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Simon Reed at it again: " Murray favourite for Wimbledon crown "

EnriqueIG8
06-16-2009, 04:16 PM
After predicting Murray's win at the Australian Open and saying Verdasco is the future Britain's best comedian Simon Reed is at it again.
Most notable points:

* Favours Murray to win the final against Federer
* Kohlschreiber or Safin more likely to defeat Murray than Nadal/Federer








Wimbledon - Reed: A tale of two players
Eurosport - Tue, 16 Jun 11:05:00 2009

Eurosport commentator Simon Reed reflects on the contrasting fortunes of Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic one week before Wimbledon.



It was a very interesting start to the grass court season with Andy Murray winning the title at Queen's and Novak Djokovic losing to Tommy Haas in Halle.

I'm not sure what is going on with Djokovic at the moment. Obviously I was head down concentrating on Murray at Queen's so I didn't see the match with Haas.

Recently I had the feeling that Djokovic was finally starting to click after a poor start to the season. He had some very impressive performances in the Masters Series but then came his poor performance at the French Open and now he has gone and lost to Haas.

I think he has the game for grass and I could see him getting to the semi-finals, but I'm not sure he can do any more than that.

In contrast, there was a real sense of occasion in watching Murray at Queen's.

He has lifted his game a division above from where he was, even at the start of this year, and is now certainly way beyond his level at Wimbledon last year.

There is a lot of buzz around him right now and it is difficult not to get caught up in all the excitement.

I do think that he has the game to win Wimbledon and in many ways I see him now as the favourite for the event.

The package is just all there. From a grass court perspective I think the key ingredient to his game is the improvement in his serve. His serve looks so much better than it did last year, and mentally he seems much more in tune with things.

The way he immediately took control of matches at Queen's was something I have never seen from him before.

Previously he seemed to go into his matches without any pre-conceived ideas. This meant he often started slowly and had to suss out things on the court to find a way to win.

At Queen's he was more aggressive, started positively, knew exactly what he wanted to do, dictated more and did not run into any problems at any stage of any match.

To be fair, he didn't play anyone who is going to win Wimbledon - he had a pretty easy path - but his mindset was still mightily impressive.

The final was a perfect example. Blake is a player we thought might be a threat, but Murray knew exactly what he wanted to do and just went out and did it. :rolleyes: (Blake are you serious?)

Another key moment at Queen's was how he dealt with the on-court interview with Sue Barker after the final. When it began I thought to myself this could be one of the moments that defies his approach to Wimbledon.

I thought he was realistic, not unduly modest, but he really played down the significance of the win. I was as impressed with the way he conducted himself afterwards as I was with his play.

He's a genuine guy with his feet firmly on the ground and I don't think external pressures will get to him at all. In fact, I can see him relishing the pressure and using it as a positive.

I think the only danger is that he might put too much pressure on himself because Wimbledon has now become such an important event in his season.

He has to make sure this doesn't become a factor in the early rounds. I believe if he gets to the final and meets someone like Federer or Nadal then he can beat them.

What I'm more worried about is if he comes up against an inspired player in a third or fourth-round match.

If someone like Philipp Kohlschreiber or even Marat Safin, for example, is playing exceptionally well and if Andy's game is not where he wants, then there is a danger he might get frustrated with himself.

The inner pressure he puts on himself, nothing to do with anything external, might be the one thing to get him into trouble.

However, if he gets to the semi-final or final, I think he can ride that wave of pressure and hype and really make it work for him. You could see he loved it on Sunday at Queen's when the crowd were roaring him on and expecting him to win. I think that again could make the difference at Wimbledon.

Going back to Djokovic just for the moment, I wouldn't put him in the top division with Federer, Nadal and Murray for Wimbledon.

I would put in the group just below that with the likes of Fernando Verdasco, Juan Martin Del Potro, Andy Roddick and possibly Safin - if he turns up - or Robin Soderling, if he can repeat his French Open form.

Looking at the 'big two', well Nadal's fitness makes him somewhat of an unknown quantity. I suspect he is not quite right. His play was strange at Roland Garros. Yes he was beaten by an inspired Soderling, but he hadn't been playing his best even up to that match.

If you had to nail me to the floor I would say that Wimbledon is between Federer and Murray.

I think the win at Roland Garros helps Federer's chances. In the past couple of years I feel he has been putting too much pressure on himself to win the French and equal Pete Sampras's Grand Slam record.

But now that he has done that I think there is a huge weight off his shoulders.

If he hadn't won the French I would have felt that a handful of players could have beaten him at Wimbledon. But I've changed my tune and feel that on current form Murray is the only player who can stop him.

It would be great to see them contest the final and if they did, as I said before, I'd fractionally favour Murray.

I say that because he has such a good record against Federer, because they are playing in the UK and because Murray is playing so well at the moment - while Federer hasn't had a grass court build-up.

We are still only talking in fractions though - for me it would be a 55 to 45 per cent match in Murray's favour.



Simon Reed / Eurosport

Sunset of Age
06-16-2009, 04:19 PM
:haha:

Poor Murray. This kind of renders him chanceless at Wimbly. :sad:

Frooty_Bazooty
06-16-2009, 04:22 PM
wait a sec, didnt one of the eurosport guys predict Soderling's excellent FO? which one was that?

kaylee
06-16-2009, 04:22 PM
oh dear now the punters start - grrrrr.

EnriqueIG8
06-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Simon Reed must be the biggest jinxer in sports history.

+ Predicted Murray to win Australian Open 2009 -> went out in 4th round
+ Predicted Verdasco was the future, and would become #1 -> went out in 4th round Roland Garros
+ Predicted Nadal to crush everyone at Roland Garros 2009 -> went out in 4th round

EnriqueIG8
06-16-2009, 04:26 PM
I can't believe this guy gets paid for talking this crap. Come on, is Reed an analyst or Murray's biggest fanboy? Wonder what would happen if Britain's top guy isn't ranked in the top 5...who would he put as favourite then?
If Britain's top ranked guy wasn't ranked 3th in the world but for example #200 in the world Reed would still point him as the favourite.

kaylee
06-16-2009, 04:32 PM
hahahaha probably!

twisturhead
06-16-2009, 04:32 PM
one of these days he can say I TOLD YOU SO

Sunset of Age
06-16-2009, 04:43 PM
one of these days he can say I TOLD YOU SO

Just like this heap of crap
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/6719595/2/istockphoto_6719595-small-parts-of-broken-clock.jpg
probably indicates the right time twice a day as well. :D

bokehlicious
06-16-2009, 04:45 PM
Reed is just another hater... Do we need new threads for every bold prediction from haters? :yawn:

scoobs
06-16-2009, 04:46 PM
well that's the kiss of death right there.

First round loss to Christophe Rochus.

decrepitude
06-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Sigh. Somebody gag this man, please.

Action Jackson
06-16-2009, 04:47 PM
wait a sec, didnt one of the eurosport guys predict Soderling's excellent FO? which one was that?

Wilander.

Sapeod
06-16-2009, 04:49 PM
Who gives a fuck what this guy says. It's not going to effect Murray in any way. Murray is still going to give it his best in each match and win.

Horatio Caine
06-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Sigh. Somebody gag this man, please.

Sadly we only have one gag spare, and that is going around Andrew Castle's mouth. :tape:

Frooty_Bazooty
06-16-2009, 05:06 PM
wait a sec, didnt one of the eurosport guys predict Soderling's excellent FO? which one was that?

it was Simon Reed
-http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23052009/58/french-open-reed-federer-luck-draw.html

Rafael Nadal also has a couple of banana skins in front of him. He likely won't even break a sweat in his opening matches, but in the fourth round he's likely to face either Robin Soderling or David Ferrer - and if it's Soderling it could be tough. Yes, when they played a few weeks ago in Rome Nadal won in stunning style - but Soderling has been in superb form at the World Team Cup in Dusseldorf this week, and would be my dark horse tip for an outsider who might spring a surprise.

As far as I know, he was one of the VERY few people who predicted Soderling doing well BEFORE the tournament started.

zeleni
06-16-2009, 05:08 PM
Murray will win Wimbledon this year! And I shall bump this thread in 2-3 weeks. :)

You have been warned and now you may continue...

ballbasher101
06-16-2009, 05:21 PM
Simon Reed is becoming a bit of a joke just like Andrew Castle :o. Murray has never won a major and yet he considers him the favorite :confused:. I like Muzza but enough with the hype.

miura
06-16-2009, 05:27 PM
Time to bring out the Reed-Murray bandwagon I made some time ago.

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/miura_2009/reed1.jpg

EDIT: Meh, can't be bothered to change it.


