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Disapointments Of 2009 Thus far..

Iván
07-15-2009, 02:49 PM
I dont want to use the phrase ''fall from grace'' but ive realised that many players from 2 or 3 years ago have become alarmingly stagnant this year.

Its like accidently opening your sons/daughter/brother/sister exam results and seeing them fail their exams.

Who does the ''Im so disapointed in you'' tag belong to so far this year?

Im gonna leave out the high profile players like djokovic, safin or nadal because they will just cruise to win this poll,i want more interest and disection into the other players on the tour.

Please feel free to add further suggestions

ones that get off the hook and have an excuse

Ancic-Injured
Nieminen-Injured
Moya-Injured
Nalbandian-Injured
Tursunov-Injured
Monfils-Injured
Gasquet-Suspended
Baghdatis-diet/injury

The ones that have at least tried to improve

Blake
Ferrero
Robredo
Andreev


Here are the contenders...

Juan Ignacio Chela

http://www.fuebuena.com.ar/wp-content/uploads//2008/09/chela-zabaleta.jpg


Ivan Ljubicic

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060207/spr1.jpg


Janko Tipsarevic

http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/janko-tipsarevic-hookah.jpg


Mikhail Youzhny

http://cornedbeefhash.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/nadal-youzhny-chennai-08.jpg


Nicolas Almagro

http://estaticos01.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2008/02/07/1202408925_0.jpg

Paul Henri Mathieu

http://26.img.v4.skyrock.net/26c/phm-paulo/pics/394050873_small.jpg


Robby Ginepri

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/69/9/robbyginepri_357.0.0.0x0.500x333.jpeg


Eduardo Schwank

http://www.roldanfm92.com.ar/cutenews-e/editor/UserFiles/Image/Schwank.jpg


Gilles Simon

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SWpBtXr1iBI/AAAAAAAAHeI/gAbS61uSE4g/s400/sydney_simon.jpg


Ernest Gulbis

http://www.federtennis.it/upload/pop_gulbis_f7c0022.jpg


For me its Misha, use to be so hard to bt

Action Jackson
07-15-2009, 02:56 PM
Chela had 2 major injuries and he was past his best, when he got them.

Iván
07-15-2009, 02:58 PM
i expected a little more from chela this year i must admit.

Burrow
07-15-2009, 03:06 PM
Great photo selection as usual.

HattonWBA
07-15-2009, 03:28 PM
Dont understand why Simon is on there, right know Almagro, should be in the top 20 for sure and is 41 in the rankings.

Iván
07-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Dont understand why Simon is on there, right know Almagro, should be in the top 20 for sure and is 41 in the rankings.

dont get me wrong im a massive fan but ive seen him play about ten times this year and he has been big time poor in most of them especially against ferrero at wimbledon.

MacTheKnife
07-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Gulbis is the one that I thought would be better at this point than has turned out.

Querrey is very disappointing to me too. Thought he would be further along even at 20. He has just plateaued and even dropped slightly the harder he works.

Dini
07-15-2009, 03:46 PM
Simon this year has been awful. But Gulbis definitely gets the prize; over a year now since he last got past the 2nd round in tournaments.

straitup
07-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Simon this year has been awful. But Gulbis definitely gets the prize; over a year now since he last got past the 2nd round in tournaments.

Simon hasn't been completely terrible...obviously he hasn't lived up to his ranking at all but this isn't the part of the year where he usually shines anyway. But he made the QF at the AO, 3R at RG, and 4R at Wimbledon so not terrible.

Players like Chela and Ljubicic had their best years more like 4 years ago

DartMarcus
07-15-2009, 04:45 PM
A-league: Djokovic
B-league: Ginepri and Gulbis
All russians as well!

Tennis-Engineer
07-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Schwank and Bellucci have been terrible so far.They were the best challenger players in 2008 and everyone expected much better results in ATP level.

Corey Feldman
07-15-2009, 05:21 PM
the big one for me is Youzhny

ad-out
07-15-2009, 05:47 PM
All russians as well!

Me too. Especially Marat.. I really hoped he would have a great farewell year.. :sad:

Michael Bluth
07-15-2009, 05:54 PM
The dissapointing thing about Simon is the fact that he's in the top 10 in the first place.

But the biggest I would have to say is Gulbis. Almagro second because his game is one of my absolute favorites to watch.

HattonWBA
07-15-2009, 06:14 PM
dont get me wrong im a massive fan but ive seen him play about ten times this year and he has been big time poor in most of them especially against ferrero at wimbledon.

Oh yh sorry, youre right i did not catch the 2009 part of the question, still not too bad but has been dyer on ocassions.

Horatio Caine
07-15-2009, 06:43 PM
Yep, a very good thread...and I think they all could qualify, apart from Ljubicic, Chela and maybe Almagro.

Ljubicic - been a little unfortunate with injury this year. Otherwise, his performances have been good in some of the bigger events, and his current ranking isn't reflecting that at the moment (and only won't if he does virtually nothing for the remainder of the year).

Chela - see GWH's response.

Almagro - not sure how many others would agree with me, but I was thinking that Almagro was overperforming a little last year. Suspect fitness levels, can't be arsed half the time, a bit of a nutcase etc etc...

To answer the question...Gulbis, Schwank and Tipsarevic should be right up there. I was expecting Schwank to consolidate his place in the top 75 this year, but he has been in atrocious form and it might actually be a while before he reappears so high. :rolleyes: Tipsy is a bit of an enigma, but a talented one at that...can pull off some fine upsets, but would most often lose to players you'd think he'd beat. Sadly not a great deal has changed for him this year.

But my vote goes to Gulbis...hasn't won back-to-back matches in main draw competition for 9-10 months? I'm more disappointed by the fact that he hadn't thought/cared to enter some of the weaker ATP tournament draws, or even take the plunge down to challenger level a couple of times to try to at least get a handful of wins, and the confidence and points that would flow from that.

But the good thing as far as Gulbis is concerned is that we are heading into the US hard courts and, later, indoors. Coupled with the fact that he is no longer a direct entrant to the Masters events this year (at least, at the moment), if he can start to put a few results together (at whatever level), he could quite easily challenge for year-end top 50 still.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-15-2009, 06:46 PM
Good thread.

IMO Djokovic is a disapointment so far, but as the list i vote Schwank.

dijus
07-15-2009, 06:52 PM
Gulbis I'd say

Sapeod
07-15-2009, 06:59 PM
Gulbis definately. Almagro, Schwank and Tipsarevic then. Can't really say Ginepri cos he was injured for most of this year.

Horatio Caine
07-15-2009, 07:05 PM
Gulbis definately. Almagro, Schwank and Tipsarevic then. Can't really say Ginepri cos he was injured for most of this year.

Sure, Ginepri has been afflicted by injury this season, but he has been rather disappointing for much of his career imo! Another player that can beat some top opposition on his day, but he just can't build on it. Should have been a fairly solid top 50 player, but he often seemed to be yo-yo-ing between top 50 and #125. Must be an infuriating player to support.

~*BGT*~
07-15-2009, 07:47 PM
Other: Djokovic

luie
07-15-2009, 08:35 PM
Murray, he's not living up to his potential/hype.

Action Jackson
07-15-2009, 08:38 PM
Schwank, the guy for some reason decided to change to a racquet that was not suited for his game, plus there is some other outside stuff going on possibly. Combine it all and this what you have.

ballbasher101
07-15-2009, 08:58 PM
The Colonel for playing some truly awful tennis. Murray for not reaching a major final so far this year.

Henry Chinaski
07-15-2009, 09:11 PM
Ivan you should be a photo editor at a newspaper or magazine with your eye for a great picture.

from the list, schwank for me.

Bad Religion
07-15-2009, 09:16 PM
The ITF protecting dopers

luie
07-15-2009, 09:17 PM
The ITF protecting dopers
Agreed.:(

Noleta
07-15-2009, 09:23 PM
Djokovic,although the season hasn't finished yet.

chowdahead25
07-15-2009, 09:28 PM
Gulbis, Tipsarevic, Schwank, and Bellucci.

Certinfy
07-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Other: Tomas Berdych.

Nichele Hull
07-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Simon and Gulbis TBH

Simon-Chakvetadze
Gulbis-Vaidisova
All four are a FAIL this year with unknown slumps

Goldenoldie
07-15-2009, 10:40 PM
I'm very disappointed in this thread, because the poll doesn't permit multiple choices. My vote is Ljubicic, but there is a case for all the others to some extent

marquez
07-15-2009, 11:40 PM
schwank

promising last year
disgrace this year

Bilbo
07-15-2009, 11:40 PM
lol at all the gulbis voters

most overrated player ever

jrm
07-16-2009, 12:04 AM
schwank

promising last year
disgrace this year

Schwank was awesome on challangers - once he went stage higher ge went nowhere but down

jrm
07-16-2009, 12:04 AM
I went for Youzhny ... still one of the biggest disappointments in men tennis

atm708
07-16-2009, 12:16 AM
I'm most surprised by how badly YOuhzny has played this year. But I'd say Janko. I think he's a promising player, but has temperamental problems.

PinkFeatherBoa
07-16-2009, 12:55 AM
I have to go with Youzhny, such a headcase at the best of times but this year has been particularly sparkling for him. Hopefully he'll snap out of it when the tour move back to the hardcourts again.

As for Gulbis, he seems to be going through some kind of transitional period but he seems lately to be realising his problems, he got rid of his old coach and was working again with Pilic for a while who I think is good for him. I still think he has time to turn things around with the right attitude, so although I haven't enjoyed his results this year, I think it's too early to call him a disappointment.

habibko
07-16-2009, 01:19 AM
surprised Safin isn't in the list, he would get my vote, otherwise it's Tipsy :sad: :(

Blondie1985
07-16-2009, 01:29 AM
Rafa % his moonballing game coming back~~

Mint Chip
07-16-2009, 01:36 AM
Everyone on that list except PHM,Ginepri,and Schwank.

The rest can turn it around though

Bargearse
07-16-2009, 02:43 AM
Ernests Gulbis has had disappointing results this year, but I'm convinced he can turn things around with the upcoming hard court season. Go Ernests! :yeah:

safinafan
07-16-2009, 04:01 AM
feliciano lopez (what happened?):bolt:
ferrer :speakles:
nishikori (tennis revelation 2008) where is he? :eek:

*bunny*
07-16-2009, 08:03 AM
nishikori (tennis revelation 2008) where is he? :eek:
He's still recovering from stress fracture in his elbow.
He is planning to return at USO... Hope he'll be 100% fit by then!
It's a pity he got tendonitis in the elbow in January and played injured until IW in March, and hasn't been able to play since because the stress fracture was discovered just when he was about to start training for RG. :(

JolánGagó
07-16-2009, 09:27 AM
Djoko is a huge disapointment, Almagro a big one, Ferrer an expected one. Gulbis, oh well only for fangirls/boys.

Sapeod
07-16-2009, 09:47 AM
He's still recovering from stress fracture in his elbow.
He is planning to return at USO... Hope he'll be 100% fit by then!
It's a pity he got tendonitis in the elbow in January and played injured until IW in March, and hasn't been able to play since because the stress fracture was discovered just when he was about to start training for RG. :(
I hope Kei gets back to playing his best.

mr_burns
07-16-2009, 09:54 AM
kiefer...worst season in years...as always unlucky with injuries, but what he did at wimbledon beat everything

mistercrabs
07-16-2009, 10:09 AM
Murray hasn't even gotten to a Grand Slam final. If he doesn't win the US Open it will have to count as an extremely disappointing year.

rhinooooo
07-16-2009, 10:31 AM
Schwank and Gulbis, no doubt.

I think PHM is finished. Too many big matches lost, choked away, tough to keep getting over it. He looked a deflated player last year, and even moreso this year.

Youzhny has had a 2 year-long decline since 2007 Wimbledon. Constant injury problems, inconsistent results. A shame because he plays great tennis.

I think Ljubo has actually had a great year. Pulled off some big wins, put in some great performances, I've not seen him play such smart/entertaining tennis for a few years.

Action Jackson
07-16-2009, 10:41 AM
Ljubo has had injury problems as well, far from a disappointing year for a guy who has been in decline.

Sapeod
07-16-2009, 10:51 AM
Ljubo has had injury problems as well, far from a disappointing year for a guy who has been in decline.
QF at 2 MS tournaments isn't a dissapointing year by any means. I think he'll get back uo there soon enough. He has no points to defend from now on this year.

Iván
07-16-2009, 11:07 AM
Hahhaha

Zirconek changed this

Gasquet-Suspended

i swear i put addiction to smack?

all your points about ljubo are fair, i might of been abit harsh on the guy, he has had baby too.

JolánGagó
07-16-2009, 01:57 PM
all your points about ljubo are fair, i might of been abit harsh on the guy, he has had baby too.

you weren't harsh, you were simply ignorant.

leng jai
07-16-2009, 02:09 PM
The Colonel...

Audacity
07-16-2009, 02:14 PM
Gulbis takes the cake here....

Iván
07-16-2009, 04:21 PM
you weren't harsh, you were simply ignorant.

How original

I was 1st introduced to tennis in a serious way when ljubo was killing everyone in that famous davis cup year, this is probs why ive set the bar so high with him.

angry1
07-16-2009, 04:32 PM
feliciano lopez (what happened?):bolt:
ferrer :speakles:
nishikori (tennis revelation 2008) where is he? :eek:

Ferrer for me too.He played so well at the 2007 USO and Masters Cup that to see how far he's fallen surprises me.He was IIRC 4th seed at the USO last year, this year he's not even listed as someone to avoid in the draw by most people.There's still been flashes of form but far too few.Is it just wear and tear or something else?

Iván
07-16-2009, 04:37 PM
Never expected much from Feli but yes maybe i should of replaced ljubicic with ferrer

Ginepri was a lazy mistake

rocketassist
07-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Why are people voting Simon?

Geo
07-16-2009, 04:58 PM
Without question, it's Gulbis :lol: Such talent, such pathetic results :o

Dini
07-16-2009, 05:13 PM
Gulbis probably will get better results if he has to work to get into the tournaments. I certainly hope he gets his head together and starts thinking more on the court.

Action Jackson
07-16-2009, 05:40 PM
Why are people voting Simon?

Someone has to.

duong
07-16-2009, 05:54 PM
At first when I read the poll, I understood Mischa Zverev.

Maybe you might be careful when you only use first names, because it might mean somebody else for someone else.

Anyway my vote is Gulbis.

Even if Youzhny is by far my favorite player in that list.

Youzhny has come back better in recent months even if he may do far better.

Iván
07-16-2009, 06:00 PM
there is only 1

MISHA

RAFA KNOWS THIS

duong
07-16-2009, 06:05 PM
there is only 1

MISHA

I've never heard this surname even if I guess it's quite normal for a Russian player to have it.

As for Zverev, he's a very talented young player whom you could be disappointed by, and Mischa (yes I know there's a "c") is his real first name.

Arkulari
07-16-2009, 08:37 PM
Schwank and Youzhny, I don't really expect much from Tipsy or Gulbis anymore :o

Dini
07-16-2009, 11:14 PM
Gulbis is winning by a landslide. :o

Nichele Hull
07-16-2009, 11:26 PM
No one is even close to Gulbis lol. Papa Gulbis needs to tell Ernests that hes not getting of the family jewels maybe he will play better

Machiavelli
07-17-2009, 08:54 AM
People voting for Gulbis, why?, overhyped player with no brain, no gameplan and no results, that loss against Andreev at AO determined his year, such a stupid performance and shot selection has to been seen in modern tennis, playing solid and leadin and the suddenly drop shot after drop shot on hard courts and he can't even drop shot, his 1/4 run at Roland GArros, best result he will probably ever achieve, just no work ethics and not the smartest player out there..

Bargearse
07-17-2009, 10:27 AM
I think the fact that so many (myself included) have voted for Gulbis is because he showed a lot of promise last year and just hasn't been able to reproduce that form. Early success has probably made him a bit over confident. :smash:

Having to qualify for tournaments will hopefully light a fire under his ass and get him going.:devil:

I really hope things improve for him this summer!:)

Horatio Caine
07-18-2009, 12:04 PM
Gicquel is not the easiest opener, but really Gulbis has a decent chance to finally win back-to-back matches, in Indy. Was unfortunate to be dropped in the top half though. :o

Schwank really should just head back to challengers for a little bit. :tape:

Malul
07-18-2009, 12:08 PM
Nalbandian...

opeth84
07-18-2009, 12:10 PM
Youzhny and Gulbis for sure.

PHM also continues to constantly underachieve imo although it's not a suprise like the aforementioned.

Bargearse
07-18-2009, 12:12 PM
Gicquel is not the easiest opener, but really Gulbis has a decent chance to finally win back-to-back matches, in Indy. Was unfortunate to be dropped in the top half though. :o

Schwank really should just head back to challengers for a little bit. :tape:

Yeah, money can't buy a good draw, huh? Really good opportunity for Gulbis here, hope he plays well and takes advantage of it.

Horatio Caine
07-18-2009, 12:19 PM
PHM also continues to constantly underachieve imo although it's not a suprise like the aforementioned.

Yeah, I think rhinoooooooooooo is spot on. The last time I saw Mathieu in the flesh was when he was beginning that career-best run of form/results (grass season '07), and he was honestly a joy to watch at that stage...his game just flowed, and he oozed confidence.

These days he is a walking example of how a lack of confidence can seriously hurt you. Blake might as well be in the same camp as PHM.

Iván
07-18-2009, 03:11 PM
yes but atleast blake has put in some effort recently making two atp finals in estoril and queens.

nalbandians been injured Malul

The Freak
07-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Verdasco has been a bit of a letdown after that stunning AO run. Gulbis has looked horrible after a promising 08, and for me Donald Young, he has just sucked.

Serenidad
07-19-2009, 02:27 AM
Verdasco was never likely to do anything. He simply refuses to stop serving in the mid 100s all the time and then draws himself into situations he shouldn't be in. If you can serve 130s, use it.

Andrew Murray. :crying2: Losing to Roddick in slams, or anywhere for that matter.