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Players and their political positions.

Stgobaiano
12-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Anyone know what political position different players have?

I know Vassallo Arguello is from extreme left
Nico Massu family is centre-right.

Someone know more about others players?

Thanks in advance.

GlennMirnyi
12-17-2008, 08:57 PM
Players and *their* political positions. ;)

Arkulari
12-17-2008, 09:27 PM
Rafa Nadal's family is right-winged, they vote for the PP party (center-right) of Spain ;)

MisterQ
12-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Agassi = Democrat
Sampras = Republican

(According to an old Nike commercial...)

GlennMirnyi
12-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Agassi = phony.

Hope this helps.

I think he's as republican as Sampras.

Truc
12-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Most French players are pro-Sarkozy (right wing).
Gasquet, Santoro (they both play tennis with Sarko and support him in interviews), Simon voted Sarko in 2007, Llodra drools over Sarko in interviews...

Monfils doesn't want to talk about politics in interviews.
I don't know for Tsonga.

Zirconek
12-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Federico Luzzi (RIP) was right winged.

jonathancrane
12-17-2008, 09:54 PM
Agassi = Democrat
Sampras = Republican

(According to an old Nike commercial...)

Both Democrats (at least in 2000 both supported democrats)

GlennMirnyi
12-17-2008, 09:56 PM
No surprise most tennis players are right wing-biased.

Tennis is an elite sport and the elite is usually a supporter of the right wing.

GlennMirnyi
12-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Both Democrats (at least in 2000 both supported democrats)

Sampras is republican.

He was caught on tape yelling: "go McCain".

Zirconek
12-17-2008, 10:01 PM
Daniel Schapira (RIP) was murdered by the Argentine dictatorship.

http://www.aplenotenis.com.ar/pinco1.htm (in Spanish)

http://www.cl.terra.com/terramagazine/interna/0,,OI2705673-EI9085,00.html (in Spanish too, a view on athletes murdered by the South American dictatorships)

jonathancrane
12-17-2008, 10:14 PM
Sampras is republican.

He was caught on tape yelling: "go McCain".

Cheering for that idiot? What a deception
I was sure that he and Agassi support Gore in 2000, and they had a comic verbal row with Kafelnikov (an extreme right winged) about that

dusk
12-17-2008, 10:33 PM
Interesting topic!

dusk
12-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Agassi = phony.

Hope this helps.

I think he's as republican as Sampras.

Why do you think he's a republican?
He sure is phony on many other issues though.

GlennMirnyi
12-17-2008, 10:43 PM
Why do you think he's a republican?
He sure is phony on many other issues though.

He's a phony about everything, he must be a phony for that too.

MisterQ
12-17-2008, 11:12 PM
Agassi = phony.


:rolls: This was a very predictable post. ;)


Checking again, in that commercial from 2000 Agassi says he's an Independent. Apologies for the error. Here's the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRglUBRCxWE

Stgobaiano
12-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Crapzalez is right winged.
GILdemeister too I am friend of his nephew and they are fuckin Pinochetistas:p
Nalbandian is left winged

ClaudiuS
12-17-2008, 11:21 PM
left winded? don't you mean left winged? :scratch:

ClaudiuS
12-17-2008, 11:22 PM
I always thought that Gonzalez was left winged. :o

Stgobaiano
12-17-2008, 11:34 PM
left winded? don't you mean left winged? :scratch:

Yeah, is my English sory mate.

Crapzalez is just ''opio del pueblo'' can`t stand him:P

ClaudiuS
12-17-2008, 11:42 PM
Yeah, is my English sory mate.

Crapzalez is just ''opio del pueblo'' can`t stand him:P

no problem. I also make mistakes sometimes. :o

well, everyone has his opinions. I like Gonzalez, but Rios is simply the legend of Chilean Tennis. And personally I haven't checked much about political positions of tennis players.

Action Jackson
12-18-2008, 12:08 AM
Volandri is centre right. I think he said that somewhere on his site.

shotgun
12-18-2008, 01:02 AM
Interesting topic, it should be on GM actually.

Albop
12-18-2008, 01:22 AM
I always thought that Gonzalez was left winged. :o

Me too :o

prima donna
12-18-2008, 04:15 AM
James Blake- far-left zealot; fervent supporter of B. Hussein Obama.

Zirconek
12-18-2008, 04:26 AM
James Blake- far-left zealot; fervent supporter of B. Hussein Obama.


What would happen to him if he lived under McCarthyism? :eek:

dusk
12-18-2008, 05:19 AM
James Blake- far-left zealot; fervent supporter of B. Hussein Obama.

Blake is not far left. He's center leaning, just like Obama.

prima donna
12-18-2008, 05:49 AM
Blake is not far left. He's center leaning, just like Obama.
Hahahaha.

Truc
12-18-2008, 12:02 PM
Noah is left wing, he was one of the most famous supporters of Sarko's opponent for the last elections (Royal), he even said he would leave France if Sarko won ("Si jamais Sarkozy passe, je me casse!"), etc. (He did leave France, afaik, but said it's not because of Sarko.)

I checked an interview of Tsonga where I remembered he was asked about it lately, but he doesn't want to answer the question, says he's interested, but he lacks the background, he only accepts to talk about the racism issue.
http://www.lejdd.fr/cmc/sport/200845/tsonga-j-en-impose-_163609.html

I know Clément sounded quite interested in politics at the time of the presidential elections and said one of the ecologists appealed to him.

CooCooCachoo
12-18-2008, 12:12 PM
Clément = écolo? :eek: :cool:

CooCooCachoo
12-18-2008, 12:14 PM
Anyone know what political position different players have?

I know Vassallo Arguello is from extreme left
Nico Massu family is centre-right.

Someone know more about others players?

Thanks in advance.

I read that about MVA before. Really interesting.

Also didn't know Santoro, Simon and Llodra are such Sarkozy fanboys. Not a good sign :unsure: :p

Action Jackson
12-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Björkman supports the Social Democrats in Sweden and Edberg supports the other side, the centre rightists.

PD, stop talking out of your arse when it comes to Obama. He would be lucky to know where the left is.

Truc
12-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Also didn't know Santoro, Simon and Llodra are such Sarkozy fanboys. Not a good sign :unsure: :pSantoro is quite the Sarko fanboy! Choupi translated an interview of him in his forum a few years ago:FS: Nicolas [Sarkozy], he's a friend. For about 10 years now. That's somebody I like a lot, a friend, and as he's into politics, I'm getting interested, as a matter of fact, in politics. I'm following his career, closely, and he also follows mine. I often call him, to ask him for his opinion. He's got an incredible insight. He's got that ability to analyze situations, to see things much faster than anybody else and he's always of good advice.

TM: Are you a militant of UMP? [Sarko's party]
FS: No, I don't have any membership card. But, I don't hesitate to support him, publicly, whenever I can, as I had done in his big meeting in Le Bourget.

Llodra clearly said in an interview lately he came back to France because of Sarkozy's win ^^ (he was living in Switzerland like the rest of the bunch).

As for Simon, I know he voted Sarkozy in 2007 because he said it in an interview at the time. I haven't seen him drool over Sarko since then, but I don't have much hope (he said once he even considers going into politics after his tennis career).

Zirconek
12-18-2008, 12:32 PM
Does any French player openly support Le Pen? :scared:

prima donna
12-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Björkman supports the Social Democrats in Sweden and Edberg supports the other side, the centre rightists.

PD, stop talking out of your arse when it comes to Obama. He would be lucky to know where the left is.
Based on whose standards ? Those set by the European Union or those set by formidable political parties based in the United States ? In the case of the former, one would encounter immense difficulty in attempting to execute the task of successfully labeling even the most liberal of American politicians as such -- including the likes of Bernie Sanders, who just happens to be a self-proclaimed socialist.

Moreover, it seems rather odd to compare one extreme to another. Is Obama to be exonerated of all charges of extreme leftism based upon the premise that when compared to European politicians, he actually seems to be slightly sane ?

Lastly, is the fact that a politician boasting a voting record similar or identical to that of Barack Obama's could be considered moderate when compared to European leftists an indicator of extremism on the part of Europeans or Americans ?

Ultimately, we're comparing apples and oranges.

Action Jackson
12-18-2008, 01:12 PM
Simple, there isn't a proper left wing movement anywhere within the Western nations. Considering that there has been a clear divergence between the respective sides in politics and that has happened since the 80s and no there has not been a shift to a greater differential, between these parties. The political parties that were originally formed by unions and leftists have moved to the centre, because basically they had to adjust to the political climate of that time, perfect example Anthony Blair, is in no way a leftist, he made sure he wasn't and it got him elected.

