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München R1: Lleyton Hewitt def. Philipp Petzschner 6-2 6-7(2)7-6(8)

ClaudiuS
05-05-2009, 05:52 PM
Well done for Hewitt :) It was a tough match to handle.

Smoke944
05-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Petzschner had it and choked, expected one though.

Johnny Groove
05-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Damn, Hewitt, at least you got through it.

Gretchen.
05-05-2009, 05:53 PM
:bigclap: 500 career wins for Lleyton :woohoo:

ClaudiuS
05-05-2009, 05:55 PM
Petzschner blew a match point in the TB also. But I'm not sure if he wasted a couple more before.

asmazif
05-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Phew, on sixth MP.

kloppy
05-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point. Petzchner breaks back to make it 5-all and eventually takes the set in a tie-break. Lucky escape in the end.

Hagar
05-05-2009, 05:57 PM
YES! Lleyton won a tiebreak AND his 500th match! Way to go, Lleyton! He worked hard to show that he deserved the wildcard.

Certinfy
05-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Great ending :) I thought Hewitt was gonna lose after Petzschner held serve and saved 3 MP's to make in 5-5 in the 3rd set, but luckily he didn't :)

Gretchen.
05-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Petzschner blew a match point in the TB also. But I'm not sure if he wasted a couple more before.

I think he had 3 in the tie break and one was on his serve :lol:

Hagar
05-05-2009, 06:00 PM
Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point. Petzchner breaks back to make it 5-all and eventually takes the set in a tie-break. Lucky escape in the end.

WOW. But not surprising as Lleyton would rather lose the match than receiving a point he does not deserve.

ClaudiuS
05-05-2009, 06:00 PM
I think he had 3 in the tie break and one was on his serve :lol:

duude :o

aussie_fan
05-05-2009, 06:00 PM
Phew, on sixth MP.

i counted 7

2 at 5-4 in the 2nd set
3 at 5-4 in the third
1 at 8-7 in the TB
then the evenutall winning one

JMG
05-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point. Petzchner breaks back to make it 5-all and eventually takes the set in a tie-break. Lucky escape in the end.

Are you crazy? He didn't do that at all. Hewitt said it was long.

JMG
05-05-2009, 06:02 PM
It was 7 mps vs 2 mps.

Björki
05-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Lleyton :yeah:

habibko
05-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point. Petzchner breaks back to make it 5-all and eventually takes the set in a tie-break. Lucky escape in the end.

that's the definition of good Karma :yeah:

Fumus
05-05-2009, 06:05 PM
500 wins and he's no where near the player he was when he got his 300th win.

JMG
05-05-2009, 06:05 PM
that's the definition of good Karma :yeah:

The umpire overruled right after the line call.

Truc
05-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Exactly, the line judge called the ball out on MP, Hewitt was already on his way to the net, the chair umpire overruled, then there was a never-ending discussion at the line. Why would they discuss for ever if Hewitt wanted to give Petzsche the point? Are you saying the chair umpire was trying to convince Hewitt that the ball was out? :confused:

kloppy
05-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Are you crazy? He didn't do that at all. Hewitt said it was long.
Lol, yeah that's why Petzchner came to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, and why the linesman called it out, and why the commentators kept saying that Hewitt's generosity may cost him. Oh dear...

HeretiC
05-05-2009, 06:08 PM
500 win for Llegs :clap2: It was quite a shocker of a match. Hewitt could have done it in straights, having 2 MPs on his serve but he he bit tentative on them dropping short balls and Philip was kinda thinking that he would lose this match anyway and did some hard had hitting with his FH on most of them. He saved it and won the TB comfortably. Hewitt again had a break in the decider but he blew it again. And again he had 3 more MPs on Petzschner serve and same story again, some big serves and FH from him while LLegs hitting too short. In TB more shocks, first Lleyton goes down a mini break, it was *2:5 and that was the first time Petzschner realized he is about to win this match and started to play nervously. He still managed to have 2 MPs but Hewitt saved them, and he won the match on his 7th MP with horrible FH put away error from Phillip.

FlavorNuts
05-05-2009, 06:09 PM
WOW. But not surprising as Lleyton would rather lose the match than receiving a point he does not deserve.hahaha

Are you crazy? He didn't do that at all. Hewitt said it was long.That sounds more like it.

Truc
05-05-2009, 06:10 PM
Lol, yeah that's why Petzchner came to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, and why the linesman made no call, and why the commentators kept saying that Hewitt's generosity may cost him. Oh dear...Of course Petzschner came to the net, the ball had been called out.

How did your commentators explain the never-ending discussion then?

FlavorNuts
05-05-2009, 06:11 PM
bad loss for Petzschner losing to a player with no weapons.

JMG
05-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Lol, yeah that's why Petzchner came to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, and why the linesman called it out, and why the commentators kept saying that Hewitt's generosity may cost him. Oh dear...

I think Petzschner came to the net, because Hewitt said the mark is out. He asked the umpire to check the mark, after it was called 40-30.

BaselineSmash
05-05-2009, 06:17 PM
Just about sums Petzschner up. A quality big hitter whose best stuff usually escapes him, so much so that in this match he needed a bit of luck to keep him in it.

Raquel
05-05-2009, 06:18 PM
Well done Lleyton on win #500 :D :yeah:

Acer
05-05-2009, 06:20 PM
Yay

RGK
05-05-2009, 06:21 PM
OT:
which matches will be tomorrow in Munchen? help.

kloppy
05-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Of course Petzschner came to the net, the ball had been called out.

How did your commentators explain the never-ending discussion then?
Never-ending discussion?? it lasted about 40 seconds. Hewitt was adamant the ball touched and was simply being honest. Besides, he still had a match point up his sleeve and thought the match would be over the next point anyway. The commentators mentioned it about 100 times throughout the third set.

fast_clay
05-05-2009, 06:25 PM
do it rock

JMG
05-05-2009, 06:26 PM
Never-ending discussion?? it lasted about 40 seconds. Hewitt was adamant the ball touched and was simply being honest. Besides, he still had a match point up his sleeve and thought the match would be over the next point anyway. The commentators mentioned it about 100 times throughout the third set.

Why did Hewitt ask the umpire to check the mark then, although he had already called it "40-30"? :lol:

Truc
05-05-2009, 06:28 PM
Which commentators are you talking about, kloppy? The Betfair ones?

tennisfan444
05-05-2009, 06:38 PM
:)

kloppy
05-05-2009, 06:39 PM
I watched on atdhe.net. It was obvious to both commentators and myself what occured and i'm not sure what some other people saw. :confused:

And no, there was no over-rule. Petzchner wouldn't have come to the net and waited there to shake Hewitt's hand if the umpire called the ball in. :lol:

Snoo Foo
05-05-2009, 08:38 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/28/fullj.17ba3d1645f7532224da9d55bc6304b0/17ba3d1645f7532224da9d55bc6304b0-getty-86364557ah067_bmw_open_by_f.jpg

what would they have done with this cake if petzschner won?

asmazif
05-05-2009, 08:41 PM
what would they have done with this cake if petzschner won?

altered the numbers to 170.

ChinoRios4Ever
05-05-2009, 08:43 PM
A win is a win :o

Snoo Foo
05-05-2009, 08:45 PM
altered the numbers to 170.

:lol:

StanisKing
05-05-2009, 09:41 PM
I thought that after wasting all those MP in the second set and at 5:4 in the third, Lleyton will lose.
Petzchner slice as always was very good.

HeretiC
05-05-2009, 10:57 PM
I watched on atdhe.net. It was obvious to both commentators and myself what occured and i'm not sure what some other people saw. :confused:

And no, there was no over-rule. Petzchner wouldn't have come to the net and waited there to shake Hewitt's hand if the umpire called the ball in. :lol:

Wrong, there was an over-rule and Petzchner came to the net to check the mark and situation. It was a similar situation at SP in the first set and then the judge ruled the point to be replayed.

I thought that after wasting all those MP in the second set and at 5:4 in the third, Lleyton will lose.
Petzchner slice as always was very good.

All his shots were kind of a lousy in the first 4-5 games but after that he reduced the UEs and that no pace deep slice gave all sorts of a problems to a counter-puncher like Hewitt. He made a few excellent volley too, but to be fair it would have been such a shame if Hewitt lost cause he was the better player overall and up in front almost all of the time.

betowiec
05-05-2009, 11:33 PM
congrats Lleyton

Machiavelli
05-06-2009, 07:47 AM
Petzschner is the worst player who somehow sneaked out an ATP title, that 1st set was not even futures level set, disgusting tennis, how anyone can lose to a guy that has no bh at all is beyond me...

Lleyton should have demolished him in two easy sets...

HeretiC
05-06-2009, 08:18 AM
500 is a big number. I think only Federer and Moya have over 500 wins among the active players. Roddick will get there as well this year.

Josh.
05-06-2009, 08:23 AM
Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point. Petzchner breaks back to make it 5-all and eventually takes the set in a tie-break. Lucky escape in the end.

Atta boy. :yeah:

el tenista
05-06-2009, 08:30 AM
Petzschner is the worst player who somehow sneaked out an ATP title, that 1st set was not even futures level set, disgusting tennis, how anyone can lose to a guy that has no bh at all is beyond me...

Lleyton should have demolished him in two easy sets...

Of course! :rolleyes:
He should, but he did not. So Petzschner must have played tennis that was maybe not that worse! I only watched the last games but how he handled to save the match points at *4-5 was amazing.
His slice must be that good that it is good enough to beat good players as we saw in Vienna last year.
You speak of "anyone" when talking about people who MUST beat him because he has no BH. So you would beat him I guess?

Tennislover3001
05-06-2009, 09:20 AM
:) On ya Hewitt.

Truc
05-06-2009, 11:43 AM
I watched on atdhe.net. It was obvious to both commentators and myself what occured and i'm not sure what some other people saw. :confused:

And no, there was no over-rule. Petzchner wouldn't have come to the net and waited there to shake Hewitt's hand if the umpire called the ball in. :lol:The match is online now, I just watched it again to be sure:
http://www.tennislive.tv/turniere/bmw-open/bmw-open-by-fwu-ag-hewitt-vs-petzschner
It's around 1'18. You can hear very clearly the line judge calling the ball out and the chair umpire immediately saying "Correction, it was good".
Hewitt, who is already going to the net to shake Petzsche's hand, shows the chair umpire the mark to say it was long, and since the chair umpire maintains it was in, he goes back to the baseline to check the mark, the chair umpire comes to show him why the ball was in in his opinion, they discuss for a while and Hewitt finally resumes the play.

Hewitt's behaviour is fine, he accepts the decision at the end and gets over it, but your version is wrong.

JMG
05-06-2009, 04:13 PM
Of course! :rolleyes:
He should, but he did not. So Petzschner must have played tennis that was maybe not that worse! I only watched the last games but how he handled to save the match points at *4-5 was amazing.
His slice must be that good that it is good enough to beat good players as we saw in Vienna last year.
You speak of "anyone" when talking about people who MUST beat him because he has no BH. So you would beat him I guess?

It was a good match, one of the best so far this week. Petzschner hit a lot of forehand winners (and even some backhand winners) after the bad start. There are some people who have/had the same opinion in Vienna and backed Hernych, then backed Moya @1.50, then backed Lopez etc. and are still angry because of that. I don't know if this is what happened in Machiavelli's case.

The match is online now, I just watched it again to be sure:
http://www.tennislive.tv/turniere/bmw-open/bmw-open-by-fwu-ag-hewitt-vs-petzschner
It's around 1'18. You can hear very clearly the line judge calling the ball out and the chair umpire immediately saying "Correction, it was good".
Hewitt, who is already going to the net to shake Petzsche's hand, shows the chair umpire the mark to say it was long, and since the chair umpire says it was in, he goes back to the baseline to check the mark, the chair umpire comes to show him why the ball was in in his opinion, they discuss for a while and Hewitt finally resumes the play.

Hewitt's behaviour is fine, he accepts the decision at the end and gets over it, but your version is wrong.

Wow, on tv I thought he said 40-30, but it even was a classic "correction ball was good" overrule. How in hell can someone get the idea that Hewitt overruled the umpire? The pictures alone are telling the whole story, you don't even need the sound to understand it.

Voo de Mar
05-07-2009, 02:23 AM
:eek:

madlove
05-07-2009, 02:29 AM
Good to see Hewitt win these tough matches.

fast_clay
05-07-2009, 02:39 AM
hewitt invented the word tough...

ClaudiuS
05-07-2009, 02:41 AM
hewitt invented the word tough...

along with Massu. :)

But Hewitt is more effective about it :o

fast_clay
05-07-2009, 02:50 AM
massu also invented the words: torture, pain, sick and sado masochism...

ClaudiuS
05-07-2009, 02:55 AM
massu also invented the words: torture, pain, sick and sado masochism...

He's like an actor from a SAW movie inside a tennis court.

Machiavelli
05-07-2009, 06:57 AM
It was a good match, one of the best so far this week. Petzschner hit a lot of forehand winners (and even some backhand winners) after the bad start. There are some people who have/had the same opinion in Vienna and backed Hernych, then backed Moya @1.50, then backed Lopez etc. and are still angry because of that. I don't know if this is what happened in Machiavelli's case.


That tournament was dreadful at the start, but got on the picasso train on time to cover my losses, one week in your life when you can't miss a thing; some here may think i have something against german players, way wrong, back in the days i was a huge Becker and STich fan, it is sad to see there are no germans able to compete at the top level, Kohli is too cocky to ever string it together, Haas and Kiwi are finished (maybe one good run in them still left);

IMo watching Petzschner play, as an amateur player myself, you get the felling that anybody can produce what he does, that 1st set against Lleyton was horrendous tennis(not even futures level), for a doubles specialist he has a weak 1st serve percentage, not too effective serve, he is good at the net, but Hewitt was serving all 2nd serves and Picasso not able to do shiet, that says it all, not to talk about his bh, whic is non-existing, his slice is solid but way overrated by fanboys like JMG; a solid player should never ever have problems with Petzschner, his game is so easy to exploit, one fluke run in Vienna does not change that....

Geo
05-07-2009, 07:05 AM
good win for Hewitt, and I'm happy to hear about his act of good sportsmanship :yeah:

Komodo
05-07-2009, 01:23 PM
good win for Hewitt, and I'm happy to hear about his act of good sportsmanship

Can everybody please stop repeating this nonsense like they were stupid parrots?

I was watching that match in the stadium, and there was no good nor BAD sportsmanship involved in that point, and Hewitt certainly didn't give away anything.

Petzschner hit a long ball, Hewitt wanted it out, the chair umpire checked the mark and thought that it touched the baseline, Hewitt tried to convince him that the mark is OUT for about a minute, and then failed to grab his next match point at 40-30 and eventually lost the set in the tiebreak.

Note that there were several ball mark discussions between Hewitt and the umpire, just like the one at match point.
But he is definitely entitled to argue over a close ball mark, so no problem.

To the guy that wrote that Petznschner has nothing special and no backhand: The guy can play a huge game with fh when he decides to go for it, and it looks damn good when it works.