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Labamba
10-27-2009, 09:12 AM
What's the format? How should it be run? I couldn't figure it out by looking at the old threads.

boys vs girls
'Davis Cup' format (singles, doubles, singles)
the number of matches per round depends on the amount of players (usually the number of girls)
matches from Basel and Valencia used
team with the most wins on Sunday is the champion

TT SCHEDULE

*Basel and Valencia*

Monday & Tuesday ~ Opening Singles Matches (16 matches)
Wednesday & Thursday ~ Doubles Matches (8 matches)
Friday, Saturday & Sunday ~ Closing Singles Matches (16 matches)

-Evita-
10-27-2009, 09:54 AM
Thanks Ville. I think it would be better if the manager had played the event before :lol: But if nobody else volunteers then I can do it. It seems such a nice tradition that shouldn't be forgotten :yeah:

Oh and one more thing. Does the manager decide who will be captains? :D If so then I propose Jess and Adam.

Labamba
10-27-2009, 10:20 AM
Oh and one more thing. Does the manager decide who will be captains? :D If so then I propose Jess and Adam.

Adam told me, that Jess and Murilo have agreed to be the captains again. :p

savesthedizzle
10-27-2009, 12:32 PM
Yes, we have :)

I wasn't sure what was happening with this :unsure: Hopefully we can find a manager soon so we can get the teams together. :sad:

-Evita-
10-27-2009, 09:33 PM
We don't have much time at all if the tournament starts next Monday :unsure: How long are you waiting for managers?

savesthedizzle
10-27-2009, 09:33 PM
We don't have much time at all if the tournament starts next Monday :unsure: How long are you waiting for managers?

I don't know :unsure: :sad: I mean we'll wait as long as it takes I guess since there are no other options. :shrug:

Blarghman
10-28-2009, 04:59 AM
If someone's still needed to manage Champaign for the threads started later this week, I can do it :)

Labamba
10-28-2009, 07:57 AM
We don't have much time at all if the tournament starts next Monday :unsure: How long are you waiting for managers?

Could you do it? :awww: I know you're running Basel already, but there's nobody else right now. If yes, let's get the thread started asap...

If someone's still needed to manage Champaign for the threads started later this week, I can do it :)

great :D

Labamba
10-28-2009, 08:39 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

16/11/2009 Bratislava CH IH 32/16/16/8 Zirconek
16/11/2009 Champaign CH IH 32/16/16/8 Blarghman
16/11/2009 Yokohama CH H 32/16/16/8 Marita
16/11/2009 Lima CH CL 32/16/16/8 juakos17


Note: London WTF qualifiers can't play these.

-Evita-
10-28-2009, 08:51 AM
Could you do it? :awww: I know you're running Basel already, but there's nobody else right now. If yes, let's get the thread started asap...

OK :yeah:

juakos17
10-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I can do Lima :wavey:

Forever-Delayed
10-28-2009, 10:02 PM
I am probably going to be need someone to take over the running of the TT Valencia thread next week as next week I will be on work experience and having to travel two hours a day to do so which means I won't have ready access to a computer from about 7am to 8pm.

If there is no-one available to take over the thread then either I could try and do the differences and stuff in a lunch break (although whether that will be possible I don't know) or people will just have to suffer without differences and just have an update when I get back in the evenings, which isn't ideal for anyone.

I can run the qualifying event over the weekend as well as doing the entry list and draw stuff this week, while next weekend should be fine as well, but it is just the Monday-Thursday stuff that will be very difficult to run.

diego36arg
10-28-2009, 10:05 PM
I am probably going to be need someone to take over the running of the TT Valencia thread next week as next week I will be on work experience and having to travel two hours a day to do so which means I won't have ready access to a computer from about 7am to 8pm.

If there is no-one available to take over the thread then either I could try and do the differences and stuff in a lunch break (although whether that will be possible I don't know) or people will just have to suffer without differences and just have an update when I get back in the evenings, which isn't ideal for anyone.

