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Truc
03-03-2009, 06:15 AM
I'm opening a thread because I don't know where to post the news, but it's not looking good for GaŽl for this time, there was a problem with his plane, he will arrive in Ostrava only tonight, which means he will have only one day of training in Ostrava before Forget makes his decision for the final team.
:sad:

Truc
03-03-2009, 06:18 AM
In the sport24 interview yesterday, he says again he entered Acapulco because he was not sure to be on the DC team at the time and it was somehow logical for him to play Acapulco before Indian Wells and Miami. I do understand his choice then, but I will never get why he thought after Doha that he wouldn't be on the Davis Cup team? He had just played one of his best matches ever in Doha!

I mean this interview:
http://www.sport24.com/tennis/coupe-davis/actualites/avantage-aux-tcheques-243659/

soulage
03-03-2009, 10:30 AM
He always change his mind :devil: If he arrives tonight in Ostrava it means he had missed 4 days of train with the others :rolleyes: I continue to think he can be in team but we can't say he did everything to be in.

Keijan
03-03-2009, 11:05 AM
Je suis sûre que ça va lui retomber sur la g...... à un moment ou l'autre :help:

amdany
03-03-2009, 07:00 PM
Je suis sŻre que Áa va lui retomber sur la g...... ŗ un moment ou l'autre :help:

j'en suis sure aussi...

Truc
03-03-2009, 10:47 PM
You mean that he will pay for it for the next ties? That he won't be picked anymore?
Or that if France loses, Gaël will get bashed for the Acapulco move?

Truc
03-04-2009, 05:57 AM
Exprimez le fond de votre pensée, les filles, je suis vraiment pas sûre de comprendre à quoi vous faites allusion avec "lui retomber sur la gueule".

The article today in L'Equipe:Un problème ? Quel problème ?
Arrivé hier soir à Ostrava, Gaël Monfils est bien décidé à gagner sa sélection pour le week-end.

IL ÉTAIT 18 H 25, hier, lorsque Gaël Monfils pénétra dans le hall de l’hôtel Atom, où réside l’équipe de France. Soit un peu moins de quarante-huit heures après ses coéquipiers. Pour être arrivé du Mexique lundi, en fin de matinée, après avoir atteint la finale du tournoi d’Acapulco, le temps lui avait manqué pour sauter dans l’avion suivant et rejoindre ainsi les "boys" de Guy Forget dès le lundi soir. Depuis le début de la semaine, cette arrivée tardive suscite des interrogations. Pas pour le principal intéressé, presque remonté d’être ainsi mis à l’index par les observateurs.
« J’estime avoir fait les efforts nécessaires, dit "la Monf". J’ai pris un vol à Acapulco à 7 heures du matin, j’étais une heure plus tard à Mexico où j’ai attendu sept heures un vol d’Aero Mexico. Si j’avais voulu prendre Air France, c’était douze heures d’attente ! Ensuite, je me suis tapé un vol de treize heures. Mais, arrivé à Paris, il fallait que je me pose. Je suis quand même un être humain, j’ai besoin de dormir ! Dès que j’ai pu, j’ai pris un avion pour Ostrava. Et me voilà. »
Hier soir, Monfils n’avait qu’une envie, taper le plus vite possible et prendre ainsi contact avec la Cez Arena, où se disputera la rencontre. A priori impossible, le créneau horaire étant déjà occupé par l’équipe tchèque. Le règlement de la Fédération internationale n’a que faire des cas individuels.
Vu de l’extérieur, il semble évident que le contexte pénalise le 9e mondial. Sauf blessure de dernière minute, on voit mal Guy Forget le sélectionner au détriment du quatuor déjà au travail depuis le week-end. Mais, là encore, Monfils prend tout son monde à contre-pied. « Moi, je me vois comme un candidat à la sélection, assène-t-il. J’arrive avec le plein de confiance, je suis bien, j’ai envie de jouer… Après, je ne sais pas encore comment Guy et les autres voient les choses… Mais tout ça c’est des histoires de journalistes. Je ne vois pas où est le problème. »
« Gaël est un Martien »
Pourtant, selon le capitaine tchèque, Jaroslav Navratil, le cas Monfils est déjà réglé. « Je ne sais pas comment Guy Forget va réagir mais moi, je pars dans l’idée que les quatre Français alignés seront Tsonga, Simon, Gasquet et Llodra, explique-t-il. La vérité, c’est qu’il faut une semaine pour être prêt à disputer une rencontre de Coupe Davis. Nous, on est à Ostrava depuis dimanche. Sans compter les fatigues liées au vol et au décalage horaire… Monfils est arrivé trop tard. »
Une argumentation réfutée en bloc par le clan français. « Bien sûr que Gaël ne bénéficiera pas de la même préparation que les autres, estime Forget. Mais mon rôle est de garder tous les joueurs sous pression jusqu’au tirage au sort.On ne sait jamais ce qui peut se passer. Pour moi, que Gaël soit là, c’est quand même important. » Quant à ses coéquipiers, ils volent comme un seul homme à son secours. « Gaël est un Martien, lance Gasquet. Avec lui, rien n’est impossible. »
« Exact, confirme Llodra, personne ne réagit comme lui. De toute façon, il ne stresse jamais. » Plus posé, Simon pèse le pour et le contre. « Dire que Gaël aura effectué la meilleure préparation possible, c’est évidemment faux. Mais avec lui, ce qui compte, c’est ce qu’il ressent. S’il s’en sent capable, tout peut arriver. » Acceptons- en l’augure. Et cessons de nous interroger sur des problèmes qui, apparemment, n’existent pas.
VINCENT COGNET

Truc
03-04-2009, 06:12 AM
"A problem? What problem?"

He arrived at the hotel yesterday at 18:25 and sounds a bit annoyed because all the media say he is already out of the team. He says he made a great effort to come, he explains the story with all the flights, he is a human being, he had to rest a little bit in Paris before taking the next plane to Ostrava.
He wanted to start practicing immediately, but it was impossible because it was the time slot of the Czech team. The ITF rules don't anticipate a case like Gaël's.
From an outside perspective, it's pretty clear Gaël is out and will play only if there is an injury in the French team.
But Gaël doesn't agree, he says he's confident, he's playing well, is eager to play, so he is a "candidate" too in his opinion. "I don't know how Guy and the others see it... But the journalists are the ones who make a whole lot of fuss about it. I don't see the problem." :tape:
For Navratil (Czech captain), he's definitely not an option anymore, players need one week to get ready for a DC tie, they arrived in Ostrava on Sunday, add to that all the flights and the jetlag, it's too late, period.
But Forget says that his job is to make sure that all the players stay ready to play until the draw. Of course Gaël won't have the same preparation as the others, but it's important he's here too.
And his teammates are defending him. Richard: "Gaël is a Martian. Nothing is impossible with him." Mika: "Exactly, nobody reacts like him. He's never stressed."
Gilles is more moderate: it would be obviously wrong to say he had the best possible preparation. But the most important thing with Gaël is how he feels. If he thinks he can do it, everything is possible.
Let's stop worrying about problems which apparently don't exist then.

Keijan
03-04-2009, 08:14 AM
I meant that because of that his chances to be picked are strongly reduced which really angers me, and even if he is selected, if he loses we'll never hear the end of the Acapulco drama. The journos won't wait to be begged to go on and on about how Gaël doesn't care much about DC, unlike the others, etc, etc. I don't think it will influence his next selections but if one day, even in a few years he refuses a selection because he's injured or anything else, they will dig up the Acalpuco move, like we'll never hear the end of Richie's texts drama. The only way to get out of it, in my humble opinion, is for him to get selected and win at least one match, preferably the first to kill the drama in the egg. Then he will become the hero who can cross oceans and still play his best on different surfaces without having the time to adapt to them, instead of everyone's souffre douleur.

Keijan
03-04-2009, 08:33 AM
I love Richie's comment, and the fact that they all jump and fly to defend GaŽl. That's a real team spirit, even if one of them has hard feelings about it, he didn't say them to the press. Let's wait and see I guess.

soulage
03-04-2009, 01:36 PM
They're friends sure because the guy arrives 4 days later. What ? There is a problem ? and the others no problem it's OK lol

Truc
03-04-2009, 02:56 PM
Only 2 days, who cares about the basket-ball stuff for Stade 2? :angel:

I'll be annoyed if it jeopardizes his selection for the next ties - which is very possible. But we don't really know how it came to this ridiculous situation, maybe the other guys know and can understand better what happened. Or maybe it is unforgivable indeed. But I still give him the benefit of the doubt. :fangirl: :p
As for the rest, Gaël is used to a lot of drama and regularly gets his share of criticism from the journos and from a good part of the French tennis fans, I'm not too worried because of that, I think he gets over it.

amdany
03-04-2009, 04:35 PM
Only 2 days, who cares about the basket-ball stuff for Stade 2? :angel:

I'll be annoyed if it jeopardizes his selection for the next ties - which is very possible. But we don't really know how it came to this ridiculous situation, maybe the other guys know and can understand better what happened. Or maybe it is unforgivable indeed. But I still give him the benefit of the doubt. :fangirl: :p
As for the rest, GaŽl is used to a lot of drama and regularly gets his share of criticism from the journos and from a good part of the French tennis fans, I'm not too worried because of that, I think he gets over it.

I also know that Gael can handle it but if the team doesn't win I'm worried about what they (the journalists) are gonna say about Gael

Truc
03-05-2009, 06:14 AM
All the articles stress he seems fine and really cool atm, I think he will able to deal with it, don't worry.

Everybody says he's the one who will be kicked out of the team today, of course. But he was in a good mood yesterday and swears he doesn't mind.

There are two little stories in L'Equipe and Le Parisien which illustrate his mood yesterday. I posted them on GM.com: http://www.gaelmonfils.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=179&p=2511#p2511
He jokes that he would also be able to answer the questions of the journalists in Czech - a hint at his story with Cibulkova last year.

And in the other one, a journalist asked him after his training session who he would pick if he was the captain. Gaël: "And you, who would you choose?" The journalist: "I would leave you out of the team." Gaël: "So if we lose, I hope you won't be the first one to write in your paper the line-up was wrong and I should have been on the team. 1-0 for me!" And he picks up his bag and leaves, beaming all over his face.

xhr75019
03-05-2009, 06:42 AM
Thanks Tchuk ! (c'est bien comme ça que ça se prononce, n''est-ce pas ;)?)

Truc
03-05-2009, 08:08 AM
:lol: Yes, at least that's how I pronounce it.
(I wanted to answer "yes" in Vietnamese, but I don't even know how to say that, it's annoying there is no simple word for "yes" and "no" in that language!)

xhr75019
03-05-2009, 08:38 AM
Hahaha yes, and quite revealing too... Anyway : Cam on em Truc ! (assuming you're younger than me:))

sorry for the off-topic, guys

amdany
03-05-2009, 03:08 PM
no problem for the off-topic , it's interesting since I was pronouncing it in french lol, so the "real Truc" is vietnamese?

Truc
03-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Yep, and it's a beautiful name in Vietnamese, it means "truthful" (or "bamboo", depending on the accents, but "my" Truc means "truthful").

Forget : "Gaël est à 100% derrière ses potes "

Guy, difficile de faire ton choix...
C'est une des sélections des plus difficiles que j ai eu à effectuer. En fait, la plus difficile. J ai la chance d'avoir ce groupe de garçons qui ont un immense talent. En plus ils sont tous en forme. En grande forme tennistique puisqu'ils ont tous eu de très bons résultats. Pas de pépins physiques en plus. Ce qui est nouveau. Et j'ai dû faire des choix. Gaël revient d'une finale sur terre battue à Acapulco et pourtant Gaël reste sur la touche. C'est dur, il mérite autant que Gilles d'être sur le terrain en simple. Et j'espère que Gilles qui est son pote remportera son point et Jo aussi.

Quelle a été la réaction de Gaël ?
Il aime trop ses copains et il aime trop la Coupe Davis pour manifester quoi que ce soit. Je pense qu'il a dû être un peu touché parce que c'est un champion. Il a légitimement l'envie de jouer pour cette compétition. Maintenant il me l'a dit : il est derrière ses copains à 100 %. C'est un garçon sensible et intelligent.

Qu'est-ce qui a motivé ta décision ?
Gilles et Jo vont crescendo dans leur préparation depuis le début. La surface est tout de même très spéciale. Et Gaël en arrivant un peu plus tard d'Acapulco la connaît moins bien. J'ai pensé que Gilles et Jo etaient les mieux armés pour battre ces joueurs tchèques.
http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-davis/10639-forget-gael-est-derriere-ses-potes-a-100

Forget says it was his toughest decision ever (not sure it's true :p) since Gaël is coming from a final, not injured and he will stay on the bench. It's tough, he deserved as much as Gilles to play in singles.
Gaël has probably been a bit affected because he really wants to play DC. But he told Forget he will support his friends at 100%.
Gilles and Jo have been continuously improving in training since the beginning of the week. The surface is a bit special, Gaël isn't used to it as well as the others. Forget thought Gilles and Jo have a better chance to win those matches.

Jo says they will try to win their matches now so Gaël gets a chance to play the next tie and maybe it will be the opposite then and he will cheer for Gaël from the bench:
- On pense bien sûr à Gaël (Monfils), votre ami. Comment a-t-il pris sa non sélection ?
- Gaël est un grand champion. Il sait faire la part des choses. Il sait aussi qu’on va tout faire pour lui permettre de jouer la prochaine rencontre. Si on passe ce tour, il sera susceptible de jouer, comme nous tous. Peut-être qu’ici à Ostrava, je pourrai lui donner une victoire pour qu’il puisse jouer la prochaine rencontre, où moi, je regarderai sur le banc. »

Keijan
03-05-2009, 04:52 PM
If they lose because Jo or Gillou are too tired on sunday or because of the doubles, I'll personally kick Forget in the *** :armed:

Truc
03-06-2009, 06:23 AM
It seems Gaël really had trouble adjusting to the surface (L'Equipe writes today that Gilles was teasing him in training - "it's not Acapulco anymore here!") The journalist who saw the guys in training really sounds fine with the decision.
My only concern is Gilles' form. Forget had to decide between Gilles and Gaël. If Gilles still struggles, I mean he could have tried Gaël as a "wildcard trump" with his big serve. But that's not Forget's style to gamble like that. And Gilles seems to be playing better again.

Gaël practiced a lot yesterday, strangely enough Forget & Roux used the time slot reserved for the French team to practice with Gaël in the morning (the others felt ready and didn't want to play) and Gaël asked Roux during the draw ceremony to go practicing again. A way to avoid a bitter moment for him and also for Roux&Forget to show Gaël they don't ignore him even if he won't play this time.

Truc
03-06-2009, 07:39 AM
The journalist in L'Equipe also pokes fun at Forget for his overdramatic tone when he was asked about GaŽl yesterday ("un vťritable dťchirement", etc.) I had the same reaction yesterday, we all knew he was going to kick GaŽl out of the team, but he made it sound like a Cornelian tragedy. :lol: I know he did it with good intentions, but it was funny. He seems a bit afraid to hurt GaŽl - we know since 2007 at the latest he can have "visceral" reactions on this DC issue.

amdany
03-06-2009, 02:47 PM
The journalist in L'Equipe also pokes fun at Forget for his overdramatic tone when he was asked about GaŽl yesterday ("un vťritable dťchirement", etc.) I had the same reaction yesterday, we all knew he was going to kick GaŽl out of the team, but he made it sound like a Cornelian tragedy. :lol: I know he did it with good intentions, but it was funny. He seems a bit afraid to hurt GaŽl - we know since 2007 at the latest he can have "visceral" reactions on this DC issue.

I can totally imagine his face when saying that :rolls:

Truc
03-06-2009, 04:43 PM
The shots of Gaël cheering in the stands have been a highlight of this tie so far! He's looking awesome, he's outshining the whole French bench. And his sad face when Gilles lost was so cute.

Keijan
03-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Exactly Fran! And he was chatting and joking with Forget when Jo was warming up, so definitely no hard feelings between them. I'm relieved, I was a bit afraid after the dinner pics.

Truc
03-06-2009, 05:12 PM
Oh, where did you see pics of the dinner? I've been waiting for those pics all the time, last year's pics were so great!

Keijan
03-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Sorry, I meant the pics of the dinner day, the ones where they were outside. GaŽl was looking so grumpy. No I didn't see any dinner pics ever, maybe they'll surface later :shrug:

Truc
03-07-2009, 12:03 PM
I asked on the FFT website, they answered there aren't any pics of the dinner because there were no photographers.

Truc
03-17-2009, 07:20 AM
In L'Equipe today:
Coupe Davis : pour une meilleure communication
À BIEN ÉCOUTER Monfils, il apparaît qu’il n’a pas aimé certains commentaires ayant pu le faire passer pour le « vilain petit canard » de l’équipe de France de Coupe Davis du fait de son arrivée tardive au rassemblement sans préparation adéquate après son passage par le tournoi d’Acapulco. Content d’avoir participé à sa manière avec les copains, il se défend en évoquant un certain sens du sacrifice pour avoir honoré une convocation tout en sachant pertinemment qu’il allait être remplaçant. Dans le clan du joueur, qui a longtemps entretenu des relations plutôt fraîches avec le capitaine, on soutient que Monfils a alerté Forget durant l’Open d’Australie sur son inscription au tournoi d’Acapulco précédant la semaine de Coupe Davis. Le capitaine aurait validé l’option sans rechigner (« vas-y à fond »). Dans ces conditions, un deal aurait pu être passé selon eux : si Monfils perdait tôt, il rejoignait l’équipe ; s’il allait loin dans le tableau, il était exempté d’équipe de France pour pouvoir rester sur le continent américain et préparer Indian Wells. Au final, la multiplication de non-dits et l’absence de messages clairs ont alimenté un imbroglio qui n’a servi à personne. Morale de l’histoire ? Qu’une communication plus franche s’établisse d’urgence entre Guy Forget et certains de ses joueurs.
The Monfils clan insists Forget was informed about the Acapulco move and agreed with it without making too much fuss. They could have done a deal: if Gaël lost early in Acapulco, he would join the others in Ostrava; if he made it far, he would be "exempt" from the Davis Cup for this time and could stay in America to get ready for IW (that's what I've been thinking since the beginning!) But all the unspoken things between them and the lack of clear messages ended up in a tangle which harmed everybody. The moral of the story: the communication between Forget and some of his players really needs to be more straightforward.