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Smoke944
06-19-2009, 06:13 PM
damn

TheBoiledEgg
06-19-2009, 06:13 PM
press conf live now on BBC radio

ImmzB
06-19-2009, 06:13 PM
Rafa...

Certinfy
06-19-2009, 06:14 PM
:), but then :(

jonas
06-19-2009, 06:14 PM
Not much of a surprise...
Still a shame.
Rest and get well, Rafa.

Bilbo
06-19-2009, 06:14 PM
pity but expected

lol to all who thought he will show up

timafi
06-19-2009, 06:15 PM
not a fan of yours by any mean but tendinitis is not a life and death situation
so instead of injuring yourself more and risking surgery;best sit it out:shrug:

Andre♥
06-19-2009, 06:15 PM
What a pussy!

If he was a warrior, he would have played through pain!

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:17 PM
Wow. Talk about the draw opening up now.

Bilbo
06-19-2009, 06:17 PM
btw congrats to federer for his 15th grand slam title :yeah:

Sunset of Age
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
not a fan of yours by any mean but tendinitis is not a life and death situation
so instead of injuring yourself more and risking surgery;best sit it out:shrug:

Absolutely. Very sad, but the sensible decision. Get well soon, Rafa! :hug:

Andre♥
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
:retard:

He has just played two complete matches against two top players.

He can't be that bad to miss the most important tournament of the season...

Corey Feldman
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
looks like he wasnt faking afterall :awww:

shotgun
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
Wow. Talk about the draw opening up now.

Murray has an obligation to make the final now.

Sunset of Age
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
What a pussy!

If he was a warrior, he would have played through pain!

:retard:

~*BGT*~
06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
Regardless of what you feel about him, this is horrible news. :sad:

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Can someone remind me what impact this has on the seedings?

MsTree
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
:sad: Poor Rafa!

TMJordan
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh no.

I know.

Radalek
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Wow. Talk about the draw opening up now.

Bit of a bullshit reason to withdraw. You don't have to be 100% to play. He can take a month off after Wimbledon.

Draw opening, hm...Who would you chose for Murray to play with in semis, Rafa with knee problems (if he would get to semis in that state) or JMDP?Cos If I understood rules well JMDP is taking #4 seed now, Blake takes #5 and Kiefer goes to #17 as first unseeded player.

shawshank
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm devastated.
I hate tennis.

Beforehand
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Can someone remind me what impact this has on the seedings?

Nadal replaced by Del Potro, who is replaced by Blake, who is replaced by Kiefer.

Ouragan
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Yeah, horrible. And he's going to lose a heapload of points too...the revenge of the knee strikes.

lina_seta
06-19-2009, 06:21 PM
unexpected now wimbledon is not as interesting

who will be i be cheering to lose =( this is no fun at all... only muzza that brit brat, hope he becomes Scottish again soon

get well rafa, the field needs you.

rofe
06-19-2009, 06:21 PM
Get well soon Nadal. He should have handled the whole thing better though.

Argenbrit
06-19-2009, 06:22 PM
Noooooo. It won't be the same without him. :sad: :sad: :sad:

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
Shame, Wimbledon needs the big crowd pullers.

Muzza really ought to be on CC on the final Sunday now.

moon language
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
I'm not buying it. This is all just part of Toni's elaborate ruse.

scoobs
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
terrible news.

Take the time you need to recover fully Rafa...

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
Nadal replaced by Del Potro, who is replaced by Blake, who is replaced by Kiefer.

So Del Potro gets the number 2 seed's draw?

Björki
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
:awww:

l_mac
06-19-2009, 06:23 PM
Get well soon Nadal. He should have handled the whole thing better though.

:rolleyes:

Nacho
06-19-2009, 06:24 PM
a lot of haters will be happy now, good for them

get some rest rafa

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:24 PM
Draw opening, hm...Who would you chose for Murray to play with in semis, Rafa with knee problems (if he would get to semis in that state) or JMDP?Cos If I understood rules well JMDP is taking #4 seed now, Blake takes #5 and Kiefer goes to #17 as first unseeded player.

I'd rather Pony on grass even ahead of Rafa with bad knees.

Beforehand
06-19-2009, 06:24 PM
So Del Potro gets the number 2 seed's draw?

HE gets Rafa's draw.

lamnathalie
06-19-2009, 06:24 PM
Oh no!!!!:eek:
Get well soon, Rafa :sad:

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:25 PM
HE gets Rafa's draw.

Del Potro randomly gets the number 1 seed's draw? Wow, bit of a break for Pony.

LinkMage
06-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Gutted. :sad:

I wanted to see Fed crush the moonballer. No way Fed would play as bad as he did last year.

adee-gee
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
Gutted for him. Horrible news, rest up well champ.

Life goes on. Muzza, your time has come. Don't fuck it up.

Cloudygirl
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
Get well soon Rafa!

Nacho
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
defending champion not playing, has this ever happened before at wimbledon?

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
What a tough break for him. On the heels of the French, this is probably among the worst things that could have happened.

So, DelPot gets to have the opening match reserved for Defending Champion? Wow, what a break!

Corey Feldman
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
oh the pressure on Murray now :scared:

Cloudygirl
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
Gutted for him. Horrible news, rest up well champ.

Life goes on. Muzza, your time has come. Don't fuck it up.

Yes indeed!

iriraz
06-19-2009, 06:26 PM
With the defending champion out of the competition,who will play now first match on center court Monday?

prima donna
06-19-2009, 06:27 PM
Del Potro will hand Murray a beating should they meet.

FedFan_2007
06-19-2009, 06:27 PM
The worst part is Glenn is going to be totally insufferable now.

superslam77
06-19-2009, 06:27 PM
Caught by ATP for what?

Inserting Picaca in the bunhole, fire fire! :eek:

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:27 PM
Del Potro will hand Murray a beating should they meet.

On grass? Del Potro has never been past the second round here...

FedFan_2007
06-19-2009, 06:27 PM
Remember this - no year that you win a slam is a lost year! 2009 is already a great one for Rafa.

Stephie Cesc
06-19-2009, 06:28 PM
:awww: Get well soon.

Andy_POL
06-19-2009, 06:28 PM
FUCK! I am seriously worried about him now :(

MalwareDie
06-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Mug pony will be crushed and thrown into an abyss.

l_mac
06-19-2009, 06:29 PM
With the defending champion out of the competition,who will play now first match on center court Monday?

Probably Federer as top seed and finalist from last year.

But maybe they will put Murray on :lol:

adee-gee
06-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Del Potro will hand Murray a beating should they meet.
:lol:

Muzza would rip Del Potro a fat one on grass, he'd slice him to death. Del Potro wouldn't be able to deal with it.

But let's not go off topic, can we see your sympathy for Rafa and his fans.....:awww: :sad:

dam0dred
06-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Awful news. Get well soon Rafa.

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 06:30 PM
Probably Federer as top seed and finalist from last year.

But maybe they will put Murray on :lol:

Are both halves playing on the opening day? I would be surprised if they otherwise moved things around so that the other half's top seed played the opening match.

I assumed Del Pot would automatically get the opening match (and what a break that would be!)

bokehlicious
06-19-2009, 06:30 PM
Get well soon champion :hug:

Corey Feldman
06-19-2009, 06:30 PM
defending champion not playing, has this ever happened before at wimbledon?
sure, Goran in 2002

Sunset of Age
06-19-2009, 06:31 PM
He has just played two complete matches against two top players.

He can't be that bad to miss the most important tournament of the season...

Those were EXHOs. Meaning: totally meaningless.
And do you really think a player, even more, the TOP SEED, withdraws from a GS without a very good (or rather: BAD) reason???

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 06:31 PM
btw congrats to federer for his 15th grand slam title :yeah:

and to Murray for his second GS final :yeah:

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Del Potro will hand Murray a beating should they meet.

You're jesting, surely? On grass?

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 06:32 PM
Del Potro will hand Murray a beating should they meet.

First of all, no. Second of all, they would only meet in the final. So double no.
Murray has the easiest draw ever in the history of the game. Only remotely capable player on his side of the draw is Roddick. Enough said.

cmurray
06-19-2009, 06:32 PM
Wow. I didn't think I'd feel this terrible. :sad:

Take this damn thing, Muzza. PLEASE.

Jade Fox
06-19-2009, 06:33 PM
Even though I kinda expected this, I still have SadFace over it. :sad:

Get well soon Rafa! :hug:

TMJordan
06-19-2009, 06:33 PM
But why the fuck doesn't Federer move to Rafas spot in the draw? Rogi has a hell draw and this is no way to treat the GOAT. They gave Raf such an easy draw cuz they knew he was "injured" but still this is all bullshit.

l_mac
06-19-2009, 06:33 PM
First of all, no. Second of all, they would only meet in the final. So double no.
Murray has the easiest draw ever in the history of the game. Only remotely capable player on his side of the draw is Roddick. Enough said.

They could meet in the SF. DelPo takes Nadal's place.

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 06:35 PM
They could meet in the SF. DelPo takes Murray's place.

So they are shuffling all the seeds now that Rafa is out? I'm really confused about this. I thought LL would take Rafa's place and everyone else would stay where they are :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Cloudygirl
06-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Gutted for Rafa but the right decision for his long term career and he might be fit for the USO for a change.

MisterQ
06-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Very disappointing. I would have loved another Fed-Nadal final. Above all, I hope he allows his injury to heal as much as possible.

It does provide opportunities for some other players, though, and could make for an interesting tournament.

Deivid23
06-19-2009, 06:36 PM
Get well soon champ.

Congrats Federer on your 15th GS :yeah:

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:36 PM
They could meet in the SF. DelPo takes Murray's place.

Doesn't he take Rafa's place? That would still have them meet in the semis, but it's a different draw for Pony.

Sapeod
06-19-2009, 06:36 PM
Unlucky Nadal. Get yourself healthy again. I am far from a fan and I don't even like you but get back to health soon. Lucky lucky Kiefer. Just like Haas. When was the last time 4 Germans were seeded for a grand slam. A few years ago maybe :shrug:

Well done Murray. Second GS final awaits you :yeah: A Feduzz final maybe :shrug:

MacTheKnife
06-19-2009, 06:37 PM
Tough news, but a smart decision.

JolánGagó
06-19-2009, 06:37 PM
W-I-M-B-Y with A-S-T-E-R-I-S-K.

and that's pretty much all there is to say about the matter.

i hope Muzza takes this shit.

Lebeuf
06-19-2009, 06:38 PM
I got 1000$ on Federer to win wimbledon and I took this bet BEFORE the french open so couldn't be more happy about this.

l_mac
06-19-2009, 06:38 PM
Doesn't he take Rafa's place? That would still have them meet in the semis, but it's a different draw for Pony.

LOL yes. If he took Murray's place he would be Murray :retard:

Must be too sad to type straight :sad:

twisturhead
06-19-2009, 06:38 PM
happy days for roddick

prima donna
06-19-2009, 06:38 PM
On grass? Del Potro has never been past the second round here...
Hence the "should they meet" part of my comment. I think that Del Potro is more talented than Murray, from my perspective, irrespective of his success against Roger, Murray is the face of mediocrity. Moreover, the grass begins to play more and more like a medium-paced hard court as the tournament progresses, which means that should Del Potro advance deep into the tournament (which he would need to do in order to meet Murray), it really shouldn't be an issue.

I think that Del Potro's record on grass has more to do with his youth and less to do with any supposed aversion to the particular surface itself.

With respect to Murray:

AO 2008 - loses to Tsonga
Wimbledon 2008 - Demolished by Nadal
USO 2008 - Demolished by Fed in the final after beating Nadal over the course of two days.
AO '09 - loses to Verdasco
Roland Garros '09 - loses to Gonzalez

Aside from proving himself to be the Queen of the best 2 out of 3 format, he's done nothing impressive. Consistency isn't good enough to win a Grand Slam.

pesto
06-19-2009, 06:38 PM
It ends up not too unbalanced - the top remaining seed draws the 3rd remaining seed in the SF, and 2nd and 4th meet in the other. And for those who would have liked to have seen Roddick above Delpo, they now have to face off in the QF to get to the semis.

And Blake has current form on grass, and, according to Judio, should already have been in top 16, so he's not a bad replacement for a vacant spot in the 5-8 range.

MsTree
06-19-2009, 06:39 PM
I thought Del Potro would get Rafa's draw? I'm confused as well now :confused:

bokehlicious
06-19-2009, 06:39 PM
W-I-M-B-Y with A-S-T-E-R-I-S-K.


Rafa would have been no match for Federer anyway :shrug: :awww: :hug:

norwegian_wood
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
What the hell's going on with the seeding/draw then?

Burrow
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
:woohoo:

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Hence the "should they meet" part of my comment. I think that Del Potro is more talented than Murray, from my perspective, irrespective of his success against Roger, Murray is the face of mediocrity. Moreover, the grass begins to play more and more like a medium-paced hard courts as the tournament progresses, which means that should Del Potro advance deep into the tournament (which he would need to do in order to meet Murray), it really shouldn't be an issue.

I think that Del Potro's record on grass has more to do with his youth and less to do with any supposed aversion to the particular surface itself.

With respect to Murray:

AO 2008 - loses to Tsonga
Wimbledon 2008 - Demolished by Nadal
USO 2008 - Demolished by Fed in the final after beating Nadal over the course of two days.
AO '09 - loses to Verdasco
Roland Garros '09 - loses to Gonzalez

Aside from proving himself to be the Queen of the best 2 out of 3 format, he's done nothing impressive. Consistency isn't good enough to win a Grand Slam.

:lol:

He's had a rather stellar career so far unless you only like careers of slam winning players.

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
So they are shuffling all the seeds now that Rafa is out? I'm really confused about this. I thought LL would take Rafa's place and everyone else would stay where they are :confused::confused::confused::confused:


I understand that a LL will NOT take Nadal's place, because the OOP had not been issued.

But there is some general confusion around on this matter, not least because the media is also confused. BBC gave some false information.

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Hence the "should they meet" part of my comment. I think that Del Potro is more talented than Murray, from my perspective, irrespective of his success against Roger, Murray is the face of mediocrity. Moreover, the grass begins to play more and more like a medium-paced hard court as the tournament progresses, which means that should Del Potro advance deep into the tournament (which he would need to do in order to meet Murray), it really shouldn't be an issue.

I think that Del Potro's record on grass has more to do with his youth and less to do with any supposed aversion to the particular surface itself.

With respect to Murray:

AO 2008 - loses to Tsonga
Wimbledon 2008 - Demolished by Nadal
USO 2008 - Demolished by Fed in the final after beating Nadal over the course of two days.
AO '09 - loses to Verdasco
Roland Garros '09 - loses to Gonzalez

Aside from proving himself to be the Queen of the best 2 out of 3 format, he's done nothing impressive. Consistency isn't good enough to win a Grand Slam.

Yeah, he sure is more talented. Lots of variety, this Del Potro. :lol:

Nice history of Murray's slam results.

I'll say it again. Murray has only played 14 slams. Federer reached his first GS final and won on his 18th attempt. Murray reached his first final on his 12th attempt. People seem to forget that Murray missed the most important part of 2007.

Also, if the grass starts to play like a medium paced HC, why shouldn't that be a problem for DP? He hasn't beaten Murray on hard. He managed to beat him on clay. He can join the club, in that respect.

BlueSwan
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
I was one of those who thought that he would play for sure. I'm always saddened by injuries to any player and particularly to great champions. While I would love for Federer to regain the #1 ranking, I want him to do it properly - not because Nadal is injured.

Get well soon Rafa.

Action Jackson
06-19-2009, 06:40 PM
I mean I don't like a lot of Nadal fans, but the facts are this, his health is way more important than any ranking points. So they better not rush his comeback, therefore doing further damage.

feuselino
06-19-2009, 06:41 PM
Bad news. Would have loved a rematch with Federer winning. Well, probably better in the long run for Nadal, he should get some rest. So Nadal should be good to go at the US Open, hopefully we'll see a Federer-Nadal final there, and Roger can dish out some payback! :)

Andre♥
06-19-2009, 06:42 PM
Those were EXHOs. Meaning: totally meaningless.
And do you really think a player, even more, the TOP SEED, withdraws from a GS without a very good (or rather: BAD) reason???

I've seen players playing through with a lot more pain than a tendinitis on a knee. I hate fatrena, but go watch her fighting with a fucked up ankle in Wimbledon against Hantuchova and then take world number one Henin to three sets in the following round while not moving at all.

Real champions don't give up no matter how bad injuries are, especially at Wimbledon. I would rather play Wimbledon and then be out for the rest of the season than skip the biggest tournament of the season.