I can run the qualifying event over the weekend as well as doing the entry list and draw stuff this week, while next weekend should be fine as well, but it is just the Monday-Thursday stuff that will be very difficult to run.

Monday to Thursday can help you with updates and differences FD. If it's counting on me. ;)

Labamba
10-29-2009, 08:27 AM
I can do Lima :wavey:

:yeah:

Monday to Thursday can help you with updates and differences FD. If it's counting on me. ;)

I think this sounds like a good idea. :) F-D will do the other days normally.

diego36arg
10-29-2009, 02:00 PM
:yeah:



I think this sounds like a good idea. :) F-D will do the other days normally.

In these days the internet recovery in my house, so I can start contributing again. ;)

Forever-Delayed
10-29-2009, 09:27 PM
Monday to Thursday can help you with updates and differences FD. If it's counting on me. ;)

Thanks :worship:

What I'll probably do is send to you everything that I have managed to do in terms of differences before I have to leave and then let you finish the rest off, as well as getting everyone to send to you as well as to me.

Ozone
10-30-2009, 11:59 AM
Why the hell is Knoxville not a week 45 tournament!? It was originally scheduled as a week 45 challenger?? There are so many USA challengers right now but only 2 are scheduled and another one got changed?? Why is it changed? There are too many South American challengers and no North American ones. Not very fair scheduling.

Labamba
10-30-2009, 12:09 PM
Why the hell is Knoxville not a week 45 tournament!? It was originally scheduled as a week 45 challenger?? There are so many USA challengers right now but only 2 are scheduled and another one got changed?? Why is it changed? There are too many South American challengers and no North American ones. Not very fair scheduling.

people don't want to manage those tournaments, it's always easier to find one for the South American or European tourneys

FiBeR
10-30-2009, 02:36 PM
Why the hell is Knoxville not a week 45 tournament!? It was originally scheduled as a week 45 challenger?? There are so many USA challengers right now but only 2 are scheduled and another one got changed?? Why is it changed? There are too many South American challengers and no North American ones. Not very fair scheduling.

people don't want to manage those tournaments, it's always easier to find one for the South American or European tourneys

2 years ago it was me suggesting more south american tournaments..

i guess it depends on the managers who volunteer..

im pretty sure Ville would give you a challenger if you request to manage a tournament not scheduled that you want to run :hug: that's not on any of the books of rules around, but u know.. if it improves the game, it is gonna be at least considered :D

im happy with how things are developing in TT on a general basis.. i love this game so much, and yours is a valid point Ozone :) but if you want to have it your way, you should go and volunteer yourself :) make that change :lol: like M.J. says

Ozone
10-30-2009, 04:00 PM
It just bothers me that it was originally scheduled- which means I planned to play it- and now it isnt there.

And Ray, you need to coach me more. I need to get into the top 100

FiBeR
10-30-2009, 04:28 PM
:lol: ;) well.. :rocker2: you ll crack it before 2010, mark my words :p AO2010 by latest

btw ville, including PETROBRAS cup exhibition in the calendar could be a nice idea for the off season, if it is ok with the board

i think it will be a good thing to include this every year, like a TMC for Challenger players doing the petrobras.. im almost there with the ranking :p but then..this year i have my hands full :help:

would also be nice to include the Yemok & Biliana Cup in the calendar too.. as official exhibition cups :shrug: but thats an idea that could be discussed during the off season too :)

Marita
10-30-2009, 06:36 PM
I can do Yokohama
:wavey:

Labamba
10-31-2009, 11:45 AM
I can do Yokohama
:wavey:

thank you :worship:

Yves.
10-31-2009, 01:13 PM
When am I allowed to play again?

Zirconek
10-31-2009, 01:43 PM
When am I allowed to play again?

check post #4 of this thread. :rolleyes:

Yves.
10-31-2009, 03:16 PM
check post #4 of this thread. :rolleyes:

Thanks Mr. Nice Guy.

FiBeR
11-01-2009, 12:58 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

16/11/2009 Bratislava CH IH 32/16/16/8 Zirconek
16/11/2009 Champaign CH IH 32/16/16/8 Blarghman
16/11/2009 Yokohama CH H 32/16/16/8 Marita
16/11/2009 Lima CH CL 32/16/16/8 juakos17


Note: London WTF qualifiers can't play these.

if im to play doubles, can i play singles in any of these tournaments?

Labamba
11-01-2009, 11:17 AM
if im to play doubles, can i play singles in any of these tournaments?

no

Ozone
11-03-2009, 01:04 AM
Todd Paul and Cory Parr both made it to Monday, ANDDDD qualified for the main draw in Charlottesville. SO now I am going to whine and bitch about no having the tourney somemore:yeah: :bigcry:

Labamba
11-06-2009, 02:03 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

22/11/2009 WTF London IH 8/-/8/- Forever-Delayed

23/11/2009 Helsinki CH IS 32/16/16/8 orangehat
23/11/2009 Puebla CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
23/11/2009 Toyota CH IS 32/16/16/8 ?


I guess orangehat will be back in time for Helsinki, so two managers needed for Puebla and Toyota :wavey:

Ozone
11-07-2009, 01:16 AM
Hello:

I would like to propose something that is really irritating me in TT.

Obviously, we are nearing the end of the season. So there is only Paris Masters and WTF left on the Tour-level schedule. Then, there are some challengers after that and during WTF.

The thing that bothers me is that now, ALL TTers can play challengers from WTF forward. I know it isn't too many tournaments, but I dont think it is right at all for top 30 players to just come busting into challengers. The benefit tour-level TTers have is they get direct entries to tour-level tourneys all year long. Us challenger-level players have to qualify for the big tourneys or work our ranking up by earning the little challenger points. It is not right for the top 30 to now just play challengers, even if there is nothing else to play. Either EVERYONE should be allowed to play challengers throughout the whole year, or the top 30 should be excluded from challengers all year.- I think that should be the bottom line.

Thanks:wavey:

maru_angi
11-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Hello:

I would like to propose something that is really irritating me in TT.

Obviously, we are nearing the end of the season. So there is only Paris Masters and WTF left on the Tour-level schedule. Then, there are some challengers after that and during WTF.

The thing that bothers me is that now, ALL TTers can play challengers from WTF forward. I know it isn't too many tournaments, but I dont think it is right at all for top 30 players to just come busting into challengers. The benefit tour-level TTers have is they get direct entries to tour-level tourneys all year long. Us challenger-level players have to qualify for the big tourneys or work our ranking up by earning the little challenger points. It is not right for the top 30 to now just play challengers, even if there is nothing else to play. Either EVERYONE should be allowed to play challengers throughout the whole year, or the top 30 should be excluded from challengers all year.- I think that should be the bottom line.

Thanks:wavey:

I agree :)

Labamba
11-08-2009, 11:42 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

22/11/2009 WTF London IH 8/-/8/- Forever-Delayed

23/11/2009 Helsinki CH IS 32/16/16/8 orangehat
23/11/2009 Puebla CH H 32/16/16/8 diego36arg
23/11/2009 Toyota CH IS 32/16/16/8 CoolyBri


I guess orangehat will be back in time for Helsinki...

C'mon guys, the off-season is so close!

CoolyBri
11-08-2009, 11:57 AM
I could take Toyota if it's ok for the players to have late diffs (around 6:00 AM CET).

Labamba
11-08-2009, 01:11 PM
I could take Toyota if it's ok for the players to have late diffs (around 6:00 AM CET).

that's fine :)

diego36arg
11-08-2009, 02:34 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

22/11/2009 WTF London IH 8/-/8/- Forever-Delayed

23/11/2009 Helsinki CH IS 32/16/16/8 orangehat
23/11/2009 Puebla CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
23/11/2009 Toyota CH IS 32/16/16/8 ?


I guess orangehat will be back in time for Helsinki, so two managers needed for Puebla and Toyota :wavey:

Puebla for me Ville :D

Labamba
11-08-2009, 03:10 PM
Puebla for me Ville :D

thanks :banana:

JeffCandoi
11-08-2009, 07:15 PM
About Ozone's post, I agree :yeah:

AdeyC
11-08-2009, 08:24 PM
About Ozone's post, I agree :yeah:

So do I

Ozone
11-09-2009, 01:19 PM
So TT board, it looks like we have a unanimous opinion from those who have posted about me post. Can we have this done?? What do you guys think

diego36arg
11-09-2009, 01:20 PM
About Ozone's post, I agree :yeah:

Action Jackson
11-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Agree about TT top 30 players not playing challengers. They have more than enough opportunities during the year to gain good ranking points as they should get the benefits of a good ranking. Just makes it harder for players who are stuck in the challengers who are trying to work their way up the rankings.

Actually throw the top 30 players in challenger qualies.

Labamba
11-09-2009, 01:36 PM
So TT board, it looks like we have a unanimous opinion from those who have posted about me post. Can we have this done?? What do you guys think

People voted on this a year ago, but we can have another one during the off-season. Maybe opinions have changed...

Action Jackson
11-09-2009, 01:41 PM
One can dream Ville, I seriously doubt it will change though.

Machiavelli
11-09-2009, 01:44 PM
I am now a top30, i know how hard it was to climb up the rankings and to avoid ATP qualifying, so no top30 in CH should be a logical and fair choice...

Taz Warrior
11-09-2009, 01:58 PM
Either EVERYONE should be allowed to play challengers throughout the whole year, or the top 30 should be excluded from challengers all year.- I think that should be the bottom line.

I agree…my preferred option would be to have a complete ban on top 30 players playing Challengers but as Ville pointed out that has been voted on in the past maybe we should just allow anyone to play Challengers all year round. If a top 30 player wants to play a Challenger then at least that frees up a spot in an ATP-level tournament for a lower ranked player.

ibreak4coffee
11-09-2009, 02:02 PM
I agree…my preferred option would be to have a complete ban on top 30 players playing Challengers but as Ville pointed out that has been voted on in the past maybe we should just allow anyone to play Challengers all year round. If a top 30 player wants to play a Challenger then at least that frees up a spot in an ATP-level tournament for a lower ranked player.

If we cant agree on the top 30 thing, could we potentially also explore expanding challengers to 64 spots on those weeks when there are no main level tournaments?

Action Jackson
11-09-2009, 02:14 PM
I agree…my preferred option would be to have a complete ban on top 30 players playing Challengers but as Ville pointed out that has been voted on in the past maybe we should just allow anyone to play Challengers all year round. If a top 30 player wants to play a Challenger then at least that frees up a spot in an ATP-level tournament for a lower ranked player.

It hardly happens during the regular season that someone ranked high enough or in this case top 30 plays a challenger, hence it becomes the problem when Bercy is finished. Top 40 shouldn't play challengers or put them in the qualie draws.

Blarghman
11-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Something has come up, and I will probably need an assistant manager for one day of Champaign. :wavey:

I'm not sure which day yet, but it will probably be early in the week, someone else will need to post morning diffs and probably the evening OOP that day. I'll give plenty of warning once I do know what day I'll miss. Sorry for the inconvenience :o

Labamba
11-12-2009, 08:22 PM
this week (last of the season) :cool:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

22/11/2009 WTF London IH 8/-/8/- ?

30/11/2009 Davis Cup Final - 2 teams keqtqiadv
30/11/2009 Salzburg CH IH 32/32/16/16 Jens
30/11/2009 Khanty-Mansiysk CH IS 32/32/16/16 Tankman


Since F-D made it to London WTF, we need a new manager for it :wavey:

FiBeR
11-12-2009, 10:17 PM
Hello:

I would like to propose something that is really irritating me in TT.

Obviously, we are nearing the end of the season. So there is only Paris Masters and WTF left on the Tour-level schedule. Then, there are some challengers after that and during WTF.

The thing that bothers me is that now, ALL TTers can play challengers from WTF forward. I know it isn't too many tournaments, but I dont think it is right at all for top 30 players to just come busting into challengers. The benefit tour-level TTers have is they get direct entries to tour-level tourneys all year long. Us challenger-level players have to qualify for the big tourneys or work our ranking up by earning the little challenger points. It is not right for the top 30 to now just play challengers, even if there is nothing else to play. Either EVERYONE should be allowed to play challengers throughout the whole year, or the top 30 should be excluded from challengers all year.- I think that should be the bottom line.

Thanks:wavey:


i dont agree..this is just a game, you re excluding players because they did well? :scratch:

no point there. Besides being top 30 doesnt mean being good in challenger level. this is the time of the season challenger regulars face top tt stars and to see who they win.. if a ch player goes to an atp level tourney it is usually playing in the top tt player field.. now top tt players go to the ch players field..

it is fair.. and makes the game dinamic, entertaining and on top of it, competitive

l_mac
11-12-2009, 10:19 PM
I think Ozone is right.

But a compromise would be that Top 30 players can commit after 1st deadline.

Tankman
11-13-2009, 12:10 AM
Ville, I can take on Khanty-Mansiysk :wavey:

Labamba
11-13-2009, 08:08 AM
Ville, I can take on Khanty-Mansiysk :wavey:

Ok, if you're up for it :yeah:

Labamba
11-13-2009, 08:11 AM
Who's going to run London? :)

It deserves a good manager and it's not so tough to run...

dusan1610
11-13-2009, 11:09 AM
I think Ozone is right.

But a compromise would be that Top 30 players can commit after 1st deadline.
I agree

Zirconek
11-13-2009, 06:10 PM
what should I do in this case?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=9312694&postcount=102

Derevko/Mr. Brightside (commited in first week)
rototito/Mr. Brightside (commited in second week)
Derevko/rototito (it's not their fault)
leave all of them out of doubles

ExcaliburII
11-13-2009, 06:26 PM
Id say Devreko/Mr Brightside :shrug:

keqtqiadv
11-13-2009, 06:30 PM
"me? :cool:" is not a commitment :p

l_mac
11-13-2009, 06:31 PM
Who's going to run London? :)

It deserves a good manager and it's not so tough to run...

What time do the matches start?

I could do it, but I couldn't guarantee the diffs being posted by the time the first match starts. 4 of the days I could, and the other 4 the diffs would be about an hour after the singles matches start.

-Evita-
11-13-2009, 08:01 PM
"me? :cool:" is not a commitment :p

Exactly. Clearly Mr Brightside waited for Derevko to agree to their team but Derevko ignored it so Mr Brightside started looking for a different partner. I think it's definitely Mr Brightside/rototito and actually I see nothing unusual in this situation. It happens all the time.

Zirconek
11-13-2009, 08:05 PM
Thank you Pablo, Mulo and Linda :yeah:

-Evita-
11-13-2009, 08:08 PM
Thank you Pablo, Mulo and Linda :yeah:

You're welcome :o :(

l_mac
11-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Thank you Pablo, Mulo and Linda :yeah:

:lol:

You're welcome :hug:

Zirconek
11-13-2009, 08:14 PM
:lol: it's hard to distinguish you :haha:
:o :p

Labamba
11-14-2009, 03:02 PM
What time do the matches start?

I could do it, but I couldn't guarantee the diffs being posted by the time the first match starts. 4 of the days I could, and the other 4 the diffs would be about an hour after the singles matches start.

2.15 pm London time

maybe you could run it together with somebody who can be here on those 4 days?

l_mac
11-14-2009, 05:10 PM
2.15 pm London time

maybe you could run it together with somebody who can be here on those 4 days?

Adam said he would, but he seems to have deleted his post :mad:

Dupuis2006
11-14-2009, 07:05 PM
Is it true you can't play a Challenger next week if you play ATP Championships the following week? If so why as they are seperate weeks?

maru_angi
11-14-2009, 10:36 PM
Can play challengers (120 or 90 points)players with ranking 30 or less in weeks #46, #47 & #48????

