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2008's Best Challenger

Ozone
12-17-2008, 01:55 AM
The 2008 challenger season has had plenty of exciting and intense tournaments. As the season comes to an end, I would like to remember the best challenger of 2008 and vote on it. YOUR VOTES SHOULD BE BASED ON 3 CRITERIA.
1) THE PLAYERS Loaded field, talented, special players
2) QUALITY OF MATCHES Intense matches, close scores
3) GOOD HEAD-TO-HEADS Good mathups, highly anticipated matches.

Before voting however, you will have to nominate challenger tournaments from the 2008 season. I will take the 10 most common nominations. Thanks, I please nominate challenger tournaments!

10K Futures Qualifier
12-17-2008, 02:18 AM
Dallas Challenger

Ozone
12-17-2008, 02:29 AM
I nominate Lexington Challenger

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 09:16 AM
In terms of cut-off, these are the best ones:


#110 - 12. Sunrise [Igor Kunitsyn]

#136 - 5. Wroclaw [Tomas Zib]
#149 - 14. Napoli [Daniel Gimeno-Traver]
#160 - 43. Buenos Aires [Pere Riba]

#162 - 42. Montevideo [Mariano Puerta]

#164 - 32. Segovia [Stefano Galvani]

#165 - 6. Bergamo [Fernando Vicente]
#171 - 13. Barletta [Mikhail Ledovskikh]

#172 - 4. Heilbronn [Frédéric Niemeyer]
#174 - 44. Cali [Olivier Patience]

Of course Sunrise is a very special case.

Caio_Brasil
12-17-2008, 10:01 AM
As I only attended São Paulo it was the best challenger for me, but it probably shouldn't be in the list.

Labamba
12-17-2008, 01:14 PM
Helsinki :D

kai.
12-17-2008, 11:29 PM
His year i didnt went to a ch :sad: so i dont have the privilege to vote
can someone talk to the USTA to have any challenger in LA :sad:

Ozone
12-18-2008, 12:34 AM
In terms of cut-off, these are the best ones:



Of course Sunrise is a very special case.

From your number 3-8 ive hardly ever heard the winners. No good America challengers you saw?

Ozone
12-18-2008, 12:35 AM
Remember everyone, this is NOT a vote for how well your favorite player did, or I would vote for Yuba City and Kendrick and Spadea's victories.

Zirconek
12-18-2008, 01:03 AM
From your number 3-8 ive hardly ever heard the winners. No good America challengers you saw?

the names are the last direct acceptance into main draw, not the winners :p

Baghdatis#1
12-18-2008, 02:36 AM
As much as I wanted to say Athens, the field was average, with WC Verkerk winning, the venue was amazing, but it wasn't that exciting, and no one really cared after all the Greeks were out(R32)so there was no emotion really. I'd have to say Belgrade was great, followed by Bermuda.

Baghdatis#1
12-18-2008, 02:37 AM
Look out for Rhodes,Greece in 2009. beautiful island, beautiful courts. 125k+H all the surfaces for training.

LeChuck
12-18-2008, 03:32 AM
Prostejov is easily one of the best challenger events around IMO, and the draw this year was outstanding:
http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/vault/draws.asp?TournamentID=558&TournamentYear=2008

Ozone
12-18-2008, 03:17 PM
the names are the last direct acceptance into main draw, not the winners :p

My bad, I missed the cut-off part

Ozone
12-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Nominations will end Saturday, December 20th. Read the 1st post to make proper nominations

Chip_s_m
12-18-2008, 07:50 PM
Champaign was pretty good.

tennis fan474
12-19-2008, 12:45 PM
Helsinki

Yves.
12-19-2008, 03:22 PM
Scheveningen CH

pkubik
12-19-2008, 08:33 PM
Wrocław of course

Ozone
12-19-2008, 08:49 PM
Anyone know the link to see all of the draws of 2008 challengers? I had it a minute ago, but forgot:[

Nathaliia
12-19-2008, 09:54 PM
Wrocław was the best in its history this year. Good players, good matches, dramatic comebacks, and finally a venue where is not that cold like in the previous one.

