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Richie will be back! WOoooooooohhHHOOooooo!!!!!

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Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:23 PM
Omg he double faults on break point!!

It's 5-1 Rochus :eek:



Lesser known Rochus at that...


Remember in 2005 in Hamburg when Richard used to beat guys like this on clay 6-1, 6-1?

How things have changed since then.... :(

Schu
04-22-2009, 05:24 PM
WTH Richie! I check the score and it's 1-5! Glad I can't see this. Get in gear.

Lost it in 25 minutes :o What's wrong with him now!

Renaud
04-22-2009, 05:26 PM
Wtf ??!

Renaud
04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
Ok probably he wants more practicing before his match against Nadal.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Ok probably he wants more practicing before his match against Nadal.

He should forget about match against Nadal if he is losing a set 6-1 to C. Rochus

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 05:30 PM
Lesser known Rochus at that...


Remember in 2005 in Hamburg when Richard used to beat guys like this on clay 6-1, 6-1?

How things have changed since then.... :(

Yes I do!! I remember his match against Seppi! He destroyed him

Where has that Richie gone?? :sad:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:30 PM
What the hell is going on over there! :eek: Come on Rich.. I have a French exam and math quiz and I can't concentrate if you are LOSING! :fiery:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:33 PM
I am PISSED! :mad:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 05:34 PM
OMG WTH is going on??

Do you think he's in pain....:sad:

bakeroo
04-22-2009, 05:34 PM
ive just got home and seeing gasquet well losing badly .
think i might just go back out again

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:35 PM
ive just got home and seeing gasquet well losing badly .
think i might just go back out again

:lol: Take me with you.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:37 PM
Richard is barely winning any points on his second serve... while Rochus is winning 67%... that tells me that he is getting completely dominated from the baseline. And if that is the case against perhaps the weakest player in the draw, then Richard is in much bigger trouble than we all thought.

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 05:37 PM
I just wish we could actually see what is going wrong for Ritchie:sobbing:

I hope he's OK physically at least:scared:

I just got the stats up..oh dear.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:38 PM
Yes I do!! I remember his match against Seppi! He destroyed him

Where has that Richie gone?? :sad:


That Richard is probably gone forever... frankly, right now I would settle for 30% of THAT Richard... but not this...

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 05:40 PM
Just got online to see that Richie is down 6-1 2-1 to Rochus?! :fiery: I hope he's not having any physical problems:unsure:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:41 PM
It can't be the shoulder... he's got 6 aces and 1 DF. :confused:

Bashak
04-22-2009, 05:42 PM
is anyone actually watching this? Is he injured?

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:44 PM
It can't be the shoulder... he's got 6 aces and 1 DF. :confused:

Actually from the stats it looks like serving is one area where he is more or less ok.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 05:44 PM
27% of points won on second serve again. Please tell me he is working on that. I take the mick out of Andy Murray's second serve but it is solid by comparison.

Schu
04-22-2009, 05:44 PM
Richard is barely winning any points on his second serve... while Rochus is winning 67%... that tells me that he is getting completely dominated from the baseline. And if that is the case against perhaps the weakest player in the draw, then Richard is in much bigger trouble than we all thought.

He is obviously playing like crap but we don't need the drama queen here - it isn't the end of the world.

We got no idea what's going on but whatever it is it's not good. Maybe he should just hide until grass.

Now there ya see, he broke... too bad he can't hold serve to save his life.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:45 PM
OK... looks like he's trying to make a comeback.

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 05:46 PM
7 aces:lol: So definitely not the shoulder then...

Maybe Rochus is playing out of his mind?:help::lol:

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 05:46 PM
He got the break back,there's some hope now;) Allez Ritchie:

3-2-he's got some momentum going here now.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 05:46 PM
I think Richie just wants me to watch him livescore rather than go to the gym. C'mon RIchie turn this match around I want to watch you play Nadal tomorrow. If you have to get thrashed I would rather Rafa does it because he beats everyone on clay so no disrespect there.

Schu
04-22-2009, 05:48 PM
Actually from the stats it looks like serving is one area where he is more or less ok.

WEll winning 25% of second serves in the first set in not really O.K. but he seems to be picking it up a bit in the second set. And he held again - 2 in a row.

Schu
04-22-2009, 05:50 PM
7 aces:lol: So definitely not the shoulder then...

Maybe Rochus is playing out of his mind?:help::lol:

Players have a way of doing that against Richard. :D

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:51 PM
He is obviously playing like crap but we don't need the drama queen here - it isn't the end of the world.

We got no idea what's going on but whatever it is it's not good. Maybe he should just hide until grass.

Now there ya see, he broke... too bad he can't hold serve to save his life.



I am not going to pretend and say that this is just one time case when he is playing like crap... when it happens against Ferrer or Verdasco, it is ok (well, not really) since well they are better players now.. but this is Freaking C. Rochus!! Not even Olivier Rochus! That's why this is so upsetting and I don't care that this is just his second match on clay.. Rochus lost his first two matches on clay this year 2-6, 2-6 and 2-6, 3-6. One of them was to Lisnard!!!

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 05:51 PM
WEll winning 25% of second serves in the first set in not really O.K. but he seems to be picking it up a bit in the second set. And he held again - 2 in a row.


You're saying this like it's a helluva accomplishment :spit:


And unfortunately it's true :sad:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:52 PM
Mahesh and Mark made a comeback and you can too Richie!

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 05:53 PM
He makes me so mad my language is turning the air blue here.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Break him!

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 05:54 PM
WEll winning 25% of second serves in the first set in not really O.K. but he seems to be picking it up a bit in the second set. And he held again - 2 in a row.

I am talking about effectiveness of first serve...on second serves, players usually are not trying to win a point outright, but rather get it in and start more or less safe and neutral rally...

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:00 PM
come on Richie hold.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:04 PM
Break him you asshole! :mad:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:06 PM
Break him you asshole! :mad:

OMG Dani I'm in class you can't make me laugh :haha:

But yes why isn't Richie breaking him :mad:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:07 PM
Sorry.. but when my players make me mad, I react by calling them names. :lol: I remember one time I was watching Andy and I called him a no-talent giraffe, tripping over his own feet. :rolls:

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:08 PM
Break him you asshole! :mad:

Couldn't have said it better!

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:09 PM
:haha: :rolls:

OMG I'm seriously cracking up now....and Richie keeps playing like some stupid junior :mad:

lisaplenske
04-22-2009, 06:12 PM
omg how bad gasquet became if compared to 4 years ago when he used to beat those kind of players 1 and 1

I m tired about all this crap

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:14 PM
Break right here!

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:14 PM
Set point!!

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:15 PM
:o

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:15 PM
Sp!!!!!!!

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:15 PM
"Break him you asshole" times 2 right now!

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
omg WTF?? how hard is to break Rochus??? :mad:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
I have seen this man play.. this is not the player you struggle with let alone lose to. :tape: :help:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:17 PM
and x 3

oh Richie ffs

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:17 PM
I have theory that court 3 is too small for Richie to stand 10 million miles behind the baseline and it is ruining his mojo

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:19 PM
This is disgusting I would rather focus on my school work than follow this crap :mad:

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 06:20 PM
I know Amira, it's so frustrating.:(

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh dear.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:20 PM
This is disgusting I would rather focus on my school work than follow this crap :mad:

heehee. So true. Richie really needs to come on here and see what torture he is subjecting his fans to. Richie you have no pressure noone expects you to beat Nadal but you could at least beat bloody Rochus.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:21 PM
As I said before, Richard needs to head to challengers... there is no end in sight to this misery without some kind of change or shake up. It is hard to even comprehend how badly he must be playing right now. :(:(

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:21 PM
what the hell just happened my scoreboard said 6-5 and has now gone back to 5-5. And he fucking double faults.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:22 PM
what the hell just happened my scoreboard said 6-5 and has now gone back to 5-5. And he fucking double faults.

Probably checked the mark and then overruled and replayed the point which Richard decided to double fault.

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:23 PM
omg how bad gasquet became if compared to 4 years ago when he used to beat those kind of players 1 and 1

I m tired about all this crap

I'm sure he is too!

He is what he is and no use wishing for what used to be. He can only move on from where he is now and not what used to be.

Meanwhile he's giving me a freakin' heartattack. Hold your damn serve.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:23 PM
Tori I know what you mean! I don't really expect him to beat Nadal but I do want him to at least give him a challenge but he can't even beat Rochus....sheish la weish :rolleyes:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:24 PM
I'm not expecting him to be Nadal but to win against average players yup I expect that. It isn't unreasonable if he doesn't expect that of himself then he needs a sports psychologist and a slap round the face.

lisaplenske
04-22-2009, 06:24 PM
As I said before, Richard needs to head to challengers... there is no end in sight to this misery without some kind of change or shake up. It is hard to even comprehend how badly he must be playing right now. :(:(


yes I exactly thing the same. Go and play lower tournaments cause right now he's just not playing as a top100
better not come in roland garros if he play like that.I m serious when I say that.

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 06:24 PM
Richie is trying very hard to get broken now, I can see him saying to Christophe, please break me but Christophe is saying "you got to be kidding, like I want Nadal to kick my arse tomorrow."

Hold at last. :/

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 06:26 PM
Come on Ritchie:bounce:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:27 PM
I'm not expecting him to be Nadal but to win against average players yup I expect that. It isn't unreasonable if he doesn't expect that of himself then he needs a sports psychologist and a slap round the face.

I think he needs a real big slap more than the psychologist :o

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:27 PM
Richie is trying very hard to get broken now, I can see him saying to Christophe, please break me but Christophe is saying "you got to be kidding, like I want Nadal to kick my arse tomorrow."





It is all bloody ranking points though get to 3rd round and let Nadal kick his ass. It is expected. Does anyone expect Richie to get a set off Nadal on clay?! Genuinely.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:28 PM
I think he needs a real big slap more than the psychologist :o

I will have to avoid meeting him because I may be arrested.

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 06:28 PM
Vlad he's not even aloud in challengers with his current ranking.:p But then again, if he keeps playing like this, soon enough he will be aloud...

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:30 PM
I will have to avoid meeting him because I may be arrested.

:lol:

Honestly I think Richie needs a new coach...it's not that I have something against Peyre but I just don't think he is a good stern coach. You know he needs someone that will be mean and teach him to listen and stop messing around if he wants to do something with his career! :mad:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:30 PM
Vlad he's not even aloud in challengers with his current ranking.:p But then again, if he keeps playing like this, soon enough he will be aloud...

He won't though cos at the moment he is like 20 in the race isn't he and thats without playing for ages. Everyone around that ranking is struggling at the moment.

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 06:31 PM
It is all bloody ranking points though get to 3rd round and let Nadal kick his ass. It is expected. Does anyone expect Richie to get a set off Nadal on clay?! Genuinely.

Well no. But come on, even Muzza got spanked by Rafa:lol:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:31 PM
oh shit tie break :rolleyes:

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 06:32 PM
It is all bloody ranking points though get to 3rd round and let Nadal kick his ass. It is expected. Does anyone expect Richie to get a set off Nadal on clay?! Genuinely.

Yeah, I know, and of course I don't expect him to get a set off Nadal. Lord knows, he can't even kick Christophe Rochus and Jan Hernych's asses like he should.

Win this tiebreak Richie, seriously.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Well no. But come on, even Muzza got spanked by Rafa:lol:

yeah but Muzza is number 4 in the world and has actually beaten Rafa....and plus he beat players that he should have beaten on clay :o

lisaplenske
04-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Vlad he's not even aloud in challengers with his current ranking.:p But then again, if he keeps playing like this, soon enough he will be aloud...


well I think his actual level deserves only challengers not better and a slap in the face would relieve me I admit:lol::devil:

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 06:34 PM
He won't though cos at the moment he is like 20 in the race isn't he and thats without playing for ages. Everyone around that ranking is struggling at the moment.

Yeah that's true as well I guess. I really don't like the new ranking system,but hey what can you do...


5-2 :bounce:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:35 PM
well I think his actual level deserves only challengers not better and a slap in the face would relieve me I admit:lol::devil:

Bless him I wonder who else has fans that want to slap him.

Well I want to slap Nalby as well, Safin?

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:36 PM
I think Safin needs a kick in the ass not a slap in the face ;)

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:36 PM
As I said before, Richard needs to head to challengers... there is no end in sight to this misery without some kind of change or shake up. It is hard to even comprehend how badly he must be playing right now. :(:(

YEs it is but is playing in challengers going to make him play better? If he can deal with the "misery" and embarrassment so should we or stop watching him. But if he keeps this up he'll not be getting in main draws soon so challengers it will be. Damn we have some negative vibes on here today - perhaps not without reason but everyone just chill.

OH Hell, I can't to "watch" this TB.

Jozie
04-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Please let's not despair just yet.... 4 set points.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:37 PM
YES he did it...OMG now please just take the last set 6-0

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:38 PM
Phew!

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:38 PM
no chance he will lose his serve at least once just to scare the crap out of us.

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 06:39 PM
A set. :)
I think a 6-0, 6-1 or 6-2 set will go someway to appease me now, Richard. :p

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:39 PM
Also, I think Richie might be playing in an empty court... two Spaniards are doing battle on Pista Central. :lol:

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 06:40 PM
Yay,never in doubt that this was going 3 sets:p

Allez Ritchie:bounce:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:41 PM
Oh man, can't believe I have to go through another set. :lol:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:41 PM
never in doubt indeed.

Allez Richie.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:43 PM
Most optimistic thing about second set is that Richard now winning more second serve points than Rochus.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:45 PM
Fucking break point what did I say

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:46 PM
omg break point?!?!? Richard :mad:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:46 PM
and he loses his serve

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 06:47 PM
and it's BP for Rochus :rolleyes:

EDIT: FUCK!!:mad:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:47 PM
and he gets broken :bigcry:

I don't wanna follow this anymore :mad:

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 06:47 PM
Oh boy, I meant 6-0 to you, Richard. Not vice versa.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:47 PM
:fiery: Freaking ape!

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:49 PM
YES he did it...OMG now please just take the last set 6-0

It could still be 6-0.... :(:(:(:(:(

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:49 PM
Most optimistic thing about second set is that Richard now winning more second serve points than Rochus.

Now that wasn't so bad to find something nice to say was it :D

Oh shit - here we go again - broken to start the 3rd with 2 first serves in!!!

Might be 6-0 but the wrong way:o

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 06:49 PM
Well I didn't expect this score to Rochus in the decider..rather the opposite. Come on Ritchie,keep fighting;)

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:51 PM
I wonder what Peyre thinks of this?? :mad: :scratch:

Nichele Hull
04-22-2009, 06:51 PM
Rochus is breakable so I'm not worried yet ;)

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:51 PM
I wonder what Peyre thinks of this?? :mad: :scratch:

Hopefully dire things

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:52 PM
Now that wasn't so bad to find something nice to say was it :D

Oh shit - here we go again - broken to start the 3rd with 2 first serves in!!!

Might be 6-0 but the wrong way:o



I say nice things when I see nice things... but when I don't......

so far this is turning into true disaster.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:52 PM
omg his first serve percentage in this set is 30%

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:53 PM
omg another break point....

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 06:54 PM
11th ace to the rescue,so badly needs this game. If Ritchie can possibly hold here,I believe he could still win this match.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 06:54 PM
Guys, let's make a pact to never visit GM when Richie loses a match like this. OK? :angel:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:54 PM
Great 4-0 I hate to say this but I hope the serve is shit because his shoulder is hurting as that can be fixed.

simplet
04-22-2009, 06:54 PM
YES he did it...OMG now please just take the last set 6-0

ah ah that was a good one

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:55 PM
OMG he got broken again...I want to cry and throw things soooooo BAD! :mad:

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 06:55 PM
I don't go in GM any more Dani.

lisaplenske
04-22-2009, 06:57 PM
go hide yourself richard. You sucks BAD right now.

you desperate tennis player

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 06:57 PM
oh I'm not going anywhere near GM!!!

richie21
04-22-2009, 06:58 PM
So Gasquetaires,still think 2009 couldn't be worse than 2008??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 06:58 PM
Jeez Richard, fire all your French coaches that clearly do absolutely nothing to you and get an American coach who will kick your ass really hard and get you back to work. This is simply disgusting.

Schu
04-22-2009, 06:58 PM
I say nice things when I see nice things... but when I don't......

so far this is turning into true disaster.

and it keeps getting worse :o

Has he gone into the tank? What is with his first serve ? 11 aces but 36% in the 3rd set :o Almost half the points he won on 1st serve were aces and the rest :o

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 06:59 PM
Jeez Richard, fire all your French coaches that clearly do absolutely nothing to you and get an American coach who will kick your ass really hard and get you back to work. This is simply disgusting.

Hire anyone who would kick his ass.

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Oh my..I just don't know what to say.

richie21
04-22-2009, 07:00 PM
and it keeps getting worse :o

Has he gone into the tank? What is with his first serve ? 11 aces but 36% in the 3rd set :o Almost half the points he won on 1st serve were aces and the rest :o


The serve percentage is irrelevant in that case.
Even serving 10%,he should never lose to C.Rochus,let alone by that scoreline :rolleyes:
I mean,look at Murray: he has often won matches against top players serving under 50% of first serve

Schu
04-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Jeez Richard, fire all your French coaches that clearly do absolutely nothing to you and get an American coach who will kick your ass really hard and get you back to work. This is simply disgusting.

some how I don't think it's the coach(es).

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 07:00 PM
:sobbing: Richard... come on now. Deuce :armed:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:01 PM
and it keeps getting worse :o

Has he gone into the tank? What is with his first serve ? 11 aces but 36% in the 3rd set :o Almost half the points he won on 1st serve were aces and the rest :o


I presume he is struggling with his shoulder or I hope that is the case. I would rather it be that than his standard of play be this shit.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:01 PM
Hire anyone who would kick his ass.

maybe he can borrow Uncle Toni from Rafa :)

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:01 PM
Omg he got one of the breaks back...now only if he can hold his serve...hmmmmmm

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 07:02 PM
Okay so we all know Rochus is breakable... Only one more break to go :banana: :lol:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
maybe he can borrow Uncle Toni from Rafa :)



Yes please

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
Continue to ignore the troll everyone... one comment taken too far from it will get it banned from our forum. :D That rule is in the Announcement forum. :p

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
At least he hasn't gone down without a trace in this set. Now hold and make this interesting again Ritchie;)

simplet
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
What's funny is that from the score board it looks like he is fighting for once. He's losing badly, but a lot of games go to deuce and everything.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:04 PM
Here's that rule. ;) :p

(4) Do not go into a player's forum to bash that player or troll the forum. These are the areas where fans of a player can be "safe". If such behavior continues, it will result in warnings and being banned from posting in that particular forum or MTF as a whole.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:04 PM
Continue to ignore the troll everyone... one comment taken too far from it will get it banned from our forum. :D That rule is in the Announcement forum. :p

On ignore since the AO :angel:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:04 PM
Okay so we all know Rochus is breakable... Only one more break to go :banana: :lol:

First he has to hold his serve :rolleyes:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Ok, if Rochus is doing this to Richard, does he really have any chance against anyone else that is semi decent on clay??? I mean, really can we possibly expect him to win any match in Rome or Madrid, let alone best of 5 set match at RG? :sad::sad:

lisaplenske
04-22-2009, 07:05 PM
So Gasquetaires,still think 2009 couldn't be worse than 2008??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

moi j'attend plus rien, c'est juste qu'il est desesperant.

je comprend maintenant.

richie21
04-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Here's that rule. ;) :p

(4) Do not go into a player's forum to bash that player or troll the forum. These are the areas where fans of a player can be "safe". If such behavior continues, it will result in warnings and being banned from posting in that particular forum or MTF as a whole.


So i don't have the right to criticize a player in his forum but the Gasquetaires have the right to do it?:rolleyes:
Because i just saw a lot of Gasquetaires saying things like "Gasquet,work you ass up please"

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:06 PM
if he gets through this I think Nadal might bagel him tomorrow

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 07:06 PM
He holds:dance: I think you can still do this Ritchie..call me:crazy::p

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:07 PM
if he gets through this I think Nadal might bagel him tomorrow


If he won a game I would be happy but it isn't going to happen because he is going down.

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 07:07 PM
First he has to hold his serve :rolleyes:

Which he just did :yeah::banana:

Allez you sexy thing... break him one more time.:armed:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:08 PM
It's 5-2 :sobbing:

I'm not gonna be able to see him play again :bigcry:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:09 PM
some how I don't think it's the coach(es).


Then what is it? Himself? I don't really trust anything his camp or himself are saying anymore, because just this year he said many times that his shoulder is "fine", while we now know it was not the case. They keep saying great things after some wins and bad stuff after he loses.. Where is the truth? I think by all this they are hiding some real problems he is dealing with.. and I think they are more serious than his shoulder issues. He is clearly serving ok, but everything else is just not there anymore.

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 07:09 PM
Uh-oh 2-5.. Whilst there's life...

richie21
04-22-2009, 07:10 PM
To think he was destroying that same player when he was still a teenager.....

simplet
04-22-2009, 07:10 PM
If he won a game I would be happy but it isn't going to happen because he is going down.

He looks like he has some fight in him at least. I wouldn't say he is quite dead, I don't think Christophe Rochus is such a model of stability under pressure.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:11 PM
What the hell is this performance I wish I could watch to have some clue about what the heck he is doing.


ooh 2 aces come on Richie.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:12 PM
oh so now he serves 2 aces in a row :rolleyes:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:13 PM
COme on Richard break!!

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:13 PM
0-30 Allez Richie

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:13 PM
0-30....

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:14 PM
30-30 :ras:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
match point :(

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
At least he doesn't have to play Rafa tomorrow :rolls:

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :sobbing: :sobbing:

ellen_
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Sorry guys :awww: :hug:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Dead and buried

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Oh Ritchie:sobbing:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:16 PM
It is over. I can't believe some of you went SO far ahead of thinking that he got a bad draw "playing" Nadal in R16.. It was the best draw he could possibly get and he still wasn't good enough to get through.

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 07:16 PM
NO NO NO NO :headbang:

Nichele Hull
04-22-2009, 07:17 PM
I'm depressed now :sad:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:17 PM
It is over. I can't believe some of you went SO far ahead of thinking that he got a bad draw "playing" Nadal in R16.. It was the best draw he could possibly get and he still wasn't good enough to get through.

There is no such thing as an easy match for Richie anymore.

PinkFeatherBoa
04-22-2009, 07:18 PM
:banghead:.

I hate these stupid losses where you can't even see what's going on.

Jozie
04-22-2009, 07:18 PM
:bolt:

Off to Rome?

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:18 PM
Well I don't see how he can blame his shoulder when he served 14 aces. i'm hoping it is general lack of fitness which he can work on.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:19 PM
I guess it will be more first round losses at the masters like last year :bigcry: :sobbing:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:19 PM
There is no such thing as an easy match for Richie anymore.

Yes. I don't even want to know what will happen for the rest of this clay court season. If we think 2008 clay court was a disaster... well I guess he is showing us that it could be worse.

Schu
04-22-2009, 07:22 PM
On the bright side - we don't have to watch Rafa demolish him tomorrow.

Bring on the grass ...

Tess Gray
04-22-2009, 07:23 PM
No way I want to go to GM right now...:scared: GM is always a scary place, but especially this time around.


Schu that's so true. It would have been a double bagle for suuuure

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:23 PM
I would rather have Rafa beat him than Rochus....at least it's not embarrassing when you get beaten by the king of clay :mad:

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:24 PM
That match deserved a http://waynefontes.com/facepalm.jpeg

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:24 PM
It can't be worse. He didn't win a match at Rome or Hamburg last year and he didn't play RG. How can he be worse than that. At least he won one match here.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:24 PM
I would rather have Rafa beat him than Rochus....at least it's not embarrassing when you get beaten by the king of clay :mad:

Agreed

Mint Chip
04-22-2009, 07:26 PM
I'm sorry that Gasquet lost today. It would of been better if he lost to a better player tbh

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:27 PM
I would rather have Rafa beat him than Rochus....at least it's not embarrassing when you get beaten by the king of clay :mad:

I think he will take more confidence from Rafa beating him 6-0, 6-1 (which is what would have happened had they played) than losing to perhaps one of the worst players in Top 100, C. Rochus.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:29 PM
So guesses on what the excuse will be for the loss this time. (edit sorry that is harsh)

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Tori that is harsh :sad:

But I do want a real reason why he tanked today!

Dini
04-22-2009, 07:31 PM
Tori...cigarettes probably?

:shrug:

(:banghead:)

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 07:33 PM
Goodness I started crying a bit and people are all worried now :sad: :lol:

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 07:34 PM
It is how I feel though sometimes. I don't expect Nadal or even the standards of someone consistent like Davy or Roddick, but I do expect him to win matches against people like Rochus who he has previously beaten 6-1 6-1. There has to be a reason. Players just don't peak at 18. Why has his form gone down so much, does he not care, is it lack of fitness, lack of confidence, injury? What??

At least with Nalby I know he has little committment to tennis and a penchant for food. You know that he balances the brilliant with the shit. Richie at the moment balances the shit with the shit and it is sad and depressing.

~*BGT*~
04-22-2009, 07:34 PM
So guesses on what the excuse will be for the loss this time. (edit sorry that is harsh)

Jo and Gael were supposed to be here too. I miss mes amis.

richie21
04-22-2009, 07:36 PM
Jo and Gael were supposed to be here too. I miss mes amis.

or

"Rochus played like a top 10 player"

:rolleyes:

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 07:53 PM
It is how I feel though sometimes. I don't expect Nadal or even the standards of someone consistent like Davy or Roddick, but I do expect him to win matches against people like Rochus who he has previously beaten 6-1 6-1. There has to be a reason. Players just don't peak at 18. Why has his form gone down so much, does he not care, is it lack of fitness, lack of confidence, injury? What??

At least with Nalby I know he has little committment to tennis and a penchant for food. You know that he balances the brilliant with the shit. Richie at the moment balances the shit with the shit and it is sad and depressing.


You know why?

1. His movement got much worse. I think he has issues with flexibility.
2. His reaction time is much worse. He is often wrong footed. More often than most players.
3. His forehand may be ok in some matches and be completely non existent or horrible in others.
4. His backhand is predictable shot now.. he should take lesson how to hit it from Wawrinka.. sorry to say it but this how I feel.
5. Serve is the only shot that has improved since 05
6. His endurance is not improving at all and perhaps getting worse
7. He has some mental and psychological issues about himself that is affecting his tennis
8. He has injury and pains in his shoulder and elbow from time to time.
9. His return of serve improved somewhat this year, but perhaps not enough
10. His rally shots are generally weaker and shorter than most of top 50 players.
11. He has blisters issues and therefore probably can not practice as long as he wants


These are some of the things I see from him and I am being honest. What I am very surprised about is that why I can't see him addressing (or unable to correct) MOST if not all those issues.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 08:07 PM
I can see how his physical conditioning is worse. I don't understand why though. He has fitness trainers etc. What is going wrong there.

I don't see his backhand is predictable but I do see his forehand is worse. He was hitting it much better at the end of 07.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:10 PM
Vlad, what psychological issues do you think Richard has? Do you think it's just a lack of confidence and self belief? Or is it almost that he is afraid of the success so "tanks" subconsciously. I can't believe he lost this one, I really thought he would win comfortably.

richie21
04-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Vlad, what psychological issues do you think Richard has? Do you think it's just a lack of confidence and self belief? Or is it almost that he is afraid of the success so "tanks" subconsciously. I can't believe he lost this one, I really thought he would win comfortably.

Well,you told me to be realistic.......follow your own advise and now admit that Richie has gotten worse to the point he is now even weaker than players like C.Rochus....

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 08:13 PM
Vlad, what psychological issues do you think Richard has? Do you think it's just a lack of confidence and self belief? Or is it almost that he is afraid of the success so "tanks" subconsciously. I can't believe he lost this one, I really thought he would win comfortably.

Your guess is as good as mine... but maybe something in his personal life, maybe too much authority from parents, maybe he does not trust his coaches, maybe his general shy nature is not giving him freedom on tennis court... I don't know what it is, but he clearly is restricted in his actions on tennis court. Something is holding him back, almost like he is afraid of his opponents.. It is not very normal.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 08:15 PM
I can see how his physical conditioning is worse. I don't understand why though. He has fitness trainers etc. What is going wrong there.

I don't see his backhand is predictable but I do see his forehand is worse. He was hitting it much better at the end of 07.



I have watched some Wawrinka matches at last few tournaments since he is reaching later rounds and I have to say his backhand seems to have more on it and better placement than Richards... I am not comparing their styles as it is little different, but overall, Stan is being far more aggressive with it, even on return of serve, but especially during normal rally. Just my opinion.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:19 PM
Well,you told me to be realistic.......follow your own advise and now admit that Richie has gotten worse to the point he is now even weaker than players like C.Rochus....I don't need to, the scoreboard says it all doesn't it! I did think he would win this one though.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:20 PM
Your guess is as good as mine... but maybe something in his personal life, maybe too much authority from parents, maybe he does not trust his coaches, maybe his general shy nature is not giving him freedom on tennis court... I don't know what it is, but he clearly is restricted in his actions on tennis court. Something is holding him back, almost like he is afraid of his opponents.. It is not very normal.
I wonder if he just literally panics when he's out there. I don't know. Do you think Peyre is the right coach for him?

*Martolina*
04-22-2009, 08:22 PM
horrible.
no more word.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:24 PM
God, somebody shoot me if I ever make another post about tv coverage and looking forward to seeing him play!

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 08:30 PM
I have watched some Wawrinka matches at last few tournaments since he is reaching later rounds and I have to say his backhand seems to have more on it and better placement than Richards... I am not comparing their styles as it is little different, but overall, Stan is being far more aggressive with it, even on return of serve, but especially during normal rally. Just my opinion.

wawa is more aggresive with his but I think Richie does more with his backhand still.

I just don't get Richie. As I said before with Nalby you know that his head isn't 100% in his tennis and while it disappoints me because he can trounce Fed and Nadal when he wants to, I get it. He is unnaturally calm on court though and that worries me I wish he would show some temper and passion sometimes. I want to know he cares.

With Richie though i don't get him. You have all this speculation. he smokes? - Show me a picture. You aren't telling me in the days of cameras on phones that if he smokes a pack a day someone doesn't have it on camera.

Same with his supposed clubbing habits and womanising. Apart from clubbing with Tsonga where are the pics.

I just don't get it.

Panic attacks vary a lot with the individual but I used to suffer from them and still do on occassion (tis wasp related) and I literally freeze and get hysterical. You can notice trust me. I have never seen out of the ordinary like that with Richie.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:35 PM
No, I didn't mean an actual panic attack but maybe he just panics in his head when he steps out on court? I always get the impression he is a rather anxious, nervy sort of a person.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 08:38 PM
No, I didn't mean an actual panic attack but maybe he just panics in his head when he steps out on court? I always get the impression he is a rather anxious, nervy sort of a person.


Sorry I misunderstood. I dunno maybe in his head he was already stressing about playing Rafa which stopped him playing well against Rochus.

So difficult without seeing the match though. maybe he did have a physical problem.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 08:39 PM
I wonder if he just literally panics when he's out there. I don't know. Do you think Peyre is the right coach for him?

I don't know.. what I know is that I don't trust his camp and what they are saying anymore. I will only start trusting when I see results from Richard again. Tennis is not a brain surgery and usually whoever practices enough and puts enough work in will succeed sooner or later. Richard has been on a steady decline for some time now. Today was one of the worst losses he ever had. Perhaps THE worst.

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 08:43 PM
I don't know.. what I know is that I don't trust his camp and what they are saying anymore. I will only start trusting when I see results from Richard again. Tennis is not a brain surgery and usually whoever practices enough and puts enough work in will succeed sooner or later. Richard has been on a steady decline for some time now. Today was one of the worst losses he ever had. Perhaps THE worst.

he lost to Luis Horna last year.

I agree with you about him being on a steady decline and I don't understand where the problem is. There has to be something in his set up that isnt working.

amandita
04-22-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm too much sad about this loss as you girls are, and sometimes i try to find out some reasons for some problems that are happening, but one thing is right: richard is very talented, but he hasn't improved his tennis in these last years. When i watch murray sometimes, i think his coach must be very proud of him. He's improving and rising. Murray is one player that certainly will give nadal so much trouble in the future.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 08:48 PM
he lost to Luis Horna last year.

I agree with you about him being on a steady decline and I don't understand where the problem is. There has to be something in his set up that isnt working.

Horna may have been lower ranked but he is more capable player with more weapons than Rochus. Horna actually won couple titles in his career and is considered to be dangerous (at least at times) on clay.... but this Rochus guy.... :o:o

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 08:50 PM
I'm too much sad about this loss as you girls are, and sometimes i try to found out some reasons for some problems that are happening, but one thing is right: richard is very talented, but he hasn't improved his tennis in these last years. When i watch murray sometimes, i think his couch must be very proud of him. He's improving and rising. Murray is one player that ceartainly will give nadal so much trouble in the future.

I'm more of a Rafa fan than a Murray fan (although I like Andy) but I think he will be challenging for number 1 by the end of 2009 and it will be close.

I think Andy had a lot of the same probs Richie had last year re injuries and playing to his potential but he has totally sorted out his fitness and built a team around him and Richie should look at that.

amandita
04-22-2009, 09:01 PM
sorry for my mistake, cloudygirl. i put couch :haha: but the word was coach.:)

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 09:03 PM
sorry for my mistake, cloudygirl. i put couch :haha: but the word was coach.:)

it's ok I got it. lol.

Schu
04-22-2009, 09:35 PM
I think he will take more confidence from Rafa beating him 6-0, 6-1 (which is what would have happened had they played) than losing to perhaps one of the worst players in Top 100, C. Rochus.

Drama Queen - aren't we, C. Rochus is ranked 61 not 99 ;). I know the point you want to make is that he shouldn't be loosing to these types of players period - whether they are 51 or 101 or 501.

He's frustrating as hell but folks it's just a game! Some players have huge dips in their play and go backward before they go forward. And then there are others who go straight up but obviously he's not one of those. He may bouce back, he may not. I personally will stay on the rollar coaster, hope for the best and endure the worst (which I hope isn't much worse than today).

I guess the most frustrating thing is that he showed some promise several years ago and he's been hyped as the king of French tennis for so long we forget that he does have some major flaws in his game and he just might not be the talent we have grown to believe.

I've been around tennis and life a long time and you just have to roll with the punches, take the good with the bad and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH... I've long stopped trying to analyze what the hell is in his adorable head. As long as RIchie plays, I'll "enjoy" being his fan, even if I want to ring his neck at times and wonder WTF.

case
04-22-2009, 09:37 PM
God, somebody shoot me if I ever make another post about tv coverage and looking forward to seeing him play!

:haha: i'll hide all the guns and arrows.

Schu
04-22-2009, 09:51 PM
You know why?

1. His movement got much worse. I think he has issues with flexibility.
2. His reaction time is much worse. He is often wrong footed. More often than most players.
3. His forehand may be ok in some matches and be completely non existent or horrible in others.
4. His backhand is predictable shot now.. he should take lesson how to hit it from Wawrinka.. sorry to say it but this how I feel.
5. Serve is the only shot that has improved since 05
6. His endurance is not improving at all and perhaps getting worse
7. He has some mental and psychological issues about himself that is affecting his tennis
8. He has injury and pains in his shoulder and elbow from time to time.
9. His return of serve improved somewhat this year, but perhaps not enough
10. His rally shots are generally weaker and shorter than most of top 50 players.
11. He has blisters issues and therefore probably can not practice as long as he wants


These are some of the things I see from him and I am being honest. What I am very surprised about is that why I can't see him addressing (or unable to correct) MOST if not all those issues.

As what's his name on tennistv.com (Robbie Koenig?) would say, "spot on" with your analysis. Only thing I might differ with is his endurance - how can we tell? he hasn't really tested it this year and from what I've seen, endurance has been not an issue. We haven't seen him play yet on clay this year but I MIGHT add that his court positioning is been a bit better but that might not be true after today.

And I also wonder why the flaws have gone uncorrected so long.

Puschkin
04-22-2009, 09:56 PM
1. His movement got much worse. I think he has issues with flexibility.
2. His reaction time is much worse. He is often wrong footed. More often than most players.
3. His forehand may be ok in some matches and be completely non existent or horrible in others.
4. His backhand is predictable shot now.. he should take lesson how to hit it from Wawrinka.. sorry to say it but this how I feel.
5. Serve is the only shot that has improved since 05
6. His endurance is not improving at all and perhaps getting worse
7. He has some mental and psychological issues about himself that is affecting his tennis
8. He has injury and pains in his shoulder and elbow from time to time.
9. His return of serve improved somewhat this year, but perhaps not enough
10. His rally shots are generally weaker and shorter than most of top 50 players.
11. He has blisters issues and therefore probably can not practice as long as he wants

Have you seen the match? I guess no, so spare us your analysis which is based on frustration.

Gretchen.
04-22-2009, 10:01 PM
Richie played without a hat maybe that's why he lost :sobbing:

http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2009/20090422_211643_gasquet-s-effondre.html

and he's still wearing the same damn outfit :rolleyes: Get some new clothes already

Schu
04-22-2009, 10:06 PM
Richie played without a hat maybe that's why he lost :sobbing:

http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2009/20090422_211643_gasquet-s-effondre.html

OMG That's it! The last time he did that was the disaster match at RG.

Damn that Head and Shoulders!

Puschkin
04-22-2009, 10:12 PM
Do you think Peyre is the right coach for him?
:haha: Now the coach debates are starting again. From all what I can see and read, Guillaume works hard to give Richard a physique allowing him to play on a consistent basis. So far, recurring injuries have prevented us to see if this works.

While that was a disappointing loss, it is the first clay tourney after a long break and certainly not one close to Richard's heart. I did not expect him to do well in Barcelona at all. Richard always had lapses like that, it's nothing new: May I remind you at the defeat against Qureshi in Halle 2007?

Davodus
04-22-2009, 10:28 PM
:(
i thought he would win, but i expected he might lose
im not overly concerned like a lot of people are :shrug:
its hard to know what to expect in the first tournament back from an injury...

but-it's-ok
04-22-2009, 10:30 PM
:(
i thought he would win, but i expected he might lose
im not overly concerned like a lot of people are :shrug:
its hard to know what to expect in the first tournament back from an injury...

Yes,thats my general feeling too;)

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 10:32 PM
:(
i thought he would win, but i expected he might lose
im not overly concerned like a lot of people are :shrug:
its hard to know what to expect in the first tournament back from an injury...

I expected him to get battered by Nadal yup but he should be beating Rochus, injury or no injury. I'm disappointed for him more than anything.

Davodus
04-22-2009, 10:35 PM
I expected him to get battered by Nadal yup but he should be beating Rochus, injury or no injury. I'm disappointed for him more than anything.

he should be beating rochus, yes
im not sure what would be worse for his confidence...this match, or losing something like 6-2 6-3 to nadal...again
either way i will hold out judgement on his form until i see how he continues in the next few tournaments

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 10:37 PM
I suppose at least he can't do worse than last year until queens. That has to be good right. Anything is an improvement.

Davodus
04-22-2009, 10:42 PM
yeah that is one positive...any win = points
but this is where he really needs to utilise that to get up the rankings...

Cloudygirl
04-22-2009, 10:58 PM
yes if he wins just a few rounds in the next few weeks I imagine he would go up the rankings a fair bit.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 11:17 PM
Have you seen the match? I guess no, so spare us your analysis which is based on frustration.

I am obviously not talking about this match in particular.. I am talking overall. And if you are not agreeing with any of the above, please state so and we can discuss it further. Those items I listed came from watching him during last 2 years of play. Yes, it is frustrating, he is losing to some nobodies right now, but what is more frustrating is that his camp thinks everything is alright and they keep voicing their positive opinions after every and each win... while in fact his level is clearly declining. There is no doubt about it.

Vlad1980
04-22-2009, 11:22 PM
yeah that is one positive...any win = points
but this is where he really needs to utilise that to get up the rankings...

If Richard doesn't have the game at this point, ranking are meaningless. It doesn't matter if he is playing top 20 or top 100, we know the result eventually. What he needs is to start working on his game and improve it! I refuse to believe that he is doing everything he can and yet his level keeps dropping like a stone.

tennis lover
04-23-2009, 12:17 AM
:awww: how disappointing. still, it's the first tournament in a while and he can't have played much because of his injury. Hopefully he'll do better next week where it's more important. :D

~*BGT*~
04-23-2009, 03:33 AM
I have a good feeling about Estoril. ;) Look what it did to Fed last year. :D

Davodus
04-23-2009, 03:37 AM
If Richard doesn't have the game at this point, ranking are meaningless. It doesn't matter if he is playing top 20 or top 100, we know the result eventually. What he needs is to start working on his game and improve it! I refuse to believe that he is doing everything he can and yet his level keeps dropping like a stone.

you know i agree with you, but rankings mean something in terms of getting the draws to help get confidence and everything, so in that sense its a positive the higher you are ranked, obviously

he definitely needs to just work his butt off, he needs to get fitter, that has been well documented, he needs to get stronger, he needs to improve his forehand and mentality on the court. I really hope he does, because he is obviously not getting by on his natural talent anymore...
that said, i love watching his game, so i always hope he has a day where it all works :lol: but yeah, more hard work please richard :yeah:

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 05:55 AM
Those items I listed came from watching him during last 2 years of play.....
But not every item happened in every match. And there are reasons for that. Both his preparatory seasons for 2008 and 2009 have been hampered by injuries. And in stead of curing them, he kept an exaggerated schedule, which then forced him to withdraw and he hardly got into a rhythm of winning enough matches to boost confidence. Whether this was done due to his own stubbornness or bad medical advice is hard to judge from outside.

but what is more frustrating is that his camp thinks everything is alright ....
Do they? I am suprised. And if you watch the second part of the "Mousquetaire" video, you see very well that a lot of work is done on the FH and on fitness (maybe too much to the detriment of the fluidity).

edit: Richard manque de rigueur avec lui-même. Richard lacks toughness with himself, says Peyre in the article below, that is far from thinking everything is fine.

Truc
04-23-2009, 06:54 AM
The article in L'Equipe:
Privé de dessert
Battu par Christophe Rochus au terme d’un match qu’il qualifia lui-même de « dégueu », Richard Gasquet a posé un lapin à Nadal.

On attendait le septième épisode des aventures chez les grands de Richie de Sérignan face à Rafa de Manacor, aujourd’hui en huitièmes de finale à Barcelone. Mais Gasquet n’a pas su aller chercher son ticket choc, s’inclinant hier soir au terme d’un match sans queue ni tête devant le Belge Christophe Rochus (6-1, 6-7, 6-3). BARCELONE – (ESP) de notre envoyé spécial

« RICHARD GASQUET reste très dangereux. Il a un grand jeu d’attaque, un gros potentiel, un revers bellissime. En plus, il bouge bien sur terre, alors je me méfie. Christophe Rochus, pour moi, ce serait plus confortable. » Pas de problème M’sieur Nadal, vos souhaits de l’après-midi, dans la foulée de votre tranquille entrée dans le tournoi (6-2, 6-2 contre Gil), ont été exaucés dans la soirée. C’est bien le talentueux joueur belge, que vous avez néanmoins étrillé il y a trois mois à l’Open d’Australie (6-0, 6-2, 6-2), qui va se retrouver aujourd’hui face à vous.
Battu en trois manches hier soir à 21 h 15 (6-1, 6-7, 6-3), Richard Gasquet a quitté Barcelone et, de toute façon, il n’avait pas l’intention de reprendre la raquette de sitôt : « Au moins un ou deux jours sans, parce que là, je suis vraiment bien énervé. »
Comme il est difficile parfois de tout comprendre quand on voit Gasquet jouer au tennis. Phobie or not phobie ? Est-ce la peur d’affronter Nadal (l’un des trois joueurs qui habitent ses cauchemars avec Ferrer et Nalbandian) qui a retenu ses intentions au fond du court hier ? « Non, c’est pas ça, je jure que j’ai tout essayé. Vraiment. J’ai cherché. J’ai fait ce que j’ai pu. Mais je suis si prévisible du fond. Et puis, je joue si court, dans les carrés. Je suis facile à jouer en ce moment. » Est-ce la peur de se revoir en piteux état qui l’a poussé à demander au caméraman de Canal + d’arrêter de le filmer au début du troisième set ? Ce dernier était arrivé le jour même dans l’optique de saisir des images du Gasquet-Nadal pressenti ce jeudi, dans le cadre de la série documentaire lancée par la chaîne avec pour thème les nouveaux mousquetaires du tennis français... Il n’aura pas trop de bandes catalanes à dérusher. «C’est juste que j’étais mal à ce moment-là, se défendit Gasquet, qui alla ensuite s’excuser auprès du journaliste. J’étais tellement énervé de ce qui se passait dans ce match. Quand on entre un peu dans un état de folie, pfff, tout est possible... J’aurais pu encore plus péter les plombs, et puis le court est si petit, on voit tout ce qui se passe autour. »
Ça, c’est sûr, le court 3 du Real Club de Barcelone est petit. Il n’a pas de gradins qui le surplombent, juste une demi-douzaine de bancs qui le longent derrière la chaise d’arbitre. Gasquet connaît bien l’endroit, il y a passé tout son tournoi. Comme la veille, face à Hernych, il y a conclu le programme, étant le dernier à quitter le court. Comme la veille, à chaque fois qu’il s’asseyait au changement de côté, il avait sous les yeux le dos de la tribune principale du central, habillé d’une gigantesque affiche publicitaire pour le quotidien la Vanguardia. L’affiche mesure dix mètres de haut et trente de large. C’est plus grand qu’un court de tennis. Sur fond bleu se détache en blanc cette citation de Roger Federer, tirée d’une déclaration à la veille de la finale de Roland-Garros 2006 : « Je ne suis pas d’accord. Je l’ai dit des dizaines de fois. Le favori, c’est NADAL. »
Comme s’il était nécessaire de le rappeler à Gasquet... Dommage, car son premier tour, après un mois d’absence à cause d’une épaule en souffrance, avait été intéressant. Même hier, mené 6-1, 2-1, 40-0, il réagit pourtant avec quelques passages de haut niveau, puis retomba tout à coup dans ses travers au début du troisième set, où il effaça même une balle de 5-0. « Son entame de match n’était tout simplement pas digne d’un pro, trancha Guillaume Peyre, entraîneur frustré hier soir. Richard manque de rigueur avec lui-même. Il doit mettre le doigt sur le problème. Ce genre de défaite, soit tu construis dessus, soit tu cherches des excuses et ça bouge pas. » « J’avais les jambes lourdes, le bras lourd, du mal à me concentrer, comptabilisa Gasquet. Un match aussi “dégueu” n’augure pas forcément d’une grande saison sur terre. Le seul point positif, c’est que je n’ai plus mal à l’épaule. Mais bon, voilà, ça montre qu’il faut se remettre en question, encore et encore. C’est le cas pour tous les joueurs de toute façon. À part Nadal. »
JULIEN REBOULLET

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 07:20 AM
Comme il est difficile parfois de tout comprendre....
That's exactly how I feel after reading the article. I know as much as I did before. :o

reggie1
04-23-2009, 09:04 AM
:haha: Now the coach debates are starting again. From all what I can see and read, Guillaume works hard to give Richard a physique allowing him to play on a consistent basis. So far, recurring injuries have prevented us to see if this works.

While that was a disappointing loss, it is the first clay tourney after a long break and certainly not one close to Richard's heart. I did not expect him to do well in Barcelona at all. Richard always had lapses like that, it's nothing new: May I remind you at the defeat against Qureshi in Halle 2007?
There really is no need to be quite so patronising and condescending towards me Margareta :rolleyes: I was just asking Vlad what his opinion of Peyre was. I do actually respect his opinion as I think he gives a good analysis of Richard's game, despite what you may think. You can dress this up however you want to but the bottom line is, Richard should not be losing with THIS score line to a player like Rochus imo. Nadal or Federer yes, but not Rochus :o Unless he is still injured but according to his camp, everything was fine.

lisaplenske
04-23-2009, 10:30 AM
well dont understand him at all and its been quite a long time now.I think even peyre is having white hair with richard right now.
He said he felt his arm,legs were so heavy yesterday but I want to say one thing: WHY????????????
peyre is right on his analyse, the start of richard was not worthy of a tennis professional.
That was disgusting from every part of his game and I agree with Vlad, his game is declining. Anything is at his right place now. His game has declined so much.
Dont know what is going on with him,in his head but he 's totally "OUT"
I dont want to stay frustrated with his kind of shitty matches and awful loss against nobodies, better stop tennis and do something else cause right now he just get his supporters annoyed and feel they waste their time. Better retire ,it would be more simple.

reggie1
04-23-2009, 11:09 AM
Oh Amira,:hug: I know it's difficult and we all feel frustrated for him but try not to lose heart, he is still a great person and at some point I still think he will turn things around. I'm forever the optimist but at the moment, no, things are not going well. You really have been one of Richard's most loyal supporters and one of the few French people who post on here, we don't want to lose you. Hang on in there :kiss:

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 02:23 PM
I dont want to stay frustrated with his kind of shitty matches and awful loss against nobodies, better stop tennis and do something else cause right now he just get his supporters annoyed and feel they waste their time. Better retire ,it would be more simple.
Don't you think he'll be even more annoyed than we all? For a cure I recommend www.rafaelnadal.com, but I doubt it'll make you happy. ;) Come on, hang in, Lisa! :wavey:

Davodus
04-23-2009, 02:47 PM
being a nadal fan would be too easy :lol: it would just become boring :p

Schu
04-23-2009, 03:20 PM
Thanks for the article Fran.

The good news = no shoulder pain; the bad news = can't use that as an excuse for yesterday's play

The good news = he knows he sucked and is not thinking all is fine "Je suis facile à jouer en ce moment" (apparently so Richie); the bad news = sounds like he has no clue how to fix it and it doesn't bode well for his confidence for upcoming tournaments.

Funny when he talked about the small court - hey Richie, ya couldn't play from outer space yesterday?

And yes Lisa, hang in there, take a chill pill and accept the fact that you NEVER know which Richie will walk on the court - it's frustrating as hell (I'm sure not as frustrating to us as it is to him) but never boring and occassionally absolute joy. I'm a pro at this as my other faves are Nalbandian and Safin. I throw in Nadal too but it is boring to follow him these days, like it used to be with Fed.

case
04-23-2009, 03:44 PM
Don't you think he'll be even more annoyed than we all?\

no.
gasquet doesnt care if he wins or loses.
i think that is the very reason he loses so much to players who stink.

i think that is also part of nalbandians problem too.

the posters here care more about a loss than he does.

~*BGT*~
04-23-2009, 04:17 PM
That was such a sad article. :sobbing:

Schu
04-23-2009, 04:42 PM
no.
gasquet doesnt care if he wins or loses.
i think that is the very reason he loses so much to players who stink.

i think that is also part of nalbandians problem too.

the posters here care more about a loss than he does.

And you are personal friends with both Gasquet and Nalbandian?

They might not have the same drive as Nadal nor be as committed as he but it's absurd to say that anyone on the tour doesn't care if they win or loose, they just have a different personality. And at least Nalbandian doesn't live his entire life for tennis, which in the long run is probably healthier.

Gretchen.
04-23-2009, 04:45 PM
And you are personal friends with both Gasquet and Nalbandian?

They might not have the same drive as Nadal nor be as committed as he but it's absurd to say that anyone on the tour doesn't care if they win or loose, they just have a different personality. And at least Nalbandian doesn't live his entire life for tennis, which in the long run is probably healthier.

Yes in a way it is healthier. Because everybody keeps talking about how Nadal is most likely going to be finished by the time he's 27 and that comes from waaaay too much tennis.Also I'm pretty sure Richard wouldn't be putting himself through all this if he didn't care about his losses.

Vlad1980
04-23-2009, 05:00 PM
Nadal beats Rochus 6-2, 6-0... I am surprised he lost these 2 games to him.

afrOmig
04-23-2009, 06:12 PM
omg cant believe richar lost to chris rochus 6-1, 6-7 (2-7), 6-3 at the italian masters GRRRR
come on richy make this ur year!! u can do it

Gretchen.
04-23-2009, 06:16 PM
omg cant believe richar lost to chris rochus 6-1, 6-7 (2-7), 6-3 at the italian masters GRRRR
come on richy make this ur year!! u can do it

Umm this was in Barcelona, the Rome masters are next week

afrOmig
04-23-2009, 06:27 PM
ohh my bad lol lost track of my tennis brain since richys sholder injury and university :P
thanks for the correction

Gretchen.
04-23-2009, 06:42 PM
:lol: it's ok no problem ;)

Cloudygirl
04-23-2009, 08:49 PM
no.
gasquet doesnt care if he wins or loses.
i think that is the very reason he loses so much to players who stink.

i think that is also part of nalbandians problem too.

the posters here care more about a loss than he does.

Nalby I agree but I think Richie cares too much. Far too much. He needs to chill.

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 10:45 PM
gasquet doesnt care if he wins or loses.
i think that is the very reason he loses so much to players who stink.
I heavily disagree, I feel he cares too much. But as I don't know the guy personally and as I don't take his interviews at face-value, I admit it is pure speculation from my part.

Nadal beats Rochus 6-2, 6-0... I am surprised he lost these 2 games to him.
Different day, different match. And though I can't prove it, I am convinced that Richard would have played better against Nadal than he did against Rochus.

Cloudygirl
04-23-2009, 10:47 PM
Different day, different match. And though I can't prove it, I am convinced that Richard would have played better against Nadal than he did against Rochus.

I feel the same, he always plays well against Rafa. I just hope he doesn't get too negative about this loss. I want him to be happy.

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 10:51 PM
I feel the same, he always plays well against Rafa. I just hope he doesn't get too negative about this loss. I want him to be happy.
Well, from the article Truc posted, he did not look happy, but pissed off, to put it mildly. Just trasnfer the frustration into aggressive hitting and things will clear up immediately. Easier said than done, I know. :o

Davodus
04-23-2009, 10:53 PM
I heavily disagree, I feel he cares too much. But as I don't know the guy personally and as I don't take his interviews at face-value, I admit it is pure speculation from my part.


Different day, different match. And though I can't prove it, I am convinced that Richard would have played better against Nadal than he did against Rochus.

agree with it all
I think he cares too much, and it's apparent to me because he tends to play a fair bit better when he isn't expected to win

and he definitely would have done better than rochus against nadal

Cloudygirl
04-23-2009, 10:59 PM
Well, from the article Truc posted, he did not look happy, but pissed off, to put it mildly. Just trasnfer the frustration into aggressive hitting and things will clear up immediately. Easier said than done, I know. :o

I just hope it is positive what do I have to do to fix this pissed off, rather than depressive pissed off.

Puschkin
04-23-2009, 11:10 PM
what do I have to do to fix this pissed off, rather than depressive pissed off.
Rewatch the two tiebreaks against Roddick in Wimby 2007. I guarantuee it helps. :D

Cloudygirl
04-23-2009, 11:25 PM
Rewatch the two tiebreaks against Roddick in Wimby 2007. I guarantuee it helps. :D


2007 masters cup v Nole helps too. I think Richie should watch it every day.

Vlad1980
04-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Different day, different match. And though I can't prove it, I am convinced that Richard would have played better against Nadal than he did against Rochus.


I saw highlights and from what I saw Rochus was able to hit like 2 winners in all match... he was not competitive at all against Nadal. I still can not comprehend how Richard could possibly lose to Rochus... I really can not. :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

Vlad1980
04-23-2009, 11:30 PM
Rewatch the two tiebreaks against Roddick in Wimby 2007. I guarantuee it helps. :D

I can't wait until grass season starts.

tennis lover
04-23-2009, 11:34 PM
Rewatch the two tiebreaks against Roddick in Wimby 2007. I guarantuee it helps. :D
:sobbing:

tufani
04-23-2009, 11:39 PM
About Richard's first round match:
In the first set of his match against Jan Hernych, which he lost 4-6, a dangerous tendency was noticeable in Richard Gasquet’s play. As soon as he hit a shot that to him seemed good, the Frenchman virtually stopped playing the point, visibly sure the shot would be in and unreturned. However, more often than not, the shot would, in fact, be out or easily returned by the opponent. Gasquet would stay in the point, but become rather passive and uninterested, no longer trying to win it. While this type of attitude may be enough against the unheralded Czech, Richard may not be so lucky in the latter rounds.
http://www.talkabouttennis.com/content/2009-barcelona-open-bancosabadell-39/the-rundown-tuesday-8618/

PinkFeatherBoa
04-24-2009, 12:15 AM
Merci for the article Fran and thanks Olga for that summary info. After reading all that I'm more confused than ever about what happened. I guess I'll just hold out until Rome when I can actually see what's going on.

Rewatch the two tiebreaks against Roddick in Wimby 2007. I guarantuee it helps. :D

I have those stored on my iPod amongst other Richie highlights for watching when his results are at their most frustrating. What saddens me though is how far back in time I have to look to find such moments which last a whole match. :awww:

Hopefully we'll see some more Richie brilliance again soon.

case
04-24-2009, 12:59 AM
And you are personal friends with both Gasquet and Nalbandian?

They might not have the same drive as Nadal nor be as committed as he but it's absurd to say that anyone on the tour doesn't care if they win or loose, they just have a different personality. And at least Nalbandian doesn't live his entire life for tennis, which in the long run is probably healthier.

does gasquet look genuinely upset when he loses these days? not that i have seen. i think he is going through the motions of being a professional tennis player.

why would it be absurd to say there is a professional tennis player who does not make winning everything? he was the kid of tennis players. he once thought of doing something else. how much of his life has been preordained? how much of his life was for his parents?


and no, of course i dont know him personally. but why else would a player of his talents play so badly. why else would he not play with a slight sore throat? and every other injury he can think of.
truth is he doesnt want to play. every one here says they dont understand his losses. well maybe you dont really want to accept the fact.

i personally dont see anything wrong with him not minding he loses. everyone he3re beats up on me. but i am not knocking gasquet. it is the way it is and he probably is a better human being than a lot of other players. i would rather have a good human being on the planet right now! but i do like to see him play...

~*BGT*~
04-24-2009, 03:34 AM
I saw highlights and from what I saw Rochus was able to hit like 2 winners in all match... he was not competitive at all against Nadal. I still can not comprehend how Richard could possibly lose to Rochus... I really can not. :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

Where did you find highlights? Tennistv.com? :confused:

:sobbing:

I know... that match doesn't make me feel better at all. :sobbing:

Schu
04-24-2009, 04:13 AM
it is the way it is and he probably is a better human being than a lot of other players. i would rather have a good human being on the planet right now! but i do like to see him play...

Well said :yeah:

Don't mean to beat up on you and of course none of us know what's in his head. However just because he doesn't LOOK like he cares doesn't mean that he doesn't care; he's always been pretty cool on the court (well apparently not at USO quailies some years back when he got disqualified after he tosssed a racket which accidentally hit a linesperson but that's another story). I read an article that last year after one of his many bad losses, don't remember which one, he walked off the court looking pretty clam and cool but got into the locker room and smashed two rackets Safin style (humm several parallels there). So can't judge a book by it's cover.

There are many reasons why someone of his talent plays so poorly - weak mentally, psyched out, injury, not got their act together, cares too much or maybe just not THAT talented.

I do think sadly that his life may have been preordained and he could feel he is stuck with no alternative. He may not care ENOUGH to give up watching his favorite football team or partying or put in the time training that Nadal or Federer does but it would be EXTREMELY difficult for him to get where he is on the tour if he didn't want to be there and didn't care at least somewhat - it's a real bitch on the tour (despite the glam and parties we see)and competition is fierce - he can't just be going through the motions and be top 25, even top 100.

Yes as you say he is what he is and to me that appears to be a very decent human being that is going through a difficult time trying to take control of and sort out his life - that's always a killer!

Time will tell...