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AO R2 Simon def Guccione 6-7 6-4 6-1 6-2

MsTree
01-22-2009, 01:41 AM
Routine win for Gilles, never got broken, bettered Guccione for aces 14-12, never really needed to get into gear against a fairly poor opponent who, once his serve had gone, his game had gone.
Allez Gilles! :) and his sexy passing shots :devil:

Tankman
01-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Yes a routine win in the end, but from what I saw the Gooch gave Simon a pretty good match for the first two sets. I was actually quite surprised at how much Guccione's improved his ground game and I really think he'll do well this year barring injury. Simon was genuinely frustrated by the Gooch's service and did well to keep on top of things in the second set. Once that went Gilles's way, Guccione just lost a lot of confidence and went a bit wayward mentally... had a few of those BP points been played a bit better by Chris, it could've been a different story.

Guy Haines
01-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Time for Gilles to break the third round curse.

turtle-rn
01-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Good job Gilles! :yeah:

Kolya
01-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Simple.

GlennMirnyi
01-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Lucky mug this Simon.

Byrd
01-22-2009, 01:49 AM
Gooch had 0-30 on simon's serve in the 2nd, 2 points away from being 2 sets up...

Nathaliia
01-22-2009, 01:49 AM
At first Gooch upset Simon with these aces and successful net escapades; the French looked like could find no remedy (despite holding own serve comfortably).

The monumentum changed when Gooch could break at 4-4 in the 2nd set; there was 0-30 and a challenge that overruled decision in Simon's favour. From that moment on, Gooch genuinely struggled in rallies (even if it lasted 2-3 shots boo hoo). Also later his net game got worse.

Overall, never in doubt.

Voo de Mar
01-22-2009, 01:49 AM
Guccione is shameful winning 7 games in three sets at home with his serve, even if Simon is a good receiver. It's a pity because besides good serve he can hit sometimes nice volleys and groundstrokes from both sides but zero passion in his tennis :help:

ASP0315
01-22-2009, 01:50 AM
complete meltdown by gooch.
but good display from simon who is showing why he is a top ten player.
he was up 7-6 *4-5 40-15 on serve an loses 4 straight points to lose the set and then wind + simon took over the match.

congrats to simon

dam0dred
01-22-2009, 01:50 AM
Very routine. Gilles looked bored.

MsTree
01-22-2009, 01:51 AM
It was the first time I'd seen Guccione play so I was trying to be nice! :lol: He just faded, once Simon found his return against him his fate was sealed.

PeteCentral
01-22-2009, 01:51 AM
This hawk eye is good.

GlennMirnyi
01-22-2009, 01:53 AM
Simon got lucky.

He won't be so lucky next round.

ChinoRios4Ever
01-22-2009, 01:53 AM
Super Simon :yeah:

seljanin
01-22-2009, 01:53 AM
Gooch was doing a great job in holding his serve up to 7:6, 4:5. After the 1st break of serve, it went downhill rapidly. I really like Guccione's S&V tennis, but his groundstrokes are below club level's :help: Btw, I do disagree with Tankman that Gooch has improved his ground game. I think it's on the same level as before.

Nathaliia
01-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Gooch was doing a great job in holding his serve up to 7:6, 4:5. After the 1st break of serve, it went downhill rapidly. I really like Guccione's S&V tennis, but his groundstrokes are below club level's :help: Btw, I do disagree with Tankman that Gooch has improved his ground game. I think it's on the same level as before.
It's like a drunk husband comes back home and pretends in front of his wife he's sober; can last for a few minutes and later collapses. Same with Gooch and the groundstrokes today.

MsTree
01-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Simon got lucky.

He won't be so lucky next round.

He'll have a better opponent next round ;)
It's funny, the more Simon improves his game, the luckier he gets. Weird huh? :cool:

GlennMirnyi
01-22-2009, 01:57 AM
Guccione's groundstrokes are below club's level?

You gotta be joking me. His only really weak shot is the topspin backhand. The forehand is a pretty good shot.

seljanin
01-22-2009, 01:58 AM
It's like a drunk husband comes back home and pretends in front of his wife he's sober; can last for a few minutes and later collapses. Same with Gooch and the groundstrokes today.

:rolls: :yeah:

philosophicalarf
01-22-2009, 02:04 AM
Simon to take out Nadal in the quarters.

brief
01-22-2009, 02:07 AM
Allez Wolverine!

MsTree
01-22-2009, 02:08 AM
Simon to take out Nadal in the quarters.

If he makes it that far! (Nadal that is) :devil:

seljanin
01-22-2009, 02:10 AM
Guccione's groundstrokes are below club's level?

You gotta be joking me. His only really weak shot is the topspin backhand. The forehand is a pretty good shot.

Ok, that was an exaggeration. I am a bit pissed off about how Gooch let the match slip away.

Sure, his topspin BH is very weak, but I'm not very fond of his FH either. It's a very error-prone shot, IMO. Anyhow, I like Gooch because of his S&V and slice approaches, and not because of his groundstrokes :)

philosophicalarf
01-22-2009, 02:14 AM
If he makes it that far! (Nadal that is) :devil:

A very good point :devil:


Only problem for Simon is if he has a monster grindfest 5 setter against Monfils in the previous round.

Andi-M
01-22-2009, 02:15 AM
Guccione's groundstrokes are below club's level?

You gotta be joking me. His only really weak shot is the topspin backhand. The forehand is a pretty good shot.

Gooch isn't club level but no doubt Nadal is, right.

Tankman
01-22-2009, 02:17 AM
Gooch was doing a great job in holding his serve up to 7:6, 4:5. After the 1st break of serve, it went downhill rapidly. I really like Guccione's S&V tennis, but his groundstrokes are below club level's :help: Btw, I do disagree with Tankman that Gooch has improved his ground game. I think it's on the same level as before.

:shrug: I just think it's slightly more consistent and it just looks like he has a bit more of a plan in rallies now.

But yeah, after the first set, I'd have to agree they did go back to his previous level. That's really more of a mental thing than anything though imho.

ORGASMATRON
01-22-2009, 02:18 AM
Simon can beat Nadal if he gets past Monfils. Real mug this Guccione guy.

GlennMirnyi
01-22-2009, 02:33 AM
Gooch isn't club level but no doubt Nadal is, right.

Nadull has worse technique than most juniors I've seen play.

BaselineSmash
01-22-2009, 03:37 AM
Simon is growing into his top 10 place by the day; strange to think of his lowly position in the game only six months ago. He's really strutting about the court now like he belongs at the top, which he does. Nonetheless, those first two sets were really close, but Guccione has a bad habit of flagging after promising starts against big opponents. And the Frenchman's return and passing games were just lethal once the Gooch's level dipped.

Here's hoping we get that Monfils v. Simon 4th rounder.

TankingTheSet
01-22-2009, 05:11 AM
Yes a routine win in the end, but from what I saw the Gooch gave Simon a pretty good match for the first two sets. I was actually quite surprised at how much Guccione's improved his ground game and I really think he'll do well this year barring injury.

The problem for the Gooch is that his ranking has dropped so much that he virtually can't even enter good challengers -- he will have to play futures. :tape:

Aces:
Simon 14
Guccione 12

:rolls: What kind of parallel world is this :lol:

Tankman
01-22-2009, 05:24 AM
The problem for the Gooch is that his ranking has dropped so much that he virtually can't even enter good challengers -- he will have to play futures. :tape:

His ranking's only dropped to 132 according to the ATP stats and Steve G though :scratch:

At the very least I don't think he'll have to play futures just yet :lol:

Tankman
01-22-2009, 05:31 AM
Aces:
Simon 14
Guccione 12

:rolls: What kind of parallel world is this :lol:

That's probably because of the Gooch's return game :tape:

Half of Simon's aces came in the 2nd set :scratch:

TankingTheSet
01-22-2009, 05:51 AM
His ranking's only dropped to 132 according to the ATP stats and Steve G though :scratch:

At the very least I don't think he'll have to play futures just yet :lol:

Yeah I just noticed because 2008 ranking points have been doubled, his 2008 challenger results are worth big points. Conversely 2009 challengers will be worth virtually nothing. That's a pretty severe discrepancy in the ranking points. It means for challenger-level players the 2009 rankings will be completely messed up.

TankingTheSet
01-22-2009, 05:53 AM
His ranking's only dropped to 132 according to the ATP stats and Steve G though :scratch:

At the very least I don't think he'll have to play futures just yet :lol:

Yeah I just noticed because 2008 ranking points have been doubled, his 2008 challenger results are worth big points. Conversely 2009 challengers will be worth virtually nothing. That's a pretty severe discrepancy in the ranking points. It means for challenger-level players the 2009 rankings will be completely messed up.

dark_ambient
01-22-2009, 06:14 AM
It's clear to me what happened here... The Gooch played sublime tennis to ease in the first set... That was his statement in which he clearly shows us that AO Slam is in the bag. Afterwards he thought that winning a Slam on home ground is not c00l anymore.

Tankman
01-22-2009, 06:36 AM
Yeah I just noticed because 2008 ranking points have been doubled, his 2008 challenger results are worth big points. Conversely 2009 challengers will be worth virtually nothing. That's a pretty severe discrepancy in the ranking points. It means for challenger-level players the 2009 rankings will be completely messed up.

Ah right. Yeah it does look pretty nasty for anyone stuck at that level right now.

I see MTF is giving you trouble too :p

VolandriFan
01-22-2009, 06:38 AM
No excitement here.

Just Gilles doing enough to overcome an inferior opponent.

FairWeatherFan
01-22-2009, 07:00 AM
Gooch has no competitive spirit at all.

Deivid23
01-22-2009, 07:21 AM
Guccione is shameful winning 7 games in three sets at home with his serve, even if Simon is a good receiver. It's a pity because besides good serve he can hit sometimes nice volleys and groundstrokes from both sides but zero passion in his tennis :help:

:cuckoo:

sammy01
01-22-2009, 11:51 AM
good win for simon, he served well and was totaly in control after the 1st set. i really want him to have a great run here to shut some people up.

oh and a lot of winners as well.

ORGASMATRON
01-22-2009, 11:54 AM
Real mug this Guccione.

aussie_fan
01-22-2009, 01:07 PM
When the fuck will the Gooch do something in a Slam? You're a set up, 4-5 40-15 and your serving, you fucking have to win one of those two points. Get some passion.

Crazy Girl
01-22-2009, 03:35 PM
Bravo Simon.

fast_clay
01-22-2009, 04:16 PM
this thread is pretty unfair... everyone is focusing on the last three sets...

ClaudiuS
01-22-2009, 06:46 PM
Routine win for Simon? That sounds so :yawn:

Gladly I didn't see that match, i would have been snoring since the first point has been played.

Simon was always a rathly boring player to see, no spark..just pushing and running. :zzz: but now at least he's an effective one, and that deserves some credit.

Truc
01-22-2009, 07:17 PM
Check at least the stats before commenting on matches you haven't seen.
Simon had 53 winners and was definitely not "pushing".
It was boring indeed - but Guccione was the bore without any spark in his game, not Simon.

MsTree
01-22-2009, 08:22 PM
Calling Simon a pusher is so last year :p
Apparently he's "lucky" now. Get it right ffs :devil:

maf
01-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Check at least the stats before commenting on matches you haven't seen.
Simon had 53 winners and was definitely not "pushing".
It was boring indeed - but Guccione was the bore without any spark in his game, not Simon.

Well to be honest the winners are mostly because Gooch rushes the net - either you pass him or fail, easy winners. Simon did seem to push the ball to the middle of the court, at least at the begining. He seemed more aggressive to me at the end of last year.

Tutu
01-22-2009, 10:12 PM
Well to be honest the winners are mostly because Gooch rushes the net - either you pass him or fail, easy winners. Simon did seem to push the ball to the middle of the court, at least at the begining. He seemed more aggressive to me at the end of last year.

Nah, Gilles looked like he was trying to bait Guccione into the net then pass/lob him. And of couse putting it in the middle means that there are not many angles for Gooch to approach on.

GlennMirnyi
01-22-2009, 10:50 PM
Passing shots shouldn't be counted as winners.

That way, Simon would get about 3 winners per match.

MsTree
01-23-2009, 05:58 AM
Passing shots shouldn't be counted as winners.

You're getting dangerously close to talking ruanz33 levels of shit Glenn :devil:

GlennMirnyi
01-23-2009, 06:02 AM
You're getting dangerously close to talking ruanz33 levels of shit Glenn :devil:

A Simontard can't say that to other people. :)

MsTree
01-23-2009, 06:19 AM
You can't have it all your own way all the time Glenn. Other people have opinions too, and sometimes they're even valid. Sorry for comparing you to ruanz though, that probably was out of order... no one could be that bad! :lol:

GlennMirnyi
01-23-2009, 06:40 AM
Thanks for recognising that.

And Simon is a pusher, that's for sure. :p