Labamba
11-15-2009, 09:46 AM
Is it true you can't play a Challenger next week if you play ATP Championships the following week? If so why as they are seperate weeks?

It's true, the WTF starts already on Sunday.

Can play challengers (120 or 90 points)players with ranking 30 or less in weeks #46, #47 & #48????

yes, they can

maru_angi
11-15-2009, 12:58 PM
yes, they can

:sad:

maru_angi
11-15-2009, 01:19 PM
I hope that players with experience in challengers defeat to top 30 :spit: this will be funny :lol:

ExcaliburII
11-15-2009, 08:48 PM
TT is mostly luck, its not that the #1 will always defeat the #300. Even more in challengers :shrug:

maru_angi
11-15-2009, 09:34 PM
Of course !!! But i don´t like to play the qualy in a challenger because the top players commited there. :spit:

Action Jackson
11-16-2009, 11:23 AM
I think Ozone is right.

But a compromise would be that Top 30 players can commit after 1st deadline.

Not a bad compromise, though putting them in qualies would be better, if the entry list is already complete.

Labamba
11-16-2009, 07:53 PM
Adam said he would, but he seems to have deleted his post :mad:

Well, you can start the thread anyway. If somebody wants to help, they can say it later.

l_mac
11-16-2009, 07:55 PM
Well, you can start the thread anyway. If somebody wants to help, they can say it later.

Don't worry. I will call in sick to work if need be. :rocker2:

ExcaliburII
11-16-2009, 11:43 PM
So what scheduling are we going to do at London? 12 Round Robin matches, plus 2 SF and 1 F.

As usual the last three matches should make the Final for TT.

I say 3,3,3,3 for the other 4 TT matches. :scratch:

I dont know what schedule was used at last years TMC.

FiBeR
11-17-2009, 12:15 AM
:lol: little pablin excited for his first TMC berth :hearts:

ExcaliburII
11-17-2009, 12:19 AM
:cuckoo:

savesthedizzle
11-17-2009, 12:19 AM
:lol: little pablin excited for his first TMC berth victory :hearts:

fixed :D

although considering my record at the TMC :tape: :tape:

-Evita-
11-17-2009, 04:57 PM
Don't worry. I will call in sick to work if need be. :rocker2:

If that doesn't work out I can help :) Though I wonder if it's really necessary, lots of managers publish the differences an hour late.

l_mac
11-17-2009, 06:48 PM
If that doesn't work out I can help :) Though I wonder if it's really necessary, lots of managers publish the differences an hour late.

Maybe this is special because it is WTF.

Thanks Evita.

I will start the thread tomorrow afternoon.

Blarghman
11-17-2009, 09:14 PM
I posted earlier and got no responses, so I'll try again; I will unfortunately not have computer access for some periods towards the end of the week, and may need some help with Champaign CH :wavey:

I probably won't be around when Thursday's OOP comes out tomorrow night, but given that it'll just be the four QF matches, I don't think that'll cause too much trouble, people can just send all PTS for the matches. I'll be back to do the full results that night, so it shouldn't be a huge problem.

However, I also won't be around to post diffs on Thursday afternoon (at 12 PM local, 7 PM CET). If someone wants help out by assisting, that'd be great, but otherwise it could be a couple of hours of waiting (until say 2 PM local). I will also have a similar problem Friday afternoon (diffs will be late), so help would be appreciated then as well.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but RL tends to interfere at inopportune times :help:

l_mac
11-17-2009, 09:21 PM
I posted earlier and got no responses, so I'll try again; I will unfortunately not have computer access for some periods towards the end of the week, and may need some help with Champaign CH :wavey:

I probably won't be around when Thursday's OOP comes out tomorrow night, but given that it'll just be the four QF matches, I don't think that'll cause too much trouble, people can just send all PTS for the matches. I'll be back to do the full results that night, so it shouldn't be a huge problem.

However, I also won't be around to post diffs on Thursday afternoon (at 12 PM local, 7 PM CET). If someone wants help out by assisting, that'd be great, but otherwise it could be a couple of hours of waiting (until say 2 PM local). I will also have a similar problem Friday afternoon (diffs will be late), so help would be appreciated then as well.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but RL tends to interfere at inopportune times :help:

I can help you tomorrow and Thursday.

Blarghman
11-17-2009, 09:31 PM
I can help you tomorrow and Thursday.

Thank you :worship:

As I said, you'll need to post the Thursday OOP tomorrow evening and Thursday diffs at 12 PM local.

Thanks again :D

I will still need someone to help for Friday, though :help:

Blarghman
11-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Do you need differences posted on Friday? I can post the OOP, but I'm not sure I'll be around to do diffs.

Yeah, I only need the OOP tomorrow night, I will be available to do OOPs on Thursday and Friday. The problem is that I won't be available on the afternoon on the two later days.

l_mac
11-17-2009, 09:34 PM
Yeah, I only need the OOP tomorrow night, I can do OOPs on Thursday and Friday.

I'll do the differences on Friday too. I might have to make the deadline slightrly earlier than the start of play, hopefully that is okay.

Blarghman
11-17-2009, 09:37 PM
I'll do the differences on Friday too. I might have to make the deadline slightrly earlier than the start of play, hopefully that is okay.

I would guess it is better than no diffs at all. The tournament hasn't had many late senders thus far, picks have generally been in pretty early, so it should be fine :)

Thanks for the help, you're awesome :worship:

-Evita-
11-17-2009, 09:42 PM
I might have to make the deadline slightrly earlier than the start of play, hopefully that is okay.

I don't think that's okay, the rules say the deadline has to be at the start of play. If everyone has sent early then you can publish differences early but you can't refuse to accept picks sent before the deadline in the real OOP. I think :unsure:

orangehat
11-17-2009, 11:57 PM
I don't think that's okay, the rules say the deadline has to be at the start of play. If everyone has sent early then you can publish differences early but you can't refuse to accept picks sent before the deadline in the real OOP. I think :unsure:

I thought the rules state that you had to send picks before the manager's deadline, EVEN IF play hasn't started?

-Evita-
11-18-2009, 07:23 AM
I thought the rules state that you had to send picks before the manager's deadline, EVEN IF play hasn't started?

Yes, and they also state that the deadline is taken from the OOP, the time when play is supposed to start.

Peta Pan
11-18-2009, 07:39 AM
I don't think that's okay, the rules say the deadline has to be at the start of play. If everyone has sent early then you can publish differences early but you can't refuse to accept picks sent before the deadline in the real OOP. I think :unsure:
Is that really a rule? :scratch: I would have thought a deadline is a deadline and diffs couldn't be published before then even if everyone has sent... sometimes people decide to change their picks closer to the deadline

orangehat
11-18-2009, 08:16 AM
Yes, and they also state that the deadline is taken from the OOP, the time when play is supposed to start.

Well I remember sometimes when the Challengers OoP weren't available on the website the managers just had to set their deadlines earlier such that it was definitely before play started, which is similar to this situation anyway.

-Evita-
11-18-2009, 08:24 AM
Is that really a rule? :scratch: I would have thought a deadline is a deadline and diffs couldn't be published before then even if everyone has sent... sometimes people decide to change their picks closer to the deadline

You're right, it's not a rule. Still, if I have to choose whether to publish differences 10 minutes early or an hour late I'll choose 10 minutes early (if everyone has sent). Sometimes real life gets in the way and I've done exactly this on occasion and it's never been a problem. Very few players change their picks actually, especially in the latter stages of a tournament.

Well I remember sometimes when the Challengers OoP weren't available on the website the managers just had to set their deadlines earlier such that it was definitely before play started, which is similar to this situation anyway.

If the OOP isn't available then it's a different situation obviously.

Hotzenplotz
11-18-2009, 10:50 AM
Ville, how is the number of months for the PR counted? Exactly or by complete calendar months? I think I may be out of the game from December 7 to June 6, so would this be 6 months?

Zirconek
11-18-2009, 10:54 AM
I set an early deadline for yesterday's matches in Bratislava, but it was because in one of the courts the match would start right after other match, and not "not before X time", and there were 2 ITF women's match and a doubles match, I gave 2 hours for this 3 matches :lol:

Labamba
11-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Ville, how is the number of months for the PR counted? Exactly or by complete calendar months? I think I may be out of the game from December 7 to June 6, so would this be 6 months?

exactly, so that would be 6 months and 6 PR's

Hotzenplotz
11-19-2009, 09:36 PM
exactly, so that would be 6 months and 6 PR's

thanks, so that's what I'm going to do. I'll be out of the game from December 7 to June 6 :)

Tankman
11-27-2009, 11:39 PM
Considering there looks like that there will not be qualifying in Khanty, what options do I have?

All I can think of at the moment are:

1) Use another tournament's matches (Salzburg/Futures/WTF)
2) Have a 64 player singles, 32 player doubles main draw

Labamba
11-28-2009, 07:54 AM
Considering there looks like that there will not be qualifying in Khanty, what options do I have?

All I can think of at the moment are:

1) Use another tournament's matches (Salzburg/Futures/WTF)
2) Have a 64 player singles, 32 player doubles main draw

let's wait to see the draws, but option 2 sounds better

Tankman
11-28-2009, 07:05 PM
The qualifying OOP/draw for KM is now up. Is it too late now?

Allez-Alejo
11-30-2009, 03:14 PM
when will next year's become available?

Labamba
11-30-2009, 03:19 PM
when will next year's become available?

fairly soon...next week at the latest

Action Jackson
12-01-2009, 08:36 AM
When is this vote about top 30 players playing Challengers?

-Evita-
12-01-2009, 10:13 AM
When is this vote about top 30 players playing Challengers?

I would suggest top 40 instead of top 30. And I don't think they need to be banned from playing challengers, I think they should simply be LE's no matter when they commit. And the rule should be the same all year long no matter what other tournaments are in the same week.

Action Jackson
12-01-2009, 10:35 AM
I would suggest top 40 instead of top 30. And I don't think they need to be banned from playing challengers, I think they should simply be LE's no matter when they commit. And the rule should be the same all year long no matter what other tournaments are in the same week.

I mean I don't want them there at all. The initial suggestion was from Ozone, he said top 30, but I said top 40. The top 40 have more than enough events in the year to play at main level to keep their rankings up, that they shouldn't be playing challengers.

-Evita-
12-01-2009, 10:40 AM
Yes, but it's possible that some of them just like to play a challenger now and then, not for points but for other reasons, perhaps their favorite tennis player is playing the challenger or it's in their home country/town or they want to play doubles with someone ranked low. I don't see the harm in letting top players enter as LE, either they will play qualifying or there will be free spots for them in the main draw. The point is that they won't take away the free spots that lower-ranked players need.

Action Jackson
12-01-2009, 10:44 AM
Salzburg this week is reason enough as to why they shouldn't play challengers. Stick them in qualies.

-Evita-
12-01-2009, 10:54 AM
Salzburg this week is reason enough as to why they shouldn't play challengers. Stick them in qualies.

First you say they shouldn't play challengers, then you say they should play [challenger] qualies :rolleyes: It's a bit of a contradiction.

Taz Warrior
12-01-2009, 11:43 AM
:wavey: Any votes or discussions on rule changes will take place in the off-season, i.e. after this week's tournaments have finished

FiBeR
12-04-2009, 03:48 AM
thanks pablin :)

ExcaliburII
12-04-2009, 03:54 AM
Why are you asking? :scratch: Its just an exhibition tournament...

Spadea TT
12-12-2009, 06:25 PM
No TT awards this year??? :sad:

Taz Warrior
12-12-2009, 06:29 PM
No TT awards this year??? :sad:

There will be - I think Ville is working on the nominations :D

Spadea TT
12-13-2009, 04:33 AM
Great :D :worship: