01-29-2009, 05:11 PM
First of all, I think being any kind of umpire is already a big, tough job as although you are made to stay on the same spot, you have to always be alert, and not space out, whether in the hot sun or otherwise, and observe.
Still, the ones that do the job know what the job is about. So its annoying to see so numerous line calls being called wrong; an in ball being called out, and in that sense, Safin and Roddick kind of justify all their yelling.
Is Hawkeye to blame? Is the technology making them lazy? Have they started relying of the 3 challenges too much?
I would like to know from people in the forum who are line umpires/ know line umpires; that do people actually aspire to be a line umpire, or is it something people do out of desperation knowing the perpetual embarassment they might go through???
01-29-2009, 05:24 PM
Never thought of this, but yh i agree they should be treated better.
01-29-2009, 05:33 PM
I have a couple of opinions on this but I'll keep it short. With what is at stake, I've always thought they should be paid professionals instead any joe blow they can find. Secondly, I do think hawkeye has taken some of the pressure off the lines people and they rely on it to much. Close calls they just call out and figure the player can challenge. They used to go with the rule of thumb, when there's doubt, it's in. Now it seems to be worse.
I do think, on the whole, they should be treated better. Having said that, I also think it takes to long to remove one when they keep making error after error.
01-30-2009, 02:38 AM
I have been a lines person in Swedish Elitserien (I did matches involving Magnus Larsson, Enqvist and Gustafsson) and I didn't like it at all. Nobody thanks you if you do a good job, but you can be sure of being yelled at if you make a mistake. Now, the Swedish top players back then were really nice and quite relaxed when they played Elitserien but some of the lower ranked players were jerks.
Being a lines person is tiring, especially doing the baseline because you need to be focused throughout the rallies. That being said, I must say the quality of lines persons on the ATP tour is not great. I am often astonished at how bad they are, especially in smaller events like Hertogenbosch or Sydney. I just dont understand how you can call a high soft ball with underspin out when it lands right on the baseline or how you can call a shot down the line out when you have a perfect angle (good example of that in the Dokic - Kleybanova match).
I once found myself in the shuttle bus of the lines people at a Masters tournament. They were really dedicated about tennis and seemed to like their job. I don't know if more money would improve the quality.
As for the treatment on court, I think most players act respectfully towards the lines people. However, some chair umpires fail to tell off players who harrass them or applaud ironically after they feel they have been robbed of a point.
01-30-2009, 03:12 AM
Is the money any good bjurra?
I can't imagine why anyone would actually want to do the job otherwise.
01-30-2009, 07:49 AM
They need to have professional line judges, but part of being a referee is taking a little abuse. That's why there are rules to keep it in check but people do get angry in virtually all sports and complain to the refs.
01-30-2009, 08:18 AM
The lines people have been atrocious in this Open. Andy Roddick said so last night. He said "fire their fucking asses".
01-30-2009, 11:42 AM
no they dont deserve respect... nada