PARIS. LONDON

GayBury
06-16-2009, 05:30 PM
Not, HaasGOAT will stop him.

optimism
06-16-2009, 05:33 PM
Murray will win Wimbledon this year! And I shall bump this thread in 2-3 weeks. :)

You have been warned and now you may continue...

I am sure this will be bumped in less than 3weeks, not the way you would expect though ;)

Goldenoldie
06-16-2009, 05:36 PM
Perhaps there should be a new thread, Reed v Castle, who is the biggest plonker? I don't care, I'll be watching Sue Barker

Burrow
06-16-2009, 05:46 PM
sue barker? and she talks sense?

Goldenoldie
06-16-2009, 05:52 PM
sue barker? and she talks sense?

I didn't say I would be listening to her, I said I would be watching her!

Sheepy
06-16-2009, 05:59 PM
Sadly we only have one gag spare, and that is going around Andrew Castle's mouth. :tape:

Can we not just drop the whole bloody lot of them in a pit somewhere for the next few weeks? There has to be a disused quarry somewhere that would do...

Vida
06-16-2009, 07:11 PM
andy has a really good attitude. low key, kinda objective about his chances, but not exactly downplaying. as if he is managing his confidence and sending a message, but not entirely relying on the communication.

thing is, he just doesnt play well enough to stop full flight fed on grass. doesnt move as well as rafa, doesnt have the weapon to pin down fed in his BH corner, nor has he the experience to sustain the level for a best of 5. just would not be enough.

personally, I wouldnt mind him winning it at all. despite the expected press-frenzy, it would be a really nice picture to see someone fight through the enormous expectations.

decrepitude
06-16-2009, 08:51 PM
Sadly we only have one gag spare, and that is going around Andrew Castle's mouth. :tape:

Good - but hang on a mo and I'll make some more. . .

Clydey
06-16-2009, 10:59 PM
For fuck sake, Reed. How has this guy not realised what a **** he is? He gets nothing right.

Murray has no chance.

NinaNina19
06-16-2009, 11:02 PM
Clydey and I will post noodz if Murray wins. He has no chance.

Clydey
06-16-2009, 11:05 PM
Clydey and I will post noodz if Murray wins. He has no chance.

The force is strong in Simon Reed. We need an ultra jinx or all hope is lost.

Fucksake.

Burrow
06-16-2009, 11:07 PM
noodz = noodles?

rubbERR
06-16-2009, 11:08 PM
Murray just have no potential to win Grandslams, hype is OK but Murray talent is just not enought.

buddyholly
06-16-2009, 11:09 PM
Murray has no chance.

Probably the stupidest post of all time.

Clydey
06-16-2009, 11:11 PM
Probably the stupidest post of all time.

No, that award goes to you. I was joking.

You would have to be pretty thick to think that I, of all people, was giving Murray no chance at Wimbledon. I take no pleasure in your idiocy, what with you being a fellow atheist.

finishingmove
06-16-2009, 11:23 PM
simon reed is just stating the obvious

Corey Feldman
06-16-2009, 11:59 PM
he is the damn fave and he is gonna win it

ppl just needs to accept it

miura
06-17-2009, 12:04 AM
The best thing about Wimbledon 2009 will be to dig up all these posts when Murray goes crashing out

:wavey:

Sapeod
06-17-2009, 12:05 AM
The best thing about Wimbledon 2009 will be to dig up all these posts when Murray goes crashing out

:wavey:
It's a good job that's not happening then :D Phew :)

miura
06-17-2009, 12:07 AM
It's a good job that's not happening then :D Phew :)
Haha Dani we'll see about that ;)

q.j.
06-17-2009, 12:11 AM
The best thing about Wimbledon 2009 will be to dig up all these posts when Murray goes crashing out

:wavey:

:worship:

but it's gonna be tough, so many of them, so many....:D

Sapeod
06-17-2009, 12:12 AM
Haha Dani we'll see about that ;)
Murray-Federer final ;) Good viewing :D

Corey Feldman
06-17-2009, 12:15 AM
:worship:

but it's gonna be tough, so many of them, so many....:Dthey'll get bumped alright

by me with 'told you so' posts
;)

q.j.
06-17-2009, 12:15 AM
they'll get bumped alright

by me with 'told you so' posts
;)


Mickey, of all people you should know better ;)

Corey Feldman
06-17-2009, 12:16 AM
Mickey, of all people you should know better ;)
No use fighting it.. if all of Britain are doing this to him for next 3 weeks i'm joining in!

JediFed
06-17-2009, 02:08 AM
Roddick > Murray.

leng jai
06-17-2009, 02:12 AM
Is Simon Reed Fedmug's double account?

jmf07
06-17-2009, 07:12 AM
This guy is just a reflection of half the eurosport writers.

zlaja777
06-17-2009, 11:58 AM
Sad, every time that British mark Murray as a strong fav he loses before QF. The pressure is mounting...

marcRD
07-04-2009, 08:58 PM
No bump yet ?

BUMP. Simon Reed is obviously an idiot and he cant use the senile excuse Collins could use.

ballbasher101
07-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Everyone knows that Simon Reed is a bit of an idiot really along with his friend Andrew Castle.

FedFan_2007
07-04-2009, 09:33 PM
Simon Reed and Andrew Castle are made of FAIL.

NADALbULLS
06-20-2010, 11:21 AM
What's Simon Reed saying this year?

born_on_clay
06-20-2010, 11:26 AM
Who gives a fuck what this guy says. It's not going to effect Murray in any way. Murray is still going to give it his best in each match and win.

so not true
Murray feels so much pressure from the fans that he can't handle it :(

NADALbULLS
06-20-2010, 11:30 AM
If there's one place I want Nadal to play Murray it's Wimbledon. Why? Because Murray plays passive at crucial times at Wimbledon because of the pressure on him to win. When Murray plays passive vs Nadal he's toast!

JolánGagó
06-20-2010, 11:46 AM
As if we didn't have enough crap already on GM frontpage :rolleyes:

ossie
06-20-2010, 11:47 AM
he would have to beat fedal so i dont see him winning this year either

decrepitude
06-20-2010, 12:28 PM
What's Simon Reed saying this year?

Don't know, don't care, except I hope he is not predicting Andy again as that would be a sure-fire jinx. Not that I'm expecting Andy to win anyway, I'll be absolutely delighted if he gets as far as semis again, considering how he has been playing lately!

Roamed
06-20-2010, 12:46 PM
This year I think Reed is predicting big things (not necessarily winning) for 'big American servers.' Bye Roddick/Isner/Querrey.

Murray is also 'still possible.'

pica_pica
06-20-2010, 01:08 PM
:secret: At least this prediction is better than saying England is favourite for World Cup :tape:

Matt01
06-20-2010, 02:31 PM
Thank god this thread is from last year :lol:

angry1
06-20-2010, 03:16 PM
Sad, every time that British mark Murray as a strong fav he loses before QF. The pressure is mounting...

Didn't notice the date.

born_on_clay
06-20-2010, 10:19 PM
Roddick > Murray.

on gras +1000000000000

Ububub
06-20-2010, 10:34 PM
Thank god this thread is from last year :lol:

Of course this thread is from last year, you don't think they would allow a current thread on this board, do you really?!!!

Persimmon
06-21-2010, 03:47 AM
Murray to reach the Wimbledon final.

kooties
06-22-2010, 06:32 PM
FFS Murray, win the USO already!

Don't like the guy, but he's just too talented to end up as another Mecir.

tektonac
06-22-2010, 10:42 PM
murray bows out to sam queery ;)

ORGASMATRON
06-22-2010, 10:46 PM
murray cant win wimby this year. he's form has been too shite since the GOAT spanked him down under. reed has to wait some more.

Dimitra
06-22-2010, 10:54 PM
soo.. Reed didn't make this prediction again this year??:awww:
so sad..I was kinda looking forward to his jinxing :lol: :p

Persimmon
06-22-2010, 11:42 PM
Nah. Federer is the favorite. Hint *6 Wimbledons* so far.

christallh24
06-23-2010, 04:01 AM
Nah. Federer is the favorite. Hint *6 Wimbledons* so far.

:lol: Now there's going out on a limb!

ossie
07-03-2010, 02:31 PM
they'll get bumped alright

by me with 'told you so' posts
;)another prey to simon 'the Master of Jinx' reed

Chiakifug
07-03-2010, 03:11 PM
He said this year before Murray played Nadal that Murray in the first set of their match in Melbourne was some of the best tennis hes ever seen anyone play.

bounccer
07-14-2013, 10:28 AM
Bodo was right four years before everyone else :worship:

duarte_a
07-14-2013, 10:34 AM
Simon Reed's curses now have an established 4 year duration. Who knows, maybe last year Murray was still affected by it. Powerful stuff.

BroTree123
07-14-2013, 10:39 AM
As we all know by now, Reed's predictions have a delayed effect.

syc23
07-14-2013, 04:32 PM
Reed got it right all along and all you Murray haters can suck it.

2 slams and counting.

FiBeR
07-14-2013, 10:52 PM
I wonder why are these Murraytards with british/english flag so eager to "prove" Murray is this or that...

Imagine if all Fedfans, Rafafans and Nolefans will use such a huge font and colourful signature every time their idols do something... I mean, we all know who wins what. No need to look desperate about it

It kinds of makes me laugh... Pretty pathetic to be so desperate to prove something about your national representative player (because I am sure a big slack of those Murrayfans are only supporting Andy because of the flag and not of the tennis.. they might have grown into his game, but honestly.. I would say Murray is one of the least favourites among non-british posters in the forum)

Just don't make it so obvious guys... and Andy has nothing to prove to other MTF posters, so neither do you

PS: In a nutshell before someone gets it wrong: I respect Murray. Not his fans

Moozza
07-14-2013, 11:06 PM
Everyone who wasn't a deluded hater believed Murray would win Wimbledon one day. He is far too good on grass not to win the most prestigious title and I don't see him stopping at one title.

hipolymer
07-14-2013, 11:23 PM
I wonder why are these Murraytards with british/english flag so eager to "prove" Murray is this or that...

Imagine if all Fedfans, Rafafans and Nolefans will use such a huge font and colourful signature every time their idols do something... I mean, we all know who wins what. No need to look desperate about it

It kinds of makes me laugh... Pretty pathetic to be so desperate to prove something about your national representative player (because I am sure a big slack of those Murrayfans are only supporting Andy because of the flag and not of the tennis.. they might have grown into his game, but honestly.. I would say Murray is one of the least favourites among non-british posters in the forum)

Just don't make it so obvious guys... and Andy has nothing to prove to other MTF posters, so neither do you

PS: In a nutshell before someone gets it wrong: I respect Murray. Not his fans


I agree with everything you said, except for the part about respecting Murray. Murray swears and grimaces at any point in the game, disrespecting this beautiful sport. And I wouldn't be surprised if all these Murray fans are all the same person. Just look at the above two users' signatures and note the similarities.

delboy
07-14-2013, 11:24 PM
I wonder why are these Murraytards with british/english flag so eager to "prove" Murray is this or that...

Imagine if all Fedfans, Rafafans and Nolefans will use such a huge font and colourful signature every time their idols do something... I mean, we all know who wins what. No need to look desperate about it

It kinds of makes me laugh... Pretty pathetic to be so desperate to prove something about your national representative player (because I am sure a big slack of those Murrayfans are only supporting Andy because of the flag and not of the tennis.. they might have grown into his game, but honestly.. I would say Murray is one of the least favourites among non-british posters in the forum)

Just don't make it so obvious guys... and Andy has nothing to prove to other MTF posters, so neither do you

PS: In a nutshell before someone gets it wrong: I respect Murray. Not his fans

you think? :facepalm: he is more hated than even Dull, at least people on this forum acknowledge he is more talented...He is loved in America I believe (probably moreso than in England) but I think posters unite behind him more on forums because he isn't liked that much.

Tiebreak100
07-14-2013, 11:31 PM
I agree with everything you said, except for the part about respecting Murray. Murray swears and grimaces at any point in the game, disrespecting this beautiful sport. And I wouldn't be surprised if all these Murray fans are all the same person. Just look at the above two users' signatures and note the similarities.

What were your thoughts when the Gymnast abused the crowd in Madrid?

What do you think when the Gymnast rips off his shirt after certain wins? Is he disrespecting his opponent?

What did you think when Djokovic won Madrid a few years back and was jumping on cars with Shrek?

Has Murray done anything that compares to the above? If yes, I want relevant examples.

decrepitude
07-14-2013, 11:42 PM
I agree with everything you said, except for the part about respecting Murray. Murray swears and grimaces at any point in the game, disrespecting this beautiful sport. And I wouldn't be surprised if all these Murray fans are all the same person. Just look at the above two users' signatures and note the similarities.

No, we're definitely not all the same person. I've been supporting him since at least 2005 - watching his results since 2004 and outright supporting him ever since I saw him play at Queens 2005. I'm just too old and wise to join in all the tard wars ;)