Stats

This Event Points: 500, South African Airways ATP Ranking: 25, Prize Money: $400,000

Action Jackson
07-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Nalbandian was ranked lower than Djokovic.

GlennMirnyi
07-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Rios winning Key Biscayne 1998 and reaching the #1

R128 Bye N/A W
R64 Hendrik Dreekmann (GER) 94 W 6-3, 6-4
R32 Tommy Haas (GER) 34 W 6-4, 6-3
R16 Goran Ivanisevic (CRO) 22 W 6-2, 6-3
Q Thomas Enqvist (SWE) 24 W 6-3, 2-0 RET
S Tim Henman (GBR) 20 W 6-2, 4-6, 6-0
W Andre Agassi (USA) 31 W 7-5, 6-3, 6-4

No top 10 and only one top 20... hmmmmm no surprise Rios never won a slam.

Bilbo
07-18-2009, 08:47 PM
you seem to be a fan of nordic players, Sjengster

Action Jackson
07-18-2009, 08:51 PM
Magnus Larsson was ranked 19th at the time, when he won the GS Cup, yet it's not a Masters, but this is not a bad list.


R16 Stefan Edberg (SWE) 7 W 6-4, 6-7, 8-6
Q Andre Agassi (USA) 2 W 6-3, 1-6, 6-0
S Todd Martin (USA) 10 W 6-4, 6-1, 6-1
W Pete Sampras (USA) 1 W 7-6, 4-6, 7-6, 6-4

Sjengster
07-18-2009, 08:55 PM
you seem to be a fan of nordic players, Sjengster

What makes you say that exactly? :scratch:

jonathancrane
07-18-2009, 11:55 PM
Albert Portas, Hamburg 2001 (ranked #42)



R64 Vladimir Voltchkov (BLR) 31 W 6-1, 6-3

R32 Magnus Norman (SWE) 9 W 7-6(5), 7-6(7)

R16 Sebastien Grosjean (FRA) 11 W 6-3, 4-6, 6-2

Q Alberto Martin (ESP) 41 W 6-3, 6-2

S Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) 7 W 3-6, 7-5, 6-2

W Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) 6 W 4-6, 6-2, 0-6, 7-6(5), 7-5

dam0dred
07-19-2009, 12:53 AM
Man I miss Enqvist. :sad:

ChinoRios4Ever
07-19-2009, 03:31 AM
No top 10 and only one top 20... hmmmmm no surprise Rios never won a slam.

Probably, he was a headcase too. But he played in a real era. :p

Dougie
07-19-2009, 08:41 AM
No top 10 and only one top 20... hmmmmm no surprise Rios never won a slam.

Ivanisevic, Enqvist, Henman and Agassi were all quality players, no matter what their ranking was. Rios was able to beat anyone, why he didn´t win a slam is more about mental issues then his capabilities, let alone a score line of one tournament.

Action Jackson
10-07-2010, 06:30 AM
Ivanisevic, Enqvist, Henman and Agassi were all quality players, no matter what their ranking was. Rios was able to beat anyone, why he didn´t win a slam is more about mental issues then his capabilities, let alone a score line of one tournament.

It depends on their form at the time as well, but Rios not winning a Slam you are right it came down to mentality.