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AO Wildcard Play-off: December 15-21, 2008

smucav
12-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Tournament Dates: 15 to 21 December 2008
Venue: Melbourne Park, Melbourne, VIC
Entry: Free
Draw: 16 player draw (Men & Women)
Format: Round Robin
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=13869

Main draw: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 12:30 p.m.

2009 Australian Open Playoff-Men's Acceptances-Final
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39785.8780005903

Entry deadline: December 12, 2008
Seeding: December 8, 2008

1 Luczak, Peter 156
2 Sirianni, Joseph 182
3 Smeets, Robert 199
4 Ball, Carsten 204
5 (WC) Ebelthite, Colin 256
6 (WC) Klein, Brydan 258
7 (WC) Groth, Samuel 265
8 (WC) Ebden, Matt 304
9 (WC) Matosevic, Marinko 335
10 (WC) Jones, Greg 413
11 (WC) Millman, John 558
12 McKenzie, Brendan 758 (Optus 18s Australian Singles Champion)
13 (WC) Tomic, Bernard 775
14 (WC) Kelly, Dayne 982
15 (WC) Propoggia, Dane 1058
16 (WC) Verryth, Mark 1668

Alternates
1 Reid, Matt
2 Thomas, Andrew
3 Gregory, Andrew
4 Highest ranked to sign-in each day

Acceptances are based on the following criteria:

1. All athletes ranked ATP or WTA 250 or better (based on 8 December 2008 rankings release.
2. 18s Optus Australian Championships-Singles Winners
3. Australian Pro Circuit Points Race Winners

Remaining spots default to wildcards. Acceptance list will be available from Wednesday 3 December.

Raul
12-03-2008, 05:19 AM
Is Raphael Durek and Robert Smeets play here ?
Maybe Robert Smeets get a wild card for the main draw. But Raphael is..........

ImmzB
12-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Any-1 know when the Qualifying List will come out?

Zirconek
12-03-2008, 10:42 PM
Any-1 know when the Qualifying List will come out?

Qualifying lists of Grand Slams come 3 weeks before tournament starts :wavey:

ImmzB
12-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Qualifying lists of Grand Slams come 3 weeks before tournament starts :wavey:

Thanks!

smucav
12-05-2008, 04:00 PM
Only four players qualified for direct entry this year.

Unless these players move into the ATP top 250 by December 8th, they will need a wild card to compete in the play-off:

Entered Athletes ATP Ranking (as at 1st Dec)
Ebelthite, Colin 256
Klein, Brydan 258
Groth, Samuel 265
Junaid, Rameez 302
Ebden, Matt 304
Lindahl, Nick 328
Matosevic, Marinko 335
Armstrong, Miles 350
Coelho, Andrew 387
Feeney, Adam 394
Jones, Greg 413
Healey, Nathan 501
Millman, John 558
Stasiak, Jurek 670
McKenzie, Brendan 758
Tomic, Bernard 775
Thomas, Andrew 870
Kadir, Sadik 874
Goh, Steven 883
Reid, Matt 889
Kelly, Dayne 982
Hensel, Kaden 990
Lindner, Joel 999
Reid, Todd 1018
McCook, Mark 1025
Propoggia, Dane 1058
Gregory, Andrew 1111
Hoh, Stephen 1246
Hubble, Adam 1364
Easton, Jared 1380
Verryth, Mark 1665
Duckworth, James NR

Labamba
12-12-2008, 10:25 AM
Final Acceptance List
1 Luczak, Peter 156
2 Sirianni, Joseph 182
3 Smeets, Robert 199
4 Ball, Carsten 204
5 Ebelthite, Colin 256
6 Klein, Brydan 258
7 Groth, Samuel 265
8 Ebden, Matt 304
9 Matosevic, Marinko 335
10 Jones, Greg 413
11 Millman, John 558
12 McKenzie, Brendan 758
13 Tomic, Bernard 775
14 Kelly, Dayne 982
15 Propoggia, Dane 1058
16 Verryth, Mark 1668

Alternates
1 Reid, Matt
2 Thomas, Andrew
3 Gregory, Andrew
4 Highest ranked to sign-in each day

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39785.8780005903

Experimentee
12-13-2008, 01:04 AM
Junaid, Feeney, Lindahl weren't selected for the playoff in favour of these junior boys? :rolleyes:

GustavoM_Fan
12-13-2008, 03:03 AM
How Wild Cards will be distributed?

the winner gets one for Main Draw by sure, but the others for AO qualies?

Ferrero Forever
12-13-2008, 03:30 AM
Final Acceptance List
1 Luczak, Peter 156
2 Sirianni, Joseph 182
3 Smeets, Robert 199
4 Ball, Carsten 204
5 Ebelthite, Colin 256
6 Klein, Brydan 258
7 Groth, Samuel 265
8 Ebden, Matt 304
9 Matosevic, Marinko 335
10 Jones, Greg 413
11 Millman, John 558
12 McKenzie, Brendan 758
13 Tomic, Bernard 775
14 Kelly, Dayne 982
15 Propoggia, Dane 1058
16 Verryth, Mark 1668

Alternates
1 Reid, Matt
2 Thomas, Andrew
3 Gregory, Andrew
4 Highest ranked to sign-in each day

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39785.8780005903

Thanks, but that entry list is stupid. I guess merit isn't rewarded by Tennis Australia.

Thanos
12-13-2008, 04:19 AM
tennis australia dogged coelho fricken idiots

jmf07
12-13-2008, 10:56 AM
lol this entry list cannot be serious can it. If it is I am worried. Why the hell didn't they select Coehlo, he is in tremendous form and is still young. Is it because these guys didn't sign up and that is why the fourth spot is the highest ranked player to sign in?

jmf07
12-13-2008, 11:09 AM
lol this entry list cannot be serious can it. If it is I am worried. Why the hell didn't they select Coehlo, he is in tremendous form and is still young. Is it because these guys didn't sign up and that is why the fourth spot is the highest ranked player to sign in?

It appears as thought they are on the entry list though which makes the decision not to select Coehlo and Lindahl astounding. Perhaps someone needs to inform Tennis Australia that things such as that get published on April Fools Day and not in December. I honestly cannot believe that this is the selected field.

Wojtek
12-13-2008, 04:36 PM
No Todd Reid :confused:

save ausdecline
12-13-2008, 11:31 PM
No Todd Reid :confused:

You can't expect him to be on the list cos despite good form, he hasn't committed himself to a full playing scheldule

azza
12-14-2008, 01:41 AM
No Feeney or Coelho wtf

Im not that surprised bout Lindahl as last years little hissy fit wouldnt warrent another return and tbh his form has been pathetic.

Quite surprised at the likes of

14 Kelly, Dayne 982
15 Propoggia, Dane 1058
16 Verryth, Mark 1668

infront of Coelho Feeney Junaid and even Healey if he even entered.

davidrafael
12-14-2008, 03:14 AM
hissy fit or no hissy fit, the guy is only 20 years old, ranked 300 (or thereabouts) in the world and has ATP experience to his name. I think the reasoning is far deeper than we know...(for example, ebden is one year older and has the same ranking, groth one year older and only 50 places higher, ebelthite 4 years older...so im sure theres alot more to it than ranking and age.)

Most likely it sounds like typical TA politics...because i know that both Lindahl and Coelho have quit the AIS program this year (and they are both missing from the list, so go figure...) but im not too sure about feeney...so i cant comment on him...