Skipping Wimbledon to prepare for the rest of the season is like to skip desert in order to eat soup! :lol:

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 06:42 PM
I thought Del Potro would get Rafa's draw? I'm confused as well now :confused:

Del Potro will step into Nadal's position in the draw
Blake will take Del Pot's position (and draw)
I think Kiefer (could be wrong) gets Blake's spot.

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 06:43 PM
It must be pretty serious, much more than just run of the mill tendinitis (which Roddick says one can play through), to come to this. Obviously, hard courts will not be the best way to resume when he comes back.

How quickly things change. 5 weeks ago, the outlook for 2009 looked very different in tennis.

Quakes
06-19-2009, 06:43 PM
I was one of those who thought that he would play for sure. I'm always saddened by injuries to any player and particularly to great champions. While I would love for Federer to regain the #1 ranking, I want him to do it properly - not because Nadal is injured.

Get well soon Rafa.

Well, IMHO, Federer staying away from injury with his more intelligent style of play is a very proper way to do it. :)

Nidhogg
06-19-2009, 06:43 PM
Why didn't he just announce it before the draw was made?

ChinoRios4Ever
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Rafa rest for the USO :hug:

rofe
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
I feel sad that the #1 player is not playing a GS. Kind of a letdown. Nadal made so many improvements to his game that I was waiting for him to showcase those improvements. I would have liked to see him play against Murray or Fed since it would have been an interesting match after his RG loss. Anyway, hope he becomes fully fit soon.

Sapeod
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Hence the "should they meet" part of my comment. I think that Del Potro is more talented than Murray, from my perspective, irrespective of his success against Roger, Murray is the face of mediocrity. Moreover, the grass begins to play more and more like a medium-paced hard court as the tournament progresses, which means that should Del Potro advance deep into the tournament (which he would need to do in order to meet Murray), it really shouldn't be an issue.

I think that Del Potro's record on grass has more to do with his youth and less to do with any supposed aversion to the particular surface itself.

With respect to Murray:

Murray will kick the crap out of him.

AO 2008 - loses to Tsonga
Wimbledon 2008 - Demolished by Nadal
USO 2008 - Demolished by Fed in the final after beating Nadal over the course of two days.
AO '09 - loses to Verdasco
Roland Garros '09 - loses to Gonzalez

Aside from proving himself to be the Queen of the best 2 out of 3 format, he's done nothing impressive. Consistency isn't good enough to win a Grand Slam.
And you're full of bullshit :)
Andy will tear him a new A and if it is playing like a hard court that will strengthen Murray seeing as hard is his favourite surface :p

nihil66
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
sucks

Quakes
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Why didn't he just announce it before the draw was made?

Maybe he wants to see if the draw is easy, then he won't withdraw?

MariaV
06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Wow. I didn't think I'd feel this terrible. :sad:

Take this damn thing, Muzza. PLEASE.

Naaah, Fedsmug will win this no doubt whatsoever. :yawn: :zzz: :zzz: Congrats on the RG-Wimbledon back-to-back and the 15th Fedtards! :hatoff:
Young Muzza will find the way to f*ck this up. :o

NYCtennisfan
06-19-2009, 06:46 PM
It's terrible news whenever the #1 player and defending champion is out of a tournament. I hope he's healthy and ready to go by the USO.

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:47 PM
Federer, Murray and Djokovic might find themselves passing the no 1 ranking around.

cmurray
06-19-2009, 06:48 PM
Naaah, Fedsmug will win this no doubt whatsoever. :yawn: :zzz: :zzz: Congrats on the RG-Wimbledon back-to-back and the 15th Fedtards! :hatoff:
Young Muzza will find the way to f*ck this up. :o

C'mon Maria. Throw me a bone, will ya?

Maybe Muzza will figure it out? PLEASE MUZZA. FIGURE IT OUT!

Certinfy
06-19-2009, 06:49 PM
MURRAY! Go win this thing :)

Jimnik
06-19-2009, 06:51 PM
Expected.

Nadal's poor scheduling is finally costing him. Too much wear and tear to win MM events.

Glad he pulled out early enough to adjust the seedings properly. Would have been annoying to see a LL at the top of a slam draw.

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 06:51 PM
does anybody have a link to the official new draw? i'm confused as hell :confused:

twisturhead
06-19-2009, 06:51 PM
Sad Day

Burrow
06-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Bad news. Would have loved a rematch with Federer winning. Well, probably better in the long run for Nadal, he should get some rest. So Nadal should be good to go at the US Open, hopefully we'll see a Federer-Nadal final there, and Roger can dish out some payback! :)

speak for yourself, a final at the us open with them both? fuck off :zzz:

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Nadal shouldn't have bothered with the Tiriac invitational.

Quakes
06-19-2009, 06:53 PM
Why, Rafa, why? Get well soon because tennis isn't the same without you.

Certinfy
06-19-2009, 06:54 PM
Fifth seed Juan Martin del Potro will take Nadal's place in the draw while 17th seed David Ferrer will take up del Potro's slot.

It means Andy Murray's attempt to win a first Grand Slam title has been made easier with del Potro now seeded to meet the world number three in the semi-finals.


From SkySports

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:54 PM
Fifth seed Juan Martin del Potro will take Nadal's place in the draw while 17th seed David Ferrer will take up del Potro's slot.

It means Andy Murray's attempt to win a first Grand Slam title has been made easier with del Potro now seeded to meet the world number three in the semi-finals.


From SkySports

Blake is 17th seed.

Quakes
06-19-2009, 06:54 PM
Federer, Murray and Djokovic might find themselves passing the no 1 ranking around.

:haha: :haha: :haha: in the next five years you mean?

Clydey
06-19-2009, 06:54 PM
does anybody have a link to the official new draw? i'm confused as hell :confused:

Del Potro takes Nadal's draw. Blake takes Del Potro's draw. Kiefer takes Blake's draw.

That's how it works, in a nutshell.

prima donna
06-19-2009, 06:57 PM
:lol:

He's had a rather stellar career so far unless you only like careers of slam winning players.
You're reasonable enough to apprehend the context in which I referred to Murray as mediocre. No, he's not a challenger level player but he belongs to the same class as Lleyton Hewitt.

As to your comment about only supporting players who win Grand Slams, I've been part of this forum long enough for most to understand that I'm far from a gloryhunter.

Jimnik
06-19-2009, 06:58 PM
Fifth seed Juan Martin del Potro will take Nadal's place in the draw while 17th seed David Ferrer will take up del Potro's slot.

Ferrer is the 16th seed. It's Blake that will replace Del Potro and Kiefer will replace Blake.

MrChopin
06-19-2009, 06:58 PM
I was one of those who thought that he would play for sure. I'm always saddened by injuries to any player and particularly to great champions. While I would love for Federer to regain the #1 ranking, I want him to do it properly - not because Nadal is injured.

Get well soon Rafa.

Roger is doing it the proper way. People think that Rafa should, by right, be able to play indefinitely while pounding his legs into the ground, a game that by definition is the main mark of success against Fed. Rafa burned the candle so low after the last 18 months and finally got Wimbledon, #1, Olympic Gold, SF at hardcourt slams... but then he had to pull out of TMC and DC.

He did the same this year and has had to sacrifice other things. There isn't a lot of leeway in the schedule, but Nadal needs to take advantage at any opportunity. Hopefully he will stay away from excessive tournaments, perhaps even mandatory tournaments in the future because he deserves to be healthy and tennis fans would prefer that he show up at the biggest tournaments.

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 06:59 PM
You're reasonable enough to apprehend the context in which I referred to Murray as mediocre. No, he's not a challenger level player but he's belongs to the same class as Lleyton Hewitt.

As to your comment about only supporting players who win Grand Slams, I've been part of this forum long enough for most to understand that I'm far from a gloryhunter.

Hewitt's had a great career. Us Brits will hail Murray as a legend if he wins just a solitary slam title (1930s the last male).

I know you aren't, you're actually very knowledgeable, but Murray has achieved a lot in the game already for a British player and Rios didn't win a major but is still fondly looked back on.

Certinfy
06-19-2009, 06:59 PM
Lol i dno, just posted what SkySports wrote :P

feuselino
06-19-2009, 07:00 PM
speak for yourself, a final at the us open with them both? fuck off :zzz:

Well, if Nadal somehow manages to slip to Nr. 3 before the US Open, I'm also good with payback being dished out in the semis! :)

kiwi10is
06-19-2009, 07:00 PM
Lucky lucky Kiefer.
well, I liked his first place in the draw more

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 07:00 PM
Del Potro takes Nadal's draw. Blake takes Del Potro's draw. Kiefer takes Blake's draw.

That's how it works, in a nutshell.

Thanks. Congratulations to your fave for reaching the final :hatoff: .

Clydey
06-19-2009, 07:01 PM
Thanks. Congratulations to your fave for reaching the final :hatoff: .

Don't jinx him. :mad:

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Much harder draw for Potro now. Hewitt -> Dima -> Stepanek. Hewitt and Dima he would dominate on other surfaces but not grass, Stepanek is a bad matchup even on hard, let alone grass.

Aenea
06-19-2009, 07:03 PM
It must be pretty serious, much more than just run of the mill tendinitis (which Roddick says one can play through), to come to this. Obviously, hard courts will not be the best way to resume when he comes back.

How quickly things change. 5 weeks ago, the outlook for 2009 looked very different in tennis.

This is how doctor Angel Ruiz-Cotorro formulated the injury :scared:

"After the appropriate tests (MRI, Ultrasound scans and gammagraphy) Mr. Rafael Nadal suffers from insertion tendonitis in the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema."

Very sad Rafa had to pull out of Wimbledon with an injury :sad: Hope he will recover and be able to play at least at USOpen. And I'm so mad with his camp for this crazy scheduling :mad:

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Don't jinx him. :mad:

The draw is so easy it's unjinxable mate :wavey:

guga2120
06-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Such a shame he's out. Tennis is not the same w/out him.

His decision to play fuc%in Madrid, has really cost him so much.

LocoPorElTenis
06-19-2009, 07:04 PM
Btw, also congrats to Federer for reclaiming the #1 ranking :hatoff:

rocketassist
06-19-2009, 07:05 PM
Such a shame he's out. Tennis is not the same w/out him.

His decision to play fuc%in Madrid, has really cost him so much.

You mean the Ion Tiriac Invitational Masters? Waste of time and he's paying for it.

duong
06-19-2009, 07:05 PM
Did he say when he hopes to come back ?

Montreal or only US Open ?

DrJules
06-19-2009, 07:05 PM
I mean I don't like a lot of Nadal fans, but the facts are this, his health is way more important than any ranking points. So they better not rush his comeback, therefore doing further damage.

The reality is that after Wimbledon the joint smasher season starts - hard courts.

Björki
06-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Kiefers draw is not better, the other one seems easier.

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 07:10 PM
This is how doctor Angel Ruiz-Cotorro formulated the injury :scared:

"After the appropriate tests (MRI, Ultrasound scans and gammagraphy) Mr. Rafael Nadal suffers from insertion tendonitis in the superior end of both kneecaps with a light osseous edema."


I'll have to google that out some time to understand what that means really, but thank you for posting.

malisha
06-19-2009, 07:11 PM
pity but expected.

cant see how this makes Fed bigger favourite:lol:

Sunset of Age
06-19-2009, 07:12 PM
Very sad Rafa had to pull out of Wimbledon with an injury :sad: Hope he will recover and be able to play at least at USOpen. And I'm so mad with his camp for this crazy scheduling :mad:

I think we all are... :mad:

Clydey
06-19-2009, 07:13 PM
If either Federer or Murray wins Wimbledon, I'm pretty sure they go to number 1. Murray's 0 pointer from last year is replaced by Queens a couple of weeks after Wimbledon. If Federer wins, he goes directly to number 1.

pica_pica
06-19-2009, 07:14 PM
:sobbing: It's real.....how can some people be so cruel and said he faked it before the press conference :sobbing:
:hug: rest well, Rafa

I hope JMDP can go far now that he takes Rafa's place in the draw.

Smoke944
06-19-2009, 07:14 PM
I hope Amritraj is the LL :p

Everko
06-19-2009, 07:14 PM
sad day

<Eve>
06-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.

amonb
06-19-2009, 07:18 PM
Gutted. :sad:

I wanted to see Fed crush the moonballer. No way Fed would play as bad as he did last year.Ah well, looks like Fed's gonna get crushed by Muzza now!!! :boxing:

duong
06-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.


it's Acasuso (I know they made the mistake on the site :rolleyes: ) : strange that it's not Kiefer :confused:

Ububub
06-19-2009, 07:21 PM
Three or four years ago almost all of the "so-called" experts were predicting that because of his style of play, Rafa's success would be meteoric, but fleeting. For a few years, his knees kept him from finishing out the schedule after the US Open. Now they have stopped him as early as Roland Garros and SW19.

Maybe they were experts (w/o the "so-called") after all.

decrepitude
06-19-2009, 07:22 PM
Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.


:lol:

I was going to ask what the dickens you were talking about, I now see it's a quote from the Wimbledon website. . .

There was a bit earlier in the review of the men's draw, where they said it would be Murray's fifth Wimbledon when it will be his fourth, and also referred to the seventh seed Simon Gilles instead of the eighth seed Gilles Simon.

Who writes this rubbish? Do they actually get paid? Can I have the job instead?

gogogirl
06-19-2009, 07:23 PM
Hey All,

I'm sorry to hear this too - but this is one of those things that makes me go hmmmmmmmmmm?

First of all, why would Rafa play two complete matches with the second one going to a tiebreak? Why not just play your first match at Wimby and then the next and so on until you can't play no more? It makes absolutely no sense to me that he played two matches - and you can call them exhibitions all you wish. He could have spent that time preparing for his 1st round Centre Court match.

Here's another wonderment and question I've had since he lost to Robin at the French. If he'd won that match would he have withdrawn from the tourney? If he'd won that match and then his semi - would he have withdrawn then? If he had won the FO final again for the fifth straight year would there be all this concern for his playing Wimby? And again, if he had beaten Solderling would he have withdrawn from the French the next day? I doubt it.

If he had won both of the matches he played against Hewitt and Stan would he have then played Wimby? WITH? I understand that some say he looked hampered in playing those matches - but why take chances with your health by playing them in the first place if you know by doing so - you are damaging your knees further?

I think by this point, Rafa's confidence has been harmed - and his pride bruised - and especially after losing the two matches he just played. Something is not adding up - and we know he's never been a huge fan of the US Open Series. No telling when we'll see him again.

I wish Rafa well also - and hate it that he's not fit enough to try to defend his title - but to me - his phyche was severly bothered by his FO loss, his not making further history, by the mere and frustrating to him, fact of who beat him and how the crowd acted and reacted.

I'm not accusing him of faking all of this, but any astute person would wonder about his motives. Needless to say - it is his health he has to deal with all the way round - mental - emotional and physical.

"GET WELL SOON RAFA"

amonb
06-19-2009, 07:24 PM
I've seen players playing through with a lot more pain than a tendinitis on a knee. I hate fatrena, but go watch her fighting with a fucked up ankle in Wimbledon against Hantuchova and then take world number one Henin to three sets in the following round while not moving at all.

Real champions don't give up no matter how bad injuries are, especially at Wimbledon. I would rather play Wimbledon and then be out for the rest of the season than skip the biggest tournament of the season.

Skipping Wimbledon to prepare for the rest of the season is like to skip desert in order to eat soup! :lol:If he's injured, he's injured, he can't play. Are you stoopid or what???

Jimnik
06-19-2009, 07:24 PM
Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Nadal's place will be taken by fifth seed Juan Martin Del Potro. Del Potro's place will be taken by the 17th seed James Blake. Blake's place will be taken by Jose Arguso of Argentina and a lucky loser will fill Arguso's spot.


it's Acasuso (I know they made the mistake on the site :rolleyes: ) : strange that it's not Kiefer :confused:
Doesn't make any sense. They have to promote the highest unseeded player surely. Must be a mistake.

Corey Feldman
06-19-2009, 07:25 PM
So do I. If anyone deserves a slam win with a big fat ugly asterisk next to it, it's Murray. :angel:Roddick might win

then he can have 2 career Atrerisk cups!

<Eve>
06-19-2009, 07:26 PM
:lol:

I was going to ask what the dickens you were talking about, I now see it's a quote from the Wimbledon website. . .
:lol: maybe i should've added I didn't make that up, but indeed i quoted from the article about nadal... :scratch:

but as we've seen at twitter today, they aren't really accurate :rolleyes:

superslam77
06-19-2009, 07:26 PM
So do I. If anyone deserves a slam win with a big fat ugly asterisk next to it, it's Murray. :angel:

More like Nadull with an ASTERISK :rolleyes:

Did he get caught?

MTF expected a dirtballer to last forever :worship:

Just look at the history of retrievers!! :wavey:

Surcouf
06-19-2009, 07:26 PM
All the haters who said he was not injured look totally stupid now.

It shows that he was injured at Roland Garros and that he can not defend his chance at Wimbledon. Very sad to lose his two most important titles on injury , and the number one position as well.

I can only hope he will can back fresh for the US Open and will take the only slam he has not won. Go Nadal, the fighting spirit will get you back in the best shape possible.

your_valentine
06-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Adios :wavey:

HeretiC
06-19-2009, 07:31 PM
After 15 days we are going to watch Sampras giving the trophy to Federer for his 15th slam reclaiming the No 1 spot. How quickly things can change. :eek:

RafaTheBest
06-19-2009, 07:32 PM
All the haters who said he was not injured look totally stupid now.

They looked stupid before. This just confirms it. Actually the stupidity of most this board has long since been proven, but this it just further proof supporting it.

romaine
06-19-2009, 07:33 PM
Comes as a surprise to me really.I thought the 3 weeks he had would help him get better.

JolánGagó
06-19-2009, 07:33 PM
So do I. If anyone deserves a slam win with a big fat ugly asterisk next to it, it's Murray. :angel:

:ras:

hata!

tangerine_dream
06-19-2009, 07:37 PM
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/834/asteriskmurray.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/asteriskmurray.jpg/)

<Eve>
06-19-2009, 07:39 PM
Ok they changed it on the wimby site:

"Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Number five seed Juan Martin Del Potro replaces Nadal at the top of the draw. The 17th seed James Blake moves to line 65 to take Del Potro's position. Nicolas Kiefer moves to line 56 to take Blake's position and lucky loser Thiago Alves takes Kiefer's position on line 61."

DrJules
06-19-2009, 07:39 PM
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/834/asteriskmurray.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/asteriskmurray.jpg/)

In 2 and a bit weeks that will be a Wimbledon cup as Murray wins Wimbledon.

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Nadull, what a Spartan.

Giving up before the start.

What a quitter.

Clydey
06-19-2009, 07:41 PM
Whether Murray or Federer wins, Scotland will have cause to celebrate.

http://thetennistimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/roger-federer-when-young.png

Dini
06-19-2009, 07:43 PM
^ OMG. What is Fed wearing. :tape:

On topic, this is tragic. :sad: Not to be able to fight for his title or his ranking sucks really badly. This is not the way he should lose it, but alas that's what's he's faced with. Get well rafa. :hug:

DrJules
06-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Nadull, what a Spartan.

Giving up before the start.

What a quitter.

Sometimes you go to far and this is one of them.

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2009, 07:44 PM
All the haters who said he was not injured look totally stupid now.

It shows that he was injured at Roland Garros and that he can not defend his chance at Wimbledon. Very sad to lose his two most important titles on injury , and the number one position as well.

I can only hope he will can back fresh for the US Open and will take the only slam he has not won. Go Nadal, the fighting spirit will get you back in the best shape possible.

I'd feel stupider if I were a fan of a quitter.

Allez
06-19-2009, 07:44 PM
He had to wait until the draw came out...he really does not want Roger winning that 15th slam. This has Uncle Toni written all over it. No one is stupid enough to believe there was a chance Nadal would turn the situation around in a day. He should have pulled out yesterday. Still there will be a huge gaping hole in the men's tournament. Sad. Murray's my pick for the tournament now.

Noleta
06-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Nadal:sad: really hope this isn't that serious as if being out for the rest of the season:scared:

Cloudygirl
06-19-2009, 07:45 PM
I'd feel stupider if I were a fan of a quitter.


:rolleyes::p

kiwi10is
06-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Ok they changed it on the wimby site:

"Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Number five seed Juan Martin Del Potro replaces Nadal at the top of the draw. The 17th seed James Blake moves to line 65 to take Del Potro's position. Nicolas Kiefer moves to line 56 to take Blake's position and lucky loser Thiago Alves takes Kiefer's position on line 61."

OMG :smash: stupid website :mad: I nearly got a heartattack because I thought Kiwi also withdrew

Clydey
06-19-2009, 07:45 PM
^ OMG. What is Fed wearing. :tape:

On topic, this is tragic. :sad: Not to be able to fight for his title or his ranking sucks really badly. This is not the way he should lose it, but alas that's what's he's faced with. Get well rafa. :hug:

That's Scotland's football kit from 1986.

No idea why Fed was randomly wearing it as a kid. :lol:

RafaTheBest
06-19-2009, 07:46 PM
I'd feel stupider if I were a fan of a quitter.

No need to worry, you are plenty stupid regardless of whom you are a fan.

robinhood
06-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Hard to comprehend the logic behind him playing all those (unnecessary) tourneys for months "with pain," and somehow not realizing that "the pain" just might get worse without the proper rest between tourneys.... especially with FO and Wimbledon looming large....
:confused::confused::confused:

As badly as I feel for Rafa, he and his camp are dearly paying the price for it.

I can't imagine him pulling all these stunts just to rationalize that one loss at FO, so hopefully this will be a true wake up call for all of them, and his fans will finally see some smart scheduling and healthier Rafa soon.

«Ivan»
06-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Nadull, what a Spartan.

Giving up before the start.

What a quitter.

curly,why don't you....you know?

duong
06-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Ok they changed it on the wimby site:

"Nadal's absence will cause a reshuffle in the men’s singles draw. Number five seed Juan Martin Del Potro replaces Nadal at the top of the draw. The 17th seed James Blake moves to line 65 to take Del Potro's position. Nicolas Kiefer moves to line 56 to take Blake's position and lucky loser Thiago Alves takes Kiefer's position on line 61."

Did they make a joke ?
Who was this Arguso ? :haha:

twisturhead
06-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Nadull, what a Spartan.

Giving up before the start.

What a quitter.

LOL

dusan1610
06-19-2009, 07:48 PM
oh Rafa :sad:...buT there is easy job gor Novak....:)

Dini
06-19-2009, 07:49 PM
That's Scotland's football kit from 1986.

No idea why Fed was randomly wearing it as a kid. :lol:

That's so odd. :lol: :scratch:

Avon
06-19-2009, 07:50 PM
Nadull, what a Spartan.

Giving up before the start.

What a quitter.

I prefer Djokovic who gives it a go. Then quits when the sun shines .

mitalidas
06-19-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm sure Hewitt is looking at this like "the draw just opened up for me" and thinks he is the one who is going to benefit the most (he might be able to milk it pretty well IMO even though he is under the radar).

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2009, 07:52 PM
No need to worry, you are plenty stupid regardless of whom you are a fan.

Look who's talking. One of the daftest posters in MTF.

"Sparta!" :retard:

Your mental development must have stopped when you were 5. I mean, are you older than 5?

curly,why don't you....you know?

Keep owning fanboys?

No need to ask.

thrust
06-19-2009, 07:53 PM
What a pussy!

If he was a warrior, he would have played through pain!

Hopefully your are not serious, as that would be cruel and idiotic! Rafa did the wise thing. Hopefully he wiill get well soon and be more sensible about his tournament selection. Forget rankings and the idiots who run the ATP!

kaylee
06-19-2009, 07:54 PM
well sadly I have to agree with some of the comments on here. There was no reason to play either Monte Carlo or Barcelona, they are only level 250. Madrid he had no choice except perhaps he should have pulled out of that one injured. I am sure that semi-final with Nole did the worse damage. Perhaps they will look at the clay court season better next year, on the other hand most tennis players make their own schedules so I don't really think you can blame that on Uncle Tony.

Best him rest now and get ready for the hard court season, US Open title (hopefully) here we come.

Cashif
06-19-2009, 07:56 PM
Now I have lost the interest on mens side of Wimbledon. Congrats to Fed for yet another title..

Dini
06-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Now I have lost the interest on mens side of Wimbledon. Congrats to Fed for yet another title..

Hasn't the FO taught you anything? Nothing is a given in tennis. NOTHING.

«Ivan»
06-19-2009, 08:02 PM
this is sad day for tennis.habibko's 'n glenn's http://i42.tinypic.com/omn7t.gif will (with the little help) win again.

