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Blake: Headcase or not?

iSzavay.
12-18-2008, 11:05 PM
I have always felt that Blake is such a headcase and just isn't hungry enough to live up to his true potential. I remember after he finally won a 5-set match and they asked how he felt about losing so many he said "I was just glad to get to 5 sets against lots of those guys, I didn't expect to win", or something like that, which I find an strange mindset:o. I know he likes tennis but I think he's just satisfied enough playing, he's not too concerned what his ranking is. Does anyone agree? :confused:

iSzavay.
12-18-2008, 11:07 PM
Not trying to be negative, just wondered what people's opinions were

finishingmove
12-18-2008, 11:16 PM
no

iSzavay.
12-18-2008, 11:23 PM
no

maybe its just me then. idk, just always felt that way for some reason:wavey:

finishingmove
12-18-2008, 11:31 PM
he's not a top 10 player by accident.

though many people will tell you that he's a gimp or whatnot

iSzavay.
12-18-2008, 11:37 PM
I agree, he totally should be top 10. I just mean I think he could be even better and a Grand Slam contender if he was more motivated. For instance, at the Olypmics when he's playing for his country, not just himself, he goes and beats Federer, which he never never does when he's playing for himself. Then when he has the opportunity to get bronze he chokes of course. Once again, not meaning to bash him, I just feel this way about him.

PiggyGotRoasted
12-18-2008, 11:51 PM
I have always felt that Blake is such a headcase and just isn't hungry enough to live up to his true potential. I remember after he finally won a 5-set match and they asked how he felt about losing so many he said "I was just glad to get to 5 sets against lots of those guys, I didn't expect to win", or something like that, which I find an strange mindset:o. I know he likes tennis but I think he's just satisfied enough playing, he's not too concerned what his ranking is. Does anyone agree? :confused:

I agree he isnt hungry enough. He needs to be as hungry as david nalbiandian to live up to his true potential.

Chip_s_m
12-18-2008, 11:54 PM
I think being unmotivated and a headcase are two separate things. I'm a Blake fan, and it would be hard to argue that he isn't a headcase. The five-set record is the best example, but there are others such as a tendency to choke, going into deep slumps, and an inability to perform at his best in important matches/tournaments.

However, I don't think this means he is unmotivated. He is generally very intense/competitive on court. I watched the finals of the 2008 Houston tournament recently where Blake lost 7-5 in the 3rd to Granollers. At the end Blake was noticeably very disappointed (and this is Houston we're talking about). I think many of his comments, such as the one you mention in the first post, are meant to come off as humble. I think he generally does feel lucky to be playing tennis at this level, especially since when he was a junior he never imagined that he'd be playing pro tennis. Hell, he considers himself lucky to be able to play at all considering his severe neck injury in 2004. Him getting down on himself in matches is more a result of an inability to control his emotions, which are primarily a result of frustration if he's not playing well. That's him being a headcase, not unmotivated.

But when he's on that forehand is one of the best shots in the game in my opinion.

iSzavay.
12-18-2008, 11:54 PM
hilarious. You know I meant hungry for victory. I have a feeling a lot of these jokes happen around here lol

Bad Religion
12-18-2008, 11:55 PM
He is garbage . Plain and simple

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 12:03 AM
I think being unmotivated and a headcase are two separate things. I'm a Blake fan, and it would be hard to argue that he isn't a headcase. The five-set record is the best example, but there are others such as a tendency to choke, going into deep slumps, and an inability to perform at his best in important matches/tournaments.

However, I don't think this means he is unmotivated. He is generally very intense/competitive on court. I watched the finals of the 2008 Houston tournament recently where Blake lost 7-5 in the 3rd to Granollers. At the end Blake was noticeably very disappointed (and this is Houston we're talking about). I think many of his comments, such as the one you mention in the first post, are meant to come off as humble. I think he generally does feel lucky to be playing tennis at this level, especially since when he was a junior he never imagined that he'd be playing pro tennis. Hell, he considers himself lucky to be able to play at all considering his severe neck injury in 2004. Him getting down on himself in matches is more a result of an inability to control his emotions, which are primarily a result of frustration if he's not playing well. That's him being a headcase, not unmotivated.

But when he's on that forehand is one of the best shots in the game in my opinion.
I know he wants to win, but I just feel like if he was locked in some intense battle he can rarely find a way to pull through. Its partly nerves but I think he also just doesn't want to win as much as his opponents usually. I've seen him play amazing tennis, but he never seems to play his best at the critical moments. Maybe its motivation, maybe concentration :confused: but the top players play their best on the key points and Blake seems to consistently choke

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 12:08 AM
Also in his book it was funny how he acted like he wasn't getting down on himself anymore. Does he not realize he does it all the time. Now that I think about it, I think you're right about the motivation thing, I think he just lacks confidence that he can beat the best players and also turn around a tough situation.

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 12:11 AM
He is garbage . Plain and simple
such "garbage" he's been number four in the world. have you done that or are you "garbage" too?

The Freak
12-19-2008, 01:34 AM
Another Blake bashing thread?

El Legenda
12-19-2008, 01:39 AM
Huge headcase...when he goes down a set or 2-0 in a 5 set match, he just gives up most of the time.

Ozone
12-19-2008, 01:46 AM
It's hard to say yes or no, but im a big fan of James and there has been 1 thing about his game that i wish i could go up to him and say it to his face. Jame's problem is he is WAY to aggresive at moments. Compare him to a Murray, Davydenko, Simon. These guys are patient and wait for the right opportunity to go for the point. James will just hit a low percentage shot when he doesn't need to and when he could just hit a deep, heavy ball to get back in the point.

Also, James needs a new coach. He could be soooo much better with the talent and charisma he has. Blake needs a Gilbert to show him how to play top 10 tennis and give him a new mindset.

Arkulari
12-19-2008, 03:19 AM
Blake is a decent player, but he isn't GS winner material, he can win some MM around, but I don't see him winning a GS, somehow his game overall lacks the variety and depth people like Muzza, Safin, Djoker, Rafa, Roger have :shrug:

name_change
12-19-2008, 03:39 AM
He's a headcase. He's possibly one of the fastest men on tour, he has a good serve and a killer forehand. His volleys are adequate. His BH is weak. But still, he has some really, really good weapons. However, he crumbles under pressure. Players like Coria who had excellent defense lacked the fire power yet managed to win a whole lot more.

betowiec
12-19-2008, 04:15 AM
complete tool

~Maya~
12-19-2008, 04:27 AM
No

LinkMage
12-19-2008, 04:32 AM
Yes

Serenidad
12-19-2008, 04:50 AM
I don't think he is a headcase versus necessarily him just having a one-dimensional game. You can have a one dimensional game and not be mentally weak. Everyone, even the players renown for mental toughness, is going to have chokes, mental blips, lapses of concentration, and letdowns. That isn't to say Blake is one of the mentally toughest players of all time but to highlight a point. Blake's game is just one dimensional and high risk. He pretty much knows he has no Plan B, and if it isn't working, 9/10 it isn't going to work down 2:0 sets or down a set and a break. Blake is one of the fastest players on tour despite his age. He has a good serve and competent volleying ability. He should get to net more. I think it would help his results. Another thing, Blake's topspin is almost non-existent. With his foot speed and movement around the court, if he had a more biting slice and the ability to create more margin for error on his FH he could be a nice defender when the chips were down.

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 05:04 AM
Another Blake bashing thread?



No. Look at the second post.

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 05:07 AM
I don't think he is a headcase versus necessarily him just having a one-dimensional game. You can have a one dimensional game and not be mentally weak. Everyone, even the players renown for mental toughness, is going to have chokes, mental blips, lapses of concentration, and letdowns. That isn't to say Blake is one of the mentally toughest players of all time but to highlight a point. Blake's game is just one dimensional and high risk. He pretty much knows he has no Plan B, and if it isn't working, 9/10 it isn't going to work down 2:0 sets or down a set and a break. Blake is one of the fastest players on tour despite his age. He has a good serve and competent volleying ability. He should get to net more. I think it would help his results. Another thing, Blake's topspin is almost non-existent. With his foot speed and movement around the court, if he had a more biting slice and the ability to create more margin for error on his FH he could be a nice defender when the chips were down.

He just has problems mentally. Sometimes he has no confidence he'll come through and doesn't try:o, other times he thinks he's gonna win and stops trying and it becomes a big mess (i.e. French Open first round this year). He led Schuettler 5-1 in the third, figured he would win and ended up almost losing the tiebreak. In tennis, it's never over, whether you're winning or losing!

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 05:10 AM
It's hard to say yes or no, but im a big fan of James and there has been 1 thing about his game that i wish i could go up to him and say it to his face. Jame's problem is he is WAY to aggresive at moments. Compare him to a Murray, Davydenko, Simon. These guys are patient and wait for the right opportunity to go for the point. James will just hit a low percentage shot when he doesn't need to and when he could just hit a deep, heavy ball to get back in the point.

Also, James needs a new coach. He could be soooo much better with the talent and charisma he has. Blake needs a Gilbert to show him how to play top 10 tennis and give him a new mindset.
He does need a new coach, but he's too nice to replace Brian since he's been his coach since childhood. The only time I know of this working are either when a family member coaches (like Nadal) or the insanely rare case of Justine Henin

iSzavay.
12-19-2008, 05:11 AM
Huge headcase...when he goes down a set or 2-0 in a 5 set match, he just gives up most of the time.
Or when he goes down a break in the third set when leading 2-0

DartMarcus
12-19-2008, 07:33 AM
James must concentrate not on his ranking but winning some big tournaments.

Kolya
12-19-2008, 07:41 AM
He is cocky... that's for sure.

federernadalfan
12-19-2008, 12:25 PM
yes, he is a world famous ballbasher

manuel84
12-19-2008, 12:27 PM
That 5-setter vs. Andre at the US Open...oh boy

GlennMirnyi
12-19-2008, 12:30 PM
Utter tool.

Horatio Caine
12-19-2008, 05:13 PM
I have always felt that Blake is such a headcase and just isn't hungry enough to live up to his true potential. I remember after he finally won a 5-set match and they asked how he felt about losing so many he said "I was just glad to get to 5 sets against lots of those guys, I didn't expect to win", or something like that, which I find an strange mindset:o. I know he likes tennis but I think he's just satisfied enough playing, he's not too concerned what his ranking is. Does anyone agree? :confused:

I agree with you in believing that he is a headcase, but I disagree about the "hunger" part. I've read his "autobiography" which reveals details about his work ethic and his obvious strong bond with his Dad (whom it is known sadly died a few years ago), etc, and I believe that trying to make his Dad proud of his on-court achievements is a huge motivator for him (maybe I'm wrong).

As for the mindset you talk about...it is a very common thing for players at all levels. I mean, if you're playing someone you freely know is (much) better than you, and you are, for example, holding them at 1 set all...a tiny part of you almost shrugs at the thought of later going on to lose...you've achieved more than you expected in that match. It doesn't mean you try less (or lose desire/motivation/hunger etc) over the next 2-3 sets...you may just lose a little focus, that's all.

timafi
12-19-2008, 05:57 PM
1st of all he's weak mentally

2-he trully does not have plan B

for all his speed and movement he should be able to do better on clay in Europe and not waist his time playing Houston;that's how you get better.

for all his net game and forehand and good backhand he could have done better on grass;his best finish is the 3th round


Serena Williams and Venus have bigger 2nd serves:mad:

he's just a hard court specialist;that's all.I mean all of his 10 titles have been on hard courts;that's why not everyone takes him seriously.people would call Nadal a dirtballer but he makes the Wimbledon final 3 times and is 1-2 in finals there and has made the semis in Australia and the USO on hard courts;his least favorite surface:shrug:

Blake is just a 2nd tier player compared to the likes of Federer;Nadal and Djokovic who happens to be a hard court specialist because let's face it;off hard courts he's beatable:shrug:
he doesn't want to get a new coach;at almost 29 years of age as yet to make the semis of a major(even on his beloved hard courts).give me a break;this is not to bash him by any means but we're just stating the truth he's content being a mere factor on hard courts and doesn't want to be a contender ALL year round and on ALL surfaces

HattonWBA
12-19-2008, 06:21 PM
No, i think he has done well with what he has at his disposal, if you cannot defend and return as well as you can attack and hit winners, then ultimatley you only get so far, which he has. Mental midget - no i dont think so to be honest

reggie1
12-20-2008, 04:47 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/22/60minutes/main1066081_page3.shtml
I think this article gives some insight into Blake's mindset. It actually makes me really like him.

Bernard Black
12-21-2008, 02:21 AM
Serve isn't good enough, backhand isn't good enough, volleys aren't great...assuming the OP is talking about Blake as a potential grand slam winner or world number 1, it simply is never going to happen. He has maximised his talent if you ask me.

new-york
12-22-2008, 10:15 AM
lolz, at the poll being 50-50.

probably because it's tough to know if he's a headcase or just a case.

Blakey. :inlove:

Venle
12-22-2008, 04:38 PM
I voted for yes. :shrug:

But I don't why. I like him, he has a good game. :)