NyGeL
12-19-2008, 10:17 PM
You sholud add the tournament draw when you pick one.

Prostejov looks better than some ATP like Casablanca.

Ozone
12-19-2008, 10:51 PM
You sholud add the tournament draw when you pick one.

Prostejov looks better than some ATP like Casablanca.

That would be great!!

Zirconek
12-20-2008, 12:20 AM
Anyone know the link to see all of the draws of 2008 challengers? I had it a minute ago, but forgot:[

you can see it at stevegtennis

http://stevegtennis.com/atpres.htm

this link will probably be updated in the next days with the 2009 draw, so if it happens, go to main page and look for 2008 calendar/results.

also you can check the draws here in MTF, the posts #2-4 form each thread have the draws/results of the tournament, great work by CooCooCachoo, with a nice design :yeah:

Ozone
12-20-2008, 12:57 AM
you can see it at stevegtennis

http://stevegtennis.com/atpres.htm

this link will probably be updated in the next days with the 2009 draw, so if it happens, go to main page and look for 2008 calendar/results.

also you can check the draws here in MTF, the posts #2-4 form each thread have the draws/results of the tournament, great work by CooCooCachoo, with a nice design :yeah:

Thanks!:worship: Man, anyone know why Coocoocachoo lost the MTF popularity contest?

Ozone
12-20-2008, 01:03 AM
Wroclaw looks like its a lock for the poll. For heavens sake, the cut-off is 136! And some epic scores in there to.

Ozone
12-20-2008, 01:28 AM
I will compile the top 10 like this:
1) THE PLAYERS(30%): Cut-off
2) Quality of matches(25%): 3-setters+Tie-breakers
3) GOOD HEAD-TO-HEADS(30%): Same country match + # of seed vs. seed matches
4) Your Nominations(15%): 10 most requested tourneys
I will take the top 10 in all of these categorys THEN compile the official top 10.

To make things quicker, I'm ruling out all challengers lower than 50K.(I doubt they would make it anyways)

Ozone
12-20-2008, 01:41 AM
Here are the top 10 lists:

1) THE PLAYERS
1)Sunrise
2)Wroclaw
3)Napoli
4)Buenos Aires
5)Montevideo
6)Segovia
7)Bergamo
8)Barletta
9)Heilbronn
10)Cali

pedroruizbo
12-20-2008, 03:03 AM
Prostejov

D.daTS
12-20-2008, 11:30 AM
Wrocław :rocker2:

and cold Szczecin :spit:

DUN I LOVE
12-20-2008, 11:33 AM
Wrocław

Ozone
12-20-2008, 07:28 PM
New format, same calculations, but only calculating the nominations.

Ozone
12-20-2008, 07:36 PM
VOTING NOW OPEN!!

Poll closes January 4th! Please vote!!

10K Futures Qualifier
12-20-2008, 07:41 PM
Other (Dallas Challenger)

JMG
12-20-2008, 07:44 PM
Other, Heilbronn

Was the most enjoyable, Belgrade comes close.

kai.
12-20-2008, 07:54 PM
Baires ;)

10K Futures Qualifier
12-20-2008, 07:54 PM
I did not care for Helibronn

Baghdatis#1
12-20-2008, 08:10 PM
Other-Belgrade

Labamba
12-20-2008, 09:47 PM
Helsinki

subjective view of course :p but the field was good, atmosphere was nice and some matches were really exciting

CooCooCachoo
12-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Clear US bias in the poll :lol: Don't really understand why Lexington, Calabasas and Champaign even made the poll. The field wasn't all that good, and their websites don't stand out.

Scheveningen, enjoyable as it is, suffered from very bad weather this year.

My vote goes Other (Dallas), simply as a thank you for the awesome coverage there. The event seems a lot of fun too.

10K Futures Qualifier
12-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Clear US bias in the poll :lol: Don't really understand why Lexington, Calabasas and Champaign even made the poll. The field wasn't all that good, and their websites don't stand out.

Scheveningen, enjoyable as it is, suffered from very bad weather this year.

My vote goes Other (Dallas), simply as a thank you for the awesome coverage there. The event seems a lot of fun too.

Me and CooCoo agree, Dallas was the best. Also, there is U.S. bias, some of their web sites did not even have live score :eek:. Also, none of these should be nominated if they did not have live stream.

D.daTS
12-22-2008, 10:28 AM
none of these should be nominated if they did not have live stream.

nope
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Only two voices on Wrocław :o:

Where are U countrymans ? :worship: :smoke:

Only Mavs form Dallas are good not chall.:o

Dirk + Terry + Jo.Howard :rocker2:

JustJames
12-22-2008, 11:31 AM
It has to be Dallas; fantastic coverage through the live scores and the ultra high quality live video/commentary. Plus one of the organisers regularly made it onto 'britishtennis.net' to update us on any potential British interest, i.e really nice people running the event!

Zirconek
12-22-2008, 11:51 AM
East London - South Africa - had a great field with Ljubicic, Koubek, T. Johansson, Gil, de Voest and the best hair in circuit Pavel Snobel, so gets my vote

TBarm7
12-22-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks for all of the nice things said about our Challenger(Dallas). We just finished our pre-qualy wc doubles tourney this weekend and our video streaming coverage has a few things to work out, but it was awesome. 3 hi def cameras, video replay of pts, live scoring. We will have it all this year. Guest commentary will also be something we will add to this years Challenger(coaches, players, teaching pros, etc...) You can view this weekends matches on www.frontrowtennis.com . Try and view the doubles final yesterday. Briaud/Marshall vs. Kenner/Scarella and let me know what you guys think.

btw, Patrick Briaud and Jason Marshall won our wc event beating Neil Kenner and Jeff Scarella in the finals, 6-2, 6-4

10K Futures Qualifier
12-22-2008, 09:24 PM
nope

Yes, how can anyone nominate tournaments that don't even have a live score. Challengers that have live stream even further distance themselves from others.

TankingTheSet
12-22-2008, 11:47 PM
A few facts about "Sunrise, CA"

- It's Sunrise, Florida not California.
- It's an ATP-organized challenger to bridge the gap from Indian Wells to Miami. No atmosphere, poor website, no live scores, nothing just big points for a challenger.
- The weather was poor this year forcing play into the next Monday.

D.daTS
12-23-2008, 11:03 AM
Yes, how can anyone nominate tournaments that don't even have a live score. Challengers that have live stream even further distance themselves from others.

It was on bwin :p Hall "Orbita" is cool. You must have bigger imaginations but when u support Zabaleta u must be :tape:

CooCooCachoo
12-23-2008, 12:36 PM
A few facts about "Sunrise, CA"

- It's Sunrise, Florida not California.
- It's an ATP-organized challenger to bridge the gap from Indian Wells to Miami. No atmosphere, poor website, no live scores, nothing just big points for a challenger.
- The weather was poor this year forcing play into the next Monday.

Based on?

The rest I would have to agree to.

egiorazz
12-24-2008, 03:11 PM
IMO Dallas is the best.

Ozone
12-24-2008, 09:53 PM
Tanking is correct. It is te Sunrise, FL challenger. It has a good website. It is NOT in California. I just put CA because thats what Coocoo had on his challenger forum. My bad.

Ozone
12-25-2008, 08:52 PM
Sorry guys, I didn't realize you all thought this was a vote for the best website. If you want to vote on that, make another forum.

Ozone
12-25-2008, 08:53 PM
Actually, I believe I will make a vote on the best challenger website!

Jader Magri
12-25-2008, 11:23 PM
Other: São Paulo Open...

FERNET
12-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Buenos Aires :wavey: