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Abu Dhabi: F - Murray takes down Nadal 6-4 5-7 6-3

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Rosa Luxembourg
01-01-2009, 11:43 AM
Really never in any danger...

Good win, Kolya :bounce:

Action Jackson
01-01-2009, 11:47 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4530174&postcount=1



THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] This topic did not need a separate thread
[_] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a “Threaten to leave” thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that don’t deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[_] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[X] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[_] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche

Rosa Luxembourg
01-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I thought mods have more brains... my bad.

Kolya
01-01-2009, 12:18 PM
The reason he won: Money :p

Bilbo
01-01-2009, 12:22 PM
donkey is playing his best where big money is

schorsch
01-01-2009, 12:23 PM
I thought mods have more brains... my bad.

mods are allowed a bit fun, too i guess :p

but i dont like that list either :lol:


well done kolya :D hopefully somebody recorded ?

Herdwick
01-01-2009, 12:27 PM
Great list :haha:

gusman890
01-01-2009, 12:55 PM
That time of year again...

Exos left and right. Roddick beats Fed again and people think he is going to win the AO.

Xristos
01-01-2009, 01:32 PM
That time of year again...

Exos left and right. Roddick beats Fed again and people think he is going to win the AO.

So true.

scoobs
01-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Murray d. Blake 6-2 6-2 in case anyone wants to discuss that seriously too ;)

Dini
01-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Its an exho match yes but no player likes losing in whatever way, so they give their best or near best. Also this is good preparation for Aus Open. Back on topic, happy for Davy gutted for Blake.

Action Jackson
01-01-2009, 02:16 PM
That time of year again...

Exos left and right. Roddick beats Fed again and people think he is going to win the AO.

That's it.

Myrre
01-01-2009, 03:07 PM
Good match of Murray, even if Blake were spraying balls left, right and centre.

SheepleBuster
01-01-2009, 03:17 PM
Poor Federer. He can't catch a break. He is going to lose to Murray again. And I honestly don't see Roger beating Murray many more times in the future unless Murray plays badly. In the end, I want to see a rematch between Nadal and Murray but Nikki can definitely beat Rafa.

SheepleBuster
01-01-2009, 03:18 PM
Murray d. Blake 6-2 6-2 in case anyone wants to discuss that seriously too ;)

I am surprised Blake got 4 games. His pathetic game is not enough to even be in the same sentence with Murray..

ferrero007
01-01-2009, 03:37 PM
Any link to watch the semis Nadal/Davydenko and Federer/Murray?

betowiec
01-01-2009, 03:57 PM
I am surprised Blake got 4 games. His pathetic game is not enough to even be in the same sentence with Murray..

well said

NinaNina19
01-01-2009, 04:13 PM
Murray d. Blake 6-2 6-2 in case anyone wants to discuss that seriously too ;)

I do :p.

rocketassist
01-01-2009, 04:16 PM
Only an exo but I remember Murray-Blake in Hamburg a few years ago and he had no idea how to beat him then, so it shows the difference now.

NinaNina19
01-01-2009, 04:17 PM
Only an exo but I remember Murray-Blake in Hamburg a few years ago and he had no idea how to beat him then, so it shows the difference now.

Yeah, it was like 2 and a half years ago.

Crazy Girl
01-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Well done my beloved, well done.:worship::worship::hatoff::yeah::hearts::hear ts::kiss::kiss::yeah: :hatoff:

reggie1
01-01-2009, 04:24 PM
Well done my beloved, well done.:worship::worship::hatoff::yeah::hearts::hear ts::kiss::kiss::yeah: :hatoff:

When I watched it on Sky, I thought of you and how happy you would be :hug:

Crazy Girl
01-01-2009, 04:32 PM
When I watched it on Sky, I thought of you and how happy you would be :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:Happy New Year reggie! The Best for you, my friend!!!!

Spes
01-01-2009, 04:33 PM
USA off to a good start in '09. :yeah:

Fee
01-01-2009, 05:48 PM
I do :p.

Never in doubt. ;)


So, was Murray wearing K-Swiss?

GlennMirnyi
01-01-2009, 05:52 PM
What an interesting thread.

reggie1
01-01-2009, 06:17 PM
:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:Happy New Year reggie! The Best for you, my friend!!!!

Same to you CG! :wavey:;):worship::smooch::hug:

finishingmove
01-01-2009, 06:44 PM
murray will probably win the AO in this form.

Fired Up!
01-01-2009, 07:08 PM
Disastrous play from James. Season doesn't seem bright for him.

I really enjoyed Kolya vs Andy though. :) Good luck to both this year. :yeah:

--

And :rolleyes: at people thinking this is not important. Puh-lease, Tennis is back! :worship:

Fired Up!
01-01-2009, 07:13 PM
Thanks Folklore!
:hatoff:

Why did you bold Kolya? :p

Crazy Girl
01-01-2009, 07:20 PM
:hatoff:

Why did you bold Kolya? :pOh, no, for error I have deleted my replay! Yes I'm an huge fan of Niko: Ciao Folklore!

FedFan_2007
01-01-2009, 09:34 PM
Fed to probably get a similar 6-2, 6-2 thrashing tomorrow. Poor Roger, but that's the vicious way of pro tennis. The young bucks scoop up all the prizes.

Corey Feldman
01-01-2009, 09:35 PM
this new Murray was good

Fed and the rest of the tour are in deep shit this year

FedFan_2007
01-01-2009, 09:36 PM
Yup, I could easily see Murray winning 3 slams this year.

FairWeatherFan
01-01-2009, 10:40 PM
Disgusting cash-cow tournament.

rwn
01-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Poor Federer. He can't catch a break. He is going to lose to Murray again. And I honestly don't see Roger beating Murray many more times in the future unless Murray plays badly. In the end, I want to see a rematch between Nadal and Murray but Nikki can definitely beat Rafa.

13-0. That's the only relevant statistic. This match will be totally irrelevant and Federer knows it. Does Murray know it ? We will see.

Corey Feldman
01-01-2009, 10:50 PM
13-0. That's the only relevant statistic.as relevant as you're face, Hillbilly.

ferrero007
01-01-2009, 11:01 PM
On what channel did you watch the matches?

rosamunda
01-02-2009, 12:57 AM
13-0. That's the only relevant statistic. This match will be totally irrelevant and Federer knows it. Does Murray know it ? We will see.

I couldn't agree more.I'm surprised that ANYbody gives ANY credence or significance to ANY exho match. Sure, they'll try to play well a bit and try to win a bit, but it's meaningless at the end of the day. Kooyong 07 v AO 07 springs to mind. Different mindset - nothing at stake v everything at stake. As you say, Fed knows that, but Murray might still bust a gut to get the win..... for what it's worth.....

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 01:34 AM
13-0. That's the only relevant statistic. This match will be totally irrelevant and Federer knows it. Does Murray know it ? We will see.

Living in the past... The only Federer slam win that matters right now is the US Open, so it's more like 1-0 in the "new balls era, when they entered their prime all together". So all Murray has to do is win the next slam and he's 1-1 with Fed.

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 01:43 AM
Living in the past... The only Federer slam win that matters right now is the US Open, so it's more like 1-0 in the "new balls era, when they entered their prime all together". So all Murray has to do is win the next slam and he's 1-1 with Fed.

good post

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 01:45 AM
good post

Hey I'm objective enough to understand the circumstances behind Fed's first 12 slams(clown era + beating up on new balls not yet fully developed). Anyone could have won 12 slams in those circumstances...

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 01:56 AM
Hey I'm objective enough to understand the circumstances behind Fed's first 12 slams(clown era + beating up on new balls not yet fully developed). Anyone could have won 12 slams in those circumstances...

federer needs more fans like you.

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 01:57 AM
federer needs more fans like you.

If the Federer camp had more objective people like me in it, he'd realize the circumstances he faces and would up his strength training like Agassi did in the late 90s. But nobody in the delusional Federer camp has the balls to tell him that.