Experimentee
12-14-2008, 08:04 AM
Perhaps they didn't select Feeney or Junaid based on age, although I think that's stupid because they have both reached the final of this tournament in the past, have more challenger experience and therefore have more chance of winning it than the likes of Millman or Proproggia.

Perhaps they did not select Lindahl because of his bad attitude last year, but still it shouldn't warrant not giving him a chance.

I simply cannot think of one reason why Coelho would not be there. Stupid TA :rolleyes:

aussie_fan
12-14-2008, 08:58 AM
Lindhal goes from MD WC to not even getting into the WC Playoff. Some of those snubs that been mentioned are compltely insane.

Thanos
12-14-2008, 09:12 AM
I simply cannot think of one reason why Coelho would not be there. Stupid TA :rolleyes:

the only reason i came come up with is that he must have banged one of the committee sister or wives haha.

hes only 21 and tennis australia has already gave him the flick.

Labamba
12-14-2008, 10:04 AM
Groups

Luczak
Mckenzie
Jones
Klein

Sirianni
Propoggia
Tomic
Ebelthite

Smeets
Ebden
Millman
Matosevic

Ball
Kelly
Verryth
Groth

Draw: http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8466034143

Monday OOP: http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8137003125

saleebyman
12-15-2008, 03:03 AM
No Feeney or Coelho wtf

Im not that surprised bout Lindahl as last years little hissy fit wouldnt warrent another return and tbh his form has been pathetic.

Quite surprised at the likes of

14 Kelly, Dayne 982
15 Propoggia, Dane 1058
16 Verryth, Mark 1668

infront of Coelho Feeney Junaid and even Healey if he even entered.

never heard of Kelly or Propggia, i probs dont think they should of gone in front of Adam Feeney or andrew Coelho, but i mean they havnt done anything in tennis for austrlia, TA is thinking Austrlia needs new blood hence these Juniors

saleebyman
12-15-2008, 03:09 AM
oi im going to pick the winners of each group (put winners in bold)
Luczak
Mckenzie
Jones
Klein

Sirianni
Propoggia
Tomic
Ebelthite

Smeets
Ebden
Millman
Matosevic

Ball
Kelly
Verryth
Groth
(this group is toughest)

Other ppl choose the winners of each group!

Labamba
12-15-2008, 08:44 AM
Monday results

Peter Luczak d Brendan Mckenzie 6-2 6-3
Brydan Klein d Greg Jones 7-6(6) 6-1
Joe Sirianni d Dane Propoggia 7-5 6-1
Colin Ebelthite d Bernard Tomic 3-6 6-3 7-6(6)
Robert Smeets d Matt Ebden 6-2 6-0
Marinko Matosevic d John Millman 6-4 6-2
Carsten Ball d Dayne Kelly 6-4 6-0
Mark Verryth d Sam Groth 2-6 7-6(4) 6-4

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8466034143

Tuesday OOP: http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8137003125

davidrafael
12-15-2008, 09:32 AM
also, dont know if someone noticed it or not yet, but Miles Armstrong is also missing from the play-off. He was also left out, Ranked about 360, age 22.

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 09:49 AM
also, dont know if someone noticed it or not yet, but Miles Armstrong is also missing from the play-off. He was also left out, Ranked about 360, age 22.

Hmm. Armstrong has made the odd choice to play many Futures on clay this year, has been in horrible shape for as long as I can remember and simply has no business being here, in my opinion.

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 09:51 AM
Perhaps they didn't select Feeney or Junaid based on age, although I think that's stupid because they have both reached the final of this tournament in the past, have more challenger experience and therefore have more chance of winning it than the likes of Millman or Proproggia.

Perhaps they did not select Lindahl because of his bad attitude last year, but still it shouldn't warrant not giving him a chance.

I simply cannot think of one reason why Coelho would not be there. Stupid TA :rolleyes:

Junaid actually didn't have all that bad of a season :shrug: Feeney was hopeless, but he did better than some players that are here in the last Aussie Futures of the year.

I like Nick, but I do recall last year's fuss, and I frankly support TA for not including him. It sends off a good disciplining message, in my opinion.

Coelho :confused:

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 09:52 AM
the only reason i came come up with is that he must have banged one of the committee sister or wives haha.

hes only 21 and tennis australia has already gave him the flick.

Is there any chance he has already been promised a MD WC :shrug: It sounds unlikely, but I just can't imagine why they'd leave him out.

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 09:53 AM
:yeah: Robert
:yeah: Joe

Amazing scoreline for Smeets. And a good win for Verryth there over Groth :eek:

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 10:02 AM
Ebelthite beats Tomic in thriller

Melbourne,15 December 2008
Rob O'Gorman
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39797.7312158565&blobType=landscape
Bernard Tomic went down to Colin Ebelthite on day 1 of the AO Wildcard Play-off.
Ella Ling

VIDEO: Colin Ebelthite post match interview (http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=11501)

Colin Ebelthite has beaten Bernard Tomic in a thrilling three-set match 3-6 6-3 7-6(6) on day one of the Australian Open Wildcard Play-off at Melbourne Park.
The 24-year-old prevailed in a tight third set tie-break after almost three hours on court.
Ebelthite held several match points during the third set before he finally sealed the win 8-6 in the tiebreak after Tomic missed a backhand wide down the line.
“He started really well, I was probably a little bit off then I started to get it together in the second set a bit more and maybe he dropped a little bit and gave me a bit of a chance but he's a really good player I was happy to get the win,” Ebelthite said after the match.
Despite the loss, Tomic said he was pleased to put in a strong performance against a higher-ranked opponent.
“My legs were a little bit slack in the last few games but it was a good match and we both played well,” Tomic said.
Defending champion Jo Sirianni, who will play Ebelthite on Tuesday, started the tournament with a 7-5 6-1 win over Optus 18s Boys' Finalist Dane Propoggia.
Peter Luczak made a successful return from a six-week lay-off through injury with a 6-2 6-3 win over Optus 18s Boys' Champion Brendan Mckenzie.
Knowing little about Mckenzie heading into the match, Luczak said he called up fellow Optus Davis Cup team member Lleyton Hewitt for some advice last night.
“I knew Lleyton practiced with him a few times in Sydney this year so I called him last night and he gave me a bit of information about him so that was nice,” Luczak said.
“I knew he [Mckenzie] was a good player because he won the 18s Nationals and I was never close to doing that at his age so it was a very good effort by him.”
In other results, Brydan Klein beat Greg Jones 7-6(6) 6-1, Robert Smeets eased past Matt Ebden 6-2 6-0 and Marinko Matosevic defeated John Millman 6-4 6-2.

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 10:24 AM
Epic opening day at AO Play-Off

Melbourne,15 December 2008
Tennis Australia
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39797.7423776042&blobType=landscape
Colin Ebelthite.
Getty Images

Talented 24-year-old Adelaide right-hander Colin Ebelthite fought back from a set down to win an epic struggle against Queensland teenager Bernard Tomic on the opening day of the Australian Open Play-off at Melbourne Park.
In a see-sawing match that produced some crowd-pleasing tennis from both players, Ebelthite survived a match point in the tenth game of the third set, after Tomic had earlier come from a break down.
Tomic, 16, survived two match points in the tiebreak before Ebelthite closed it out 8-6, to win the match 3-6 6-3 7-6(6)
“He started really well, I was probably a little bit off then I started to get it together in the second set a bit more and maybe he dropped a little bit and gave me a bit of a chance, Ebelthite said post-match. “But he's a really good player I was happy to get the win.”
Tomic was equally gracious: “My legs were a little bit slack in the last few games but it was a good match and we both played well. I was pleased with how I played and now I've just got to prepare for the next match,” he said. He will play fellow teenager Dane Propoggia from New South Wales tomorrow at 10:00 am.
Jelena Dokic was untroubled to win her opening match, dropping just three games in her win over 16-year-old Queenslander Sophie Letcher.
Her post-match assessment: “I played well and did enough to get the win and [get] used to the conditions. I'm feeling good, obviously I want to play better and better as each match goes on but for the first match I'm happy.”
Dokic will now play Brisbane 16-year-old Monika Wejnert at 10:00 am tomorrow.
Kalgoorlie teenager Brittany Sheed caused the first upset of the tournament with a straight sets win over fellow West Australian and number one seed Jessica Moore. Sheed powered her way to a 6-2 6-3 victory.
The men’s number one seed Peter Luczak had a comfortable opening round win in the round-robin event, defeating recently crowned 18 and under champion Brendan Mckenzie, 6-2 6-3
Carsten Ball enjoyed a 6-4 6-0 win over Sunbury 18-year-old Dayne Kelly.
“I started slow but he was playing well and had me 3-1 down. Then I started to find my rhythm and managed to take it from here,” Ball explained after the win.
Ball’s Optus Australian Davis Cup squad teammate Bryden Klein also enjoyed first up success against another young gun, New South Wales 18-year-old Greg Jones, 7-6 (5) 6-1.
“I started strong and playing well, but lost my concentration for a couple of games. But I managed to regroup and play some good tennis,” Klein later commented.
Round robin matches continue tomorrow and Wednesday with quarterfinals on 19 December, semifinals on 20 December and the final on Sunday 21 December.
Matches start at 10:00 am. Admission is free.
Today’s results
Men
Peter Luczak d Brendan Mckenzie 6-2 6-3
Brydan Klein d Greg Jones 7-6 (5) 6-1
Joe Sirianni d Dane Propoggia 7-5 6-1
Colin Ebelthite d Bernard Tomic 3-6 6-3 7-6 (6)
Robert Smeets d Matt Ebden 6-2 6-0
Marinko Matosevic d John Millman 6-4 6-2
Carsten Ball d Dayne Kelly 6-4 6-0
Sam Groth d Mark Verryth 6-2 6-7 (still in progress)
Women
Brittany Sheed d Jessica Moore 6-2 6-3
Olivia Rogowska d Tyra Calderwood 6-3 6-1
Monica Wejnert v Marija Mirkovic 6-4 6-4
Jelena Dokic v Sophie Letcher 6-3 6-0
Sophie Ferguson v Alison Bai 6-2 6-1
Isabella Holland v Shannon Golds (still in progress)
Mia Vriens v Anna Wishink (still in progress)
Emelyn Starr v Jade Hopper (still in progress)

Experimentee
12-15-2008, 10:10 PM
All these juniors except Verryth and Tomic were thrashed on the first day as expected. They just aren't ready to be getting a chance at a grand slam main draw.

CooCooCachoo
12-15-2008, 10:48 PM
All these juniors except Verryth and Tomic were thrashed on the first day as expected. They just aren't ready to be getting a chance at a grand slam main draw.

I think McKenzie definitely deserved the WC though :shrug:

Haile Selassie
12-16-2008, 12:07 AM
Klein :cool:

Experimentee
12-16-2008, 01:27 AM
I think McKenzie definitely deserved the WC though :shrug:

Yes winner of the Optus 18's automatically gets entry. I was more referring to the others who don't yet have a good ranking and yet to prove themselves in ITFs.

Experimentee
12-16-2008, 07:21 AM
Bernard Tomic d Dane Propoggia 6-7 6-4 3-0 ret
Joseph Sirianni d Colin Ebelthite 7-5 7-6
Peter Luczak d Brydan Klein 6-2 6-4
Brendan Mckenzie d Greg Jones 7-5 7-6(4)
Carsten Ball d Mark Verryth 6-3 6-1
Sam Groth d Dayne Kelly 6-4 6-4
Marinko Matosevic d Robert Smeets 4-6 6-2 6-1
Matt Ebden d John Millman 6-1 7-5

davidrafael
12-16-2008, 09:30 AM
Hmm. Armstrong has made the odd choice to play many Futures on clay this year, has been in horrible shape for as long as I can remember and simply has no business being here, in my opinion.

Yes of course, i respect your opinion, but it is simply that - a matter of opinion. The fact was he reached a career high ranking of 268 in the world only 3 months ago (keep in mind the direct entry cut-off for this play-off is a ranking of 250, so 268 isnt far from that)...yet he has been included in this playoff in previous years when his ranking was 600. He would still obviously be a better choice than half of the juniors with substandard rankings who have been included here. He has alot more experience playing at challenger level and is more match hardened on the mens circuit than the juniors , which equates to him probably having a better chance in a slam.

And i think you'll find its not his choice to play the clay tournaments, he's part of the AIS travelling group, which basically 'send' you wherever they see fit. The AIS latest decisions have been based on 'send australian players to clay court tournaments to develop their games'. A few players haven't agreed to this, hence their shaky relationship with the AIS.

Labamba
12-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Wednesday OOP: http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8137003125

CooCooCachoo
12-16-2008, 10:28 AM
Yes of course, i respect your opinion, but it is simply that - a matter of opinion. The fact was he reached a career high ranking of 268 in the world only 3 months ago (keep in mind the direct entry cut-off for this play-off is a ranking of 250, so 268 isnt far from that)...yet he has been included in this playoff in previous years when his ranking was 600. He would still obviously be a better choice than half of the juniors with substandard rankings who have been included here. He has alot more experience playing at challenger level and is more match hardened on the mens circuit than the juniors , which equates to him probably having a better chance in a slam.

And i think you'll find its not his choice to play the clay tournaments, he's part of the AIS travelling group, which basically 'send' you wherever they see fit. The AIS latest decisions have been based on 'send australian players to clay court tournaments to develop their games'. A few players haven't agreed to this, hence their shaky relationship with the AIS.

I saw Miles a few times on clay this year and was just completely underwhelmed; he easily ranks among the worst Top 300 players I've ever seen. So based on that, I really don't find his absence in this play-off as worrisome. Your reasoning is sound nonetheless, but perhaps TA has given up hope :shrug:

And that second paragraph is really interesting. I didn't know anything about AIS and its policies. I was very surprised to see Armstrong in these Dutch Futures, but if he didn't decide so himself it makes more sense. Still, his game is very ill-suited for clay courts :shrug:

CooCooCachoo
12-16-2008, 10:29 AM
Bernard Tomic d Dane Propoggia 6-7 6-4 3-0 ret
Joseph Sirianni d Colin Ebelthite 7-5 7-6
Peter Luczak d Brydan Klein 6-2 6-4
Brendan Mckenzie d Greg Jones 7-5 7-6(4)
Carsten Ball d Mark Verryth 6-3 6-1
Sam Groth d Dayne Kelly 6-4 6-4
Marinko Matosevic d Robert Smeets 4-6 6-2 6-1
Matt Ebden d John Millman 6-1 7-5

:yeah: Joe

Smeets :eek: :(

Luczak is looking good. He'll most probably get a MD WC even if he doesn't win the play-offs. The same goes for Ball.

CooCooCachoo
12-16-2008, 10:38 AM
Luczak too strong for Klein

Melbourne Park, 16 December 2008
Rob O'Gorman
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39798.6696571528&blobType=portait Peter Luczak competes against Brydan Klein at Melbourne Park.
Ella Ling
Peter Luczak has beaten Optus Australian Davis Cup teammate Brydan Klein in his second round robin match in the Australian Open Wildcard Play-off at Melbourne Park today.

It was Luczak's second win in as many days after his opening day victory over Optus 18s Australian Boys' Singles Champion Brendan Mckenzie.

Klein, who beat AIS Pro Tour Squad Member Greg Jones on Monday, will now need to beat Mckenzie on Wednesday to advance to the quarterfinals.

In Group Yellow, Sam Groth defeated Dayne Kelly 6-4 6-4 while Carsten Ball stormed past Mark Verryth 6-3 6-1.

Groth said he was pleased with his form after suffering a loss on day one at the hands of Mark Verryth.

"I played well, served well, he [Kelly] played a fairly solid match. I feel like I am striking the ball well," Groth said.

"My body feels good I think I am in the best shape of my life. I am looking forward to another big battle tomorrow."

Earlier, Jo Sirianni beat Colin Ebelthite 7-5 7-6(4) while Bernard Tomic won his second round robin match against Dane Propoggia from NSW, who retired in the third set with the scoreline 6-7 6-4 3-0 in Tomic's favour.

CooCooCachoo
12-16-2008, 10:42 AM
Propoggia retires against Tomic

Melbourne,16 December 2008
Rob O'Gorman
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39798.5170155556&blobType=landscape
Dane Propoggia prepares to hit a forehand return during the Wildcard Play-off at Melbourne Park.
Ella Ling

Bernard Tomic won his second round robin match today against Dane Propoggia from NSW, who retired in the third set with the scoreline 6-7 6-4 3-0 in Tomic's favour.
Yesterday, Tomic - the reigning Australian Open junior champion - was defeated in three sets by experienced South Australian Colin Ebelthite.

Tomic said he was relieved to get past Propoggia and register his first win for the tournament.

"Dane played really good, I think he played better than me today and I haven't been feeling well all night after my long match yesterday," he said.
"It was lucky he pulled out because I didn't have any strength left."
"I couldn't break him, he was serving well, he was doing the right things and my movement I couldn't get out on the returns and that's what I needed but I'm just happy I got through and I can play tomorrow and have a good match."

The 16 year old is desperately seeking a wildcard in the Australian Open following a controversial incident at the ITF event in Perth recently, when his father, John, ordered him off court midway through the match.

John Tomic publicly apologised for his behaviour, and has since been a silent witness to his son's fortunes in Melbourne this week.
Bernard's next opponent is Victorian Joe Sirianni, who won the men's wildcard play-off last year but was strugging to win today's second round encounter against Ebelthite.

jmf07
12-16-2008, 11:22 AM
Yeah Luczak and Ball are looking very good and will probably receive wildcards anyway.

Also good wins by Matosevic and Mackenzie, who both seem to have a bit of potential.

save ausdecline
12-16-2008, 06:50 PM
What is with the late inclusion of Andrew Gregory (unranked)

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8466034143

davidrafael
12-16-2008, 09:17 PM
Gregory would be included due to Propoggia pulling out with injury...so he replaces Propoggia for the final group match.
He was listed as second alternate, so im unsure what happened to the top alternate - Matt Reid.
But for your information, Gregory is ranked (1112)

davidrafael
12-16-2008, 09:24 PM
I saw Miles a few times on clay this year and was just completely underwhelmed; he easily ranks among the worst Top 300 players I've ever seen. So based on that, I really don't find his absence in this play-off as worrisome. Your reasoning is sound nonetheless, but perhaps TA has given up hope :shrug:

And that second paragraph is really interesting. I didn't know anything about AIS and its policies. I was very surprised to see Armstrong in these Dutch Futures, but if he didn't decide so himself it makes more sense. Still, his game is very ill-suited for clay courts :shrug:

Yeah, your point is valid, obviously his game isnt suited to clay and he has his best results by far on fast hardcourts - in fact it would have been better for him to maybe even play the latter part of the european season indoors.

Worse top 300 players...?? well i don't know about that...yes, i certainly thought that a ranking of 268 was higher than he would achieve, but his results actually havent been all that bad this year in challengers against decent players...and he's gone from unranked to 268 in the space of 2 years, which is a fair effort...

Don't get me wrong, im not his biggest fan or anything, and i dont think he will set the tennis world on fire!! i just don't think he is THAT bad!

Experimentee
12-16-2008, 10:42 PM
I wouldn't put Armstrong in the category of Coelho, Junaid, Feeney, Lindahl etc, but he should still be in there over Millman, Kelly, Propoggia. They gave Armstrong a qualifying WC to the Aus Open last year and he did quite well, nearly beating Lammer in the first round.

I watched a bit of the last matches yesterday. Millman is rubbish and shouldn't be there, Ebden was much better than him and Ebden isn't even that great.

Matosevic played well. He was screaming "Ajde!" after every single point, even a double fault, and looked like he was really fired up.

My brother also attended and he said Ebelthite v Sirianni was a good match, but Groth and Kelly were disappointing. Luczak and Ball are looking good.

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 08:20 AM
Day 3 Results:

Groth beat Ball, 6-4 5-7 7-6 (3)
Gregory (ALT) beat Kelly, 3-6 6-3 6-1
Smeets beat Millman, 7-6 6-7 5-3 (Ret.? Or 6-3?)
Ebden beat Matosevic 6-7 6-2 6-2
Sirianni beat Tomic 6-3 6-1
Thomas (ALT) beat Ebelthite 5-7 2-1 Ret.
Luczak beat Hoh (ALT) 7-5 6-2

McKenzie vs. Klein 3-6 7-6 (2) 1-1, in progress.

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 08:22 AM
So Propoggia, Verryth and Jones all pulled out.

Unfortunate loss for Ball, but he'll go through nonetheless.

Ferrero Forever
12-17-2008, 08:30 AM
I was only there for an hour today with a friend, but I must say the quality of tennis that I saw wasn't good at all. I watched a bit of Millman VS Smeets, even though it was close they were both making very silly errors. Even walking around the courts, from what little I saw it doesn't look like one of them would stand a chance if they got in the main draw of the Aus Open. Rather disappointing, but hopefully I can pop by again on the weekend sometime.

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 08:31 AM
Groth moves into quarterfinals

Melbourne Park,17 December 2008
Darren Saligari
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39799.6176452546&blobType=landscape
Sam Groth prepares to hit a forehand during his win over Carsten Ball at the Australian Open Play-off at Melbourne Park.
Ella Ling

Big-serving Victorian Sam Groth has powered his way into the Australian Open Play-off quarterfinals with a surprise 6-4 5-7 7-6(3) win over Optus Australian Davis Cup team member Carsten Ball.
Groth told tennis.com.au after the three-set encounter that he felt pretty good and was happy to come away with the win.
“I started well and I played well during the first [set]. [I] had a bit of a lapse in concentration in the second and the start of the third, but managed to get out of it.”
While the wildcard into Australian Open 2009 is a big incentive for the tall Victorian, he says it's not everything. The opportunity to measure himself up against other players who are at a similar stage in their careers as him and to get another match in before the next round of Pro Circuit events is a bonus for Groth.
Standing 194 cm, Groth cuts an imposing figure on the court. He says he has been doing a lot of work on his serve with his coach, which is bad news for his opponents as the AIS Pro Tour Program player regularly sends down serves in excess of 220 km/h.
More bad news for Groth's future opponents is that he's feeling confident and happy with his form.
“If I can keep serving like I am and use my forehand and get into the net and if I keep playing like I am I have a chance.”
In other men's matches today, Andrew Gregory came back from a set down to defeat Dayne Kelly in their final Group Yellow round-robin match. From the Yellow Group, Sam Groth and Carsten Ball will progress to the quarterfinals.
Robert Smeets prevailed in a marathon three set match against John Millman, 7-6(5) 6-7(5) 6-4.
Matt Ebden denied Marinko Matosevic a clean sweep of his round-robin matches, defeating him 6-7 6-2 6-2.
Peter Luczak achieved a clean sweep in the Blue Group with a 7-5 6-2 win over Stephen Hoh who replaced the injured Greg Jones.
Joseph Sirianni overpowered the world's best 16 year old, Bernard Tomic 6-3 6-1. While Tomic has only won one of his round-robin matches, he is still a chance to qualify for the quarterfinals.
If Colin Ebelthite is unable to gain medical clearance by Friday for a rib injury, then Tomic will take his place in the quarters. Earlier today Ebelthite retired during his final round-robin match against Andrew Thomas. Ebelthite won the first set 7-5, but Thomas was up 2-1 in the second when Ebelthite was forced off.

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 08:33 AM
I really hope Ebelthite will be fit enough to play. Seemed like a very sympathetic guy in his interview, and he deserves the spot more than Tomic.

CooCooCachoo
12-17-2008, 08:47 AM
Through to the QF:

Blue Group:

1. Peter Luczak
2. Brendan McKenzie OR Brydan Klein

Green Group:

1. Joseph Sirianni
2. Colin Ebelthite (or Bernard Tomic if Ebelthite is injured)

Magenta Group:

1. Marinko Matosevic
2. Robert Smeets

Yellow Group:

1. Carsten Ball
2. Samuel Groth

davidrafael
12-17-2008, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't put Armstrong in the category of Coelho, Junaid, Feeney, Lindahl etc, but he should still be in there over Millman, Kelly, Propoggia. They gave Armstrong a qualifying WC to the Aus Open last year and he did quite well, nearly beating Lammer in the first round.

I watched a bit of the last matches yesterday. Millman is rubbish and shouldn't be there, Ebden was much better than him and Ebden isn't even that great.

I wasn't trying to compare Armstrong with the other players, im just saying i think he has a fair argument to be included in this playoff based on his year...To be honest, i think feeney and coelho are much more complete players and better athletes than armstrong, and even more so than groth and ebden, and if everyone is suprised that armstrong was top 300, i'm even more suprised that ebden and groth are!! I guess if guccione can make top 100 without ground strokes and appauling movement, then why can't groth:rolleyes:

But....results and ranking do the talking...and according to that, amstrong probably does deserve to be there more than coelho and feeney...and on the basis of this years ranking and results, i'd say Groth would be heading for a main draw wildcard regardless of the outcome of this playoff!! the same with Ball...

save ausdecline
12-17-2008, 10:03 PM
So many people are gettin injured, i wonder if its the surface of the courts which are causing these injuries

Experimentee
12-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I wonder if Greg Jones is really injured or just being a sook because he lost his first two? I'm willing to bet on the latter, from memory he did the same thing at last year's playoff. I heard he was carrying on like a baby in his 2nd match.

I think Verryth is genuinely injured, as he was receiving regular injury breaks in the last match he played.

jmf07
12-17-2008, 11:15 PM
I wonder if Greg Jones is really injured or just being a sook because he lost his first two? I'm willing to bet on the latter, from memory he did the same thing at last year's playoff. I heard he was carrying on like a baby in his 2nd match.

I think Verryth is genuinely injured, as he was receiving regular injury breaks in the last match he played.

Yeah Verryth would definently be injured or very sick as there is no way that he would have missed out on only having to defeat Dayne Kelly to get into the quarter finals.

azza
12-18-2008, 04:16 AM
Go Sirianni one last hoorah

Thanos
12-18-2008, 06:29 AM
So many people are gettin injured, i wonder if its the surface of the courts which are causing these injuries

plexicushion was installed so it would reduce injuries. Players around the world complained that rebound ace would become sticky during the hot summer causing injuries.

Labamba
12-18-2008, 08:09 AM
Day 3 Results:

Groth beat Ball, 6-4 5-7 7-6 (3)
Gregory (ALT) beat Kelly, 3-6 6-3 6-1
Smeets beat Millman, 7-6 6-7 5-3 (Ret.? Or 6-3?)
Ebden beat Matosevic 6-7 6-2 6-2
Sirianni beat Tomic 6-3 6-1
Thomas (ALT) beat Ebelthite 5-7 2-1 Ret.
Luczak beat Hoh (ALT) 7-5 6-2

McKenzie vs. Klein 3-6 7-6 (2) 1-1, in progress.

Mckenzie beat Klein 3-6 7-6(2) 6-4

Labamba
12-18-2008, 08:13 AM
Quarterfinal schedule (first match at 11am Friday)

Court 6

Peter Luczak v Colin Ebelthite (or Tomic)
Olivia Rogowska v Monika Wejnert
Brendan Mckenzie v Joe Sirianni

Court 7

Brittany Sheed v Jelena Dokic
Carsten Ball v Marinko Matosevic
Sam Groth v Robert Smeets

azza
12-18-2008, 09:11 AM
Luczak will defo win
Sirianni will defo win
i think Carsten will be too strong
i think Groth will win

Labamba
12-18-2008, 09:26 AM
Semis will be...

Luczak/Ebelthite v Ball/Matosevic
Groth/Smeets v Mckenzie/Sirianni

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39796.8466034143

CooCooCachoo
12-18-2008, 09:46 AM
Go Joe and Robert :rocker:

CooCooCachoo
12-18-2008, 09:48 AM
I wonder if Greg Jones is really injured or just being a sook because he lost his first two? I'm willing to bet on the latter, from memory he did the same thing at last year's playoff. I heard he was carrying on like a baby in his 2nd match.

I think Verryth is genuinely injured, as he was receiving regular injury breaks in the last match he played.

Great :rolleyes: Jones :rolleyes:

Snowwy
12-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Mckenzie beating Klein surprises me.

Bingerz
12-18-2008, 07:58 PM
Yeh im surprised too...i thought Klein was going to go deep into this tournament. That being said...McKenzie can really play

Pepitorl
12-19-2008, 01:09 AM
Surprise! Colin Ebelthite defeats Peter Luczak 6-4 and 6-2...

jmf07
12-19-2008, 01:32 AM
:eek: Luczak losing like that to an injured Ebelthite and Carsten Ball losing the first set 6-3 to Matosevic. What is going on? Did they get told they only have to progress past the round robin stage to get their wildcards or something.

azza
12-19-2008, 02:31 AM
Peter Clayczek :eek: :(

shouldnt be losing to the likes of Ebelthire :o!

Matchu
12-19-2008, 04:58 AM
:eek: Luczak losing like that to an injured Ebelthite and Carsten Ball losing the first set 6-3 to Matosevic. What is going on? Did they get told they only have to progress past the round robin stage to get their wildcards or something.

Even if that was the case Pete is much too competitive to throw a match like that. He would definetly want to win this tournament to prove hes the number 3 Australian out there. Lucky for Pete he will probably still get one because of recent form at the end of the 2008 season. its impossible to give all quarterfinalists wildcards because TA only has 5 main draws. Carsten ended up losing 6-3 6-7(7) 6-3 to Marinko. I've got a feeling Samuel Groth is going to win this tournament.

Results:
Sam Groth def. Robert Smeets 7-6 6-3
Colin Ebelthite def. Peter Luczak 6-4 6-2
Marinko Matosevic def. Carsten Ball 6-3 6-7(7) 6-3
Brendan Mckenzie leads Joe Sirianni 7-5

azza
12-19-2008, 05:22 AM
Sirianni Def McKenzie 5-7 6-1 6-1

CooCooCachoo
12-19-2008, 06:32 AM
Yeh im surprised too...i thought Klein was going to go deep into this tournament. That being said...McKenzie can really play

And Klein really hasn't been in any shape, really.

McKenzie to me seems quite a promising player, judging from his results in the closing of this season.

CooCooCachoo
12-19-2008, 06:33 AM
Surprise! Colin Ebelthite defeats Peter Luczak 6-4 and 6-2...

Impressive scoreline for Ebelthite, and coming off that injury :eek:

It's no biggy for Luczak. He'll get that MD WC anyway.

CooCooCachoo
12-19-2008, 06:36 AM
Even if that was the case Pete is much too competitive to throw a match like that. He would definetly want to win this tournament to prove hes the number 3 Australian out there. Lucky for Pete he will probably still get one because of recent form at the end of the 2008 season. its impossible to give all quarterfinalists wildcards because TA only has 5 main draws. Carsten ended up losing 6-3 6-7(7) 6-3 to Marinko. I've got a feeling Samuel Groth is going to win this tournament.

Results:
Sam Groth def. Robert Smeets 7-6 6-3
Colin Ebelthite def. Peter Luczak 6-4 6-2
Marinko Matosevic def. Carsten Ball 6-3 6-7(7) 6-3
Brendan Mckenzie leads Joe Sirianni 7-5

I think Groth will need to win the event in order to get the WC. My personal guess is that Luczak, Ball and Sirianni will get one regardless. All made it past the round robin stage to show for something, Luczak and Ball had a good 2008 and Sirianni was too good in Australia early last year. Groth hasn't been that impressive though.

Am kind of sad for Robert :( I think this means he'll be in qualies. I somehow feel it'd be the fairest thing if Matosevic gets a MD WC even if he doesn't win this tourney. He's been in very good shape and though he isn't really any younger than Smeets, he's not had MD WCs for Grand Slams before. I reckon Smeets' performance at RG will definitely not work in his favour with TA.

Thanos
12-19-2008, 06:48 AM
I think Groth will need to win the event in order to get the WC. My personal guess is that Luczak, Ball and Sirianni will get one regardless. All made it past the round robin stage to show for something, Luczak and Ball had a good 2008 and Sirianni was too good in Australia early last year. Groth hasn't been that impressive though.

Am kind of sad for Robert :( I think this means he'll be in qualies. I somehow feel it'd be the fairest thing if Matosevic gets a MD WC even if he doesn't win this tourney. He's been in very good shape and though he isn't really any younger than Smeets, he's not had MD WCs for Grand Slams before. I reckon Smeets' performance at RG will definitely not work in his favour with TA.

agreed. tennis australia is know to screw you for no reason at all.
then they wonder why australian doesn't have more players in the top 100.

Labamba
12-19-2008, 08:17 AM
day of upsets here :eek:

Pete :(

Labamba
12-19-2008, 08:17 AM
Semifinal schedule (first match at 11am tomorrow)

Court 7
Jelena Dokic v Emelyn Starr
Joe Sirianni v Sam Groth

Court 6
Isabella Holland v Monika Wejnert
Marinko Matosevic v Colin Ebelthite

CooCooCachoo
12-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Wejnert and Dokic are also sure bets for a WC, even if they do not win the play-offs.

save ausdecline
12-20-2008, 02:46 AM
Final
Colin Ebelthite vs Sam Groth

davidrafael
12-20-2008, 03:12 AM
I wonder if Greg Jones is really injured or just being a sook because he lost his first two? I'm willing to bet on the latter, from memory he did the same thing at last year's playoff. I heard he was carrying on like a baby in his 2nd match.

I think Verryth is genuinely injured, as he was receiving regular injury breaks in the last match he played.

Greg Jones has had alot of foot problems recently, to the point where he was on crutches...so yes im pretty sure it is genuine.

I think Groth will need to win the event in order to get the WC. My personal guess is that Luczak, Ball and Sirianni will get one regardless. All made it past the round robin stage to show for something, Luczak and Ball had a good 2008 and Sirianni was too good in Australia early last year. Groth hasn't been that impressive though.

Am kind of sad for Robert :( I think this means he'll be in qualies. I somehow feel it'd be the fairest thing if Matosevic gets a MD WC even if he doesn't win this tourney. He's been in very good shape and though he isn't really any younger than Smeets, he's not had MD WCs for Grand Slams before. I reckon Smeets' performance at RG will definitely not work in his favour with TA.


Ball is a garuntee.

I'm pretty sure on his year, including an ATP qualy and first round win, and wins over top 100 players, plus now that he has made the final of wildcard playoff (even though i still thought this before the WC playoff) that Groth WILL recieve a MD WC.

Expect juniors to be favoured over Luczak and Sirianni. Luczak could still possibly get one, but Sirianni is highly doubtful.

aussie_fan
12-20-2008, 08:06 AM
Expect juniors to be favoured over Luczak and Sirianni. Luczak could still possibly get one, but Sirianni is highly doubtful.

Luczak will defiantely get a WC, he could very well be top 100 if it wasn't for his injury during the mdidle of the season.. Impressive end of season results and defending 2nd round points also confirm that.

CooCooCachoo
12-20-2008, 10:34 AM
SEMI FINALS

Samuel Groth beat Joseph Sirianni | 6-4 7-6 (5)
Colin Ebelthite beat Marinko Matosevic | 6-4 6-4

CooCooCachoo
12-20-2008, 10:35 AM
Joe :(

CooCooCachoo
12-20-2008, 10:37 AM
Ball is a garuntee.

I'm pretty sure on his year, including an ATP qualy and first round win, and wins over top 100 players, plus now that he has made the final of wildcard playoff (even though i still thought this before the WC playoff) that Groth WILL recieve a MD WC.

Expect juniors to be favoured over Luczak and Sirianni. Luczak could still possibly get one, but Sirianni is highly doubtful.

I really think Joe deserves one. It might be his last year on Tour, and I would understand some of the reasoning saying he'd be too old, but the juniors simply aren't at his level.

Groth might indeed clinch one now that he's this far. But I think his season has been very inconsistent.

What about Ebelthite? Do you think he needs to win tomorrow, or will he get one anyway?

Experimentee
12-20-2008, 12:04 PM
I went to Melbourne Park and watched the two semifinals and also the semis of the Money Tournament.

Groth was very impressive. He served and volleyed very well and his groundstrokes were solid. I believe in one game he served 4 aces in a row. Just had too much power for Joe, who tried every trick in the book but was unsuccessful.

Ebelthite was also playing very well, he has a similar game to Matosevic, but today just did everything better. Backhand was impressive, it was hit with good pace and stayed very low to the ground. Marinko had a problem with some umpiring decisions and made it known to the umpire that he was not happy with him. There was some great entertainment value in some of the exchanges.

MM to the umpire: "The two times I was broken in this match was because of bad umpiring decisions. So actually, I haven't been broken in this match at all. It's 6-4 3-2 to you. You are the one who has broken me.".

Later on, MM developed a paranoia about the umpire looking at him.

"Why are you looking at me? You have already cost me the match. Stop looking at me"

Umpire: "I have to look at you".

MM: "Stop antagonising me!"

Another time when MM got up from his seat to change ends: "Why are you looking at me? I'm allowed to go to the change of ends. Stop looking at me!"


Quite bizarre considering the umpire's job is to watch the match including the players. Needless to say MM did not shake the umpire's hand at the end of the match. MM then proceeded to flog about 10 drinks from the tournament cooler. I must admit though it was very entertaining to see him carry on like that.

I think Groth will take tomorrow's final if he plays like today.


Coelho v Tomic was an ok match, Coelho pulled off the best shots in the match but Tomic was more consistent. Coelho would often make silly errors and hit into the net a lot, and played especially badly at the end of each set when it counted. Tomic is very consistent although not very powerful, he may improve this in the future.

Junaid played terrible against Thomas and was beaten in straight sets. I don't remember ever seeing him play as bad before. Anyway he won the AMT last week, so i suppose he may have been tired.

Experimentee
12-20-2008, 12:08 PM
I really think Joe deserves one. It might be his last year on Tour, and I would understand some of the reasoning saying he'd be too old, but the juniors simply aren't at his level.

Groth might indeed clinch one now that he's this far. But I think his season has been very inconsistent.

What about Ebelthite? Do you think he needs to win tomorrow, or will he get one anyway?

I agree that a WC for Sirianni is doubtful. They don't like to give WCs to older players, unless they are former top 50 players or something like that. I think Joe deserves one over the juniors though. He isn't in the form of last year but can still beat them handily.

Ebelthite is an outside chance, I believe he would have to win the playoff to be given a MD WC.

I believe Groth had a great chance of receiving one regardless.

Labamba
12-20-2008, 12:36 PM
good luck to Sam tomorrow

best of 5 final?

CooCooCachoo
12-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Thanks for that Experimentee :yeah: Any news on why Coelho was not in the play-offs, but was in the money tournament nonetheless? And what is this money tourney in the first place?

Matosevic seems like an amusing guy :lol:

Anyways, Ebelthite came off really sympathetic in his interviews. I wish him the best of luck tomorrow :yeah:

save ausdecline
12-20-2008, 09:51 PM
Matosevic seems like a funny guy

davidrafael
12-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Luczak will defiantely get a WC, he could very well be top 100 if it wasn't for his injury during the mdidle of the season.. Impressive end of season results and defending 2nd round points also confirm that.

i agree that he should get one, but i wouldn't say definately he will. I'm fairly close within the tennis circles in australia, and rumor has it that he certainly didn't win any cases for his argument by losing to ebelthite!! (however, who can even begin to guess what decisions TA are going to make and what they are going to base it on!!) I think you'll find he will most likely get one, but it won't be a preference over someone like Ball. He will most likely pick up one of the last ones.

davidrafael
12-21-2008, 02:26 AM
I agree that a WC for Sirianni is doubtful. They don't like to give WCs to older players, unless they are former top 50 players or something like that. I think Joe deserves one over the juniors though. He isn't in the form of last year but can still beat them handily.

Ebelthite is an outside chance, I believe he would have to win the playoff to be given a MD WC.

I believe Groth had a great chance of receiving one regardless.

I second everything you say there. i hear you!

davidrafael
12-21-2008, 02:33 AM
Groth was very impressive. He served and volleyed very well and his groundstrokes were solid. I believe in one game he served 4 aces in a row. Just had too much power for Joe, who tried every trick in the book but was unsuccessful

Well, you know Groth is 'in form' when he can actually hit solid groundstrokes!:rolleyes:

and even better, they must be going in the court!!:devil:

aussie_fan
12-21-2008, 03:54 AM
i agree that he should get one, but i wouldn't say definately he will. I'm fairly close within the tennis circles in australia, and rumor has it that he certainly didn't win any cases for his argument by losing to ebelthite!! (however, who can even begin to guess what decisions TA are going to make and what they are going to base it on!!) I think you'll find he will most likely get one, but it won't be a preference over someone like Ball. He will most likely pick up one of the last ones.

Luzcak would easily be my first choice for a MDWC given past results and everything else I have mentioned. Was Top 100 last year, fell out of last year only due to injury and he showed later in the year (though it was on clay) that the tennis is still there.

save ausdecline
12-21-2008, 05:01 AM
Ebelthite wins in three sets

save ausdecline
12-21-2008, 05:03 AM
There are some news articles where Ebelthite has expressed that he has is in contention to become Aus no.1 player. I think he has potetnial to crack top 100 by end of this year

save ausdecline
12-21-2008, 05:06 AM
Ebelthite
1-6 7-6 6-4

azza
12-21-2008, 05:11 AM
There are some news articles where Ebelthite has expressed that he has is in contention to become Aus no.1 player. I think he has potetnial to crack top 100 by end of this year

Heres an article that was published in May this year

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/News.aspx?id=4&pageId=11499&HandlerId=2&archive=false&newsid=4200

He said he wants to crack top 100 and top 50.

dont think it will ever happen but he can be a well established top 250 player but all the best. Hope he does well

azza
12-21-2008, 05:15 AM
Groth really should of won this :o

davidrafael
12-21-2008, 05:19 AM
Actually, the final is best of 5 sets, so the final scoreline was ebelthite winning in 4 sets;

1-6 7-6 6-4 6-4

Very good result. I've known colin since he was 13 or 14 and i couldnt be happier for him and seeing his hard work pay off...especially as he wasnt given much support or assistance as a junior and had to 'do it on his own'

save ausdecline
12-21-2008, 07:12 AM
highlights of the match are on http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=11501

Labamba
12-21-2008, 09:23 AM
well done Ebelthite :hatoff:

Experimentee
12-21-2008, 12:04 PM
Congratulations to Colin, he deserved the win today. Groth started extremely well, he was playing his best like he did yesterday and he basically hit Colin off the court. However midway through the 2nd set Groth went off the boil, his 1st serve % went way down and he was losing every groundstroke rally. The only thing that kept him in it was hitting big serves when break point down. Colin had a lot of break points and could have won it easier. After the 1st set Colin was just solid all the way and didn't make many errors.

Good luck to him although I doubt he has the weapons to really challenge many players in the main draw.

About Luczak getting a WC, I believe he will get one regardless of his performance this week. He's never really done well in the playoff before but always gets a WC based on performance during the year. Also he is the highest ranked so it would be hard to snub him.

Caio_Brasil
12-21-2008, 12:04 PM
Surprising winner here :yeah:

Caio_Brasil
12-21-2008, 12:13 PM
Groth's serve motion reminds me a lot of Saretta's :lol:

Experimentee
12-21-2008, 12:13 PM
Thanks for that Experimentee :yeah: Any news on why Coelho was not in the play-offs, but was in the money tournament nonetheless? And what is this money tourney in the first place?

Matosevic seems like an amusing guy :lol:

Anyways, Ebelthite came off really sympathetic in his interviews. I wish him the best of luck tomorrow :yeah:

I still don't know why Coelho, Junaid and Feeney were in the AMTs but not in the playoff. I guess they entered but weren't selected for some reason. If I saw any of them around I would have asked but I didn't.

I think the purpose of money tournaments is to just give players match play, I am not quite sure though. I just know there are no ranking points and there is a small amount of prize money (i think winner gets about $2000, RU $900).

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=13866

CooCooCachoo
12-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Congrats to Colin :yeah:

CooCooCachoo
12-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Ebelthite beats Groth to win wildcard

Melbourne Park, 21 December 2008
Tennis Australia
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39803.7097859144&blobType=portait Colin Ebelthite pumps his fist after defeating Sam Groth in the Australian Open Wildcard Play-off men's final.
Ella Ling
South Australia’s Colin Ebelthite has capped off his best-ever year with a win in the AO Play-off, gaining a wildcard into the maindraw of Australian Open 2009.
Ebelthite defeated AIS Pro tour teammate, big-serving Sam Groth 1-6 7-6(1) 6-4 6-4 in the final, a match which lasted for more than two and a half hours at Melbourne Park.
Australian Open 2009 will be Ebelthite’s debut Grand Slam appearance.
“It hasn't really sunk in yet but it's starting to and feeling good,” Ebelthite said after the match.
“The first set I probably started off a little bit slow but Sam played a really good first set. Second set he was on top early, I managed to hang in there and then had a couple of chances, which I couldn't quite take in trying to break him. But I played a really good tiebreaker and then took a couple of chances in the third and fourth sets so really happy.
“When you're playing qualifying or the play-off you always know there is an opportunity there [to play in a Grand Slam] but for me being ranked 250th it's still not quite there yet so I'm going to really enjoy it,” Ebelthite continued.
Ebelthite is looking forward to returning to South Australia for Christmas and a couple of days of well-earned rest, before getting back in training with AIS coach Paul Baccanello.
Earlier in the day Jelena Dokic held off a determined challenge from 16-year-old Monika Wejnert from Queensland, winning the AO Play-off final 6-7(3) 7-5 6-3.
VIDEO: Ebelthite v Groth highlights

VIDEO: Dokic v Wejnert highlights (http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=11501)
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CooCooCachoo
12-21-2008, 04:27 PM
Love how Groth's highlights in the highlights video are pretty much all aces :lol:

davidrafael
12-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Coelho’s Open hopes dashed


By Marc McGowan


18th December 2008 02:06:35 AM

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Andrew Coelho is disappointed Tennis Australia officials did not award him a discretionary spot in this week’s Australian Open wildcard playoff. 25709
TENNIS Australia officials have left Endeavour Hills tennis player Andrew Coelho “stunned” after overlooking him for a spot in this week’s Australian Open wildcard play-off.

The 21-year-old has competed in the tournament for the past three years and reached the final as a teenager in 2005.

But Coelho’s decision to quit his Australian Institute of Sport (AIS) scholarship two months ago appears to have cost him a place in the event.

AIS head coach Brent Larkham said the selectors had followed a youth policy.

“We had an exciting selection of younger players to choose from this year who were very impressive in junior nationals,” he said.

“Unfortunately, with Andrew’s age and current ranking, he just missed out on a wildcard into the play-off.”

Players inside the world’s top 250 gained automatic inclusion in the wildcard play-off. Tennis Australia officials awarded other spots to top juniors, strong performers at the Optus 18s Australian Championships and players just outside the ranking cut-off.

Coelho, who is ranked 331, required discretionary entry into the competition, but 23-year-old Marinko Matosevic (ranked 293), from Dandenong, and 21-year-old Matthew Ebden (332) look to have beaten him to a place.

Coelho’s career-high ranking of 281, which he reached last month, is better than both Matosevic and Ebden have achieved.

“A few of the guys who are older than me missed out as well, but it came as a bit of a shock to me because my results lately have been really good,” he said.

“A couple of the guys they put in there … maybe there should have been some guys ahead of them.”

Twenty-year-old former Australian Open junior finalist Nick Lindahl (329), 22-year-old Miles Armstrong (350) and 23-year-old Adam Feeney (365) also missed out.

Coelho’s coach, Andrew Florent, was more circumspect about the news.

“It obviously would have been nice to have been selected, but over the year he’s only really done well in Australian tournaments,” Florent said.

“At the end of the day there are two ways you can look at it. You can sit back and sulk or be disappointed and put your head down and work hard and prove them wrong.

“A wildcard is a gift from Tennis Australia and you get a lot more satisfaction when you do it on your own and that’s what he’s going to do.”

Florent, who reached a world ranking of 13 in doubles in 2001, will not travel with Coelho next year due to his coaching commitments with the 12-and-under boys’ national academy and Wesley College.

“Andrew’s in a really good place mentally. He’s 21 now and is able to make his own decisions and (now he’s left the AIS) he can grow up and make his own decisions,” Florent said.

“He seems a lot happier and that has shown in his recent results. We have a really close relationship and I’m a bit more of a mentor than anything else.”

Coelho will play an Australian Money Tournament at Melbourne Park this week before targeting next month’s Australian Open qualifying.

“There’s only really tournaments in Brisbane and Sydney (before the Australian Open) and those two are really strong,” he said.

”I might stay home and train for the Open and get ready for the Challengers and Futures tournaments after that.

“This has definitely given me a lot more motivation to try and prove them wrong and work even harder.”

Experimentee
12-23-2008, 08:58 PM
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AIS head coach Brent Larkham said the selectors had followed a youth policy.

“We had an exciting selection of younger players to choose from this year who were very impressive in junior nationals,” he said.

“Unfortunately, with Andrew’s age and current ranking, he just missed out on a wildcard into the play-off.”


Bullshit, there were players older and lower ranked than Coelho who were selected :rolleyes:

However it is true that Coelho has not done well overseas and in Australian Open qualifying before. Hopefully he can improve that and prove them wrong.

CooCooCachoo
12-23-2008, 09:29 PM
Thanks for that article davidrafael.

It looks like Coelho is only getting more motivatino from being overlooked :yeah: But it does sound like quitting the AIS jeopardized his position with TA.

Tenys4ever
12-31-2008, 07:39 PM
Gregory would be included due to Propoggia pulling out with injury...so he replaces Propoggia for the final group match.
He was listed as second alternate, so im unsure what happened to the top alternate - Matt Reid.
But for your information, Gregory is ranked (1112)

Matt Reid should have been in the AO Playof with his ranking which was higher than Propoggia, Verryth and Kelly. But apparnetly because he pulled out of the 18s Junior Nationals he was not allowed to play AO Playoff. He was pissed because he didn't know the ruling and he wasn't told until after they had taken him out of the draw. Based on this criteria you don't have to play any futures all year as long as you turn up for the 18s Junior Nationals - that will make you eligible for the playoff - sounds stupid to me.

Tenys4ever
12-31-2008, 07:40 PM
I think McKenzie definitely deserved the WC though :shrug:

Agreed. He has been playing so well.

Tenys4ever
12-31-2008, 07:42 PM
I saw Miles a few times on clay this year and was just completely underwhelmed; he easily ranks among the worst Top 300 players I've ever seen. So based on that, I really don't find his absence in this play-off as worrisome. Your reasoning is sound nonetheless, but perhaps TA has given up hope :shrug:

And that second paragraph is really interesting. I didn't know anything about AIS and its policies. I was very surprised to see Armstrong in these Dutch Futures, but if he didn't decide so himself it makes more sense. Still, his game is very ill-suited for clay courts :shrug:

Yeah. From the reports I got when he lost in Perth - he was playing really poorly.