It's an absolute non-argument. So if you want to go around in circles going on about how much a communist Obama is, then don't expect to even come close to having a rational discussion on this.

Or do you really want me to go into detail as to why Obama could never be a leftist? It's not that hard to understand, you could accept that Nadal won Wimbledon.

ClaudiuS
12-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Does any French player openly support Le Pen? :scared:

:lol:

or any Austrian player that supported that extreme right winged Austrian, that died this year.

Crazy Girl
12-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Party? Il partito del "Rombo"

prima donna
12-18-2008, 01:26 PM
So if you want to go around in circles going on about how much a communist Obama is

I don't recall having referred to Barack Obama as a communist. However, I have accused him of behaving socialistically, although the same could be said with respect to President Bush. In terms of his ideological approach, President-elect Obama is the quintessential liberal -- at least based upon the criteria which are typically used to assess American politicians.

Moreover, any argument pertaining to arbitrary distinctions between "authentic" leftism -- as opposed to "faux" leftism, is purely academic and irrelevant, inasmuch as the criteria by which contemporary politicians are to be judged are largely based upon standards which derive from the sort of diluted leftism that seems to trouble you so.

In other words, the center, the right and the left are in constant motion. It's absurd to think that one can apply the same standards by which leftism was judged decades ago in an attempt to make a select politician appear to be some sort of a centrist whose belief system has more to do with pragmatism and less to do with traditional leftist agendas -- which despite being diluted, nevertheless remain classical tenets of leftism.

Bilbo
12-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Roddick = Republican and Bush lover

Saumon
12-18-2008, 03:29 PM
Santoro is quite the Sarko fanboy! Choupi translated an interview of him in his forum a few years ago:

Llodra clearly said in an interview lately he came back to France because of Sarkozy's win ^^ (he was living in Switzerland like the rest of the bunch).

As for Simon, I know he voted Sarkozy in 2007 because he said it in an interview at the time. I haven't seen him drool over Sarko since then, but I don't have much hope (he also said once he even considers going into politics after his tennis career).

Also many French players are part of the team Lagardère, Arnaud being one of Sarko's best friends. :o


If I remember well, Sarkozy was Leconte's lawyer back in the days. I heard a story that they had dinner together the night before Leconte's RG final and Sarko had even written a victory speech for him. :tape:
Bahrami was also seen at Sarko's last election meeting in Bercy.

*snowflake*
12-18-2008, 04:00 PM
I must say that i'm surprised to see that many right winged young ppl...

And if Gonzalez is indeed a Pinochetista, well then i gotta admit that i'm disappointed

Arkulari
12-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Roddick = Republican and Bush lover

that doesn't surprise me, he seems to be a conservative WASP :shrug:

Saumon
12-18-2008, 04:11 PM
that doesn't surprise me, he seems to be a conservative WASP :shrug:

I think he is catholic. :p

tangerine_dream
12-18-2008, 04:15 PM
:lol: I was wondering how long it would take before Bilbo showed up spewing his usual bullshit.

Arkulari
12-18-2008, 04:15 PM
really? thanks for the correction then, he's still an All-American kind of dude :lol:

Tangerine, then Andy is a democrat? :scratch:

Bilbo
12-18-2008, 04:43 PM
Tangerine, then Andy is a democrat? :scratch:

bullshit, he's republican. he even had a meeting with bush one time. don't believe what tangy is telling you.

btw capriati is also republican (as hard as possible)

tangerine_dream
12-18-2008, 05:05 PM
bullshit, he's republican. he even had a meeting with bush one time. don't believe what tangy is telling you.
Bush Sr. has met a lot of American tennis players because he's a huge tennis fan. He's even friends with Agassi, who's not a Republican.

Shoo. Back to the basement you go.

CooCooCachoo
12-18-2008, 06:13 PM
I don't recall having referred to Barack Obama as a communist. However, I have accused him of behaving socialistically, although the same could be said with respect to President Bush. In terms of his ideological approach, President-elect Obama is the quintessential liberal -- at least based upon the criteria which are typically used to assess American politicians.

Moreover, any argument pertaining to arbitrary distinctions between "authentic" leftism -- as opposed to "faux" leftism, is purely academic and irrelevant, inasmuch as the criteria by which contemporary politicians are to be judged are largely based upon standards which derive from the sort of diluted leftism that seems to trouble you so.

In other words, the center, the right and the left are in constant motion. It's absurd to think that one can apply the same standards by which leftism was judged decades ago in an attempt to make a select politician appear to be some sort of a centrist whose belief system has more to do with pragmatism and less to do with traditional leftist agendas -- which despite being diluted, nevertheless remain classical tenants of leftism.

I think most US Democrats, when transposed into a Western European political context, would be centrist at best (or worst, depending on your political viewpoint).

Obama's socialist tendencies are overhyped, largely erroneous and where they hold some truth they are grossly exaggerated.

Bilbo
12-18-2008, 06:44 PM
Bush Sr. has met a lot of American tennis players because he's a huge tennis fan. He's even friends with Agassi, who's not a Republican.

Shoo. Back to the basement you go.

so you say roddick is a democrat? :lol:

i mean it was clear agassi is a democrat knowing his character but roddick???

Roseisarose
12-18-2008, 06:54 PM
I think most US Democrats, when transposed into a Western European political context, would be centrist at best (or worst, depending on your political viewpoint).

Obama's socialist tendencies are overhyped, largely erroneous and where they hold some truth they are grossly exaggerated.


Well-said, all of this. The US left and right do not correspond to their supposed European counterparts. Moreover, there are too many philosophical discrepancies both within and amongst countries' political systems for us to speak of a unified European left and right. So in reference to the tennis players' views, it is better to state the actual party or politician(s) they support; it is arbitrary to say they are left or right.

Someone wrote in an earlier page that tennis is an elite sport, so most tennis players are conservative. Actually, wealth/power and conservative political beliefs are not mutually exclusive or dependent. Furthermore, again the idea of conservative vs. liberal is meaningless without knowing the stance of a particular political party; a player's "conservatism" may be completely "liberal" and vice versa according to the context and/or nation.

Having digressed all that so diplomatically, this thread made me very sad. I'd rather be innocent to the tennis players' political beliefs, because some of them seem to support very nationalist parties. Tennis is one of the most global sports, and also so many players are expatriates. Where is their cultural empathy, their openness, and acceptance of difference? (Yes, I am idealistic. Yes, I realize that is naive. But still...)

I am most curious about the Russians' political beliefs, but I'm not sure I want to know.:sad:

tangerine_dream
12-18-2008, 07:20 PM
so you say roddick is a democrat? :lol:

i mean it was clear agassi is a democrat knowing his character but roddick???
Just because somebody is not a Republican does not automatically make them a Democrat.

Just because somebody lives in Texas does not mean they're a gun-waving, gay-bashing, right-wing fanatic.

Just because somebody shook hands with the President doesn't mean that person ascribes to the President's ideology.

Your problem is that you are too narrow-minded and see everything as being either black or white, left or right, there are no shades of gray and you do not recognize nuances.

Your other problem is that you think Dubai is awesome. You have more than one screw loose. Please seek help. :hug:

dusk
12-18-2008, 08:30 PM
Hahahaha.

For my standards, they're both conservative.

Chip_s_m
12-18-2008, 09:30 PM
bullshit, he's republican. he even had a meeting with bush one time. don't believe what tangy is telling you.

btw capriati is also republican (as hard as possible)

Obama has had a few meetings with Bush too. What's your point?

Not everything Bush does involves politics. He likes tennis, and being an American and from Texas it's not too surprising that he likes Roddick. Roddick agreeing to meet with him doesn't suggest anything about his political beliefs. Unless you've heard him discussing his political beliefs it's inappropriate to declare with certainty what they are. However, there is nothing wrong speculating based on his characteristics, so long as you qualify it by saying that you're just speculating and aren't certain (but you didn't do that).

You're from Germany, and I'm assuming your ancestors are too. However, I'm not going to declare that any of them who were alive in the 1930's-1940's were Nazi supporters. Regardless of whether or not they were, I wouldn't have the facts to support that statement, similar to how you've given no indication that you have relevant evidence indicating that Roddick is a Bush-supporter.

For someone as argumentative as yourself one would think you'd be better at it.

Black Adam
12-18-2008, 10:00 PM
I see Bilbo and Prima Donna hit top form in this thread.

JolánGagó
12-18-2008, 10:16 PM
Simple, there isn't a proper left wing movement anywhere within the Western nations. Considering that there has been a clear divergence between the respective sides in politics and that has happened since the 80s and no there has not been a shift to a greater differential, between these parties. The political parties that were originally formed by unions and leftists have moved to the centre, because basically they had to adjust to the political climate of that time, perfect example Anthony Blair, is in no way a leftist, he made sure he wasn't and it got him elected.

It's an absolute non-argument. So if you want to go around in circles going on about how much a communist Obama is, then don't expect to even come close to having a rational discussion on this.

Or do you really want me to go into detail as to why Obama could never be a leftist? It's not that hard to understand, you could accept that Nadal won Wimbledon.

What changed was society and as a result the political climate. What do you mean by "left" in the first sentence? I assume the communist and similar, as you mention what Obama isn't. Yes, there is none of that of relevance not "within the western nations" but anywhere in the world where some prosperity is to be found. Marxism shaped XXth century, by the 80s it was already clear it had been a huge costly failure. In every place where commies took power or influenced it, usually by violence, misery and opression ensued. There where "right winged" principles stood (rule of law, market economy) people and societies prospered.

Zirconek
12-22-2008, 03:58 PM
Daniel Schapira (RIP) was murdered by the Argentine dictatorship.

http://www.aplenotenis.com.ar/pinco1.htm (in Spanish)

http://www.cl.terra.com/terramagazine/interna/0,,OI2705673-EI9085,00.html (in Spanish too, a view on athletes murdered by the South American dictatorships)


I'm a bit surprised this post didn't cause any reaction. :sad: although it happened many years ago, every time the death of a tennis player is announced (like Luzzi or Daniela Klemenschits) there is a big and touching reaction from the members of MTF, and I'm quite sure even many, if not most, of Argie posters of MTF didn't know Schapira's history and tragic fate.

I'd appreciate if a Spanish speaking poster could make the translation into English of his history - his wife, Andrea Yankilevitch, was murdered too, she was pregnant when Daniel was arrested and he never knew he would be father. Their son, named like his father - Daniel Schapira- was raised by his grandparents (unlike many others babies who were took of their family and gave to adoption).

Roseisarose
12-22-2008, 07:30 PM
What changed was society and as a result the political climate. What do you mean by "left" in the first sentence? I assume the communist and similar, as you mention what Obama isn't. Yes, there is none of that of relevance not "within the western nations" but anywhere in the world where some prosperity is to be found. Marxism shaped XXth century, by the 80s it was already clear it had been a huge costly failure. In every place where commies took power or influenced it, usually by violence, misery and opression ensued. There where "right winged" principles stood (rule of law, market economy) people and societies prospered.

Left-wing politics refers to a lot more movements and philosophies than just communism. Countries that have been dominated by left-wing principles have also prospered. For example, Sweden is governed by strongly socialist principles, and it's considered to have one of the highest living standards in the world.

Action Jackson
12-24-2008, 01:51 AM
I'm a bit surprised this post didn't cause any reaction. :sad: although it happened many years ago, every time the death of a tennis player is announced (like Luzzi or Daniela Klemenschits) there is a big and touching reaction from the members of MTF, and I'm quite sure even many, if not most, of Argie posters of MTF didn't know Schapira's history and tragic fate.

I'd appreciate if a Spanish speaking poster could make the translation into English of his history - his wife, Andrea Yankilevitch, was murdered too, she was pregnant when Daniel was arrested and he never knew he would be father. Their son, named like his father - Daniel Schapira- was raised by his grandparents (unlike many others babies who were took of their family and gave to adoption).

Just shows how brutal the dictatorship was and this is a horrible story.

alfonsojose
12-24-2008, 05:37 AM
:scared:

Roseisarose
12-24-2008, 06:14 PM
I'm having trouble finding any information in English about Schapira.

LinkMage
12-30-2008, 11:32 PM
Ok, here is my translation on the article about Schapira (edited by Jenni :worship:).

Tribute to Daniel Schapira,
the only tennis player disappeared during the dictatorship

It was the month of September 1973, and even though I was a tennis fan - a sport which was still not very popular because the Vilas boom had not yet occurred - and had made it clear that I was going to dedicate myself to journalism, I thought that tennis professors only had a ball or a grip on their minds. The “coach” at my club, Macabi, was blond, tall, good-looking and played very well, and on his first appearance he didn’t escape those classifications, in a similar fashion to models or “good-looking girls”.

After school I went to the Congress to attend a manifestation, held against the fall of the Chilean democratic government of Salvador Allende to the hands of the dictator and genocide organiser Augusto Pinochet. At the front of the march, shouting “Viva Chile, carajo…” there he stood, Dani Schapira, the “coach”. Of course, from that moment on my impression of him changed completely.

The conversations with him, on the other side of court 6 - where Dani imparted his classes - became more frequent and were not only about tennis, our main topic, but about political, social, philosophical, and religious themes. He was an advanced Law student and had a very high intellectual grounding.

Daniel Marcelo Schapira was born October 18, 1950. He played in GEBA until 1968 and in 1969 he transferred to Comercio, where he played in the intermediate category. However, he also went to train at San Lorenzo (even though he was a Racing fan) together with his brother, Edgardo “Topo” Schapira, 4 years younger than him, when the club was very close to his father’s house. I saw him playing there in a tournament organized by his father, on a wooden surface. He was ranked 3 times in the top 10 in the national players ranking. He was in the same generation of players as Ricardo Cano, Huguito Varela, “Bicho” Romani, and his two great friends, “Mono” Miceli and “Pancho” Mastelli.

He started giving classes in DAOM and then went to Macabi, recommending Cesar Dialoy to occupy his place. Dialoy commented to us that in one tournament Dani lost to a guy two years younger than us, who came from Mar del Plata and I had to face him and we didn’t know him. Daniel was very angry about his loss, and he told me “I lost it myself - he’s a lefty that has a little game, and I played to his backhand. He hits it with a very twisted effect; that guy was Guillermo Vilas”.

His intellectual level allowed him be selected as an assistant for the Constitutional Law subject, in charge of Rodolfo Ortega Peña (assassinated by the “Tres A” in 1974) and Eduardo Luis Duhalde. He was then in Córdoba, where he was an important part of the JUP (Juventud Universitaria Peronista, a political party). There, in 1976 in the middle of the Military Dictatorship, he was chased and received three shots from “the forces of the terrorism of State’”. It is good to point out that the only thing Daniel wielded was a tennis racket, and the sharpest things he possessed were his clear ideas: his dreams of social justice and a more equable society.

Even though he was wounded, thanks to his great physical condition he managed to escape and arrive at Buenos Aires by train, with a cast and in a wheelchair. His brother, “el Topo”, tells: “Given the graveness of the situation, my dad tried to convince him to leave the country, but he emphatically refused, stating that he was defending his ideals and rights. He considered that to leave the country was to betray and abandon his partners”.

He was intensely searched in Buenos Aires and his life of being a political fugitive made him sleep every night in a different place. However, from clandestinity, he called his brother almost every day to know about his family and his tennis activity. “Despite the horror he was going through, his passion for tennis made him recommend to me which tactic to play against the rival I was facing next”, says “el Topo”.

Finally on April 7, 1977, when he was travelling by bus, a Task Force kidnapped him.

Last year in Mexico, Miguel Angel Cavallo, an Argentine ex-repressor, was arrested. There is an order of extradition from the Judge Baltazar Garzón, from Spain, who states: “The acts which he is accused of in the document are those which refer to his participation in the disappearance and torture of 227 persons. This was recorded in the Cause 13/84, whose verdict was dictated by the National Chamber of Criminal and Correctional Appeals of Buenos Aires. As a result of what was ordered in point 30 of the sentence dictated in cause 13, the Argentine office of prosecutors presented a document of accusation in the context of the cause n° 761. This judicial procedure didn’t continue its course when the Law 23.492 about “Final Point” was promulgated on December 24, 1986. This law exonerated everyone responsible for the crimes committed during the last Military Dictatorship in Argentina from penal responsibility. Because of this, no one accused in the document presented by the Argentine office of prosecutors in the mentioned cause 761 was convicted. Of the 227 victims which Lieutenant Cavallo was accused of, the CASE N° 109 is: SCHAPIRA, Daniel Marcelo. He suffered the privation of his liberty on April 7, 1977 in the streets of the Federal District. He was taken to the Navy Petty-Officers School of Mechanics (ESMA by its initials in Spanish) where he was treated to inhuman life conditions. He was tortured with blows and electric shocks to force him to give information. He remains disappeared”.

Eight months after his vanished his son was born, called Daniel Schapira. He, at the moment of his disappearance, didn’t know that his wife was pregnant. She, Andrea Yankilevich, was kidnapped together with the baby, on July 1978 (she remains disappeared to this day) but the baby was given back to his grandmother from his mother's side. Today that child is already 23 years old and he militates in H.I.J.O.S. (Sons and Daughters for Identity and Justice Against Forgetting and Silence, an organization of the children of people who were "disappeared" in Argentina).

A torturer, who was known as “The Thunder”, boasted in the ESMA about having obtained in the United States some darts with high doses of venom that were shot with fire weapons. In the prologue of the book “Recuerdos de la Muerte”, its author Miguel Bonasso, tells: “One morning “The Thunder” randomly chose one of the hundreds of guests that were kept there. He forced him to be taken to the basement and decided to conduct an experiment. The subject was Daniel Schapira. Daniel thought he was going to be executed when “The Thunder” ordered him to face the wall. He was very weak and he still hadn’t recovered from the bullet injuries and the goad sessions. “The Thunder” carefully aimed and then shot him with a small gun. Daniel collapsed and slept for more than a day”…

Daniel Marcelo Schapira appears in the report of the CONADEP with the number 4742, statement #5274, as a Law student. But he was also a tennis player. From the years of lead the case of the Almagro goalkeeper, Claudio Tamburrini, is remembered. He was also a Philosophy and Literature student. He was retained in the “Seré Mansion” in Haedo, but he managed to escape and arrive in Sweden where he was a political refugee and is a philosopher today. The athlete Miguel Sánchez is incorrectly remembered as the only disappeared sportsman during the dictatorship.

Because of this, 25 years after the tragic Coup d'état that remembers “the years of lead” and 24 years after his disappearance, the tennis world has never – due to ignorance, error or omission - rendered the homage that Dani Schapira deserved. He played superbly, was an exceptional doubles player and an advocate of “fair play”, in addition to being loyal, a great intellectual, an idealist and a terrific guy.

The renowned Uruguayan writer Mario Benedetti, says that “The people always remember, but one way of helping them (and helping us) is to describe how the past was when it was still the present. To remember is to live in the past, which is always an abode, and there is no forgetfulness that is able to demolish it”.

That’s why from here we pay this deserved and humble tribute to Dani. No forgetfulness nor forgiveness! Never again! And we say: Daniel Marcelo Schapira: PRESENT!!!!!!

Oscar Pinco


Here is the original article in Spanish written by Oscar Pinco: http://www.aplenotenis.com.ar/pinco1.htm

Translation: by yours truly :D (hopefully you can understand something :unsure:)
Edition by: Jenni (aka Naranoc) :bowdown:

Zirconek
12-30-2008, 11:47 PM
Thank you very very much Link Mage and Naranoc :bowdown: :yeah:

A beautiful tribute to Schapira and all other victims of the authoritarian governments. :yeah:

NyGeL
01-28-2009, 07:16 PM
Obama extreme left??? that's the most stupid thing I ever heard! (well, you are republican, so you apply to this).

El Legenda
01-28-2009, 08:37 PM
Roddick- communist

Winston's Human
01-28-2009, 09:20 PM
Roddick is apolitical. When asked about the last election, he said that he did not vote.

Roddick's only political involvement (as least here in Texas) was to promote a proposition for increased funding for cancer research.

Crazy Girl
01-29-2009, 02:42 PM
Roddick is apolitical. When asked about the last election, he said that he did not vote.

Roddick's only political involvement (as least here in Texas) was to promote a proposition for increased funding for cancer research.
Very good thing!!! Go Andy!!!!!:worship::worship::worship:

Svetlana.
02-03-2009, 09:29 PM
Roddick- communist

Roddick- communist = ultra left by the USA measures?

Action Jackson
02-08-2009, 03:23 PM
James Blake is an Obama fan, gives PD and Mirkaland another reason to dislike him.

Tankman
02-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Roddick- communist

:haha:

doesn't communist = trade union/Australian Labor (the only word we ever copied from American English :p)/any left at all?

afaik, both the dems and the reps are both conservative. just taht the dems are less conservative than the reps :p