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Most aesthetically pleasing ?

prima donna
06-11-2009, 03:16 AM
Have fun.

superslam77
06-11-2009, 03:19 AM
I did a thread like this and didn't last long. :worship:

VAMOS

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 03:22 AM
You'll get the answer you want from me on this one.

Roger Federer.

prima donna
06-11-2009, 03:23 AM
Just made a poll, guys. Enjoy.

guga2120
06-11-2009, 03:25 AM
Gustavo Kuerten, especially on clay. It was great to watch him pick Federer, to pieces, at Roland Garros, in 2004.


Women's tennis is really bad, but Justine Henin was always good to watch.

MacTheKnife
06-11-2009, 03:27 AM
I took Federer, but it is very close with at least 3 others (McEnrore and Edberg are right there), had you added effective, would have been a different choice.

superslam77
06-11-2009, 03:27 AM
Federer,Edberg and McEnroe are good to watch.

The rest...ok well i have never seen Rosewall..

GlennMirnyi
06-11-2009, 03:29 AM
Edberg, always.

Guga_fan
06-11-2009, 03:29 AM
I voted for Gasquet's backhand but I just saw that Guga's in the poll and his backhand is the one who should get my vote.

superslam77
06-11-2009, 03:33 AM
Gustavo Kuerten, especially on clay. It was great to watch him pick Federer, to pieces, at Roland Garros, in 2004.


Women's tennis is really bad, but Justine Henin was always good to watch.

yeah pretty much Steffi Graf and Justine Henin were :drool: to watch.. i'm not old enough to know about more classic players. But nowdays WTA is HORRIBLE.

superslam77
06-11-2009, 03:37 AM
Sampras/Fed/Rafter volley on grass was good to watch and drop shot for fed/Coria?

Agassi's return and versatility?

prima donna
06-11-2009, 03:47 AM
I went with Edberg's backhand volley as well as Federer's forehand. I know -- I'm terribly indecisive.

Guy Haines
06-11-2009, 03:55 AM
That's rough: Federer serve and forehand, Edberg volley, Rosewall backhand slice, Kuerten backhand. Borg movement.

I enjoy McEnroe's and Vilas's and Nadal's forehands as well but that's because I like the look of odd lefty games. And I always thought Connors' groundstrokes were handsome in a scrappy way.

For some reason Sampras and Agassi leave me blank, though Agassi's groundstrokes looked great later in his career.

green25814
06-11-2009, 04:02 AM
Safin's doublehander?

Tim Henman had nice volleys. I think Federer has the best looking serve, though Sampras was more effective.

bluefork
06-11-2009, 04:14 AM
I'm not a big fan of the two-handed backhand, but I do enjoy watching Nalbandian's.

Johnny Groove
06-11-2009, 04:42 AM
Guga's backhand is an all-time shot.

alfonsojose
06-11-2009, 05:01 AM
Kolya's sexy baldiness

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:04 AM
Federer and Laver :yeah:

FedFan_2007
06-11-2009, 05:13 AM
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prima donna
06-11-2009, 05:15 AM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dwjePsfQV1s0/610x.jpg

Stop that!

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:25 AM
less aesthetically pleasing? Muzza's teeth :eek:

DJ Soup
06-11-2009, 05:36 AM
I'm not a big fan of the two-handed backhand, but I do enjoy watching Nalbandian's.

Nalbandian's Madrid and Paris 2007 run is to me, the most aesthetically pleasing run I have ever seen.

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 05:38 AM
I love it how people twist the thread so that "aesthically pleasing" becomes "what I like the most".

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:41 AM
I like Rafa, but his FH for example isn't the most aesthetically pleasing thing I've ever seen :rolls:

MalwareDie
06-11-2009, 05:42 AM
I love it how people twist the thread so that "aesthically pleasing" becomes "what I like the most".

Do you expect more from MTF?

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 05:43 AM
I like Rafa, but his FH for example isn't the most aesthetically pleasing thing I've ever seen :rolls:

I have a hard time defining any of Nadal's shots as "aesthetically pleasing".

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 05:45 AM
Do you expect more from MTF?

Sometimes, when I'm drunk. It's still overly funny sometimes... I mean:

Nalbandian's Madrid and Paris 2007 run is to me, the most aesthetically pleasing run I have ever seen.

:haha:

prima donna
06-11-2009, 05:46 AM
Footage of older players for younger members:

Laver/Rosewall:
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McEnroe/Lendl
McEnroe/Edberg
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Borg/Roger forehand juxtaposition:
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prima donna
06-11-2009, 05:49 AM
I have a hard time defining any of Nadal's shots as "aesthetically pleasing".
Beauty is subjective, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to include Nadal.

My conception of beauty may differ from that of other posters, so it's necessary to be inclusive so as not to alienate others.

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:50 AM
Rafa's shots are EFFECTIVE, but even as a fan I wouldn't call them BEAUTIFUL ;)

DJ Soup
06-11-2009, 05:50 AM
I beg your pardon. I can't find the funny

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edit: posted the wrong video

prima donna
06-11-2009, 05:54 AM
Rafa's shots are EFFECTIVE, but even as a fan I wouldn't call them BEAUTIFUL ;)
Obviously so, but if I hadn't included him then I'd be the subject of accusations of snobbery -- perhaps in the most cynical of cases, accusations of racism.

prima donna
06-11-2009, 05:57 AM
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Arkulari
06-11-2009, 06:05 AM
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Guy Haines
06-11-2009, 06:08 AM
Obviously so, but if I hadn't included him then I'd be the subject of accusations of snobbery -- perhaps in the most cynical of cases, accusations of racism.

Now, now you two.

I like the lasso-ing motion of the Nadal forehand (the older one clay-courtish one when he first emerged). It isn't conventionally or classically good-looking, but to me it has an appeal. Schnyder's on the women's side is a less violent version, I enjoy seeing her forehand as well.

I also love the Safin backhand. it reminds me of lacrosse in a funny way. Gasquet shows the limits of beauty. I think Amelie's game is much more beautiful (and successful).

duong
06-11-2009, 06:54 AM
This is a very interesting thread, and thank you for allowing several choices,

as it was too hard for me to choose between Federer and McEnroe.

But for Federer, the most important for me is the way he moves himself together with the movement of his shots.

When Djokovic imitated Federer, he made a dancer : that's something very special in Federer.

McEnroe's shots were maybe more impressive to me, but Federer's movement is really more important.

By the way, I consider this poll as far more important than the polls about "best player all time" :rolleyes:

duong
06-11-2009, 07:00 AM
I'm not a big fan of the two-handed backhand, but I do enjoy watching Nalbandian's.


exactly the same for me : such a control on the ball :yeah:

Ilovetheblues_86
06-11-2009, 07:03 AM
Lavers volleys :)

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 07:07 AM
Lavers volleys :)

:yeah:

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 07:08 AM
This is a very interesting thread, and thank you for allowing several choices,

as it was too hard for me to choose between Federer and McEnroe.

But for Federer, the most important for me is the way he moves himself together with the movement of his shots.

When Djokovic imitated Federer, he made a dancer : that's something very special in Federer.

McEnroe's shots were maybe more impressive to me, but Federer's movement is really more important.

By the way, I consider this poll as far more important than the polls about "best player all time" :rolleyes:

yeah, Roger moves like Baryshnikov or Nureyev, the same technique as a ballet dancer, the same grace and economy of movement and that's why his knees are still very strong after so many years of play :yeah:

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Forehander
06-11-2009, 07:52 AM
Federer - backhand passing shot, service motion, forehand (ALL THESE ARE SECONDARY)

Do you watch tennis? Federer's movement? Hello~~~? *knock* *knock*

General Suburbia
06-11-2009, 07:54 AM
Federer's forehand is pretty.

tennis2tennis
06-11-2009, 08:07 AM
Ilie Năstase movement

Polikarpov
06-11-2009, 09:39 AM
Where is the Federer dropshot option?

JolánGagó
06-11-2009, 09:54 AM
Stupid poll.

The King bh volley is the most beautifil shot ever executed on a tennis court.

Mimi
06-11-2009, 10:03 AM
who is that king?:confused:

superslam77
06-11-2009, 10:06 AM
who is that king?:confused:

You disrespect king Oscar :speakles:

Shame on you mimi ;)

FlavorNuts
06-11-2009, 10:15 AM
Nalbandian from the baseline

/Thread

Art&Soul
06-11-2009, 11:13 AM
Federer's forehand, his passing shot and his movement

oranges
06-11-2009, 11:17 AM
Edberg hands down :worship:

born_on_clay
06-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Other

habibko
06-11-2009, 11:37 AM
every single aspect of Federer's game, Edberg at the net, Gasquet's backhand.

Elena.
06-11-2009, 11:38 AM
Edberg backhand,McEnroe volleys and Sampras forehand and service motion .

miura
06-11-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm missing something here PD. For me, footwork and court coverage are two things I look for in a player. Federer's footwork, especially on hardcourts anno 2005-2006 is absolutely stunning in my opinion.

Dini
06-11-2009, 12:17 PM
Fed's inside out FH, BH passing shot, Service motion, Half-volleys, Drop shot, Footwork. Oh wait, that's nearly everything. :o

Gasquet's Backhand. Any backhand. :drool:

Stan's BHDTL too. :inlove:

miura
06-11-2009, 12:19 PM
Fed's inside out FH, BH passing shot, Service motion, Half-volleys, Drop shot, Footwork. Oh wait, that's nearly everything. :o

Gasquet's Backhand. Any backhand. :drool:

Stan's BHDTL too. :inlove:
In essence what you're saying Nadine, ditch the foreplay and put on a video of a Roger-match? :lol:

:angel:

Dini
06-11-2009, 12:25 PM
In essence what you're saying Nadine, ditch the foreplay and put on a video of a Roger-match? :lol:

:angel:

Exactly. :drool: I mean the guy is complete. :shrug:

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1.52. :drool: :drool: What do you call that shot? Half-volley-dropshot? :hearts:

miura
06-11-2009, 12:27 PM
Yeah, something like that :lol:

Dini
06-11-2009, 12:35 PM
Richie's BH really is something else. :sad: Damn I miss it so much. :sobbing:

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seljanin
06-11-2009, 12:39 PM
Edberg backhand,McEnroe volleys and Sampras forehand and service motion .

Voted for exactly the same three :yeah:

If I had to choose only one, I'd choose Edberg's BH volley. The most beautiful tennis shot ever in my book :worship:

There are a few more shots, which are not included in the poll, but are among my very favorites: Grosjean's FH (especially inside-out), Henman's chip&charge (especially from the BH side), and Pete Sampras's dunk smash.

P.S. I'm probably a unique weirdo here, but Andy Roddick's service motion is also among my favorite tennis shots from the aesthetical point of view :unsure:

Henry Chinaski
06-11-2009, 12:49 PM
Florian Mayer's jumping bh drop shot needs a mention.

And no this isn't an ironic post.

Robredo's movement on clay is very graceful too.

MatchFederer
06-11-2009, 12:51 PM
P.S. I'm probably a unique weirdo here, but Andy Roddick's service motion is also among my favorite tennis shots from the aesthetical point of view :unsure:

Well, I would say it is a very compact, stylish, explosive and cool looking service motion, and unerringly consistent.

seljanin
06-11-2009, 12:55 PM
Well, I would say it is a very compact, stylish, explosive and cool looking service motion, and unerringly consistent.

Yep, you described it very well. That's actually exactly, how I see it, just couldn't find the best way to describe :)

Dini
06-11-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't find Andy's serve aesthetically pleasing. :o The way he bends and tucks in his arm etc removes the "fluid" motion, it all seems a bit broken up in phases to me- not a continuous "stroke" or whatever you want to call it.

Allegretto
06-11-2009, 01:09 PM
The Murray forehand.

tennishero
06-11-2009, 01:42 PM
Nalbandian from the baseline

/Thread

agree :)

sammy01
06-11-2009, 01:44 PM
roddicks ass and simons packet lol

on a serious note federers forehand is beautiful,as is nadals movement on clay.

on an old skool note henmans backhand smash was perfect and always a crowd pleaser.

Mateya
06-11-2009, 01:47 PM
Nalbandian twohanded backhand. :cool: :worship:

Onehanded backhands just don't do it for me, I don't like them no matter how great the shot is.

Sampras had a beautiful service motion.

prima donna
06-11-2009, 02:08 PM
I'm missing something here PD. For me, footwork and court coverage are two things I look for in a player. Federer's footwork, especially on hardcourts anno 2005-2006 is absolutely stunning in my opinion.


Federer - backhand passing shot, service motion, forehand (ALL THESE ARE SECONDARY)

I purposely watered down Roger's attributes so as to avoid charges of bias. To be sure, his feline movement is perhaps the most elegant part of his game. Although I also think that an argument could be made that his movement is no longer what it once was, such has been the case for two years or so.

In my opinion, Roger hasn't moved really well (based on his standards) since the '07 Australian Open. Also, his physique is bulkier, which has the natural effect of slowing down his movement. For example, take a look in the archives and compare his physique in, say, the '04 US Open final against Hewitt to his current physique.

Roger has gained a good 10lbs, according to ATPTour.com. He's currently listed at 187lbs, whereas he was listed at 177lbs a few years ago. Still, he moves better than most of his peers -- movement not to be conflated with raw speed.

duong
06-11-2009, 02:25 PM
I purposely watered down Roger's attributes so as to avoid charges of bias. To be sure, his feline movement is perhaps the most elegant part of his game. Although I also think that an argument could be made that his movement is no longer what it once was, such has been the case for two years or so.

In my opinion, Roger hasn't moved really well (based on his standards) since the '07 Australian Open. Also, his physique is bulkier, which has the natural effect of slowing down his movement. For example, take a look in the archives and compare his physique in, say, the '04 US Open final against Hewitt to his current physique.

