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Betting Site: Murray Ahead of Nadal as Fav to Win Wimbledon!!

The Oracle
06-14-2009, 06:48 AM
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/e/905/Gentlemen%2527s%2BWimbledon%2BSingles.html
Winner (Top) (http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/e/905/Gentlemen%2527s%2BWimbledon%2BSingles.html#)

Selection Price
Roger Federer 11/10 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Andy Murray 5/2 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Rafael Nadal 3/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Novak Djokovic 7/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 12/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Andy Roddick 20/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Juan Martin del Potro 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Fernando Verdasco 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Robin Soderling 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)

Goldenoldie
06-14-2009, 07:10 AM
The bookies must be taking Nadal's possible unfitness into account. Murray's odds are far too short. I would love to see him win, but I won't be putting any money on it.

Clydey
06-14-2009, 09:45 AM
They are obviously factoring in Nadal's lack of fitness. Not even the most biased British bookie would put Murray ahead of a fully fit defending champion.

born_on_clay
06-14-2009, 10:39 AM
Cool
The pressure if off :)

rafa the best
06-14-2009, 11:07 AM
Excellent, I'm sure Murray will win it, who else could, no?:wavey::angel:

Burrow
06-14-2009, 12:32 PM
Cool
The pressure if off :)

it's not as simple as that

"oh wow the bookies have me less than murray" "phew, now i can rest and not have anyyy pressure of a defending champion in arguably the biggest tournament in the world"

how old are you? 9?

Julio
06-14-2009, 12:37 PM
Excellent, I'm sure Murray will win it, who else could, no?:wavey::angel:

Federer, for example. :lol:

SaFed2005
06-14-2009, 12:42 PM
I am actually more surprised that he is not ahead of Federer too.

theprodigy
06-14-2009, 12:44 PM
Cool
The pressure if off :)

yeah, nadal can't handle the pressure. he called federer rg favorite the other year for example :lol:

bizzle
06-14-2009, 12:59 PM
and this is suprising because?....

Iván
06-14-2009, 01:09 PM
i dont think he can bt nadal or fed on grass over 5 sets, we shall see.

Wolbo
06-14-2009, 02:47 PM
i dont think he can bt nadal or fed on grass over 5 sets, we shall see.I actually think he can. He's a much improved player and certainly has what it takes to win Wimbledon. He's a No. 1 in the waiting and that might happen sooner than most think. There is still the risk of a typical Murray off-day but those happen less and less. If Nadal is fit there is very little to chose between Federer, Nadal and Murray.

doublebackhand
06-14-2009, 02:50 PM
I actually think he can. He's a much improved player and certainly has what it takes to win Wimbledon. He's a No. 1 in the waiting and that might happen sooner than most think. There is still the risk of a typical Murray off-day but those happen less and less. If Nadal is fit there is very little to chose between Federer, Nadal and Murray.


that will be the saddest day in tennis history if it actually happens, but i highly highly doubt it will.

Steelq
06-14-2009, 03:05 PM
and this is suprising because?....

1.He sucks at slams.
2.His best result at Wimbledon so far is a QF.
3.Nadal,defending champion, will be there.
4.Only once played in slam semi final so far,equal to Soderling,Tsonga or Del Potro.
5.Need more?

doublebackhand
06-14-2009, 03:08 PM
1.He sucks at slams.
2.His best result at Wimbledon so far is a QF.
3.Nadal,defending champion, will be there.
4.Only once played in slam semi final so far,equal to Soderling,Tsonga or Del Potro.
5.Need more?

he played in the USO final last year but i agreed with what u said. his record in slams have been pathetic given he is #3.

and with the british media, bookmakers, punters, tennis fans and housewives all hyping it up in the next 2-3 weeks, he again will crumble spectacularly in front of the home crowd. no doubt about it. he is another henman or mauresmo imo.

angry1
06-14-2009, 03:22 PM
he played in the USO final last year but i agreed with what u said. his record in slams have been pathetic given he is #3.

and with the british media, bookmakers, punters, tennis fans and housewives all hyping it up in the next 2-3 weeks, he again will crumble spectacularly in front of the home crowd. no doubt about it. he is another henman or mauresmo imo.

How did Henman crumble at home?4 semis there and 2 at the rest combined says the reverse to me.

When has Murray's result at Wimbledon been worse than pre tournament bookie's expectations,though?

He's only played there 3 times,2 round expectation over-achievements and 1 par.His performances in defeat to Baggy and Nadal were lousy but he wasn't expected to beat Roddick or Nadal respectively in those tournaments.Winning Queen's without even needing a tie break was as good an optional tournament as he's had and that's on home soil too.

Sapeod
06-14-2009, 03:26 PM
he played in the USO final last year but i agreed with what u said. his record in slams have been pathetic given he is #3.

and with the british media, bookmakers, punters, tennis fans and housewives all hyping it up in the next 2-3 weeks, he again will crumble spectacularly in front of the home crowd. no doubt about it. he is another henman or mauresmo imo.
Nah. He won't crumble. He will win it. For some strange reason I can only see Federer challenging him. Probably because the Pig in injured.

finishingmove
06-14-2009, 03:26 PM
http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/1alig_dapics_3.jpg

keepin' it real

rubbERR
06-14-2009, 03:28 PM
How did Henman crumble at home?4 semis there and 2 at the rest combined says the reverse to me.

When has Murray's result at Wimbledon been worse than pre tournament bookie's expectations,though?

He's only played there 3 times,2 round expectation over-achievements and 1 par.His performances in defeat to Baggy and Nadal were lousy but he wasn't expected to beat Roddick or Nadal respectively in those tournaments.Winning Queen's without even needing a tie break was as good an optional tournament as he's had and that's on home soil too.

Nadal outplayed Murray last year quarterfinals Wimbledon, he was too good.

doublebackhand
06-14-2009, 03:30 PM
How did Henman crumble at home?4 semis there and 2 at the rest combined says the reverse to me.

When has Murray's result at Wimbledon been worse than pre tournament bookie's expectations,though?

He's only played there 3 times,2 round expectation over-achievements and 1 par.His performances in defeat to Baggy and Nadal were lousy but he wasn't expected to beat Roddick or Nadal respectively in those tournaments.Winning Queen's without even needing a tie break was as good an optional tournament as he's had and that's on home soil too.

if 4 semis showing is what u is good enough then it will be what u get for murray in the years to come. of course i am not dragging in his prior performances in W as he hasnt developed and there was no expectations. i am talking from now on. lets see if i am on the mark.

scoobs
06-14-2009, 03:30 PM
Ridiculous that Murray should have shorter odds than the defending champion.

rofe
06-14-2009, 03:30 PM
Murray could actually win it. He played himself into really good form at Queens.

Sapeod
06-14-2009, 03:30 PM
Nadal outplayed Murray last year quarterfinals Wimbledon, he was too good.
To be honest you're right. It took a lot out of Murray to beat Gasquet and Nadal was too good for him.

doublebackhand
06-14-2009, 03:31 PM
Nah. He won't crumble. He will win it. For some strange reason I can only see Federer challenging him. Probably because the Pig in injured.

wow, now its federer challenging murray at W??! wtfru on?

angry1
06-14-2009, 03:50 PM
Nadal outplayed Murray last year quarterfinals Wimbledon, he was too good.

I agree that his best wouldn't have got him close last year.A fit Nadal would be unlikely to lose to him this year as well.I still think Murray's performance in a hopeless task was poor.

R.Federer
06-14-2009, 04:19 PM
Not even the most biased British bookie would put Murray ahead of a fully fit defending champion.

Hard to know, though, because they gave him pretty okay odds last year as well.

2008 Men’s Wimbledon Odds
Roger Federer -110
Rafael Nadal +200
Novak Djokovic +300
Andrew Murray +1600
Andy Roddick +1800
David Nalbandian +2800
Lleyton Hewitt +5000

The Oracle
06-14-2009, 05:02 PM
Another win at a grass tournament this week:worship::worship:....

Now on a winning streak going into Wimbledon.....who is calling the shots now!!

GlennMirnyi
06-14-2009, 05:05 PM
2.5 to win Wimbledon?

Overreaction much? He just won a title beating mostly clowns.

rubbERR
06-14-2009, 05:07 PM
typical overreaction... :/

MacTheKnife
06-14-2009, 05:09 PM
Ridiculous that Murray should have shorter odds than the defending champion.

Got to be the injury situation.

McAlistar
06-14-2009, 05:12 PM
Nadal outplayed Murray last year quarterfinals Wimbledon, he was too good.


Yea last year.. when Murray had only 5 titles and no good grand slam results, he now has 12 titles,3 masters and a GS final. It will be really tough though, i dont see him doing it but i would love to be proved wrong. He deserves a GS.

The Oracle
06-14-2009, 05:16 PM
2.5 to win Wimbledon?

Overreaction much? He just won a title beating mostly clowns.
This would be pre-Queens Club........funny..........I dont recall people calling Nadal beating clowns when he won this tournament last year..........

Of course we know what happen few weeks from then on the centre court of Wimbledon.

scoobs
06-14-2009, 05:22 PM
Got to be the injury situation.
even so - 2 weeks of rest and Nadal's knees might be fine and he might blitz through the draw.

Still ridiculous. If I were a betting man I'd put some money on Nadal with those odds.

GlennMirnyi
06-14-2009, 05:23 PM
This would be pre-Queens Club........funny..........I dont recall people calling Nadal beating clowns when he won this tournament last year..........

Of course we know what happen few weeks from then on the centre court of Wimbledon.

You weren't here then.

Of course Nadull only won last year because he got a draw full of clowns.

Corey Feldman
06-14-2009, 05:27 PM
dont blame Muzza or books ffs, blame Nadal and his camp for their usual over blowing of his fitness situations

The Oracle
06-14-2009, 05:30 PM
You weren't here then.

Of course Nadull only won last year because he got a draw full of clowns.
lol........
2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Queen%27s_Club_Championships_-_Singles) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/22px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) Rafael Nadal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Nadal) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Flag_of_Serbia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Serbia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia) Novak Djokovic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novak_Djokovic) 7-6 (8-6), 7-5Djokovic and Nadal in 2008 both came into this tournament with a single slam in 2008.

We all know Queens Club is the strongest tournament by far of any other non-slam grass tournament. Federer was invincible pre-Wimbledon 2008 on grass anyways.

The Oracle
06-14-2009, 06:33 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jEGsEAHIA70qZ0-iRjNGKbRk288w
"Because I went out early there last year and because I didn't play at my top-level here, I would definitely not rate myself as a favourite for the title in London," said former Australian Open champion Djokovic.

By the way people.........the odds have not changed since Murray won Queens Club, in case anyone is wondering.....

Nadal will still travel to London..........but has indicated if he is not 100% he will pull out.

MalwareDie
06-14-2009, 06:49 PM
lol........
2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Queen%27s_Club_Championships_-_Singles) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/22px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) Rafael Nadal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Nadal) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Flag_of_Serbia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Serbia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia) Novak Djokovic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novak_Djokovic) 7-6 (8-6), 7-5Djokovic and Nadal in 2008 both came into this tournament with a single slam in 2008.

We all know Queens Club is the strongest tournament by far of any other non-slam grass tournament. Federer was invincible pre-Wimbledon 2008 on grass anyways.


Djokovic is a bigger grass clown than Mugboar. Mugboar had a draw full of clowns and mugs.

Deejay
06-14-2009, 07:41 PM
I think the bookies have got it just about right with the odds. Rafa is the sort of player that likes to play a lot of matches before the big tournaments - he obviously feels most comfortable doing this given his results over the past few years playing a hectic schedule. But at this years Wimbledon he'll go into it under-cooked and with injury and poor form on top of that the likely-hood of him winning Wimbledon goes way way down.

As far as i'm concerned Federer is the clear favourite to win Wimbledon and the only player I can see stopping him is Murray. Djokovic isn't in the running and i'd be surprised if he even made the semis (he admitted this earlier after his loss to Haas).

Getting to the semis is the bare minimum for Murray, anything less is a poor showing.

The Oracle
06-15-2009, 07:57 PM
I think the bookies have got it just about right with the odds. Rafa is the sort of player that likes to play a lot of matches before the big tournaments - he obviously feels most comfortable doing this given his results over the past few years playing a hectic schedule. But at this years Wimbledon he'll go into it under-cooked and with injury and poor form on top of that the likely-hood of him winning Wimbledon goes way way down.

As far as i'm concerned Federer is the clear favourite to win Wimbledon and the only player I can see stopping him is Murray. Djokovic isn't in the running and i'd be surprised if he even made the semis (he admitted this earlier after his loss to Haas).

Getting to the semis is the bare minimum for Murray, anything less is a poor showing.

That is correct.........i mean.......if he cannot defend RG......it's obvious the odds are going to be much much lower come Wimbledon defense.........

I too think the bookmakers have it right.....

Murray and Federer are the fav to win it.

mitalidas
06-15-2009, 08:36 PM
By the way people.........the odds have not changed since Murray won Queens Club, in case anyone is wondering.....


That should be proof enough that bookies are often off by wide margins in oddsmaking; there is sentiment as much as results in these calculations. There are also questions posed to "pundits"-- where said pundits include Gilbert and Rusedski (ie, hit and miss predictions).

Florida
06-15-2009, 11:05 PM
Federer is the clear favorite to win Wimbledon, but Rafa is going to Wimbie and he is going there with one goal on his mind: Defend the title! Murray will have to prove he is a contendor, because everybody realistic and in the right frame of mind and not on Murray's bandwagoon, or part of the Murray hype, will not write Rafa off and act like there are no other players ready to to prove something on the big stage of Wimbledon!

mitalidas
06-16-2009, 06:24 PM
Borg agrees with the order of the odds! Picks Federer and Murray as top two.



We all know how Roger is playing on the grass, he plays unbelievable tennis on the grass. I think he is going to have a big challenge from Andy Murray, if I have to pick up two guys for this year's Wimbledon I would pick Murray and Federer."


Rest of the article:
Borg makes U-turn and backs Federer for Wimbledon title


By Tanja Bojanc
Reuters
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:22 PM

LONDON (Reuters) - A year after Bjorn Borg wrote off Roger Federer's chances of capturing the 2008 Wimbledon title, the Swedish great was once again backing the Swiss to triumph at the All England Club.
Borg tipped Rafael Nadal to win the grasscourt major 12 months ago and despite being proved right, his comments did not go down well with Federer.
But after the Swiss completed his collection of grand slam titles by triumphing at Roland Garros nine days ago, the Swede has once again switched his allegiance.
"Coming into Wimbledon I think he is relieved in a way that he won Paris, because that was one of his main ambitions, goals to try and win Paris," Borg, who shares with Federer the professional era record of winning five successive Wimbledon titles, told Reuters Television Tuesday.
"So coming into Wimbledon he feels very confident, he has equaled (Pete) Sampras's record of 14 grand slams.
"We all know how Roger is playing on the grass, he plays unbelievable tennis on the grass. I think he is going to have a big challenge from Andy Murray, if I have to pick up two guys for this year's Wimbledon I would pick Murray and Federer."
Federer's success in Paris made him only the sixth man to win all four majors. According to Borg, that put Federer on the summit when it came to deciding who was the best of all time.
"For me Roger is the greatest player ever who played the tennis game. It's always good to see him play and win and we are going to see so much more of Federer in the future, he is going to win more grand slam tournaments."
Former Wimbledon champion Martina Navratilova agreed.
"It's a combination of how many grand slams have you won, how many tournaments have you won, how many years you were number one and he's got all those combinations," she said.
"The body of work is phenomenal and now he has got that French Open and I think he can just go on and sip Margaritas for the rest of his life."
NOW STRUGGLING
Navratilova, however, said she was concerned about Nadal.
The Spaniard, four-times French Open champion, lost in the fourth round at Roland Garros and is now struggling to get fit for Wimbledon.
While the rest of the world might have been surprised by Nadal's Paris downfall, Navratilova was not.
"He burned out both physically and mentally, he played too many tournaments in a row and it just got to him, physically and mentally," said the American, who proved her longevity by playing top level tennis until just before her 50th birthday.
"He just didn't look that happy on the court, never mind how he was playing.
"Like he was fired up, but it was like when he was trying to get excited in the match, he was trying to force himself into it, it didn't seem to come with much joy.
"It's when you are burned out a little bit and it doesn't take much and he plays such a physical game that when he is not 100 percent it makes a big difference."
(Writing by Pritha Sarkar; Editing by Ed Osmond)
© 2009 Reuters

Fumus
06-16-2009, 07:19 PM
MTF = Bandwaggon...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/RealityRyan/MTFFAIL.jpg

pica_pica
06-17-2009, 01:29 PM
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/e/905/Gentlemen%2527s%2BWimbledon%2BSingles.html
Winner (Top) (http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/e/905/Gentlemen%2527s%2BWimbledon%2BSingles.html#)

Selection Price
Roger Federer 11/10 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Andy Murray 5/2 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Rafael Nadal 3/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Novak Djokovic 7/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 12/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Andy Roddick 20/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Juan Martin del Potro 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Fernando Verdasco 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
Robin Soderling 25/1 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%28null%29)
IMO the top 4 are quite right if Nadal's injury is taken into concern........
Tsonga as 5th favorite? Sure???! :eek:

philosophicalarf
06-17-2009, 01:45 PM
That should be proof enough that bookies are often off by wide margins in oddsmaking; there is sentiment as much as results in these calculations.


Those are stabilised market odds, not some isolated book's guess.

As with all sports, long-term the market has a better record than just about any pundit.

R.Federer
06-17-2009, 01:48 PM
Those are stabilised market odds, not some isolated book's guess.

As with all sports, long-term the market has a better record than just about any pundit.

than just about any pundit's long term predictions or a pundit on a given day? The "market" is composed of so many smaller parts, that for any given bet it diversifies the weird predictions on one end with the weird predictions on another end. The individual pundit has just one chance per bet. :)

scoobs
06-17-2009, 01:51 PM
This is just a lot of lemmings believing all the hype.

The way I see it, the defending champion is in London, is practising, and looks likely to play, and should be taken seriously.

Commander Data
06-17-2009, 01:51 PM
putting Murray before Nadal is wild.

scoobs
06-17-2009, 01:53 PM
putting Murray before Nadal is wild.
it's mental and irrational.

angry1
06-17-2009, 02:24 PM
it's mental and irrational.

It's not irrational,though is it?

It's based on them,IYO and mine, placing too much faith in the often described as most honest player in tennis' camp implying there is a serious risk of him missing the tournament.

That's not a dig at Rafa,he is one of my favourite players,I obviously don't blame him for the British press'IMO,hagiography-like approach to covering him.

A superstitious fear of backing a non-runner that some punters have is also a factor I believe.

pica_pica
06-17-2009, 02:28 PM
putting Murray before Nadal is wild.
I think the British press and the British betting companies are cooperating to push up the Murray hype......they can divide the money afterwards :haha:

JediFed
06-17-2009, 06:51 PM
I would give Roddick higher odds then Nadal. It depends on where in the draw he falls.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-17-2009, 09:37 PM
Roddicks a good bet

Murray has zero chance

The Oracle
06-18-2009, 06:07 AM
I think the British press and the British betting companies are cooperating to push up the Murray hype......they can divide the money afterwards :haha:
Haha.....well.......that is somewhat true........but you know everyone loves to have their home favourite and how can you possibly blame them for anointing Murray.

Seriously though....Murray does have better odds than Nadal....I am surprised that given the bad knee Nadal is actually being ranked "third", I would rank him 129th, (because he is the mostly likely player to pull out).

Merton
06-18-2009, 11:07 AM
It looks like the market factors in Nadal not at 100%. It was far more crazy before Australian Open, when for the bookies Murray emerged as the title favourite.

Merton
06-18-2009, 11:09 AM
That should be proof enough that bookies are often off by wide margins in oddsmaking; there is sentiment as much as results in these calculations. There are also questions posed to "pundits"-- where said pundits include Gilbert and Rusedski (ie, hit and miss predictions).

The bookies provide public consensus estimates, they cannot diverge too much from the average because they run the risk of going bust.

The Oracle
06-19-2009, 01:13 AM
It looks like the market factors in Nadal not at 100%. It was far more crazy before Australian Open, when for the bookies Murray emerged as the title favourite.
Huh.............I dont know anything about that and I do not think so as well......

Federer had always been the favourite in AO, however, Murray has always played very effectively and had emerged as the finalist in USO..........I do think there is some merits to him being ranked ahead of Nadal.

philosophicalarf
06-19-2009, 01:22 AM
Haha.....well.......that is somewhat true........but you know everyone loves to have their home favourite and how can you possibly blame them for anointing Murray.


It's a global market, all books have more or less the same prices.

The Oracle
06-19-2009, 02:10 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ibDlOHpC31NSDNaLyAkvbcvdTBMQ

LONDON (AFP) — Spain's world number one Rafael Nadal struggled here on Thursday as he lost 6-4, 6-3 to Australian Lleyton Hewitt to cast further doubt on whether he will be able to defend his Wimbledon title.

philosophicalarf
06-19-2009, 02:23 AM
Yup, that one match and Toni's comments after double Nadal's odds on betfair. Now.......

Fed 2.0
Muzz 4.7
Nadal 11.0
Djoko 16.0
ali/delpot/duck 45ish
Soderking/ForehandoV/Haas-been 100ish

Quakes
06-19-2009, 03:17 AM
I think the British press and the British betting companies are cooperating to push up the Murray hype......they can divide the money afterwards :haha:

Very astute my good sir. That's how business is done nowadays. ;)

Quakes
06-19-2009, 03:22 AM
dont blame Muzza or books ffs, blame Nadal and his camp for their usual over blowing of his fitness situations

True but this time it's after an unexpected big loss. Times before were when they complained even though he's winning, so people have reason to believe this time it's for real.

Quakes
06-19-2009, 03:27 AM
That should be proof enough that bookies are often off by wide margins in oddsmaking; there is sentiment as much as results in these calculations. There are also questions posed to "pundits"-- where said pundits include Gilbert and Rusedski (ie, hit and miss predictions).

Isn't it MOSTLY about sentiments? I mean the bookies are trying to predict the sentiments of people, so that they can set up these odds to earn them money NO MATTER WHAT the actual outcome is.

Of course predictions come into play too, but people's attitudes affect these odds tremendously. A lot of British people patriotically betting on Murray for example, could seriously distort the odds. And because he has just won in Queens (for all Brits to see), that's likely what's happening.

Swiss Mountain
06-19-2009, 03:41 AM
Cool
The pressure if off :)

Yes as usual, weak mind, weak player, must cheat on his form to go into a tournament; he was always a pussy, not acknowledging his top position, even in RG, it's always fed the best.

Rafa is the best to pretend injuries after defeat (or being tired), and Roger is the best to pretend himself the favorite: he got balls. learn rafa, you're a man now.Fed won 5 slams at 23, you got 6 at 23!

A_Skywalker
06-19-2009, 04:22 AM
Murray is ahead cause he is healthy. Of course he will be ahead.

The Oracle
06-19-2009, 07:40 AM
http://www.usaonlinecasinos.us/articles/154/1/318/Nadal-Top-Seed-But-Federer-Favorite-in-Wimbledon-Online-Gambling.html

Nadal is ostensibly the world's number one player, but his upset loss at the French Open and continuing knee troubles have made bettors wary. In fact, it is not at all certain Nadal will even be able to play, so sports betting sites are listing the young Spaniard at +350, an astronomical return for such a player if not for the injuries.

In fact, Andrew Murray is actually the second favorite ahead of Nadal, listed at +250. For those looking for big paydays, brave gamblers may risk a play on Andy Roddick to finally curb his emotions and reach his potential at +2500; or throw away some money on Nikolay Davydenko while eyeing a +12500 return.