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Best indoor players ever?

jmsx521
06-10-2009, 03:45 PM
What are the rankings for most indoor (hard/carpet) tournament wins?

Action Jackson
06-10-2009, 03:54 PM
1. Lendl
2. Becker
3. Sampras
4. Ivanisevic
5. McEnroe
6. Stich
7. Edberg
8. Borg
9. Enqvist
10. Safin

Kolya
06-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Sampras said Becker was the best.

Corey Feldman
06-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Berasategui

Action Jackson
06-10-2009, 03:57 PM
Berasategui

:worship::worship: his efforts on the German ice rink at the Masters were too good.

Ariadne
06-10-2009, 03:58 PM
1-Lendl
2-Becker
3-Edberg/McEnroe

q.j.
06-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Murray

jordan810915
06-10-2009, 04:15 PM
Nalbandian...

jmsx521
06-11-2009, 05:29 AM
1. Lendl
2. Becker
3. Sampras
4. Ivanisevic
5. McEnroe
6. Stich
7. Edberg
8. Borg
9. Enqvist
10. SafinIs that just an opinion, or are you counting tournament wins?

DJ Soup
06-11-2009, 05:33 AM
there was a time when Nalbandian was perfection on indoors.

GlennMirnyi
06-11-2009, 05:38 AM
there was a time when Nalbandian was perfection on indoors.

You mean as in never? Another life?

DJ Soup
06-11-2009, 05:46 AM
You mean as in never? Another life?
Nope

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 05:55 AM
Nalby had one hell of a indoor season in 2007, the best one any player has had in the last year :shrug:

the last two TMS (specially Paris) are usually either tanking-land or injury-fatigue-withdrawal-land and people aren't really consistent except for Fat Dave ;)

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 05:58 AM
Nalby had one hell of a indoor season in 2007, the best one any player has had in the last year :shrug:

the last two TMS (specially Paris) are usually either tanking-land or injury-fatigue-withdrawal-land and people aren't really consistent except for Fat Dave ;)

That's when McDonald's and Burger King raise their prices.

Arkulari
06-11-2009, 06:08 AM
:rolls: :rolls:

so much talent wasted on Fat Dave :o

no puedes dormir? :hug:

Har-Tru
06-11-2009, 06:44 AM
:rolls: :rolls:

so much talent wasted on Fat Dave :o

no puedes dormir? :hug:

no. :sad:

FatDave makes me angry just to see that much talent go to waste...

CyBorg
06-11-2009, 07:23 AM
1. Lendl
2. Becker
3. Sampras
4. Ivanisevic
5. McEnroe
6. Stich
7. Edberg
8. Borg
9. Enqvist
10. Safin

Borg was really underrated indoors. He handled Mac just fine on the surface from 1979 to 1980 and then beat both Mac and Lendl indoors in his shortlived comeback tour in late 1982.

CyBorg
06-11-2009, 07:26 AM
Sampras said Becker was the best.

Maybe this gave Pete some comfort, because Boris gave him nightmares indoors from 95-96.

I think Boris was a bit overrated on carpet. Very good, but only one masters cup in the late 80s. Kind of pales in comparison to Lendl's nine consecutive masters cup finals in a row.

Ilovetheblues_86
06-11-2009, 07:26 AM
Söderking will be there soon :)

Action Jackson
06-11-2009, 10:17 AM
Is that just an opinion, or are you counting tournament wins?

I know what I saw when it came to these guys.

Connors won 109 titles, does this make him the best of all time.

Action Jackson
06-11-2009, 10:19 AM
Maybe this gave Pete some comfort, because Boris gave him nightmares indoors from 95-96.

I think Boris was a bit overrated on carpet. Very good, but only one masters cup in the late 80s. Kind of pales in comparison to Lendl's nine consecutive masters cup finals in a row.

Lendl clearly the best indoors, the others are all very good, but Lendl's consistency in these conditions, no wind, no sun, all worked for him.

FlavorNuts
06-11-2009, 10:26 AM
Nalby had one hell of a indoor season in 2007, the best one any player has had in the last year :shrug:

the last two TMS (specially Paris) are usually either tanking-land or injury-fatigue-withdrawal-land and people aren't really consistent except for Fat Dave ;)Or it could mean that an injury-free, fit Nalbandian is the best player in the world.
For the past 4 years, the only stretch where Nalbandian hasn't been carrying an injury or 20 lbs of extra weight was during that indoor run in 2007.

born_on_clay
06-11-2009, 11:27 AM
Nalbandian maybe ?

DrJules
06-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Lendl clearly the best indoors, the others are all very good, but Lendl's consistency in these conditions, no wind, no sun, all worked for him.

Felt Lendl only marginally better than Sampras and not sure why you place Becker ahead of Sampras.

Dini
06-11-2009, 01:55 PM
Damn I miss Nalby. :sobbing: :sad:

Black Adam
06-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Scud.

Andre♥
06-11-2009, 01:58 PM
:worship::worship: his efforts on the German ice rink at the Masters were too good.

He later defeated Krajicek in Bercy, one of the biggest upsets I've ever seen! :haha:

Action Jackson
06-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Felt Lendl only marginally better than Sampras and not sure why you place Becker ahead of Sampras.

It wasn't marginal with Big Ivan, actually with the ones under it doesn't bother me too much, what order they are in, as they all were among the best under a roof. Lendl is the standout, Sampras or Becker either way, I don't care what order.

Burrow
06-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Or it could mean that an injury-free, fit Nalbandian is the best player in the world.
For the past 4 years, the only stretch where Nalbandian hasn't been carrying an injury or 20 lbs of extra weight was during that indoor run in 2007.

This is just Bullshit. Who says he actually wasn't the same when he won those two tournaments than he is now, barely any noticeable difference to be honest.

romaine
06-11-2009, 09:35 PM
In my opinion definitely Becker, Lendl, Sampras and Edberg and Roger

tennishero
06-11-2009, 10:32 PM
nalbandian at his best.

Burrow
06-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Safin crushed Nalbandian in the 2004 Madrid final. Not a chance.

tennishero
06-12-2009, 12:10 AM
Safin crushed Nalbandian in the 2004 Madrid final. Not a chance.

and nalbandian crushed safin in Madrid 2006. Not a chance.

jmsx521
06-12-2009, 03:53 AM
If someone can post the indoor-tournament wins for all of these players, that would actually resolve the issue.

raymondtehcc
06-12-2009, 03:57 AM
and nalbandian crushed safin in Madrid 2006. Not a chance.
Haven't seen Nalbandian play in tennis tournament lately, missed his powerful backhand shot.:worship:

TheBoiledEgg
06-12-2009, 04:42 AM
these days indoor tennis is like clay :o
all carpet courts have virtually disappeared and replace by slow hard courts :yawn:

bring back the ice rinks of the 80's and 90's

Action Jackson
06-12-2009, 09:42 AM
If someone can post the indoor-tournament wins for all of these players, that would actually resolve the issue.

Why don't you do some research yourself? Lendl made the TMC final 8 times in a row, when it was actually fast, not like now. Carpet and hardcourt play differently.

thrust
06-12-2009, 02:38 PM
If you say BEST EVER, one has to include Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver in that they played most of their Pro matches indoors. Sampras,Lendl and Becker were also great indoor players. No doubt Roger and Rafa are too, but they don't play that many matches indoors.

DekuTheEvilClown
06-12-2009, 04:17 PM
Interestingly, Murray has a better win-loss ratio indoors than Federer, Sampras and Becker. Still inferior to Lendl though.

Yeah I know indoor surfaces are very different now than they used to be and this doesn't really say a lot but it's interesting none the less. Murray's record under a roof is insanely good, I think people forget that he has won 7 of his 11 tournaments indoors.

With the masters being indoors in London for atleast the next 3 years, it looks likely that murray might get a good record going in it.

Burrow
06-12-2009, 04:35 PM
and nalbandian crushed safin in Madrid 2006. Not a chance.

crushed? he won like 7-5 in the third, and do you know that Safin hasn't been the same player since he got injured in 05? :retard:

Burrow
06-12-2009, 04:36 PM
If you say BEST EVER, one has to include Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver in that they played most of their Pro matches indoors. Sampras,Lendl and Becker were also great indoor players. No doubt Roger and Rafa are too, but they don't play that many matches indoors.

:spit:

DekuTheEvilClown
06-12-2009, 05:03 PM
Indoor winning percentages of players mentioned so far -

Mcenroe - 85.2%
Lendl - 82.9%
Connors - 81.9%
Borg - 80.8%
Murray - 80.0%
Becker - 79.8%
Federer - 79.1%
Sampras - 77.7%
Nalbandian - 72.6%
Edberg - 71.2%
Soderling - 70.6%
Stich - 68.6%
Ivanisevic - 67.7%
Safin - 62.7%
Enqvist - 62.6%


Make of that as you will. I personally would rank Lendl the best for his masters record. Sampras win-loss ratio is fairly low as I expected, he always does quite poor in these kind of stats as he tended to peak for big tournaments and have fairly average years outside of them.

tennishero
06-12-2009, 05:15 PM
crushed? he won like 7-5 in the third, and do you know that Safin hasn't been the same player since he got injured in 05? :retard:

nalbandian was nowhere near as good in 04/06 as he was in 07. and he still beat him :retard:

Indoor winning percentages of players mentioned so far -
Nalbandian - 72.6%
Safin - 62.7%


GG

Action Jackson
06-12-2009, 05:18 PM
Murray's stats don't mean that much when he has played St.Petersburg twice and that is not one of the strongest fields.

Pfloyd
06-12-2009, 05:20 PM
I'd also vote that proportionally speaking, Nalbandian is way up there, but consistency has always been his problem.

DekuTheEvilClown
06-12-2009, 05:30 PM
Murray's stats don't mean that much when he has played St.Petersburg twice and that is not one of the strongest fields.

Everyone on the list played lots of MM tournaments. Especially people like Lendl and Connors.

Murray's winning percentage is more likely to go up than down imo. Most of his matches in his record were before he hit his current form.

Action Jackson
06-12-2009, 05:34 PM
Everyone on the list played lots of MM tournaments. Especially people like Lendl and Connors.

Murray's winning percentage is more likely to go up than down imo. Most of his matches in his record were before he hit his current form.

Murray's stats aren't really relevant until he actually wins some big indoor events. Lendl and Connors performed at the highest stage consistently over a sustained period of time.

He really shouldn't be included among those were listed who at least have been on the tour for a while and had big title wins indoors.

DekuTheEvilClown
06-12-2009, 05:47 PM
Murray has won a masters series event indoors. There's only one bigger tournament than that.

So you're saying only players who've won the masters should be included?

Murrays stats were merely meant to be an interesting point, I never suggested he's in the top 5 Indoor players of all time.

Action Jackson
06-12-2009, 05:53 PM
He has won 1 Masters event indoors, apart from Söderling the others are multiple winners of Masters events or the end of season championships.

It's like lets throw Murray in there, when he isn't in the top 10 and it's too early at this moment to think that.

DekuTheEvilClown
06-12-2009, 06:01 PM
It's simply a list of winning percentages listed in order. Nothing more and nothing less. Like I said, make of it as you will.

Burrow
06-12-2009, 06:12 PM
nalbandian was nowhere near as good in 04/06 as he was in 07. and he still beat him :retard:



GG

:lol: Atleast Nalbandian wasn't on the comeback from a serious injury.

What did Nalbandian do in 07 apart from those two tournaments? Nothing.

In 2004 he went far in Australia and reached semi final at the French Open.

Hardly a big difference.

Even half-strength Safin beat him at the US Open. :lol:

Safin >>> Nalbandian

tennishero
06-12-2009, 06:47 PM
:lol: Atleast Nalbandian wasn't on the comeback from a serious injury.

What did Nalbandian do in 07 apart from those two tournaments? Nothing.

In 2004 he went far in Australia and reached semi final at the French Open.

Hardly a big difference.

Even half-strength Safin beat him at the US Open. :lol:

Safin >>> Nalbandian

lol u lost the indoor arguemnt, now ur changing subject to other surfaces, either way both players at their best Nalbandian > Safin.

Burrow
06-12-2009, 08:07 PM
How did I change the subject? The only thing was the US Open match I mentioned, you seem to think that Safin is the same player now as he was 2005 and prior :lol:

and at your last comment :spit:

Everko
11-01-2009, 03:45 PM
nobody this ytear

Sophocles
11-01-2009, 03:55 PM
Open era McEnroe, followed by Lendl, Becker, Sampras, Connors. All time you'd have to include Gonzales, Laver, and Rosewall.

petar_pan
11-01-2009, 04:01 PM
Open era McEnroe, followed by Lendl, Becker, Sampras, Connors. All time you'd have to include Gonzales, Laver, and Rosewall.

you forgott ivanisevic

Start da Game
11-01-2009, 04:58 PM
i will set the matters straight........hell it's sampras, lendl, becker and nalbandian........becker's serve used to take a hit(due to his peculiar action) even in slightly windy conditions........playing indoors, all those external factors are out of the equation and we have becker at his best, indoors........sampras is right up there with lendl IMO.......honorable mentions to nalbandian........

Har-Tru
11-01-2009, 05:21 PM
Lendl.

No wind to fuck up his high toss, no sun to blind him, nicely even surface... perfect for the robot from Ostrava.

Start da Game
11-01-2009, 05:29 PM
similar theory can be applied to nalbandian who is more of a craftsman than a ball basher.......not that he cannot play on other surfaces but his brainy (crafty) tennis does suit for indoors perfectly.......he can hit those inside-out backhands and angled forehands with ease playing indoors, as there is no wind.......

for now, he is just a fat buffoon wasting such talent which players like roddick, davydenko and hewitt have been craving for years........

Sapeod
11-01-2009, 05:52 PM
Murray and Soderling will be there in the top 10 soon.

shotgun
11-01-2009, 05:56 PM
Zeballos.

Sapeod
11-01-2009, 06:02 PM
If you say BEST EVER, one has to include Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver in that they played most of their Pro matches indoors. Sampras,Lendl and Becker were also great indoor players. No doubt Roger and Rafa are too, but they don't play that many matches indoors.
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

rocketassist
11-01-2009, 06:33 PM
Indoor tennis nowadays is slow as hell, so all stats go out of the window compared to the past.

Lendl definitely the best.

rocketassist
11-01-2009, 06:35 PM
If you say BEST EVER, one has to include Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver in that they played most of their Pro matches indoors. Sampras,Lendl and Becker were also great indoor players. No doubt Roger and Rafa are too, but they don't play that many matches indoors.

Your tablets are in the post.

Noleta
11-01-2009, 06:52 PM
If you say BEST EVER, one has to include Gonzalez, Rosewall and Laver in that they played most of their Pro matches indoors. Sampras,Lendl and Becker were also great indoor players. No doubt Roger and Rafa are too, but they don't play that many matches indoors.

Maybe,but not on this planet;)

jonathancrane
11-01-2009, 06:56 PM
1) Nadal
2) Murray
3) Del Potro
4) Djokovic
5) Cilic

Burrow
11-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Djokovic has achieved more on every surface than Murray so :shrug:

rocketassist
11-01-2009, 07:15 PM
1) Nadal
2) Murray
3) Del Potro
4) Djokovic
5) Cilic

This.

rocketassist
11-01-2009, 07:16 PM
Djokovic has achieved more on every surface than Murray so :shrug:

Not grass.

Burrow
11-01-2009, 07:23 PM
Not grass.

Well, it's basically even.

Semi's and quarters at Wimbledon for both.

Murray has won Queens (weak arse field)

Djokovic has been runner up at Queens and Halle.

Either way, Djokovic >> Murray, as it stands.

Boboskidaj
11-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Nalbandian hm.. I remember Ljubicic crushed him at an indoor dc match once.

thrust
11-01-2009, 08:41 PM
these days indoor tennis is like clay :o
all carpet courts have virtually disappeared and replace by slow hard courts :yawn:

bring back the ice rinks of the 80's and 90's

TRUE! If we are talking EVER, then Gonzales, Rosewall, Laver, Sampras, Becker, Lendl, McEnroe. Nalbandian is the Mary Pierce of the Men's forum. Great on rare occasions, but very inconsistant and highly overrated here. SORRY!

thrust
11-01-2009, 08:46 PM
1) Nadal
2) Murray
3) Del Potro
4) Djokovic
5) Cilic

This list is a joke, no?

out_here_grindin
11-01-2009, 08:48 PM
This list is a joke, no?

what are you on about?

petar_pan
11-01-2009, 08:50 PM
This list is a joke, no?

this is really a joke.

Haelfix
11-01-2009, 10:36 PM
The problem with carpets is always motivation. A lot of players use them for tank fests so its never quite clear. Sampras for instance.

Generically i'd give the nod to McEnroe as the best indoor player in terms of ideal game for the surface.. Completely dominant when he tried.. Lendl was more consistent and had more longevity, but you always felt that if the tournaments actually meant something, that one of the bigger players (Becker/Sampras) could easily dispatch him by hitting him off the court... Much like what would happen in Wimbledon.

Federer actually was quite dominant on the fast carpets, even early on, but his stats are jilted now b/c so many of them are slower nowdays (which disfavors him).

Sophocles
08-25-2010, 03:33 PM
Okay, how about an all-time Top 10 for this?

1. Richard Gonzales.
2. John McEnroe.
3. Ivan Lendl.
4. Rod Laver.
5. Boris Becker.
6. Pete Sampras.
7. Ken Rosewall.
8. Ilie Nastase.
9. Bjorn Borg.
10. Jimmy Connors.

Then behind them we have:

11. Ellsworth Vines.
12. Jack Kramer.
13. Roger Federer.
14. Frank Segura.
15. Stan Smith.
16. Frank Sedgman.
17. Stefan Edberg.
18. Michael Stich.
19. Arthur Ashe.
20. Lew Hoad.

I put Gonzales first because during the main period of his domination of professional tennis, 2 of the most important pro tournaments - the U.S. Pro & Wembley - were held indoors & Gonzales won the U.S. Pro 7 times indoors & Wembley 4 times (Laver was 3 & 4 + 1 French Pro indoors - it wasn't held indoors until 1963, by which time Gonzales was past it -, and Rosewall 0 & 5, + 4 French Pro indoors). Many of the round-robin tours were also played indoors and Gonzales had an incredible record in these, even against great players many years his junior.

Action Jackson
08-25-2010, 03:35 PM
Lendl was better than McEnroe indoors.

Sophocles
08-25-2010, 03:37 PM
Lendl was better than McEnroe indoors.

Arguably. Mac won more titles though.

Action Jackson
08-25-2010, 03:40 PM
Arguably. Mac won more titles though.

8 TMC finals in a row. He was better for longer and he did have some good competition at the top.

Sophocles
08-25-2010, 03:46 PM
8 TMC finals in a row. He was better for longer and he did have some good competition at the top.

Fair points. Mac was more dominant in his prime though & had enormous competition. I guess it comes down to how much weight you give the Masters as the biggest indoor tournament. In the early 1970s at least the WCT Finals were at least the equal of it. One of the Rosewall-Laver finals still I think holds the record for the biggest T.V. audience for any tennis match. But yeah, it was a toss-up between Lendl & Mac for 2nd place.

Puschkin
08-25-2010, 03:56 PM
Since I started following tennis seriously: Boris Becker!

borracho
08-25-2010, 04:34 PM
Krajicek was an excellent indoor player as well.

Blackbriar
08-25-2010, 04:36 PM
Sébastien Grosjean

Everko
08-25-2010, 05:04 PM
Indoor tennis :rolleyes:. This isn't basketball. I have never been a fan of the indoor tournaments

Sophocles
08-25-2010, 05:21 PM
Indoor tennis :rolleyes:. This isn't basketball. I have never been a fan of the indoor tournaments

Some of the best tennis ever played has been indoors. Becker-Sampras in Hanover, Gonzales-Sedgman at Wembley, Federer-Nadal in Shanghai. Just because Nadal is usually shit indoors. :rolleyes:

Persimmon
08-25-2010, 06:04 PM
McEnroe.

Johnny Groove
08-25-2010, 06:07 PM
No love for Bill Tilden, Sophocles?

Sophocles
08-25-2010, 06:15 PM
No love for Bill Tilden, Sophocles?

Yes, but he didn't play indoors much, as far as I know, or at least, doesn't appear to have won many big tournaments once he turned pro. Obviously he was a bit past it by then.

V.H.
08-25-2010, 06:47 PM
What are the rankings for most indoor (hard/carpet) tournament wins?

Check it out here (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=10117246&postcount=29)

As of today:

Won RU's Finals Winning %
Jimmy Connors 53 22 75 70,7 %
John McEnroe 52 17 69 75,4 %
Ivan Lendl 42 20 62 67,7 %
Boris Becker 30 12 42 71,4 %
Bjorn Borg 23 13 36 63,9 %
Pete Sampras 23 8 31 74,2 %
Arthur Ashe 21 18 39 53,8 %
Stan Smith 20 8 28 71,4 %
Stefan Edberg 18 12 30 60,0 %
Ilie Nastase 16 14 30 53,3 %
Brian Gottfried 15 14 29 51,7 %
Goran Ivanisevic 15 8 23 65,2 %
Roger Federer 13 8 21 61,9 %
Rod Laver 13 7 20 65,0 %
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 12 11 23 52,2 %
Michael Chang 12 10 22 54,5 %
Wojtek Fibak 12 9 21 57,1 %
Andre Agassi 12 8 20 60,0 %
Thomas Enqvist 11 1 12 91,7 %
Tom Okker 10 8 18 55,6 %
Marc Rosset 10 3 13 76,9 %
.............
David Nalbandian 5 5 10 50,0 %

Sophocles
12-21-2011, 12:38 PM
Okay, how about an all-time Top 10 for this?

1. Richard Gonzales.
2. John McEnroe.
3. Ivan Lendl.
4. Rod Laver.
5. Boris Becker.
6. Pete Sampras.
7. Ken Rosewall.
8. Ilie Nastase.
9. Bjorn Borg.
10. Jimmy Connors.

Then behind them we have:

11. Ellsworth Vines.
12. Jack Kramer.
13. Roger Federer.
14. Frank Segura.
15. Stan Smith.
16. Frank Sedgman.
17. Stefan Edberg.
18. Michael Stich.
19. Arthur Ashe.
20. Lew Hoad.

I put Gonzales first because during the main period of his domination of professional tennis, 2 of the most important pro tournaments - the U.S. Pro & Wembley - were held indoors & Gonzales won the U.S. Pro 7 times indoors & Wembley 4 times (Laver was 3 & 4 + 1 French Pro indoors - it wasn't held indoors until 1963, by which time Gonzales was past it -, and Rosewall 0 & 5, + 4 French Pro indoors). Many of the round-robin tours were also played indoors and Gonzales had an incredible record in these, even against great players many years his junior.

I'm still fairly happy with these rankings, but after another dominant indoor season by Federer perhaps he should be moved up a place or two. These (Open-Era) statistics from the ATP web-site are instructive, the relevant columns being the 4th (winning ratio), 5th (tournaments won), & 6th (win-losse record):

1. John McEnroe .000 0 0-0 .853 51 419-72
2. Ivan Lendl .000 0 0-0 .829 41 344-71
3. Jimmy Connors .000 0 0-0 .817 52 460-103
4. Bjorn Borg .000 0 0-0 .808 23 215-51
5. Roger Federer 1.000 3 16-0 .807 19 213-51
6. Boris Becker .000 0 0-0 .798 30 297-75
7. Arthur Ashe .000 0 0-0 .791 21 265-70
8. Andy Murray .769 1 10-3 .781 9 89-25
9. Pete Sampras .000 0 0-0 .777 23 213-61
10. Rod Laver .000 0 0-0 .768 14 136-41
11. Robin Soderling 1.000 2 10-0 .740 7 114-40
12. Andy Roddick .727 1 8-3 .732 7 134-49
13. David Nalbandian 1.000 0 3-0 .725 5 87-33
14. Stan Smith .000 0 0-0 .722 20 239-92
15. Brian Gottfried .000 0 0-0 .719 15 279-109
16. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga .769 2 20-6 .719 5 64-25
17. Novak Djokovic .600 0 6-4 .718 5 84-33
18. Lleyton Hewitt .714 0 5-2 .717 4 71-28
19. Stefan Edberg .000 0 0-0 .712 18 257-104
20. John Newcombe .000 0 0-0 .703 7 83-35
21. Andre Agassi .000 0 0-0 .697 11 168-73
22. Gene Mayer .000 0 0-0 .695 8 146-64
23. Vitas Gerulaitis .000 0 0-0 .690 8 220-99
24. Yevgeny Kafelnikov .000 0 0-0 .689 12 235-106
25. Michael Stich .000 0 0-0 .686 9 129-59
26. Gael Monfils .786 1 11-3 .680 3 66-31
27. Goran Ivanisevic .000 0 0-0 .677 15 226-108
28. Tom Okker .000 0 0-0 .674 10 182-88
29. Tim Henman .000 0 0-0 .674 6 147-71
30. Sandy Mayer .000 0 0-0 .672 8 164-80
31. Guillermo Vilas .000 0 0-0 .669 6 117-58
32. Ken Rosewall .000 0 0-0 .669 5 111-55
33. Ilie Nastase .000 0 0-0 .667 16 242-121
34. Michael Chang .000 0 0-0 .667 12 188-94
35. Greg Rusedski .000 0 0-0 .662 6 157-80
36. Yannick Noah .000 0 0-0 .659 9 141-73
37. Anders Jarryd .000 0 0-0 .658 6 192-100
38. Marcos Baghdatis .667 0 12-6 .655 2 55-29
39. Magnus Larsson .000 0 0-0 .654 5 104-55
40. Eddie Dibbs .000 0 0-0 .653 7 156-83
41. Tim Mayotte .000 0 0-0 .651 8 138-74
42. Marcelo Rios .000 0 0-0 .650 4 67-36
43. Richard Krajicek .000 0 0-0 .646 8 115-63
44. Brad Gilbert .000 0 0-0 .644 7 170-94
45. Tommy Haas .500 0 3-3 .642 5 129-72
46. Rafael Nadal .714 0 5-2 .642 1 52-29
47. Petr Korda .000 0 0-0 .641 4 150-84
48. Jim Courier .000 0 0-0 .641 5 132-74
49. Ivan Ljubicic .643 0 9-5 .638 6 150-85
50. Mark Philippoussis .000 0 0-0 .638 5 83-47

Federer's win-loss ratio is right up there with the very best, suggesting the main reason he is signfiicantly behind on tournaments won is just that there are fewer indoor tournaments today.

EDIT: Come to think of it, the main reason I put Nastase so high is his 4 Masters wins, those being the most important indoor tournaments, but as Fed has now won 4 of those indoors & more tournaments overall AND has a far better winning percentage, he clearly should be ahead. If he goes in at No. 8, Nastase, Borg, & Connors have to fight it out for the remaining 2 Top 10 places.

TheBoiledEgg
12-22-2011, 07:16 AM
Arguably. Mac won more titles though.

Most of McEnroe/Connors titles were in the Roddick category.

TennisOnWood
12-22-2011, 09:23 AM
Most of McEnroe/Connors titles were in the Roddick category.

Connors won Denver WCT in 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1980. He won Wembley two times and World's Indoor Championship in Philadelphia 1976, 1978, 1979 and 1980. With Masters in 1977. I think this were GREAT Indoor tournaments

nalbyfan
12-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Nalby is the real indoor king , other are nothing compared to him

Chirag
12-22-2011, 01:53 PM
Nalby is the real indoor king of mars , other are nothing compared to him

exactly but just like to add not on this planet