Roger has gained a good 10lbs, according to ATPTour.com. He's currently listed at 187lbs, whereas he was listed at 177lbs a few years ago. Still, he moves better than most of his peers -- movement not to be conflated with raw speed.

you don't judge the aesthetics of miss world when she's 90 years old :lol:

Of course you are right : he declined in that aspect but you have to judge it at the best moment ;)

Burrow
06-11-2009, 02:27 PM
roddicks ass and simons packet lol

on a serious note federers forehand is beautiful,as is nadals movement on clay.

on an old skool note henmans backhand smash was perfect and always a crowd pleaser.

and you wonder why I was pointing out the gay population on here?

Burrow
06-11-2009, 02:28 PM
I purposely watered down Roger's attributes so as to avoid charges of bias. To be sure, his feline movement is perhaps the most elegant part of his game. Although I also think that an argument could be made that his movement is no longer what it once was, such has been the case for two years or so.

In my opinion, Roger hasn't moved really well (based on his standards) since the '07 Australian Open. Also, his physique is bulkier, which has the natural effect of slowing down his movement. For example, take a look in the archives and compare his physique in, say, the '04 US Open final against Hewitt to his current physique.

Roger has gained a good 10lbs, according to ATPTour.com. He's currently listed at 187lbs, whereas he was listed at 177lbs a few years ago. Still, he moves better than most of his peers -- movement not to be conflated with raw speed.

Federer was listed 192lbs not long ago.

prima donna
06-11-2009, 02:29 PM
you don't judge the aesthetics of miss world when she's 90 years old :lol:
Unfortunately, short-term memory prevails on this forum.

Burrow
06-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Quite a lot for me actually, Henman's chip and charge/volley's, Safin/Agassi/Gaudio's backhands, Mcenroe's touch, Federer's forehand, Davydenko's movement are all up there.

rocketassist
06-11-2009, 02:48 PM
Laver's footage on YouTube is absolutely brilliant. If he could recreate that with the modern technology he'd be unbelievable.

I'd go with Edberg and McEnroe on this.

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Del Potro's thigh.

sammy01
06-11-2009, 03:23 PM
and you wonder why I was pointing out the gay population on here?

you wouldn't even notice it if i was mentioning hewitts girlfriend. you have issues.:wavey:

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Laver : backhand and volley
Sampras: serve
Federer: forehand and movement
McEnroe: groundstrokes

if you could pull a frankestein and create a player that can have a combination of all of that, that one would really be the greatest one :yeah:

duong
06-11-2009, 05:22 PM
McEnroe: groundstrokes


not volley ?

By the way when I look at Laver-Rosewall, it seems I prefer Rosewall's game.

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:29 PM
I prefer Laver's volleys, but Mac's were awesome as well :yeah:

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 05:57 PM
Mac's groundstrokes aesthetically pleasing??? I agree his volleys were excellent and not that unattractive, but Johnny Mac is second only to Nadal among the greats when it comes to ugly strokes. Nothing wrong with that though, a point is a point.

rocketassist
06-11-2009, 06:09 PM
McEnroe's slice was the best thing about his strokes.

sammy01
06-11-2009, 06:24 PM
Mac's groundstrokes aesthetically pleasing??? I agree his volleys were excellent and not that unattractive, but Johnny Mac is second only to Nadal among the greats when it comes to ugly strokes. Nothing wrong with that though, a point is a point.

i agree his strokes were anything but beautiful, but as you say they did the job ;)

GlennMirnyi
06-11-2009, 06:31 PM
Anusthetics are just so your operation doesnt hurt , not pleasing just essential really:o

Orthography isn't your forte, is it?

sanpo
06-11-2009, 06:37 PM
Sampras had a lousy service motion. I say

Federer's serve, forehand, BH slice
Kuerten's 1hBH
Safin/Nalby's 2h BH

r3d_d3v1l_
06-11-2009, 07:01 PM
Federer overall.

RagingLamb
06-11-2009, 07:20 PM
Federer and Borg's movement, Kuerten's BH, Mac and Edberg's volley's, Pete's serve and:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VbRP2e9Y11s/RoeOgnvEupI/AAAAAAAAAHM/pyK-3bX0hT0/s400/tennis+sampras+smash.jpg

habibko
06-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Federer and Borg's movement, Kuerten's BH, Mac and Edberg's volley's, Pete's serve and:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VbRP2e9Y11s/RoeOgnvEupI/AAAAAAAAAHM/pyK-3bX0hT0/s400/tennis+sampras+smash.jpg

congrats on Supermod RL :worship:

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 07:27 PM
Federer and Borg's movement, Kuerten's BH, Mac and Edberg's volley's, Pete's serve and:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VbRP2e9Y11s/RoeOgnvEupI/AAAAAAAAAHM/pyK-3bX0hT0/s400/tennis+sampras+smash.jpg

yeah his slam dunks were flashy stuff.

I suggest you change the link to the search function to "FREE SEX!". :D

Macbrother
06-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Federer and Borg's movement, Kuerten's BH, Mac and Edberg's volley's, Pete's serve and:


Of course. How could we forget? Your list concurs with mine btw, although I would like to add the Federer backhand pass. The angles he could generate along with the utter fluidity of the motion were just sublime. One in particular in the Sampras '01 match will forever burn in my mind.

edit: although I must add since this is about aesthetics Edberg's volleys "looked" better I think, it's just McEnroe had the genius.

Dini
06-11-2009, 07:37 PM
Of course. How could we forget? Your list concurs with mine btw, although I would like to add the Federer backhand pass. The angles he could generate along with the utter fluidity of the motion were just sublime. One in particular in the Sampras '01 match will forever burn in my mind.

Can you find a clip of it? :sad: I've got a feeling I know which one you're talking about but at the same time it was such a long time ago I watched that match that I may have confused it with another one in my mind.

MatchFederer
06-11-2009, 07:44 PM
The Federer backhand flick is my single most loved thing to look at in any sport.

Dini
06-11-2009, 07:52 PM
The Federer backhand flick is my single most loved thing to look at in any sport.

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Are you talking about 4:12? :inlove:

duong
06-11-2009, 07:54 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VbRP2e9Y11s/RoeOgnvEupI/AAAAAAAAAHM/pyK-3bX0hT0/s400/tennis+sampras+smash.jpg

Noah's smash was as beautiful imo (his serve was also very beautiful), unfortunately I have no photos.

habibko
06-11-2009, 08:01 PM
The Federer backhand flick is my single most loved thing to look at in any sport.

Are you talking about 4:12? :inlove:

you mean this? :drool: (check at 1:43)

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that's what I call a finishing blow :worship:

MatchFederer
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
you mean this? :drool: (check at 1:43)

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that's what I call a finishing blow :worship:

:D Yep guys... a thing of absolute beauty. These videos are awesome by the way...

Burrow
06-11-2009, 08:10 PM
you wouldn't even notice it if i was mentioning hewitts girlfriend. you have issues.:wavey:

What are you talking about? Do you think you are the man because you constantly point out how much you love the sausage? :lol:

prima donna
06-11-2009, 08:11 PM
Federer smash
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r2473
06-11-2009, 08:23 PM
anna kournikova

Mint Chip
06-11-2009, 08:46 PM
Nalbandian and Safin's Backhand down the line is very nice to watch. The placement of Federer's serve with easy power deserves a mention aswell. I'm torn between Berdych and Mathieu's choking abilities on big points

habibko
06-11-2009, 09:07 PM
Federer smash

don't forget this one as well :worship:

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Macbrother
06-11-2009, 09:44 PM
Can you find a clip of it? :sad: I've got a feeling I know which one you're talking about but at the same time it was such a long time ago I watched that match that I may have confused it with another one in my mind.

The point that begins at 3:33. :)

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Vida
06-11-2009, 09:48 PM
wow. so many fed worshipers in this thread...

MatchFederer
06-11-2009, 09:56 PM
wow. so many fed worshipers in this thread...

Truly marvelous! :D

habibko
06-11-2009, 09:58 PM
wow. so many fed worshipers in this thread...

as the poll should tell you, he is by far the most aesthetically pleasing player of all time, so that is only natural :)

Vida
06-11-2009, 10:08 PM
as the poll should tell you, he is by far the most aesthetically pleasing player of all time, so that is only natural :)

he is also an active player so many of his fans/worshipers are actively glory hunting on the board/s....

personally, though I find his game VERY aesthetically pleasing, I'd pick JMac any time of the week. Also Rafa's FH is more beautiful than Feds - to me at least. Feds BH is poor to say the least.

his movement and general athleticism though, is unique, and something that captivates my imagination.

Dini
06-11-2009, 10:11 PM
This has become his patent shot apparently :lol:

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My fave trio:

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bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Also Rafa's FH is more beautiful than Feds

:spit: and Nole's dropshots are also more beautiful than Fed's? :lol:

Macbrother
06-11-2009, 10:14 PM
he is also an active player so many of his fans/worshipers are actively glory hunting on the board/s....

personally, though I find his game VERY aesthetically pleasing, I'd pick JMac any time of the week. Also Rafa's FH is more beautiful than Feds - to me at least. Feds BH is poor to say the least.

his movement and general athleticism though, is unique, and something that captivates my imagination.

You are seriously having a problem with people saying Federer's backhand passing shot is aesthetically pleasing, given the countless video shots of the stroke? Beauty is indeed, in the eye of the beholder, and what exactly does that have to do with glory hunting?

Dini
06-11-2009, 10:15 PM
Beauty is the eye of the beholder as they say. :shrug: Some people find Nadal's FH beautiful, personally I think it's one of the ugliest out there, but it's certainly very effective.