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2009, 08:02 PM
this is sad day for tennis.habibko's 'n glenn's http://i42.tinypic.com/omn7t.gif will (with the little help) win again.

Are you this slow?

I couldn't care less about Federer.

«Ivan»
06-19-2009, 08:03 PM
:kiss:

Sofonda Cox
06-19-2009, 08:05 PM
This is good news. In fact, Wimbledon is worth watching this year now :)

twisturhead
06-19-2009, 08:05 PM
Look who's talking. One of the daftest posters in MTF.

"Sparta!" :retard:

Your mental development must have stopped when you were 5. I mean, are you older than 5?



Keep owning fanboys?

No need to ask.

:haha:

Burrow
06-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Hasn't the FO taught you anything? Nothing is a given in tennis. NOTHING.

Uh...yes it is.

What the hell has Roland Garros taught you? Just because Nadal got dumped out?

Clydey
06-19-2009, 08:08 PM
this is sad day for tennis.habibko's 'n glenn's http://i42.tinypic.com/omn7t.gif will (with the little help) win again.

Why do you have a picture of Boyzone's Stephen Gateley in your avatar?

http://news.pinkpaper.com/uploads/News_Entertainment/Stephen-Gately.gif

zeleni
06-19-2009, 08:09 PM
Bad news!

I feel gility because I brought that article (omen!) with ATP trainer Novotny. Therefore I shall punish myself and put raven in avatar.

Sofonda Cox
06-19-2009, 08:11 PM
http://news.pinkpaper.com/uploads/News_Entertainment/Stephen-Gately.gif

I saw him getting off a train once in at Victoria train station......he ain't hot close up :sad:

Hingisova
06-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Hasn't the FO taught you anything? Nothing is a given in tennis. NOTHING.

Of course, anybody can step up and win this tournament, I feel for Rafa at such a young age to be troubled by tendinitis but those are the breaks...some good some bad..:sad: a quality player like Rafa will be missed for sure but his not being there does not make Roger a "shoo-in"...but given his play at RG it certainly enhances his chances but he still has to earn it! Get well soon Rafa!:worship:

duong
06-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Uh...yes it is.

What the hell has Roland Garros taught you? Just because Nadal got dumped out?

he's totally right, I think all those comments are stupid :rolleyes:

Burrow
06-19-2009, 08:28 PM
he's totally right, I think all those comments are stupid :rolleyes:

what comments?

Andi-M
06-19-2009, 08:29 PM
Poor Rafa hope he gets well soon, the tornament will be odd without him, but Im liking A.Murrays chances.

ballbasher101
06-19-2009, 08:33 PM
As a tennis fan this is really sad news :sad:. I wish Rafa a fast recovery. A Federer vs Murray final seems more likely right now.

jrm
06-19-2009, 08:35 PM
Now if only Murray would be out of the tennis world for a year

Sofonda Cox
06-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Now if only Murray would be out of the tennis world for a year

this would be amaze :D:D:D:D

niknak33
06-19-2009, 08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCySTWFcnlM

Chiseller
06-19-2009, 08:40 PM
How could Dr. Federer be wrong? :awww:

brent-o
06-19-2009, 08:49 PM
Good, rest up and regroup Rafa. This break should give him an unprecedented level of energy going into the latter half of the season and the US Open, energy which is usually spent during his RG and Wimbledon campaigns. As for Del Potro getting a lucky break, I doubt it'll make much of a difference. I can't see Del Potro doing great on grass. Low, skidding balls. Yeah, his remarkable ability to handle those have made all the difference in his matches with Federer (RG match aside, I guess).

alfonsojose
06-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Pocahontas :wavey:

propi
06-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Rafa :(

Well let's hope another fave of me takes this :rolleyes:

Get well, Rafa, take the whole season off if necessary, but get back 100 % healthy, tennis needs you fine :D

duong
06-19-2009, 09:07 PM
what comments?

The comments that Federer is certain to win Wimbledon.

No nothing is made at all. Federer is quite old and he has the toughest draw he's maybe had for years in Wimbledon.

Voo de Mar
06-19-2009, 09:10 PM
Rafa's withdrawal is very good for Blake, previously he had almost impossible draw to reach 4th round, now it's very probable.

guga2120
06-19-2009, 09:15 PM
How could Dr. Federer be wrong? :awww:

What, did the Swiss Miss, think he was perfectly fine in Paris?

born_on_clay
06-19-2009, 09:43 PM
It's the worst day in my life :(

Johnny Groove
06-19-2009, 09:47 PM
Gu showing once again in this thread that he is the lowest scum on this fucking board. What a shameless life he must lead. I pity him.

As for Nadal pulling out, not too surprising. What is surprising is all the "experts" on MTF that just knew he was faking and mafioso Toni was just pulling pranks again. Not to mention Dr. Federer :rolleyes:

He just needs to rest up for as long as possible. And don't come back until he's 100%. Who gives a fuck about ranking points or defending titles. Health is the most important thing for the continuance of his career.

Bijoux0021
06-19-2009, 09:48 PM
As a tennis fan this is really sad news :sad:. I wish Rafa a fast recovery. A Federer vs Murray final seems more likely right now.
Exactly!

Even if you're not a Nadal fan, this is very sad news for tennis fans. This just makes last year's final even more memorable and classic. I'm really sad right now.:sad::sad:

Get well soon, Rafa!

Vaccine
06-19-2009, 09:49 PM
It's the worst day in my life :(

yeah I feel quite miserable too

r2473
06-19-2009, 09:50 PM
Rafa out of Wimbledon

Did he lose in the qualies :devil:

Vaccine
06-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Did he lose in the qualies :devil:

since when world no.1 goes through qualies :o

born_on_clay
06-19-2009, 09:54 PM
So now Rafa will drop to no.2 and find his fighting spirit again :)

twisturhead
06-19-2009, 10:01 PM
So now Rafa will drop to no.2 and find his fighting spirit again :)

when did he lose it??

OrinUK
06-19-2009, 10:08 PM
The BBC Muzza machine will be in full hype mode now. Sue Barker must be wetting her panties at the thought of a Fed/Muzza final.

I hope the media frenzy will not hurt Muzza chances, as the little punk has grown on me.

Sad for Rafa

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 10:09 PM
I just heard the news!

Wow.. That's a shame.

I don't even know what to say.

I hope he takes the time he needs to recover..

Fedex
06-19-2009, 10:13 PM
That really sucks. This tournament won't be the same without him. Get well, Rafa.

Steelq
06-19-2009, 10:13 PM
It seems that Madrid semifinal match is the match which decided rest of the season.It totally fucked up two players who leaded in the race until then,Nadal physically and Djokovic mentally.

Calidreth
06-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Get well soon champ

Clay Death
06-19-2009, 10:19 PM
As for Nadal pulling out, not too surprising. What is surprising is all the "experts" on MTF that just knew he was faking and mafioso Toni was just pulling pranks again. Not to mention Dr. Federer :rolleyes:

He just needs to rest up for as long as possible. And don't come back until he's 100%. Who gives a fuck about ranking points or defending titles. Health is the most important thing for the continuance of his career.



uncle tony does not lie and he never taught his nephew to lie or be dishonest either.

it doesnt take rocket scientist to see that the clay monster had struggled the entire clay season this year with his movement. he won monte carlo, barcelona, and rome but it took a massive effort. his serve was not there and his return game was less than optimal. you could just see that he was less than sharp and was clearly struggling with his movement.

all one had to was just open his/her eyes to see what was happening on the court.

now does that excuse the clay monster? the answer is no. he fucked up a good thing and he knows it. he brought it upon himself and was aware of as it was happening to him and yet could not get himself to stop.

chances are pretty good he would have taken the roland garros title and also he would be here at Wimby if he had just done the following:

1. skip rotterdam where he fucked his knee up pretty badly. he knew bloody well that he was dead and even in some pain in the knee and yet went to rotterdam anyway. they threw nearly 1 mil at him just to show up. his average match time there was 2.5 hours. the match with Tsonga went on for over 3 hours.

2. walk away from his match against D-Pot in miami. he had just won indian wells and needed to back off in miami. he was in great pain long before that match and his team was very concerned. he needed to walk away from that match.

3. he needed to walk away from his match against Djokovic in Madrid. he was in pain long before that match and yet he goes on to play for 4 hours in that one.

is any wonder that they both crashed out of roland garros? they both had played way too much in too short a period of time.

only the clay monster had an extra problem to worry about. in addition to being spent both physically and mentally, he had the knee issues.

so he knew what was happening to him as it was happening and so did his team. and yet nobody did anything.

price for that is steeper than hell itself. they gambled away the 2 most prestigious slams on the planet and they gambled away the #1 rank.

and it all could have been different and prevented had he done those 3 things i listed.

now for next year, i hope he has the good sense to go to south america and stay on clay and protect his clay season and keep his knees healthy on the soft, cushy surface.

tearing them on hard courts and then overplaying on clay will take him out of the sport altogether next time. he only needs to playthe required hard court events like the masters events and even then he has to back off and walk away from time to time if the knee issues persist.

robiht
06-19-2009, 10:26 PM
Congrats to all " MTF experts " /or Nadal haters/ who said that Nadal is faking the injury and the tiredness...:smash::smash::smash::banghead: :banghead: :banghead::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
I'm only faking my injury, no? :banghead:
And ofc uncle Tony is a liar,who always speaks bullshit.:cuckoo::cuckoo:
Yes, Nadal was completely healthy after the 4 hour epic match against Novak and he played worse than his opponent at RG(Soderling). :hatoff::hatoff:
Dr. Federer :scratch: :haha: :haha: :haha:

miura
06-19-2009, 10:27 PM
This indeed unfortuante. I was looking forward to seeing Nadal in action at SW19. Things will definately not be the same without him.
Even if this is very disappointing for his fans and probably to Rafa himself, it's probably for the best to let the knees heal properly.

Playing at 50% and losing AND hurting his knees even more would have been stupid even though some properly stupid people here at this forum thinks that would have been best.

I hope for a speedy recovery and that we'll see Rafa back at his absolute best as soon as possible!

guga2120
06-19-2009, 10:30 PM
chances are pretty goodwould have taken the roland garros title and also he would be here at Wimby if he had just done the following:




Pretty good? No, he would have certainly won in Paris if he were healthy, and easily.

You are right about the schelduling though, his choice to play Madrid,has cost him so much.

Schu
06-19-2009, 10:31 PM
Just heard he pulled out. The last player I cared about in Wimbledon is gone before it even starts.

But worse than Rafa not getting a chance to defend his title and quite possibly loosing #1 is the fact that the Murray machine will be unbearable!! ARGH!!!

I am disappointed that he waited until the draw was made to pull out and screw up everything. Maybe he hoped it would be better and held out to the last minute but seems to me if its so bad that he can't play (and I believe it is) he would have/should have known before today.

Maybe something got lost in the translation but he's not playing because he's not 100% - doesn't sound like Rafa. I'm not saying he should play if hurt but he, at least according to Uncle Toni, played hurt many times in the past, although he usually managed to win anyway until reality hit him in the face at RG. Rest up Rafa and get 100% for US Open PLEASE!!!

Johnny Groove
06-19-2009, 10:31 PM
so people are just finding that out about Gu. he is less than a scum for wishing the kind of crap he has wished on the clay monster for months now. who but the greatest of all retards can take him seriously anyway.

what kind of sports fan can you be if you stooop so low in the gutter to wish injuries to the game`s top players?

finally the hapless termites will never learn since they are too busy with their hate agenda here at GM.

uncle tony does not lie and he never taught his nephew to lie or be dishonest either.

it doesnt take rocket scientist to see that the clay monster had struggled the entire clay season this year with his movement. he won monte carlo, barcelona, and rome but it took a massive effort. his serve was not there and his return game was less than optimal. you could just see that he was less than sharp and was clearly struggling with his movement.

all one had to was just open his/her eyes to see what was happening on the court.

now does that excuse the clay monster? the answer is no. he fucked up a good thing and he knows it. he brought it upon himself and was aware of as it was happening to him and yet could not get himself to stop.

chances are pretty good he would have taken the roland garros title and also he would be here at Wimby if he had just done the following:

1. skip rotterdam where he fucked his knee up pretty badly. he knew bloody well that he was dead and even in some pain in the knee and yet went to rotterdam anyway. they threw nearly 1 mil at him just to show up. his average match time there was 2.5 hours. the match with Tsonga went on for over 3 hours.

2. walk away from his match against D-Pot in miami. he had just won indian wells and needed to back off in miami. he was in great pain long before that match and his team was very concerned. he needed to walk away from that match.

3. he needed to walk away from his match against Djokovic in Madrid. he was in pain long before that match and yet he goes on to play for 4 hours in that one.

is any wonder that they both crashed out of roland garros? they both had played way too much in too short a period of time.

only the clay monster had an extra problem to worry about. in addition to being spent both physically and mentally, he had the knee issues.

so he knew what was happening to him as it was happening and so did his team. and yet nobody did anything.

price for that is steeper than hell itself. they gambled away the 2 most prestigious slams on the planet and they gambled away the #1 rank.

and it all could have been different and prevented had he done those 3 things i listed.

now for next year, i hope he has the good sense to go to south america and stay on clay and protect his clay season and keep his knees healthy on the soft, cushy surface.

tearing them on hard courts and then overplaying on clay will take him out of the sport altogether next time. he only needs to playthe required hard court events like the masters events and even then he has to back off and walk away from time to time if the knee issues persist.

Agree with every word.

Vaccine
06-19-2009, 10:33 PM
so people are just finding that out about Gu. he is less than a scum for wishing the kind of crap he has wished on the clay monster for months now. who but the greatest of all retards can take him seriously anyway.

what kind of sports fan can you be if you stooop so low in the gutter to wish injuries to the game`s top players?

finally the hapless termites will never learn since they are too busy with their hate agenda here at GM.

uncle tony does not lie and he never taught his nephew to lie or be dishonest either.

it doesnt take rocket scientist to see that the clay monster had struggled the entire clay season this year with his movement. he won monte carlo, barcelona, and rome but it took a massive effort. his serve was not there and his return game was less than optimal. you could just see that he was less than sharp and was clearly struggling with his movement.

all one had to was just open his/her eyes to see what was happening on the court.

now does that excuse the clay monster? the answer is no. he fucked up a good thing and he knows it. he brought it upon himself and was aware of as it was happening to him and yet could not get himself to stop.

chances are pretty good he would have taken the roland garros title and also he would be here at Wimby if he had just done the following:

1. skip rotterdam where he fucked his knee up pretty badly. he knew bloody well that he was dead and even in some pain in the knee and yet went to rotterdam anyway. they threw nearly 1 mil at him just to show up. his average match time there was 2.5 hours. the match with Tsonga went on for over 3 hours.

2. walk away from his match against D-Pot in miami. he had just won indian wells and needed to back off in miami. he was in great pain long before that match and his team was very concerned. he needed to walk away from that match.

3. he needed to walk away from his match against Djokovic in Madrid. he was in pain long before that match and yet he goes on to play for 4 hours in that one.

is any wonder that they both crashed out of roland garros? they both had played way too much in too short a period of time.

only the clay monster had an extra problem to worry about. in addition to being spent both physically and mentally, he had the knee issues.

so he knew what was happening to him as it was happening and so did his team. and yet nobody did anything.

price for that is steeper than hell itself. they gambled away the 2 most prestigious slams on the planet and they gambled away the #1 rank.

and it all could have been different and prevented had he done those 3 things i listed.

now for next year, i hope he has the good sense to go to south america and stay on clay and protect his clay season and keep his knees healthy on the soft, cushy surface.

tearing them on hard courts and then overplaying on clay will take him out of the sport altogether next time. he only needs to playthe required hard court events like the masters events and even then he has to back off and walk away from time to time if the knee issues persist.

It's very easy to state what's wrong after the damage is done. I know you're right, they should've been more careful but what happened, happened.

duong
06-19-2009, 10:35 PM
Not to mention Dr. Federer :rolleyes:


Who's that "Dr Federer" by the way ? :confused:

Sorry for my ignorance :o

Johnny Groove
06-19-2009, 10:39 PM
Who's that "Dr Federer" by the way ? :confused:

Sorry for my ignorance :o

Linda started a thread about a week back or so with a quote where Roger gave his thoughts on Nadal's injury, stating he believed Rafa to be at Wimbledon and ready to play.

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 10:40 PM
Who's that "Dr Federer" by the way ? :confused:

Sorry for my ignorance :o

You didn't see that thread! :lol:

Roger said in a presser that he doubted Rafa would pull-out of Wimby. Roger said something like he'd seen Rafa play for years, and that he would know if Rafa were injured enough not to play! Then he said Raga's injuries didn't appear that serious to him, or something like that.

We thought Roger had super-natural diagnostic powers, but I guess not!

FedFan_2007
06-19-2009, 10:42 PM
Yeah I have to admit it was pretty stupid for Fed to open his mouth about Rafa's knees. Better to just STFU there Rog. Is it a sign of the Ego King coming back?

Byrd
06-19-2009, 10:45 PM
I take it customs managed to take his 'medicine' off him hence no way of vamosing his way to the title. Bamos!!!

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 10:45 PM
Yeah I have to admit it was pretty stupid for Fed to open his mouth about Rafa's knees. Better to just STFU there Rog. Is it a sign of the Ego King coming back?

I guess I'm gonna have delete "Dr." from "dropshot's" title! :lol:

So now it's only Roger, king of the dropshot and more, Federer, esq., GOAT!

He'll always be "dropshot" to me!

I'm just kidding.........ya'll! Now it's the GOAT!

Maybe we'll have a GOAT v Duck final!

Of course, then where would that leave Tommy?
I'm hoping Tommy can make a dent in the draw!

luie
06-19-2009, 10:47 PM
I'am truly sorry for nadal & his true fans but pleased abit because of theRAFA,nadalsharapova,start the game ,vida etc.etc.
Nadal didn't suffer a freak accident or something,he brought it upon himself,by his style of play.The same style of play that brought him trophies cannot be sustained in the long run.
It's finally the beginning of the end.Rafa will never be the same again,the most to benefit would be Murray & Djokovic as fed is an old man now. In short federer himself suffered the brunt of nadal's prime.
Nadal will start to decline rapidly now because he doesn't have a serve to rely on in the long run.But its not any-body's fault in the atp.Grinders have a long history of burning out early in their careers.He is no different regardless of wishful thinking by his fans.
Again sorry about nadal.

FiBeR
06-19-2009, 10:49 PM
:spit: priceless wimbledon

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 10:51 PM
I'am truly sorry for nadal & his true fans but pleased abit because of theRAFA,nadalsharapova,start the game ,vida etc.etc.
Nadal didn't suffer a freak accident or something,he brought it upon himself,by his style of play.The same style of play that brought him trophies cannot be sustained in the long run.
It's finally the beginning of the end.Rafa will never be the same again,the most to benefit would be Murray & Djokovic as fed is an old man now. In short federer himself suffered the brunt of nadal's prime.
Nadal will start to decline rapidly now because he doesn't have a serve to rely on in the long run.But its not any-body's fault in the atp.Grinders have a long history of burning out early in their careers.He is no different regardless of wishful thinking by his fans.
Again sorry about nadal.

Well... you know.. Sometimes people's knees a prone to these types of chronic conditions.

I read somewhere Rafa doesn't weight train? Well maybe he should to try to strength some specific muscle groups to help him avoid recurrences.

There are things one can do. Maybe he should work with a track coach on running technique or something?

Xenosys
06-19-2009, 10:51 PM
Disappointing news. The tournament is going to miss him throughout the fortnight. Wouldn't wish ill-health on anyone and hope he makes a full recovery from this, but unfortunately I could see this coming. His game has been writing cheques his body simply cannot continue to keep cashing week in week out. If he wants to continue long into his 20s, he either needs to tailor his game or his schedule, with the latter obviously being easier option of the two.

FiBeR
06-19-2009, 10:53 PM
:p I love it! (not that nadal is out in particular), there is SUCH drama at this wimbledon..

Im sorry for nadal..tough luck for the defending champ and world n1 to not be able to defend the title :tape: but.. hey! The whole seedage has been changed, and it is in fact quite interesting draw for QFs and SFs..

Del Potro has a lot to prove and will probably clash against hewitt and roddick. The winner of that match will probably face Murray.. This should be the Murray Slam unless either Del Potro/Roddick or Federer beats him..it is actually an interesting slam to follow..

What's funny with nadal is that.. last year Wimbledon gave him the n1 in the world and took federer's n1 away to n2. Roger has the chance in his hands to become n1 again if he manages to conquer wimbledon back!..

Sunset of Age
06-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Agree with every word.

+1.

Linda started a thread about a week back or so with a quote where Roger gave his thoughts on Nadal's injury, stating he believed Rafa to be at Wimbledon and ready to play.

Perhaps he just HOPED so? Nice twisting of words again. :rolleyes:

Dini
06-19-2009, 10:59 PM
I think Fed's comments were said in a "don't worry he'll be fine" kind of way so as to stop people from worrying rather than "I'm the best- I know everything" kind of way.

Maybe I'm biased. But what the hell.

Clay Death
06-19-2009, 11:00 PM
Agree with every word.


affirmative.

duong
06-19-2009, 11:02 PM
Linda started a thread about a week back or so with a quote where Roger gave his thoughts on Nadal's injury, stating he believed Rafa to be at Wimbledon and ready to play.

Ah thanks I understand better :D

but I don't think that Federer should be blamed because seome forumers over-interpreted his thoughts :lol:

What he said was just quite simple, like what Roddick said actually.

One could have rather seen it as en encouragement actually :shrug:

but I know MTFers and their over-interpretations :rolleyes:

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 11:02 PM
I think Fed's comments were said in a "don't worry he'll be fine" kind of way so as to stop people from worrying rather than "I'm the best- I know everything" kind of way.

Maybe I'm biased. But what the hell.

For goodness sakes, we were just KIDDING!

Or I was. We were just having some fun with Roger.

duong
06-19-2009, 11:02 PM
I think Fed's comments were said in a "don't worry he'll be fine" kind of way so as to stop people from worrying rather than "I'm the best- I know everything" kind of way.

Maybe I'm biased. But what the hell.


of course yes but you know on MTF :rolleyes:

Dini
06-19-2009, 11:04 PM
For goodness sakes, we were just KIDDING!

Or I was. We were just having some fun with Roger.

You always are. :lol: :rolls:

I was just saying. :shrug: Some people seem to think that Fed was just being an arrogant smug for giving his opinion on it when maybe he didn't mean it that way.

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 11:04 PM
of course yes but you know on MTF :rolleyes:

Why do you all take everything so seriously?

Do you really think we intended it to be "serious"?

We even said Rafa could cure cancer, for crying outloud!

Geez.

star
06-19-2009, 11:05 PM
I think Fed's comments were said in a "don't worry he'll be fine" kind of way so as to stop people from worrying rather than "I'm the best- I know everything" kind of way.

Maybe I'm biased. But what the hell.

Who knows what Fed knows? After all he said he knew that Rafa wasn't in pain from the way he was playing. :rocker2:

andylovesaustin
06-19-2009, 11:06 PM
You always are. :lol: :rolls:

I was just saying. :shrug: Some people seem to think that Fed was just being an arrogant smug for giving his opinion on it when maybe he didn't mean it that way.

Yeah.. I like to have fun, but I can be serious, too.

It's just not all that serious, sometimes--particularly with a thread like that. We went wild in there. It was out of control!

duong
06-19-2009, 11:12 PM
I have a little bit interpretation about what's happened.

Of course Nadal is injured, no doubt,

but I think there's more context in his decision.

I think there has been a conflict between Toni and Rafa for a while, Toni wanting him to play less to have a longer carreer and have less physical problems.

Hence what Toni has always said in the press.

Hence the fact that he insisted for instance that he shouldn't have played in Madrid.

And I think there has been a moment of loss of courage and hope in Rafa after Roland-Garros.

Then instead of encouraging him to play, the uncle wanted to take benefit from that moment for Rafa to fully realize what he had to do.

He knows that for Rafa, missing Wimbledon is a very cruel loss.

But he thinks that if he does this sacrifice now, then he will have understood dor the rest of his carreer.

That's why I think Toni didn't encourage his nephew at all, and even maybe "encouraged" him to withdraw.

Anyway he must have thought that Rafa would'nt have gone far in the tournament. Then it's not such an awful loss to withdraw.

But he will win something if he fully understands now.

That's what I think. I mean he's really injured but he's already played with a lot of pain in the past. But this time he decided not.

I think there's a combination of Rafa's little loss of courage and optimism, and Toni's will to give a "lesson" or "experience" to his nephew.

I'm not optimistic for the end of the year on hardcourts but I'm optimistic for him in the next years :D