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 01:59 AM
do you think he should switch to a 2 hander?

Ivanatis
01-02-2009, 02:01 AM
it's getting boooooooooooooring
overcampaigning will bring you an early exit

I don't care much for the results this tourney, only interesting thing is to see whether Nadal is fit and healthy after his injury with AO coming closer

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 02:02 AM
do you think he should switch to a 2 hander?

No, you can't switch to a 2-hander past the age of 15 I think. The real solution is to build more muscle so that his backhand can be sturdier in his baseline battles against the new balls on any surface, particularly Nadal on clay. Also it will make him impossible to defeat at Wimbledon. But he won't do it because he only believes in isometric exercises and not hitting the gym.

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 02:05 AM
No, you can't switch to a 2-hander past the age of 15 I think. The real solution is to build more muscle so that his backhand can be sturdier in his baseline battles against the new balls on any surface, particularly Nadal on clay. Also it will make him impossible to defeat at Wimbledon. But he won't do it because he only believes in isometric exercises and not hitting the gym.

i was under the impression that he'd be training hard the last couple of weeks. AO should be pretty important to him, if he doesn't win that, he'll probably end the year slamless.

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 02:08 AM
i was under the impression that he'd be training hard the last couple of weeks. AO should be pretty important to him, if he doesn't win that, he'll probably end the year slamless.

He needs to rethink his training, isometrics will keep him healthy but not strong enough to beat the new balls.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 03:03 AM
federer needs more fans like you.

The world needs more people like you, Arsen.

sunsfuns
01-02-2009, 06:25 AM
Living in the past... The only Federer slam win that matters right now is the US Open, so it's more like 1-0 in the "new balls era, when they entered their prime all together". So all Murray has to do is win the next slam and he's 1-1 with Fed.

Yeah right... :o

As much as I would like Fed is not in his prime any more. No one really is at his age (except Agassi perhaps)...

FedFan_2007
01-02-2009, 06:26 AM
Yeah right... :o

As much as I would like Fed is not in his prime any more. No one really is at his age (except Agassi perhaps)...

So the question will be for 2009 - "Is Federer inferior to Agassi"?

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 09:21 AM
this new Murray was good

Fed and the rest of the tour are in deep shit this year:p:p:p:lol::lol::lol:Ciao Beautiful, amore mio!:wavey:

HattonWBA
01-02-2009, 10:02 AM
Yh Murray played really well and so to did Davydenko

adee-gee
01-02-2009, 12:06 PM
Murray beats Federer 4-6 6-2 7-6(6)

Muzza choked a *4-1 lead in the 3rd and a **6-3 lead in the tie break, impressive effort to almost choke an exhibition :o

Muzza must be favourite for the Aussie Open now, eh George? ;)

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 12:09 PM
Adee-geezinho you know what's going on, more so than the Spurs management Redknapp excepted.

scoobs
01-02-2009, 12:10 PM
Murray beats Federer 4-6 6-2 7-6(6)

Muzza choked a *4-1 lead in the 3rd and a **6-3 lead in the tie break, impressive effort to almost choke an exhibition :o

Muzza must be favourite for the Aussie Open now, eh George? ;)
Made it a bit harder for himself then perhaps it needed to be, didn't he?

He could do with learning to beat Federer badly - he gets the leads but doesn't necessarily hold onto them.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 12:16 PM
Neither played well. Both clearly in exhibition mode for most of the match.

Voo de Mar
01-02-2009, 12:18 PM
Murray beats Federer 4-6 6-2 7-6(6)

Muzza choked a *4-1 lead in the 3rd and a **6-3 lead in the tie break, impressive effort to almost choke an exhibition :o


This is characteristic for him and for me it tells a lot about his mental strength.

Has anyone noticed Fed plays with watch only in the exhibition tournaments? :)

opeth84
01-02-2009, 12:19 PM
Djokovic struggled to beat Mardy Fish at Hopman Cup in an exho only weeks before taking the Australian Open last year. I woudln't read much into this result.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 12:21 PM
This is characteristic for him and for me it tells a lot about his mental strength.



You think he lacks mental strength? :scratch:

I think it's just complacency, given that he ends up winning the matches.

Voo de Mar
01-02-2009, 12:24 PM
You think he lacks mental strength? :scratch:

I think it's just complacency, given that he ends up winning the matches.

No, I think he is one of the best in the mental department (his record in "tight" matches confirms it). Losing the leading 5:0 if you win 7-5 or 7-6 isn't a choke.

scoobs
01-02-2009, 12:24 PM
Djokovic struggled to beat Mardy Fish at Hopman Cup in an exho only weeks before taking the Australian Open last year. I woudln't read much into this result.
Can't ready anything into any of this - it was fun, better to win it than lose it, but not worth taking seriously.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 12:25 PM
No, I think he is one of the best in the mental department. Losing the leading 5:0 if you win 7-5 or 7-6 isn't a choke.

Ah, I see. I misinterpreted what you meant.

belco
01-02-2009, 12:26 PM
:worship: murray

Clydey
01-02-2009, 12:26 PM
Can't ready anything into any of this - it was fun, better to win it than lose it, but not worth taking seriously.

It was a pretty horrible match in terms of quality. I'd be worried for both of them if this was a match worth reading something into.

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 12:27 PM
Gosh-darn!Roger:( too many unforced errors! Do you want to resemble Niko?:eek::eek:

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 12:27 PM
couldn't be arsed to wake up for this, but seems like a good effort from clubfed to take a set.

Pfloyd
01-02-2009, 12:27 PM
Any link or live scores for this exhibition?

lisaplenske
01-02-2009, 12:28 PM
quite a weird match, federer looked so late sometimes.Not that ready yet but I expect him to be better for the AO

FedererBulgaria
01-02-2009, 12:29 PM
Ohhh what a lucky a*s is this Murray!:mad: This year FED will show who`s the best ;)

Venle
01-02-2009, 12:29 PM
I don't know what I should say :shrug:

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 12:30 PM
couldn't be arsed to wake up for this, but seems like a good effort from clubfed to take a set.

Yes, he really lifted his game from the end of 2008.

scoobs
01-02-2009, 12:30 PM
It was a pretty horrible match in terms of quality. I'd be worried for both of them if this was a match worth reading something into.
There were periods of good play but they both went to sleep at times, especially in the final set. Wasn't as good as their Shanghai match but it was never likely to be. I'm nicely warmed up for the new season now, though - will be glad for some meaningful matches.

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 12:31 PM
Hey, for anyone of us.....girls!!! Have you seen the new "look" (sport-classic)of Rafa? I like him very much! Finally, an adult man.:worship:

Voo de Mar
01-02-2009, 12:32 PM
Ah, I see. I misinterpreted what you meant.

From my point of view is better to win 4-6 6-2 7-6 than 4-6 6-2 6-2 even if it's connected with losing a double break advantage in the final set. Of course someone can say "you lose more physical strenghts" but I can say "he should work more on physical fitness". The fact Murray lost to Davydenko because he had defeated Federer after tight match for me isn't an excuse. If someone nags about tight matches should look at Edberg's run for US Open title in 1992.

Andi-M
01-02-2009, 12:36 PM
Murray owns this goat. Exho or not. :D

Igaarg
01-02-2009, 12:41 PM
My fave is Roger and always will be, but I really like Murray, hope he wins this exho.

q.j.
01-02-2009, 12:42 PM
:ras:

nice to see Fed safely coming into what now?, 5th trimester of pregnancy...


still

SLAMS ARE ALL THAT MATTERS





:sad:

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 12:52 PM
Hey, for anyone of us.....girls!!! Have you seen the new "look" (sport-classic)of Rafa? I like him very much! Finally, an adult man.:worship:

how do you like davydenko's new haircut?

Sunset of Age
01-02-2009, 12:54 PM
People still discussing this exho seriously? :haha:

That Fed-Muzza match was so obviously an exho, both players having their bit of fun, and Muzza giving back two breaks in the final set... :lol:

Totally :inlove: with Rafa's new outfit. Looks GREAT! :D

Spes
01-02-2009, 12:54 PM
Will Roger ever beat this GOAT again?

Fed Express
01-02-2009, 12:59 PM
Nadals oufit looks terrible.. those shorts :haha:

SheepleBuster
01-02-2009, 01:03 PM
Federer is running out of excuses fast. He has lost 3 straight matches to Murray the very same way. Win the first, drop serve 10 times, get back in it in the third just to lose it all in a tie-break or 7-5. That pretty much proves that Mono is not an issue anymore. Fed's days as No. 1 are over. More folks will beat him this year. I just hope he breaks or ties Sampras' record. That's all.

Elena.
01-02-2009, 01:03 PM
Hey I'm objective enough to understand the circumstances behind Fed's first 12 slams(clown era + beating up on new balls not yet fully developed). Anyone could have won 12 slams in those circumstances...
Maybe a bit too tragic but there's truth in this,from my point of view ;)

Hey, for anyone of us.....girls!!! Have you seen the new "look" (sport-classic)of Rafa? I like him very much! Finally, an adult man.:worship:

Very nice indeed !:D

federernadalfan
01-02-2009, 01:16 PM
fed fed fed...

Medina
01-02-2009, 01:18 PM
Murray > Federer for a long shoteven if it is an exh, some fans are just idiots

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 01:19 PM
how do you like davydenko's new haircut?My adored finishingmove! I don't see all that difference!:oIt's a pity!:sad: 'Cause Niko was blond (with blu eyes), and -I think - blond "everywhere":eek::o:drool::drool::lick::lick: :devil:

Foxy
01-02-2009, 01:25 PM
People read too much into exhos. But still why is he practicing volleys so much? I don't get it. Rafa should pratice volleys. He is awful today at the net.

The colour selection for the court is stupid. The ball is not visible enough. They shoud have tried darker colours.

Igaarg
01-02-2009, 01:36 PM
Nadals oufit looks terrible.. those shorts :haha:

I seconded that. I prefer the old look, but I really don´t care very much. Come on Davy!

Federerhingis
01-02-2009, 01:38 PM
Federer is running out of excuses fast. He has lost 3 straight matches to Murray the very same way. Win the first, drop serve 10 times, get back in it in the third just to lose it all in a tie-break or 7-5. That pretty much proves that Mono is not an issue anymore. Fed's days as No. 1 are over. More folks will beat him this year. I just hope he breaks or ties Sampras' record. That's all.

Federer himself a long time ago said he was cleared from mono, getting back his usual form took him a while but mono thankfully has been gone and out of his system. Well he has been ranked #2 since august so that's not really news. He certainly will lose more regularly now, there's greater competition and the young guys aren't afraid of the top guys, they too have physically imposing games so the challenges ahead will be great. I still am looking forward to the 2009 season to really kick off next week and then really all the way at the aussie open.

People read too much into exhos. But still why is he practicing volleys so much? I don't get it. Rafa should pratice volleys. He is awful today at the net.

The colour selection for the court is stupid. The ball is not visible enough. They shoud have tried darker colours.
Precisely, exhibitions don't even tell half of the story, that's why it was so ridiculous that some people were suggesting Sampras should get back on tour because he beat an "inform" Federer on an exhibition match. Rochus playing at 75% can beat Sampras quite handedly on a slow hard court surface these days.

He really wants Wimbledon back and hence he probably wants to make sure that's the one he wins in '09. Besides if he can master a good enough and effective volleying tactic he will economize and devise for himself a quicker way to victory in most of his matches. However volleying these days does not seem as economical, since the courts all over the world are so slow it will be a tough proposition.

rwn
01-02-2009, 01:41 PM
Very important win today for Murray. As important as the Roddick victories at Kooyong :worship:

dylan24
01-02-2009, 01:52 PM
made me want to vomit when I read this on roger's website following his loss to murray.
from rogerfederer.com

Roger was happy to get a hard match at the start of his season and, despite last year not being his best, he would take the same again for 2009. "Hopefully I can just have another terrible year with only just the one grand slam and that will be just fine."

So Roger will be happy winning just one slam this year? I guess he realizes he is nearly finished.

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 01:55 PM
gotta love what a midget Fed becomes when he plays Muzza

how many matches is that now that Andy has given him a set start and still won? 4 :lol:

tbh Andy must have been taking it easy for him to allow Rog so close to the win


made me want to vomit when I read this on roger's website following his loss to murray.
from rogerfederer.com

Roger was happy to get a hard match at the start of his season and, despite last year not being his best, he would take the same again for 2009. "Hopefully I can just have another terrible year with only just the one grand slam and that will be just fine."

So Roger will be happy winning just one slam this year? I guess he realizes he is nearly finished.yep, his :bs: comments after defeats are getting worse as the years go by

Horatio Caine
01-02-2009, 01:56 PM
made me want to vomit when I read this on roger's website following his loss to murray.
from rogerfederer.com

Roger was happy to get a hard match at the start of his season and, despite last year not being his best, he would take the same again for 2009. "Hopefully I can just have another terrible year with only just the one grand slam and that will be just fine."

So Roger will be happy winning just one slam this year? I guess he realizes he is nearly finished.

Happy New tennis season mate :lol: :worship:

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 01:57 PM
Nadal is going to go through the year undefeated.

l_mac
01-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Vamos Rafa :rocker2:

What an exhibition of brilliant hardcourt tennis the boy put on today :worship:

AO in the bag.

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 01:58 PM
this clearly shows that nadal and murray are the best players today.

the final of the australian open will be a repeat of tomorrow's final.

scoobs
01-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Nadal is going to go through the year undefeated.
never in doubt.

l_mac
01-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Nadal is going to go through the year undefeated.

Could be right.

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 02:00 PM
this clearly shows that nadal and murray are the best players today.

the final of the australian open will be a repeat of tomorrow's final.

With the Dunblane man taking it.

delpiero7
01-02-2009, 02:00 PM
That was impressive from Rafa, especially with all the concerns about his fitness etc.

And you know Davy didn't tank it because of the $$$ on offer.

Foxy
01-02-2009, 02:01 PM
Nadal is going to go through the year undefeated.

:D It is too much. But undefeated in GS? Why not? :D

l_mac
01-02-2009, 02:01 PM
With the Dunblane man taking it.

Then how will Rafa go through the year undefeated :confused:

Stop stomping on my dreams, George :mad:

Bazooka
01-02-2009, 02:01 PM
Exhibition means little... depending on what match and what players. Obviously an exho against Sampras means nothing. But today, I bet all 4 semifinalists were trying to win.

Nadal looks like he really needed those 2 months for rest. He's played very well, and with that level of game, and a little luck, can win many HC titles this year.

buzz
01-02-2009, 02:03 PM
And you know Davy didn't tank it because of the $$$ on offer.

Well, maybe the organization asked him to lose because rafa is more popular and thus bringing them more money.

Horatio Caine
01-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Nadal is going to go through the year undefeated.

...

this clearly shows that nadal and murray are the best players today.

the final of the australian open will be a repeat of tomorrow's final.

...

With the Dunblane man taking it.

:lol:

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Then how will Rafa go through the year undefeated :confused:

Stop stomping on my dreams, George :mad:

Murray will win the match, but the decision will be reversed, due to some unforseen circumstance, therefore Nadal will win title, and still go undefeated on a technicality.

Ackms421
01-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Rafa played okay. Combination of this being an exo and his tendency to play awful for his first match or two of any tournament will explain any lesser play from him.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 02:05 PM
With the Dunblane man taking it.

:haha:

Loving the deliberate inconsistency.

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 02:08 PM
:haha:

Loving the deliberate inconsistency.

what are u talking about?

PiggyGotRoasted
01-02-2009, 02:09 PM
I have a feeling that was a tank from Davydenko, he didnt really look like he was trying and every few minutes he would raise it before going back to flop mode.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 02:11 PM
what are u talking about?

Nothing you need to worry about, Daywalker. Go about your business.

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 02:11 PM
Well, maybe the organization asked him to lose because rafa is more popular and thus bringing them more money.since when is Nadal more popular than Davydenko?

ridiculous comment

l_mac
01-02-2009, 02:14 PM
:haha:

Loving the deliberate inconsistency.
God you're so clever.

I'd never have got it.
I have a feeling that was a tank from Davydenko, he didnt really look like he was trying and every few minutes he would raise it before going back to flop mode.
:lol:
since when is Nadal more popular than Davydenko?

ridiculous comment

:haha:

Champion of the World will be Scottish or Spanish :worship:

jenanun
01-02-2009, 02:16 PM
since when is Nadal more popular than Davydenko?

ridiculous comment

since murray is more popular than federer

PiggyGotRoasted
01-02-2009, 02:17 PM
since when is Nadal more popular than Davydenko?

ridiculous comment

He has a point lol

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 02:18 PM
Well, maybe the organization asked him to lose because rafa is more popular and thus bringing them more money.:shout::cuckoo::awww::fiery::smash:

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 02:19 PM
:shout::cuckoo::awww::fiery::smash:

agreed 100%

Clydey
01-02-2009, 02:23 PM
God you're so clever.

I'd never have got it.



I see the New Year's resolution lasted a whole day. You're back to being a ****let.

Actually, I didn't interact with you yesterday, so maybe you never stopped. :scratch:

PS: You clearly didn't get it, since you actually asked him about it, as though you'd caught George in an error. :lol:

Pfloyd
01-02-2009, 02:24 PM
Way to start of a new year in MTF. :cuckoo:

l_mac
01-02-2009, 02:25 PM
I see the New Year's resolution lasted a whole day. You're back to being a ****let.

Actually, I didn't interact with you yesterday, so maybe you never stopped. :scratch:

PS: You clearly didn't get it, since you actually asked him about it, as though you'd caught George in an error. :lol:

I give up with you, seriously.

Clydey
01-02-2009, 02:29 PM
I give up with you, seriously.

I have long since given up on you. Congratulations on derailing the thread, though.

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 02:30 PM
Who was wondering about Rafa's knee and his shape....:eek: well, I believe they got the right answer from Rafa....I would say: the perfect wellness! Very happy for him! Anyone has the right to be OK!:)For Niko:sad::sad::sad:nothing is changed this year!! Always the same ugly errors....what can I do for him???:sad::help::awww::banghead::bigcry::shrug::h ug:Niko!:hug:

buzz
01-02-2009, 02:30 PM
:shout::cuckoo::awww::fiery::smash:

Is it so strange that the organization would give Davydenko some extra money to lose, so that Nadal will play the final? he is the fixer remember.

SheepleBuster
01-02-2009, 02:32 PM
I am certainly not a Nadal fan but he never takes any match less than 100% serious. Even that match on clay and grass against Federer, he won it. I don't know about you but if I am a player and beat Federer in any kind of match, that would give me confidence. Roddick did beat Federer but he just isn't matched up well against Roger. But Murray will keep beating Federer in 2 out of 3 sets matches and I think he will soon get that 3 out of 5 sets victory over Fed too.

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 02:33 PM
Who was wondering about Rafa's knee and his shape....:eek: well, I believe they got the right answer from Rafa....I would say: the perfect wellness! Very happy for him! Anyone has the right to be OK!:)For Niko:sad::sad::sad:nothing is changed this year!! Always the same ugly errors....what can I do for him???:sad::help::awww::banghead::bigcry::shrug::h ug:Niko!:hug::hug::hug::hug:
he'll be back - dont forgot what he could do to a 100% Nadal in Key Biscane last year ;)

Action Jackson
01-02-2009, 02:36 PM
Way to start of a new year in MTF. :cuckoo:

Rigged.

l_mac
01-02-2009, 02:36 PM
I am certainly not a Nadal fan but he never takes any match less than 100% serious.

He left courtside to go and prepare for his match about 5 minutes before it started.

Lets not pretend he treated this match like a regular tour match :retard:

Mikey :rolleyes:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 02:40 PM
:hug::hug::hug:
he'll be back - dont forgot what he could do to a 100% Nadal in Key Biscane last year ;)Thanks Beautiful Corey!! :bigcry::rain::bigcry::bigcry::rain::bigcry: But mine is a scream of pain!!!!Uhaa, Uhaa, Uhaa:baby::baby::baby::baby:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 02:48 PM
Is it so strange that the organization would give Davydenko some extra money to lose, so that Nadal will play the final? he is the fixer remember.Again?Do you persist in doing?....so....:shout::cuckoo::awww::fiery::smash :

fast_clay
01-02-2009, 02:57 PM
while watching the score today i found... if you take the first 3 letters of Murrays name MUR... and add the first 3 letters of Federers name FED... and connect them... it makes murfed...

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 02:58 PM
Way to start of a new year in MTF. :cuckoo:Oh Pfloyd, I'm so sad!!!:sad::sad: but - I admit - Rafa has a devastating forehand. Too heavy for the "just skin and bones" Niko!:sad::sad:
This year, I seem, he's also more slim! Uah, Uah, Uah....:bigcry::bigcry:Please, some "pasta" for Kolya!!!

Pfloyd
01-02-2009, 03:07 PM
Oh Pfloyd, I'm so sad!!!:sad::sad: but - I admit - Rafa has a devastating forehand. Too heavy for the "just skin and bones" Niko!:sad::sad:
This year, I seem, he's also more slim! Uah, Uah, Uah....:bigcry::bigcry:Please, some "pasta" for Kolya!!!

:lol:

I think it has little to do with food and more to do with the type of event and the nature of Davydenko as a player.

But sure, he could eat more. :)

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 03:21 PM
check this out from BBC :lol:

"An anagram of 'Roger Federer and Andy Murray' is 'A rearranged dry merry fondue'. I fail to see how this is just a coincidence with murray about to destroy the swiss man at christmas time!"

Johnny Groove
01-02-2009, 03:23 PM
People desperate enough for tennis to take these exhos seriously :rolleyes:

Come on people, don't read too much into these matches. Roddick in Kooyong 2 years ago confirmed that exhos mean nothing.

dodoboy
01-02-2009, 03:28 PM
All slam finals will be Murray v Nadal :shrug:

The rest can't keep up :drive:

HarryMan
01-02-2009, 03:28 PM
Any concerns about Nadal's knees (and overall health) was clearly answered by him today; and what that basically means is that Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, Madrid and RG championship trophies could be handed over to him now itself, instead of going through that torture of him ripping apart his competition :zzz::zzz::zzz:.

Bazooka
01-02-2009, 03:33 PM
People desperate enough for tennis to take these exhos seriously :rolleyes:

Come on people, don't read too much into these matches. Roddick in Kooyong 2 years ago confirmed that exhos mean nothing.

Not really an exhibition, more like a non-ATP tournament.

Winner gets big bucks, you know.

And you think when Nadal is on court and facing a player that has defeated him twice, he's not really trying to win?

Or that Roger was not trying everything against Andy?

Did you watch the matches?

Vida
01-02-2009, 03:48 PM
fed should retire...

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 03:53 PM
fed should retire...
its not that drastic

but he should at least quit 2009 already and come back in 2010

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 03:55 PM
check this out from BBC :lol:

"An anagram of 'Roger Federer and Andy Murray' is 'A rearranged dry merry fondue'. I fail to see how this is just a coincidence with murray about to destroy the swiss man at christmas time!"Another good one from you!! Thanks...to try to cheer me up!:hug::smooch:, but......:bigcry::bigcry::crying2::crying2::bigcry ::bigcry:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 04:15 PM
its not that drastic

but he should at least quit 2009 already and come back in 2010
Oh, no! Also Rogi??!!:sad::sad:

oranges
01-02-2009, 04:16 PM
And you think when Nadal is on court and facing a player that has defeated him twice, he's not really trying to win?

Or that Roger was not trying everything against Andy?



Not doing your best is not the only alternative to giving 100 percent. It's a perfect opportunity to test drive some strategies, whether aimed for that particular opponent or not. Personally, I'd be far more concerned about getting in tip top shape for the upcoming events that matter, including using those matches to that end in any way I can, than improving a H2H on an exho and I seriously doubt you'd find a pro who thinks differently.

reggie1
01-02-2009, 04:19 PM
Oh Pfloyd, I'm so sad!!!:sad::sad: but - I admit - Rafa has a devastating forehand. Too heavy for the "just skin and bones" Niko!:sad::sad:
This year, I seem, he's also more slim! Uah, Uah, Uah....:bigcry::bigcry:Please, some "pasta" for Kolya!!!

Oh Crazy girl, you poor love :smooch::hug:
As for Kolya, he needs to start hitting the buffet cart with Nalbandian! Dave will teach him a thing or two about "all you can eat" buffets. :o

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Oh Crazy girl, you poor love :smooch::hug:
As for Kolya, he needs to start hitting the buffet cart with Nalbandian! Dave will teach him a thing or two about "all you can eat" buffets. :oreggie!!!!! My friend! You're here! Thanks!Yes, Yes, Yes, all the buffets with Nalby!!! A smart, clever idea!!!:hug::hug::smooch::hug::hug::haha::haha::ha ha:

Johnny Groove
01-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Not really an exhibition, more like a non-ATP tournament.

Winner gets big bucks, you know.

And you think when Nadal is on court and facing a player that has defeated him twice, he's not really trying to win?

Or that Roger was not trying everything against Andy?

Did you watch the matches?

Exho match attitude compared to Slam match attitudes are just a tad bit different.

Anytime Federer plays with his watch on he's telling he doesn't give a shit about that match

And player's tactics, aggression, gameplans, etc. etc. etc. are all drastically different in an exho as compared to a real event.

Foxy
01-02-2009, 04:47 PM
Exho match attitude compared to Slam match attitudes are just a tad bit different.

Anytime Federer plays with his watch on he's telling he doesn't give a shit about that match

And player's tactics, aggression, gameplans, etc. etc. etc. are all drastically different in an exho as compared to a real event.

Nevertheless how many singles matches did he lose wearing his watch (meaning exho matches) in the past 5-6 years? Very few. I remember 1xRafa, 1xSampras, 1xAgassi(one set match), 1xRoddick...

Anyway onto Doha and AO.

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 04:48 PM
Exho match attitude compared to Slam match attitudes are just a tad bit different.

Anytime Federer plays with his watch on he's telling he doesn't give a shit about that match

And player's tactics, aggression, gameplans, etc. etc. etc. are all drastically different in an exho as compared to a real event.
Dear Blaze, me -too- had put my glance on his beautiful watch -really amazing (a Rolex, I think..)and just I was wondering why he was wearing it....But "Anytime Federer....eccc...." do you, really, believe it?:confused::confused:

FSRteam
01-02-2009, 04:56 PM
made me want to vomit when I read this on roger's website following his loss to murray.
from rogerfederer.com

Roger was happy to get a hard match at the start of his season and, despite last year not being his best, he would take the same again for 2009. "Hopefully I can just have another terrible year with only just the one grand slam and that will be just fine."

So Roger will be happy winning just one slam this year? I guess he realizes he is nearly finished.

I guess he is just trying not to put too much pressure on himself... ala rafa... :)

Sunset of Age
01-02-2009, 04:57 PM
Dear Blaze, me -too- had put my glance on his beautiful watch -really amazing (a Rolex, I think..)and just I was wondering why he was wearing it....But "Anytime Federer....eccc...." do you, really, believe it?:confused::confused:

Roger ALWAYS wears his Rolex (he's an endorser) when he plays a non-serious exho match. It's a dead giveaway. :)

malisha
01-02-2009, 04:57 PM
so how many DF-s Donkey did today?:yeah:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Roger ALWAYS wears his Rolex (he's an endorser) when he plays a non-serious exho match. It's a dead giveaway. :)Many, many thanks my friend for your answer! Yes, I know he's an endorser for Rolex, there are many pics of our hero with it! But I was, already, getting in pain:eek::eek::wavey:Felice Anno Nuovo for you:wavey:

HattonWBA
01-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Murray was great and Nadal was unbelievable, Nadal will beat Murray also

tangerine_dream
01-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Wake me up when the real tennis season starts.

Kitty de Sade
01-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Wake me up when the real tennis season starts.

What, entertaining starving tennis fans, providing the thrill of competition and satisfying a player's sense of pride doesn't count for anything? Jaded. :(

How about a promise of a fatter wallet then, does that turn you on at all? :p

LinkMage
01-02-2009, 06:12 PM
I just finished watching my tape on today's match between Fedmug and Mugray. Never in fucking doubt! :worship:

As soon as Fedmug won the 1st set I knew he would lose the match. The pattern in their matches never changes, it seems. Fed wins the 1st set somewhat easily, Mugray wins the 2nd as Fedmug shows up on court, and then in the 3rd set Mugray hits first by getting to a big lead only to blow it away giving false hope to Fed and finally gets the win as Fedmug shits his pants on the big points. Too big!

fast_clay
01-02-2009, 06:12 PM
murfed...

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 06:16 PM
I just finished watching my tape on today's match between Fedmug and Mugray. Never in fucking doubt! :worship:

As soon as Fedmug won the 1st set I knew he would lose the match. The pattern in their matches never changes, it seems. Fed wins the 1st set somewhat easily, Mugray wins the 2nd as Fedmug shows up on court, and then in the 3rd set Mugray hits first by getting to a big lead only to blow it away giving false hope to Fed and finally gets the win as Fedmug shits his pants on the big points. Too big!that is what Fed is reduced to thesedays

a play thing for the grinders :sad:

zeleni
01-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Wake me up when the real tennis season starts.
Me too.
You can sleep two more days. :)

MrChopin
01-02-2009, 06:22 PM
"Hopefully I can just have another terrible year with only just the one grand slam and that will be just fine."

So Roger will be happy winning just one slam this year? I guess he realizes he is nearly finished.

I see why Fed tanked: double mind games! Not only does Fed lower the pressure on himself with a meaningless loss, he then dumps it back on Gracious Grunter by admitting that one slam is enough for himself. He then additionally calls one-slam years "terrible," in effect reducing every season of GG's but '08 to terrible. Brilliant!

finishingmove
01-02-2009, 06:22 PM
murfed...

:lol:

star
01-02-2009, 06:24 PM
I just finished watching my tape on today's match between Fedmug and Mugray. Never in fucking doubt! :worship:

As soon as Fedmug won the 1st set I knew he would lose the match. The pattern in their matches never changes, it seems. Fed wins the 1st set somewhat easily, Mugray wins the 2nd as Fedmug shows up on court, and then in the 3rd set Mugray hits first by getting to a big lead only to blow it away giving false hope to Fed and finally gets the win as Fedmug shits his pants on the big points. Too big!

As much as I like to see Federer lose, I don't read so much into these pre-season exos. I'm waiting for the real tournaments.

Ivanatis
01-02-2009, 06:26 PM
tough day for Crazy Girl:(

LinkMage
01-02-2009, 06:29 PM
that is what Fed is reduced to thesedays

a play thing for the grinders :sad:


Well, at least we won't have to watch him tomorrow getting manhandled by Rafito for the 300th time. :shrug:

Cloudygirl
01-02-2009, 07:04 PM
I see why Fed tanked: double mind games! Not only does Fed lower the pressure on himself with a meaningless loss, he then dumps it back on Gracious Grunter by admitting that one slam is enough for himself. He then additionally calls one-slam years "terrible," in effect reducing every season of GG's but '08 to terrible. Brilliant!

He is a mastermind.What a dastardly plan!

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 07:30 PM
tough day for Crazy Girl:(Yes, both of them (Niko and Rogi), for today is just enough!!! Better to go bed! Better with both of them!:eek::eek:

Corey Feldman
01-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Yes, both of them (Niko and Rogi), for today is just enough!!! Better to go bed! Better with both of them!:eek::eek:your husband wont like that cg, no space for him :eek:

reggie1
01-02-2009, 08:04 PM
your husband wont like that cg, no space for him :eek:

Don't put ideas in her head Corey! :haha: She's bad enough as it is :devil:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 09:14 PM
your husband wont like that cg, no space for him :eek:Hey Beautiful! You don't know my "space":eek::eek::devil::devil:

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Don't put ideas in her head Corey! :haha: She's bad enough as it is :devil::devil::devil::haha::help::hug::hug::help:: haha:

Kolya
01-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Davydenko was probably paid to lose to make the final more interesting :p

Crazy Girl
01-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Davydenko was probably paid to lose to make the final more interesting :pFor me, final should be more interesting with Niko: better v/s Roger.:p:pKolya, happy new year! Is cold in Norge?

habibko
01-02-2009, 10:42 PM
Federer-Murray point of the match

HigJMzG-bXw

there was also an unbelievable rally between Nadal and Davydenko where Nadal chased a great lob by Davy and retrieved it by a no-look under arm shot and won the point by a backhand winner down the line, too good :worship:

SheepleBuster
01-02-2009, 10:43 PM
I used to be a hardcore Federer fan. I used to say, hey he had mono or this match wasn't important or it's only a masters series or who cares about the French. But I ran out of excuses last year. And for Roger to come out and fell behind 4-0 in 2 straight sets just shows me that he will have trouble beating Andy. Andy was naive last year or he would've won the U.S. Open. If Federer doesn't win a slam this year, he will be stuck with 13 for the rest of his career. He needs to win a slam this year to show he is not gone. Maybe he will answer the questions in Australia but I doubt it. I think Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, and a bunch of other guys can take Fed out. It was fun while it lasted but it's time for the new generation to pick up these slams. So stop making excuses that this is a expo and nobody cares. Federer hasn't been the same since losing that expo to Sampras.

Ozone
01-02-2009, 10:52 PM
This is Roddick's year to disappear out of the top 10!!

Mechlan
01-02-2009, 10:58 PM
I used to be a hardcore Federer fan. I used to say, hey he had mono or this match wasn't important or it's only a masters series or who cares about the French. But I ran out of excuses last year. And for Roger to come out and fell behind 4-0 in 2 straight sets just shows me that he will have trouble beating Andy. Andy was naive last year or he would've won the U.S. Open. If Federer doesn't win a slam this year, he will be stuck with 13 for the rest of his career. He needs to win a slam this year to show he is not gone. Maybe he will answer the questions in Australia but I doubt it. I think Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, and a bunch of other guys can take Fed out. It was fun while it lasted but it's time for the new generation to pick up these slams. So stop making excuses that this is a expo and nobody cares. Federer hasn't been the same since losing that expo to Sampras.

Federer's level in 2009 is going to be about the same as it was in 2008. He'll probably do slightly better in the Masters series and worse in the slams. You can't read anything into this exo except maybe his form, which is about where he was last year it looks like (though healthier hopefully). He's still likely to sail through to the semis at all the slams. He'll have to beat a couple of the top guys to win, but that's form/confidence-dependent. Not the worst place to be at this stage in his career IMO.

Sunset of Age
01-02-2009, 11:40 PM
I used to be a hardcore Federer fan. I used to say, hey he had mono or this match wasn't important or it's only a masters series or who cares about the French. But I ran out of excuses last year. And for Roger to come out and fell behind 4-0 in 2 straight sets just shows me that he will have trouble beating Andy. Andy was naive last year or he would've won the U.S. Open. If Federer doesn't win a slam this year, he will be stuck with 13 for the rest of his career. He needs to win a slam this year to show he is not gone. Maybe he will answer the questions in Australia but I doubt it. I think Nadal, Murray, Djokovic, and a bunch of other guys can take Fed out. It was fun while it lasted but it's time for the new generation to pick up these slams. So stop making excuses that this is a expo and nobody cares. Federer hasn't been the same since losing that expo to Sampras.

^^ And all of THIS just because of a completely meaningless exho (i.e. payed practice), where both fellows were obviously just having a bit of fun???
Come on, there. Un-freaking-believable what people are capable of reading into an exho-match. Should I repeat it? AN EXHO MATCH, 2-3 secs in between serving, giggles among the players, racket-twirling, funny shots to please the crowd, etc.
I hope you're not coming back to fanboy Fed as soon as he picks up #14. :wavey:

Lacey
01-03-2009, 12:00 AM
This is Roddick's year to disappear out of the top 10!!


I hope so :wavey:

l_mac
01-03-2009, 01:07 AM
shut up snoofoo

Mimi
01-03-2009, 01:32 AM
:haha::lol::bigclap: I always laugh when I read your post, crazy girl, you are so vivacious :hug:
Thanks Beautiful Corey!! :bigcry::rain::bigcry::bigcry::rain::bigcry: But mine is a scream of pain!!!!Uhaa, Uhaa, Uhaa:baby::baby::baby::baby:

GlennMirnyi
01-03-2009, 01:38 AM
since when is Nadal more popular than Davydenko?

ridiculous comment

So true.

Goget
01-03-2009, 01:45 AM
Nadal-Davydenko (highlights)

G06o4hd-ZC8

Shakira :inlove:

GlennMirnyi
01-03-2009, 02:41 AM
Nadull matches don't have highlights. They have highshadows and half-lights when the opponent hits winners.

rocketassist
01-03-2009, 03:06 AM
183 posts for an EXO. The world is a great place.

Cilic
01-03-2009, 03:11 AM
expected ones

and agreed with the above comment by rocketassist

Diprosalic
01-03-2009, 03:23 AM
why is fed "nearly done" as some of you say while sampras and agassi could win tournaments 30+
they would consider rogers 08 year as exellent in almost any stage of their career.

if anyone can do that nowadays roger is the one

GlennMirnyi
01-03-2009, 04:31 AM
They're joking, Diprosalic.

It's easy to see you're new around here.

Ackms421
01-03-2009, 04:41 AM
why is fed "nearly done" as some of you say while sampras and agassi could win tournaments 30+
they would consider rogers 08 year as exellent in almost any stage of their career.

if anyone can do that nowadays roger is the one

Agassi did, Sampras really didn't. He won Wimbledon in 2000 and then did not win a single other tournament until his last at the USO in 2002.

Agassi was an exception of course. Federer probably can continue to win "tournaments" for the next 5-10 years. Grand Slams will be another prospect though. Certainly not impossible, but I wouldn't say it's likely either. His level of play and results from 2007 to 2008 was a drastic drop. A drop of that extent from 2008 to 2009 would mean he's done.

kobulingam
01-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Why the heck were they trying like it was a Slam Final?
Roger had the right idea by wearing his Rolex, enjoying the match, and trying to exhibition style shots.

Johnny Groove
01-03-2009, 03:09 PM
They were playing hard, but they were playing shitty.

Sunset of Age
01-03-2009, 03:10 PM
The third set was pretty enjoyable at least, imho - both players going to the net a lot and obviously playing shots they wouldn't do in a real match... :shrug:

JustJames
01-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Good match considering how little it actually means.. Makes one wonder just exactly how much money was on offer!

Well done to Andy though, perfect start to the '09 season.

rocketassist
01-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Hope that doesn't fuck Andy up for Doha.

Well when $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is involved it's hard not to try.

MurrayFan1
01-03-2009, 03:11 PM
Please forgive sportsmen for being naturally competitive. At least Murray will now have a bit of an advantage over the rest of the field pyscologically.

cmurray
01-03-2009, 03:13 PM
The third set was pretty enjoyable at least, imho - both players going to the net a lot and obviously playing shots they wouldn't do in a real match... :shrug:

that's true. I think they both would have liked to win though.

Sunset of Age
01-03-2009, 03:13 PM
that's true. I think they both would have liked to win though.

I guess so, with all that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on stake... :p

Ackms421
01-03-2009, 03:14 PM
I didn't think Rafa was really moving or playing that well. Did you all? That being said, it definitely looked like he wanted to win it and was trying hard to do so. I don't think it was some of his best hardcourt stuff though.

Cloudygirl
01-03-2009, 03:15 PM
I thought it was quite interesting. Rafa played shots I don't think he would play in a real match and looked very comfortable on hard (for him) has he improved on last year again. He was playing cross court a lot also for him and it was coming off quite a lot. He has def blown away the cobwebs.

Without reading too much into an exo I'd be really interested to see what Nole has to offer this year as I will eat my hat if Andy Murray goes out of the Aussie in the first round this year.

SheepleBuster
01-03-2009, 03:16 PM
haha. Nadal lost! Uncle Tony will slap his wrists for letting this one get away. Murray needs to find a way to avoid losing awfully close sets to Nadal and Federer needs to find a way to win awfully close ones against Murray.

t0x
01-03-2009, 03:16 PM
I didn't think Rafa was really moving or playing that well. Did you all? That being said, it definitely looked like he wanted to win it and was trying hard to do so.

He seemed in good shape, but just going for some crazy ass shots every now and again. Why not though? It is an exho :)

Murray was definatley trying hard. Kinda like against Fed in the TMC last year. Maybe the $$$$$ was the motivation.

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Both were trying ridiculously hard. Bordering on idiotic, in fact. It's not like they need the money. :lol:

HeretiC
01-03-2009, 03:17 PM
They had put a lot of effort in this match, going after every ball. It was obvious that winning this was a matter of a prestige for both of them. Not their finest display (far from it), although there were more than a few great rallies and shots. 3rd set was a high quality one.

l_mac
01-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Murray is Champion of the World. :worship:

yellowboy906
01-03-2009, 03:18 PM
Nadull matches don't have highlights. They have highshadows and half-lights when the opponent hits winners.

gooch's matches don't have highlights either. :cool: and that's the truth, truth hurts.

Cilic
01-03-2009, 03:18 PM
game at 3-3 was epic, and decisive

good stuff in general from both

Cilic
01-03-2009, 03:19 PM
this ensures another dismal second half of the season for Nadal

Federer will win Doha

scarecrows
01-03-2009, 03:20 PM
this season can also go down from here

Andi-M
01-03-2009, 03:20 PM
This week was not i repeat not meaningless. Muzza's confidence is sky high the last 2 times he's played the 3 ranked above him he's won.

They were both trying there asses off before anyone says Nadal didnt care.
It might not mean anything in terms of rankings but in terms of Muzza's confidence it means alot.

prima donna
01-03-2009, 03:20 PM
A precursor of things to come. Obviously.

malisha
01-03-2009, 03:21 PM
expected one

Cloudygirl
01-03-2009, 03:23 PM
I think Rafa did care but he had reserves he wasn't shouting at himself for missing shots like Andy was. I think Rafa would have liked the win but didn't give it everything although he gave it more than he should have done in an exo. I'm not sure how hard Andy was trying. If he wasn't playing his best then he looks good this year.

Both look in good form so I'm pleased. I wonder if Nole is playing as well. Could be very interesting this year if he is.

The big question is how good ANdy will be on clay this year.

finishingmove
01-03-2009, 03:24 PM
gooch's matches don't have highlights either. :cool: and that's the truth, truth hurts.

of course they don't.

they have flares of brilliance

HarryMan
01-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Muzza is clearly the best player, he has great things in store for him. There were times when both Nadal and Federer didn't have a clue what to do against him.

adee-gee
01-03-2009, 03:26 PM
Murray will lose less than 5 matches off of clay courts this year. You heard it here first.

yellowboy906
01-03-2009, 03:27 PM
of course they don't.

they have flares of brilliance

are you speaking up for chris freaking guccione? cause if you are, i will LMAO.:)

tennizen
01-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Murray will lose less than 5 matches off of clay courts this year. You heard it here first.

I think you underestimate his clay prowess.

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:28 PM
are you speaking up for chris freaking guccione? cause if you are, i will LMAO.:)

Why would you laugh? Finishingmove speaks the truth.

finishingmove
01-03-2009, 03:30 PM
are you speaking up for chris freaking guccione? cause if you are, i will LMAO.:)

laugh if u want to let the joy out.

because joy is the only thing chris guccione makes you feel.

SheepleBuster
01-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Murray is going to be a beast to deal with for the top 3. Here thinks that Novak will catch Federer as No. 2 soon, and Murray is not that behind. Roger better watch his back or he can be out of top 3.

yellowboy906
01-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Why would you laugh? Finishingmove speaks the truth.

:spit::spit: are you serious? you can not be serious!:speakles:

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Doha draw is out. I'm too lazy to fetch it and post it. All I know is that Murray and Federer are due to meet in the semis.

tennizen
01-03-2009, 03:33 PM
http://qatarten.msoutlookonline.net/Qatar%20Open%202009%20Forms/Maindraw%20Singles.pdf

malisha
01-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Murray can lose form any good aggresive shotmaker expecially in best of 3 sets..he lets them too much space and when he realises that it is often too late..he beat shitty Nadal who play like a 12 year kid these days...Murray can and will lose much more than 5 matches only on hardcourt IMO...

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:35 PM
:spit::spit: are you serious? you can not be serious!:speakles:

When The Gooch is in full flow, it's a joy to watch. :shrug:

Yves.
01-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Is there a live stream for Capitala?

Sunset of Age
01-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Murray is going to be a beast to deal with for the top 3. Here thinks that Novak will catch Federer as No. 2 soon, and Murray is not that behind. Roger better watch his back or he can be out of top 3.

Fantastic, people reading so much into an exho - again! :worship:

Face it, Roger played with his watch on (= totally not serious), and Rafa for sure didn't give his 100% either. Novak's form is as to now unknown as well.
Better wait for next week to get a real impression on these guys' forms. Might be a little different from what you've seen so far. ;)

malisha
01-03-2009, 03:36 PM
laugh if u want to let the joy out.

because joy is the only thing chris guccione makes you feel.

great post

HarryMan
01-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Although it was an exhibition tournament, the Murray-Nadal and Murray-Federer matches were both hard fought, and the mentally tougher player came out on top.

You can make all sorts of excuses that Federer was wearing a watch and blah blah, these two matches were really competitive and not just another exhibition match (I guess these players were paid huge sums of money for putting up such fights)!

Murray should feel really good now as far as confidence is concerned.

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Fantastic, people reading so much into an exho - again! :worship:

Face it, Roger played with his watch on (= totally not serious), and Rafa for sure didn't give his 100% either. Novak's form is as to now unknown as well.
Better wait for next week to get a real impression on these guys' forms. Might be a little different from what you've seen so far. ;)

The Murray-Federer match was a training session. You're kidding yourself if you think Murray and Nadal weren't trying at close to 100%. It was pretty obvious.

Jaz
01-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Although it was an exhibition tournament, the Murray-Nadal and Murray-Federer matches were both hard fought, and the mentally tougher player came out on top.

You can make all sorts of excuses that Federer was wearing a watch and blah blah, these two matches were really competitive and not just another exhibition match (I guess these players were paid huge sums of money for putting up such fights)!

Murray should feel really good now as far as confidence is concerned.

Confidence maybe, but Murray has not really beaten Federer in a grand slam. And Nadal is not known to play brilliantly well on a hardcourt.

Concentration seems to be an issue with both Nadal and Federer - Maybe just a exho thing.

More to the point, yes, he played well, but ultimately the quality was poor, and for sure, compare todays (or yesterdays) matches with Wimbly final quality and there's a world of difference.

scoobs
01-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Fantastic, people reading so much into an exho - again! :worship:

Face it, Roger played with his watch on (= totally not serious), and Rafa for sure didn't give his 100% either. Novak's form is as to now unknown as well.
Better wait for next week to get a real impression on these guys' forms. Might be a little different from what you've seen so far. ;)
The best that we can say about this was that it offered a couple of useful hints - it should not be taken as a roadmap for 2009 by any means.

Assume for a moment that Murray fails to recover adequately from all this exertion and falls early in Doha to Federer, or even before Federer.

Who is going to care about this exo then?

People have a habit of assuming the match they have just watched is the most important thing on earth. It isn't. This was fun - encouraging for Murray, but hardly disastrous for Nadal or indeed Federer. When Murray repeats a Federer-Nadal sweep at a Masters or especially a slam, then it takes on big significance. And let's face it, there's a reasonable chance that he will have to beat one or two of Nadal, Federer, Djokovic to earn a slam - so this was useful warmup, but nothing more.

dodoboy
01-03-2009, 03:42 PM
Murray :worship:

SheepleBuster
01-03-2009, 03:42 PM
say all you want, but I just don't see Fed beating Murray easily again. The match up is not that good for Federer. Murray gets too many balls back and if he serves well, he can take away Rogers serving advantage. I guess we will see how it works out in a few days? Here thinks Murray will beat Federer again en route to the final next week.

GugaF1
01-03-2009, 03:43 PM
When players make exhibitions in a relaxed way people complain, when players play an exhibition in a competetive way people complain. :haha:

habibko
01-03-2009, 03:44 PM
players don't keep telling themselves "it's just an exo" when they are in the middle of a match, they try and win it, if they didn't try seriously they wouldn't be chasing balls or hitting balls hard.

Fantastic, people reading so much into an exho - again! :worship:

Face it, Roger played with his watch on (= totally not serious), and Rafa for sure didn't give his 100% either. Novak's form is as to now unknown as well.
Better wait for next week to get a real impression on these guys' forms. Might be a little different from what you've seen so far. ;)

I wouldn't read too much into Federer's form even based on his performance in Doha or Kooyong, when it comes to Slams Federer is a completely different player, you can beat him anyday in any tournament but it takes something REALLY special to take him out of a slam.

anyway he looks fine for me, no signs of that back problem which is very good, first serve percentage is also high :yeah:

Sunset of Age
01-03-2009, 03:47 PM
When Murray repeats a Federer-Nadal sweep at a Masters or especially a slam, then it takes on big significance. And let's face it, there's a reasonable chance that he will have to beat one or two of Nadal, Federer, Djokovic to earn a slam - so this was useful warmup, but nothing more.

Exactly.

say all you want, but I just don't see Fed beating Murray easily again. The match up is not that good for Federer. Murray gets too many balls back and if he serves well, he can take away Rogers serving advantage. I guess we will see how it works out in a few days? Here thinks Murray will beat Federer again en route to the final next week.

I don't think it will ever be 'easily', but I'm rather sure Fed will indeed beat Murray again. Maybe not in Doha (though you can count on it that you'll be seeing a rather different Federer there ;)), but when it really counts, at the AO, I give Fed the heads-up, if only because the best-of-5 format suits him a lot better than the best-of-3 - and of course as he's won the latest GS as well. We'll see what happens, indeed. :cool:

star
01-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Murray will lose less than 5 matches off of clay courts this year. You heard it here first.

Bookmarked. :p

yellowboy906
01-03-2009, 03:49 PM
When The Gooch is in full flow, it's a joy to watch. :shrug:

agree, chris guccione is one of the best young talent on tour. he can be a GOAT if he wanted to. but there are so many things in life much more important than tennis so he chose to enjoy life. he really is a joy to watch. every time he hits a winner, it gives me smile even when my family is about to die at hospital. i just can't wipe that smile off my face.

Jaz
01-03-2009, 03:52 PM
It's true that Federer is a much better 5-set player.

The problem with Murray is this;
a) He's not won a GS.
b) He's got a new temperament - Can this survive 5-sets?
c) Is he fit enough for long-gruelling 5-setters?

I think Murray will be a future world #1. However, he needs more "bite".

star
01-03-2009, 03:55 PM
I don't think it will ever be 'easily', but I'm rather sure Fed will indeed beat Murray again. Maybe not in Doha (though you can count on it that you'll be seeing a rather different Federer there ;)), but when it really counts, at the AO, I give Fed the heads-up, if only because the best-of-5 format suits him a lot better than the best-of-3 - and of course as he's won the latest GS as well. We'll see what happens, indeed. :cool:

I agree that the GS format suits the aging champion much better. We saw this with Sampras too. I think it's not only the best of five format, but also the rest day between matches that helps the older champion.

Crazy Girl
01-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Fantastic, people reading so much into an exho - again! :worship:;);)

Face it, Roger played with his watch on (= totally not serious)I'm very happy for this, just I hope it's true: I hope you're right Stupid Dream....The only thing I can say is: I was enjoyed very much the match!!! Very, very amusing! And then...yes,we are here to talk about an exho, but I had a craze to see them again!!!The season is starting.....I'm ready for this!!!:worship::worship::worship:

l_mac
01-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Murray will lose less than 5 matches off of clay courts this year. You heard it here first.

Adam :lol:

Yes, I believe!

That means he will win at least 4 Masters Series (not calling them stupid new name) this year.

Clydey
01-03-2009, 03:58 PM
It's true that Federer is a much better 5-set player.

The problem with Murray is this;
a) He's not won a GS.
b) He's got a new temperament - Can this survive 5-sets?
c) Is he fit enough for long-gruelling 5-setters?

I think Murray will be a future world #1. However, he needs more "bite".

He's obviously fit enough. Whether he'll have the nerve to win a GS remains to be seen.

Jaz
01-03-2009, 04:02 PM
He's obviously fit enough. Whether he'll have the nerve to win a GS remains to be seen.

I'm not sure, all the pulling and tugging on the back/legs etc gives cause for concern. Either that or he's a hypochondriac...

PiggyGotRoasted
01-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Atleast Murray doesnt put up with that moonball crap, but then again he was in the final so there was no reason to tank unlike davydenko.

Clydey
01-03-2009, 04:08 PM
I'm not sure, all the pulling and tugging on the back/legs etc gives cause for concern. Either that or he's a hypochondriac...

That has nothing to do with his cardio, though. He has great cardio these days. His knee is always a small problem, mind you. It's something he was born with.

SheepleBuster
01-03-2009, 04:40 PM
I agree that the GS format suits the aging champion much better. We saw this with Sampras too. I think it's not only the best of five format, but also the rest day between matches that helps the older champion.

Federer is not losing 2 out of 3 sets matches because he is old. He just has too many lapses. In 3 out of 5, he has been successful so far, but this year it will change. I don't think Fed will win more than one slam, if he even gets that one slam.

Raquel
01-03-2009, 05:08 PM
Well done Andy :D

Exhibition or not, he's just getting better all the time. Now he has the fitness to match his skills, it's gonna be good :cool:

Jaz
01-03-2009, 05:14 PM
Federer is not losing 2 out of 3 sets matches because he is old. He just has too many lapses. In 3 out of 5, he has been successful so far, but this year it will change. I don't think Fed will win more than one slam, if he even gets that one slam.

That's not true, he hasn't been winning 3 set matches "easily" - as he used to.. That's to be expected. This doesn't mean he will only win one slam?

But realistically, top players vs top players. Murray hasn't been rolling Federer over, it's usually ended in a long 3-sets or tiebreak. Murray hasn't beaten Federer in a 5-setter. Nadal got beaten by Murray in a 5-setter. Essentially, Federer is no longer the clear favourite, but to rule him out despite him having 3 finals last seasons and winning the last slam. This really isn't evidence to suggest his 5-set game has completely dissolved to non-winnable.