Vida
06-11-2009, 10:19 PM
:spit: and Nole's dropshots are also more beautiful than Fed's? :lol:

laugh all you want, but Nole is unique in his own right. DS is just a pat of it, and though he uses it often - to shorten the point, it is is very good trick shot/weapon.

he - similar to Rafa - has taken athleticism to another level. there was an interview with Pat Cash year ago, just before Wimby, where he talks, among other thing, how he saw Djokser warming up... it was incredible what he does to flex those limbs... just to illustrate what he does to make those 'out of nowhere' saves, esp on BH wing when stretched. I like Djokers game very very much. no player like him on the tour.

Vida
06-11-2009, 10:21 PM
You are seriously having a problem with people saying Federer's backhand passing shot is aesthetically pleasing, given the countless video shots of the stroke? Beauty is indeed, in the eye of the beholder, and what exactly does that have to do with glory hunting?

problem? whats the problem? :lol:

bokehlicious
06-11-2009, 10:22 PM
laugh all you want, but Nole is unique in his own right. DS is just a pat of it, and though he uses it often - to shorten the point, it is is very good trick shot/weapon.

he - similar to Rafa - has taken athleticism to another level. there was an interview with Pat Cash year ago, just before Wimby, where he talks, among other thing, how he saw Djokser warming up... it was incredible what he does to flex those limbs... just to illustrate what he does to make those 'out of nowhere' saves, esp on BH wing when stretched. I like Djokers game very very much. no player like him on the tour.

:hug: :hug:

Vida
06-11-2009, 10:24 PM
Beauty is the eye of the beholder as they say. :shrug: Some people find Nadal's FH beautiful, personally I think it's one of the ugliest out there, but it's certainly very effective.

I like it a lot. especially on clay when he strikes it from 3 m behind the baseline and it flies like a rocket. what more I find it beautiful.

prima donna
06-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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Dini
06-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Oh my! What a point (middle vid)... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Thanks for sharing. :yeah:

sammy01
06-11-2009, 10:43 PM
Oh my! What a point (middle vid)... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Thanks for sharing. :yeah:

great point, but i love the ball kid wiping up the sweat when he rolls over lmao.

heya
06-11-2009, 10:43 PM
There's nothing pleasing except Federer's freaky flexible long arms, genetically-given strength, and thin 180-pound frame. Apologetic fans're exaggerating his intellect and charm level to comfort themselves.

Dini
06-11-2009, 10:45 PM
There's nothing pleasing except Federer's freaky flexible long arms, genetically-given strength, and thin 180-pound frame. Apologetic fans're exaggerating his intellect and charm level to comfort themselves.

:zzz: :yawn:

Macbrother
06-12-2009, 01:47 AM
problem? whats the problem? :lol:

You are accusing people of fed worshiping / glory hunting because they find certain aspects of his game pleasing to the eye?

leng jai
06-12-2009, 02:05 AM
Too much Fedmug in this thread.

heya
06-12-2009, 02:10 AM
Raising the index finger, as if he was the #1.
Whining that he wasn't exposed in the US, telling ESPN, "I kind of like watching players suffer in hot weather."

Calling himself important and powerful, which gave him giggles.
John Mc, "You should admit you're less talented than Djokovic and Federer,"
"Federer is really special."

Fowler: "Federer never is unmodest."
Pat McEnroe said "Federer's a man of integrity. He's unbeatable." "I'd pay to see his free matches around the world."

superslam77
06-12-2009, 02:35 AM
Too Much Gasquet!!

How can you compare him to these legends!!
MTF is worse that keeps voting for him :eek:

leng jai
06-12-2009, 02:39 AM
Too Much Gasquet!!

How can you compare him to these legends!!
MTF is worse that keeps voting for him :eek:

I don't even think Gasquet's game is aesthetically pleasing in any way, but what has been a legend go to do with how good your style looks :confused:

superslam77
06-12-2009, 02:46 AM
I don't even think Gasquet's game is aesthetically pleasing in any way, but what has been a legend go to do with how good your style looks :confused:

I see that list and something is wrong, makes me want to rip my head off. If Gasquet is there why not Nalby or Tommy haas,Kolya,Tsonga? no just no.

fast_clay
06-12-2009, 03:01 AM
Wally Masur

prima donna
06-12-2009, 03:10 AM
I see that list and something is wrong, makes me want to rip my head off. If Gasquet is there why not Nalby or Tommy haas,Kolya,Tsonga? no just no.
It's merely coincidental that most of the players listed happen to be regarded as legends of the game. Actually, the one feature that most of them share in common is the one-handed backhand, Borg being the lone exception.

Although such an observation does raise an interesting point: Has the beauty of our sport deteriorated as modern technology has developed ? Yes, players are capable of hitting, on average, a heavier ball, but has such an advancement come at the expense of aesthetics ?

Nalbandian is the only player whom I regret having excluded from the list. Gasquet's backhand is far better than that of Tommy Haas. Safin and Tsonga represent the antithesis of aesthetic beauty; both of them are the embodiment of brute force.

superslam77
06-12-2009, 03:17 AM
It's merely coincidental that most of the players listed happen to be regarded as legends of the game. Actually, the one feature that most of them share in common is the one-handed backhand, Borg being the lone exception.

Although such an observation does raise an interesting point: Has the beauty of our sport deteriorated as modern technology has developed ? Yes, players are capable of hitting, on average, a heavier ball, but has such an advancement come at the expense of aesthetics ?

Nalbandian is the only player whom I regret having excluded from the list. Gasquet's backhand is far better than that of Tommy Haas. Safin and Tsonga represent the antithesis of aesthetic beauty; both of them are the embodiment of brute force.

:yeah: because you can't receive more good rep.

Har-Tru
06-12-2009, 03:25 AM
It's merely coincidental that most of the players listed happen to be regarded as legends of the game. Actually, the one feature that most of them share in common is the one-handed backhand, Borg being the lone exception.

Although such an observation does raise an interesting point: Has the beauty of our sport deteriorated as modern technology has developed ? Yes, players are capable of hitting, on average, a heavier ball, but has such an advancement come at the expense of aesthetics ?

You should watch more 70s tennis.

MacTheKnife
06-12-2009, 03:31 AM
It's merely coincidental that most of the players listed happen to be regarded as legends of the game. Actually, the one feature that most of them share in common is the one-handed backhand, Borg being the lone exception.

Although such an observation does raise an interesting point: Has the beauty of our sport deteriorated as modern technology has developed ? Yes, players are capable of hitting, on average, a heavier ball, but has such an advancement come at the expense of aesthetics ?

Nalbandian is the only player whom I regret having excluded from the list. Gasquet's backhand is far better than that of Tommy Haas. Safin and Tsonga represent the antithesis of aesthetic beauty; both of them are the embodiment of brute force.

Yes, I would agree with this. It seems that brute force and power is replacing rhythm, timing, weight transfer, and economy of movement. There are still a few players that combine all or some of these, but the number does appear to be declining.

prima donna
06-12-2009, 03:34 AM
You should watch more 70s tennis.
Well, I'm quite aware of the differences. My first racquet was a wooden one, so I have a predilection towards creativity, which was an absolute necessity before the introduction of graphite racquets. Actually, even the Prince Original Graphite (my weapon of choice) is incomparable to the technological advancements that have been made in terms of how racquets are manufactured.

The strings have also contributed to the uglification of the game, but they've also made certain shots easier to hit, which is why it's difficult to definitively say that Federer is better than Laver.

It's no coincidence that traditional players would be more aesthetically pleasing -- perfect technique and positioning are required to consistently hit groundies with older technology.

MacTheKnife
06-12-2009, 03:42 AM
Well, I'm quite aware of the differences. My first racquet was a wooden one, so I have a predilection towards creativity, which was an absolute necessity before the introduction of graphite racquets. Actually, even the Prince Original Graphite (my weapon of choice) is incomparable to the technological advancements that have been made in terms of how racquets are manufactured.

The strings have also contributed to the uglification of the game, but they've also made certain shots easier to hit, which is why it's difficult to definitively say that Federer is better than Laver.

It's no coincidence that traditional players would be more aesthetically pleasing -- perfect technique and positioning is required to consistently hit groundies with older technology.

Spot on and one of the reasons I don't spend a lot of time on the GOAT stuff. Yes, I have my own list but know full well that any comparison of today vs the old days is pure speculation. I too started with wood, then the old "RED HEAD", and on and on.

prima donna
06-12-2009, 03:51 AM
Spot on and one of the reasons I don't spend a lot of time on the GOAT stuff. Yes, I have my own list but know full well that any comparison of today vs the old days is pure speculation. I too started with wood, then the old "RED HEAD", and on and on.
I recall watching Fed play Ljubicic at TMC a few years ago, and Cliff Drysdale (undoubtedly totally smitten by Roger) remarked that the short ball that Roger often employs to bait his opponents into the net would have been extremely difficult, if not impossible to hit using the equipment that was used by Laver. Of course, one could argue otherwise, but how effective would a shot like that be without the tremendous backspin/slice imparted on the ball by the strings ?

It's not as though it's a sitter begging to be smashed for a winner; the spin makes it incredibly difficult to control.

leng jai
06-12-2009, 03:54 AM
I don't how you can compare how aesthetically pleasing someone's backhand is to someone's forehand. Its apples to oranges. This thread should be about how aesthetically pleasing player's games are overall.

Also, Gasquet's backhand looks nice but it doesn't look any better than Kuerten of Haas'. It doesn't help that hes hitting it on the backfoot from 3 metres behind the baseline half the time.

prima donna
06-12-2009, 04:13 AM
I don't how you can compare how aesthetically pleasing someone's backhand is to someone's forehand. Its apples to oranges.
Apples to oranges in what sense ? There are certain players whose games are disproportionately appealing in certain aspects, while being horrendous in others. Case in point: Gasquet's forehand is a relatively atrocious shot, while his backhand is a glorious shot by any standard, likewise Federer's backhand looks very ordinary as a rallying shot.

I think it's easier to compare strength to strength as opposed to comparing games as a whole, in the former it's a question of aesthetics, while in the latter the question becomes one of variety. Let's see: Kuerten's serve ? Gasquet's forehand and serve ? Nothing to write home about, nonetheless both players have a strength which distinguishes them from other players.

Beauty is beauty. Some will prefer forehands, others will prefer backhands. I don't see why this should present such a dilemma.


Also, Gasquet's backhand looks nice but it doesn't look any better than Kuerten of Haas'. It doesn't help that hes hitting it on the backfoot from 3 metres behind the baseline half the time.
Beauty is subjective, so there's no way to definitively determine whether Gasquet's backhand is more stylish than that of Haas. I believe that Gasquet is able to execute shots of a greater difficulty level with his backhand than most -- including Tommy Haas. Apparently, many agree, based on poll results.

Forehander
06-12-2009, 05:05 AM
Was it paes or buphathi? Their service motion definitely is worth mentioning

duong
06-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Nalbandian is the only player whom I regret having excluded from the list.

I agree with everything you wrote, but I think also Nastase is a little bit missing (which also goes in the idea that there was some great aesthetics in the past which we miss a little bit)

His variations, dropshots, volleys were really pleasing.

bokehlicious
06-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Edberg's forehand should defintely be somewhere in the poll :hearts: :shrug:

Deivid23
06-12-2009, 09:34 AM
Hey myskinalova, your snob propaganda fails miserably when you´re leaving out the most aesthetically pleasing active player, David Nalbandian. Those joints of yours are taking a toll in your brain, mate, no good.

bokehlicious
06-12-2009, 09:36 AM
Hey Burro, annoyed cause he didn't include Rafatito's volleys? :awww: :baby:

superslam77
06-12-2009, 09:39 AM
Hey Burro, annoyed cause he didn't include Rafatito's volleys? :awww: :baby:

:spit:
:drink:

Deivid23
06-12-2009, 09:40 AM
Hey Burro, annoyed cause he didn't include Rafatito's volleys? :awww: :baby:

The day I get annoyed by a thread/post in MTF I will shoot myself, burro :lol:

Matt01
06-12-2009, 06:52 PM
Too Much Gasquet!!

How can you compare him to these legends!!
MTF is worse that keeps voting for him :eek:


Gasquet's backhand is much more aesthetically pleasing than anything is in Federer's game though :angel:

its.like.that
06-12-2009, 07:27 PM
Other - David Nalbandian.

its.like.that
06-12-2009, 07:28 PM
Agassi and Hewitt are both scrappers.

Nothing aesthetically pleasing about their games at all.

turkjey5
06-12-2009, 09:30 PM
any love for Pat Rafter? I loved watching that guy play.

Har-Tru
06-12-2009, 09:50 PM
any love for Pat Rafter? I loved watching that guy play.

count me in. his bh volley dropshots were :drool:.

MatchFederer
06-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Loved Pat.

Matt01
06-12-2009, 09:57 PM
count me in. his bh volley dropshots were :drool:.


Count me in as well :angel: Rafty was nice to look at in every possible way.

peribsen
06-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Most aesthetically pleasing ?

That has to be Sharapova.

MatchFederer
06-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Most aesthetically pleasing ?

That has to be Sharapova.

Most aurally pleasing too... :eek:

Andi-M
06-13-2009, 12:05 AM
Tsonga.....his game aint bad either ;)

sykotique
06-13-2009, 02:07 AM
Federer's forehand down the line (orthodox on the forehand side, not the inside out where he has run around the backhand), you know, the one which is hit with pace and flat with that modern eastern grip he uses when he takes two long strides to his right and just whips the racket across his left shoulder with ridiculous head spead; it has to be one of the most visually commanding shots I've ever witnessed in the game.

But Gasquet's backhand down the line, when he rises up from that coiled position, is a thing of beauty as well and looks so positively effortless, although it's probably the least effective shot on the list. There was this one backhand in particular against Roddick, I think it was the final point of the tiebreak in that epic encounter at Wimbledon, where he coiled his core, then rose on the tips of his forward leg, rotated practically his entire torso through the shot and dismissed the ball down line with ridiculous pace.

Black Adam
06-13-2009, 02:25 AM
Feliciano Lopez's serve swing :hearts:

VolandriFan
06-13-2009, 08:22 AM
Gaston's backhand.
Feña's forehand.