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Federer's clay legacy

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:26 PM
His performance at the 5 biggest events on European red clay:

Monte Carlo - F(2006-2008)
Barcelona - none
Rome - F(2003,2006)
Hamburg - W(2002,2004,2005,2007) F(2008)
French Open - F(2006-2008), SF(2005)

I think never playing Barcelona is a big hit on his resume. He should play it this year. In fact, I think he should be at every clay tourney that Nadal is at - sort of like "I'll chase this guy all around Europe!" :D

MalwareDie
02-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Stop making useless threads.

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Also to note, the best Sampras did at these "Big 5" events was:

Monte Carlo - no finals
Barcelona - never played
Rome - W(1994)
Hamburg - 1 semi
French Open - 1 semi

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:33 PM
Also Nadal has been an absolute monster on clay:

Monte Carlo - W(2005-2008)
Barcelona - W(2005-2008)
Rome - W(2005-2007)
Hamburg - W(2008), F(2007)
French Open - W(2005-2008)

If you do a total title count from "Big clay 5" it's:

Nadal 16 Federer 4

finishingmove
02-05-2009, 10:36 PM
ok

fast_clay
02-05-2009, 10:38 PM
visual laxative

morningglory
02-05-2009, 10:39 PM
what legacy? He hasnt got an RG

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:42 PM
what legacy? He hasnt got an RG

"Best player never to win the French Open", by far don't you think?

morningglory
02-05-2009, 10:50 PM
"Best player never to win the French Open", by far don't you think?

Im sorry, but Sampras is still ahead by one slam ;)

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:58 PM
Im sorry, but Sampras is still ahead by one slam ;)

But Federer has 3 French finals to Pete's 0. :devil:

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Action Jackson :confused:

SwiSha
02-05-2009, 11:21 PM
hahahahaha

meihaditalab
02-05-2009, 11:23 PM
pathetic thread ?

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:29 PM
Best thread ever!

SwiSha
02-05-2009, 11:34 PM
i agree please add Estoril, i think this one will be a one to remember

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:49 PM
i agree please add Estoril, i think this one will be a one to remember

I'm only considering "Big 5" events. Estoril is a MM tourny.

SwiSha
02-05-2009, 11:59 PM
I'm only considering "Big 5" events. Estoril is a MM tourny.

how can you say that? Federer doesnt do MM tournys

besides it might be one of his last tournament wins on clay, i would add it, i think it was historic beating Gremelmayr in 3 sets

Action Jackson
02-06-2009, 12:02 AM
how can you say that? Federer doesnt do MM tournys

besides it might be one of his last tournament wins on clay, i would add it, i think it was historic beating Gremelmayr in 3 sets

That was huge. Titanic stuff even.

Montego
02-06-2009, 12:05 AM
What was huge was that epic with RRH in Monte Carlo.

FedFan_2007
02-06-2009, 12:06 AM
how can you say that? Federer doesnt do MM tournys

besides it might be one of his last tournament wins on clay, i would add it, i think it was historic beating Gremelmayr in 3 sets

:mad::mad::mad: Federer does play MM events(Estoril, Halle, Basel). Unfortunately! :(:(:(

SwiSha
02-06-2009, 12:06 AM
you re both right

2 amazing fightbacks from Roger

FedFan_2007
02-06-2009, 12:06 AM
What was huge was that epic with RRH in Monte Carlo.

So what? On HC Nadal often struggles in early rounds against clowns! No biggie as long as you get through.

SwiSha
02-06-2009, 12:08 AM
:mad::mad::mad: Federer does play MM events(Estoril, Halle, Basel). Unfortunately! :(:(:(

how can you hate on Halle as a FEDFAN ?:mad:

it used to be the ultimate preperation and fundamental in all of Rogers Wimby titles

FedFan_2007
02-06-2009, 12:10 AM
how can you hate on Halle as a FEDFAN ?:mad:

it used to be the ultimate preperation and fundamental in all of Rogers Wimby titles

Well that's true. But in 2008 it felt very "mickey mouse" with Nadal and Nole over at Queen's Club.

SwiSha
02-06-2009, 12:17 AM
well Hertogenbosch and this year Eastbourne i think are options too, maybe he should mix it up a lil

fast_clay
02-06-2009, 12:20 AM
fed has pencilled himself in to play casablanca this year...

miura
02-06-2009, 12:23 AM
Federer has always been a strong contender on the clay courts, his record in the five tournaments is quite good, especially if you compare them to Sampras which is recognized as the player with the most simular game to Roger. I personally feel quite safe watching Roger play on clay, despite it beeing arguably his worst surface. With the redicolous speed reducing at SW19, Roland Garros shouldn't be far from it.

Personally I feel that Roger is going into the French Open this year with more confidence than in previous years.

- He's lost the #1 ranking, taking some pressure of him.
- Nadal has taken away some major titles from Roger (AO, Wimbledon) which I think fuels Roger's desire for revenge and what would be better than Rafa's home at RG?
- People is speculating if his era over and I know Roger well enought to know that he LOVES proving people wrong.
- I have been watching perverted amounts of footage from the 2002-2007 periods of Roger's game and I've noticed considerable changes in his techniques and game. For instance, he has added a noticable amount of top spin to his forehand (this may have been due to the evergrowing slowing of court speeds) and he has developed a (bad) habit to just extend the rallies with his backhand instead of trying to end points or setting up points properly. Some experts and commentators says his footwork is as good as ever but in my honest opinion I think it lacks confidence. I've seen some many examples of Roger running up impossible balls with some sort of playfullness. Now he is more negative in a way when he is running up balls. I think this is something mental though.

Of course these predictions may be miles off. Maybe Roger really has lost his mental capacity against the other top contenders and will never go back to his prime level, God forbid. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the clay season for once and I'm going to follow Roger with hopes up high, but I'm going to have a major setback in my confidence towards Federer if he pulls one of his mental-breakdowns again against the Spanish Machine.