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R'dam R1: Llodra def Karlovic 4/6 6/3 6/4

Yves.
02-11-2009, 01:42 PM
Bah. 25 aces for Karlovic :)

Tom Paulman
02-11-2009, 01:45 PM
Karlovic led 6-4 *2-1, had 25 aces, received 10 free points from Llodra's double faults and still managed to lose. Shows what a shit player he is.

Yves.
02-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Karlovic led 6-4 *2-1, had 25 aces, received 10 free points from Llodra's double faults and still managed to lose. Shows what a shit player he is.

That is true. But he did defeat Fed and Djoko :)

Voo de Mar
02-11-2009, 01:48 PM
Karlovic seems to be concentrated so much on improving baseline game that he has lost the killer instinct in service games. His recent scorelines are untypical for him, many breaks of serve...

Yves.
02-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Karlovic seems to be concentrated so much on improving baseline game that he has lost the killer instinct in service games. His recent scorelines are untypical for him, many breaks of serve...

I noticed that too this year, not many TBs.

Kolya
02-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Sweet Llodra...

oranges
02-11-2009, 01:51 PM
Yep, Mika was a set and a break down and came back :worship: Around 50 percent 1st serve for Ivo in the 2nd must have helped ;)

CooCooCachoo
02-11-2009, 01:51 PM
This match was bound to have at least one tie-break :shrug: Both aren't the best returners.

Oh well. The defending champ is through. Wonder how he felt about being put on Court 1 :lol:

Yves.
02-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Oh well. The defending champ is through. Wonder how he felt about being put on Court 1 :lol:

What I find strange is that Llodra doesn't even defend his points. Right?

Loftra
02-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Karlovic seems to be concentrated so much on improving baseline game that he has lost the killer instinct in service games. His recent scorelines are untypical for him, many breaks of serve...

You might have a good point there. Ivo really shouldn't try too hard on his ground game. He has won enough matches already without any improvement. And it's not like it's still gonna improve that much at his age.

Machiavelli
02-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Merci Llodra, always nice to see Dr.Ivo losing....

TankingTheSet
02-11-2009, 02:46 PM
What I find strange is that Llodra doesn't even defend his points. Right?

The ranking system is fucked up, they just doubled the points from last year. So Llodra defends 600 points and he can only win 500 if he wins. But the comparison is much worse for the smaller regular tournaments (ATP 250) (250 points vs 350 points being defended).

So the net effect is players ranked worse than 45th who can't make ATP 500 tournaments really have a hard time to maintain their ranking, especially if they have points to defend from last year that fall off.

Yves.
02-11-2009, 02:49 PM
The ranking system is fucked up, they just doubled the points from last year. So Llodra defends 600 points and he can only win 500 if he wins. But the comparison is much worse for the smaller regular tournaments (ATP 250) (250 points vs 350 points being defended).

So the net effect is players ranked worse than 45th who can't make ATP 500 tournaments really have a hard time to maintain their ranking, especially if they have points to defend from last year that fall off.

True, but what I meant was that R'dam is in another week this year.

Yves.
02-11-2009, 02:50 PM
Costa do Sauipe, Delray Beach, Marseille 2008
: last year's tourneys

TankingTheSet
02-11-2009, 02:52 PM
True, but what I meant was that R'dam is in another week this year.

OK but that stuff happened last year also during the summer.

In case of Rotterdam it's because the ATP shifted the calendar before the clay season 2008 because some US broadcasters who had the rights for IW or Miami wanted to show US college basketball at the same time and that was enough for the ATP to delay tournaments like Rotterdam in 2008 and screw up the whole clay season.

So this year Rotterdam is in the "normal" week like it was in 2007, 2006 etc.

Yves.
02-11-2009, 02:53 PM
OK but that stuff happened last year also during the summer.

In case of Rotterdam it's because the ATP shifted the calendar before the clay season 2008 because some US broadcasters who had the rights for IW or Miami wanted to show US college basketball at the same time and that was enough for the ATP to delay tournaments like Rotterdam in 2008 and screw up the whole clay season.

So this year Rotterdam is in the "normal" weak like it was in 2007, 2006 etc.

:haha:

tangerine_dream
02-11-2009, 04:00 PM
Micha! :worship:

At least Ivo can still claim he has the world's best serve. :)

Loftra
02-11-2009, 06:08 PM
77% first serves in, in the third set and still getting broken...:o

HattonWBA
02-11-2009, 06:10 PM
Llodra needs a good run, defending lots of points here, karlovic must be getting pissed off, lost to stakhovsky in zagreb 2 years on a row, and now llodra in rotterdam.

oranges
02-11-2009, 06:13 PM
According to one Croatian site, Llodra is one match away from getting a pigeon (4:0 so far). ATP lists only 2 previous matches, is there a third one? I don't remember it.

GlennMirnyi
02-11-2009, 06:16 PM
According to one Croatian site, Llodra is one match away from getting a pigeon (4:0 so far). ATP lists only 2 previous matches, is there a third one? I don't remember it.

Paris 2003 - Llodra won 6/7 7/6 6/4 in one of the quali rounds. :)

oranges
02-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Paris 2003 - Llodra won 6/7 7/6 6/4 in one of the quali rounds. :)

He should be asked to comment in that thread about mathcups against Karlovic :lol: And these were all on hard/carpet :tape:

BodyServe
02-11-2009, 06:25 PM
Karlovic seems to be concentrated so much on improving baseline game

...or maybe he focus too much on his RAP music project.

GlennMirnyi
02-11-2009, 06:46 PM
He should be asked to comment in that thread about mathcups against Karlovic :lol: And these were all on hard/carpet :tape:

Well, as with Melzer, Llodra is a good net player with a good lefty serve. Only natural he would have the match-up advantage. :p

timafi
02-11-2009, 08:24 PM
bravo Mika:yeah: