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Tommy DIDN'T Star in L.A. -Countrywide Classic - Aug 4th -10th 2008

16681
08-02-2008, 04:25 AM
This is a weak field Tournament where Tommy could do a lot of damage. However, having said that it now seems like when Tommy is in Tournaments with weak fields he seems to either get sick or that shoulder flares up again :sad:

Tommy fan
08-02-2008, 06:14 AM
3rd week in a row that Tommy is playing, haven't seen that for a while ;)
I hope he's healthy and can keep up the good preformance, if he is, than he hsould go (very) far here.
C'mon Tommy!!! Best of luck!!

TommyB.
08-02-2008, 09:09 AM
Here's the Main Draw. I think we will see a new clash with Arod. Tommy should win his first rounds but step by step. GL Tommy!!


(1) RODDICK, Andy USA/BYE
LU, Yen-Hsun TPE v QUALIFIER
(WC) FLEISHMAN, Zack USA v GICQUEL, Marc FRA
YOUNG, Donald USA v (8) HAAS, Tommy GER

(4) LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP/BYE
GREMELMAYR, Denis GER v FOGNINI, Fabio ITA
ODESNIK, Wayne USA v REYNOLDS, Bobby USA
ISNER, John USA v (5) SAFIN, Marat RUS

(7) MOYA, Carlos ESP v (WC) MALISSE, Xavier BEL
QUALIFIER v SELA, Dudi ISR
KUNITSYN, Igor RUS v QUALIFIER
BYE/(3) DEL POTRO, Juan Martin ARG

(6) FISH, Mardy USA v FALLA, Alejandro COL
SPADEA, Vincent USA v GROSJEAN, Sebastien FRA
QUALIFIER v SERRA, Florent FRA
BYE/(2/WC) VERDASCO, Fernando ESP

Wyna
08-02-2008, 11:13 AM
This is a weak field Tournament where Tommy could do a lot of damage. However, having said that it now seems like when Tommy is in Tournaments with weak fields he seems to either get sick or that shoulder flares up again :sad:

No, no, no! Not going to happen this time *pressing thumbs*

Interesting draw. Let's hope for another meeting with Roddick (and for another Tommy-victory ;))

el tenista
08-02-2008, 12:16 PM
Hmm, okay, a possible QF against A-Rod...Of course Tommy can win there!
Safin vs. Isner is interesting as well :D

thefly
08-02-2008, 12:16 PM
3rd week in a row that Tommy is playing, haven't seen that for a while ;)

4th week in a row, no?

Yeah, not the greatest competition, but that could be a pretty early clash with Andy. Hoped he may be higher seeded.
Still, a lot is possible. Playing these first rounds after playing on par with Nadal must feel pretty easy ... ;)
And Young is also a lefty. :p

Btw, did they reduce the players field due to the Olympics?! Never seen first round "byes" for seeds at these kind of tournaments before.

Tommy fan
08-02-2008, 01:27 PM
This is However, having said that it now seems like when Tommy is in Tournaments with weak fields he seems to either get sick or that shoulder flares up again :sad:
but from the QF he seems to have a pretty tough way, so maybe it's not look so weak now.. ;)
4th week in a row, no?

Yeah, not the greatest competition, but that could be a pretty early clash with Andy. Hoped he may be higher seeded.
Still, a lot is possible. Playing these first rounds after playing on par with Nadal must feel pretty easy ... ;)
And Young is also a lefty. :p

Btw, did they reduce the players field due to the Olympics?! Never seen first round "byes" for seeds at these kind of tournaments before.

Oh right, I forgot about Indy, and I hope Tommy did so too ;)
And yes, I think they did it because of the olymipcs.

16681
08-02-2008, 09:51 PM
Well Andy has either been hurt or has been playing awful as of late. Tommy has defeated Andy even when Andy wasn't playing so poorly. I still think if Tommy stays healthy and keeps his head in his Matches he can pick up some points here.
Of course, a win would be nice; but that may be asking too much right now ;)

Lugburz
08-03-2008, 08:15 AM
Well ,of course step by step this time...First is Young who can be very dangerous but I think Tommy really can handle that one...Again,it will be nice to see him play ! From 5 tours in which he is expected to play he has 4/5 in his pocket for now,that is terrific and Washington next,so he can reach that famous 32 seed...Let's hope he can do that ! Fingers crossed !

Wyna
08-03-2008, 04:31 PM
Of course, a win would be nice; but that may be asking too much right now ;)

But we are allowed to dream, aren't we?

oranges
08-03-2008, 05:46 PM
Well Andy has either been hurt or has been playing awful as of late. Tommy has defeated Andy even when Andy wasn't playing so poorly. I still think if Tommy stays healthy and keeps his head in his Matches he can pick up some points here.
Of course, a win would be nice; but that may be asking too much right now ;)

I actually expect him to win that one, barring any injury problems hopefully. Cilic did it while playing far from the best expected from a talented 19-year old, no reason why Tommy shouldn't. The recipe for winning over Roddick for some time now has been return it inside lines and play. Out-playing Roddick after the return shouldn't be that much of a problem as it stands now, that forehand he used to maintain the upper hand after a good serve hasn't been seen in a while ;)

Lugburz
08-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Live streaming....anywhere ? :shrug:

el tenista
08-03-2008, 07:47 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=tennis&allowedDays=7

Only Saturday and Sunday! So no streaming of a possible Roddick - Haas encounter :sad:

thefly
08-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Well, according to the Countrywide Classic page, ESPN2 also seems to show the night session on friday, so let's see ...

16681
08-03-2008, 11:12 PM
But we are allowed to dream, aren't we?
Of course ;) :angel:

thefly
08-04-2008, 12:36 AM
No Tommy on monday.

Lugburz
08-04-2008, 04:39 AM
affirmative ...
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/423/op.pdf

thefly
08-04-2008, 03:00 PM
From the current ATP Tennis Weekly (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/media/ATW/2008/ATPTennisWeekly19.25.pdf):

ONES TO WATCH

TOMMY HAAS will attempt to
reclaim the Los Angeles title after
missing last year’s tournament. The
30-year-old German has won 11 of
his past 12 matches at this event,
titling in 2004 (d. Kiefer) and ‘06 (ld
Tursunov) and reaching the 2nd RD
in ‘05 (l. to Malisse). Overall, he has
a 13-3 lifetime record in Los
Angeles, including a QF result on
his event debut in ‘01 (l. to Malisse).
The No. 8 seed this week plays his
1st RD match against American
teenager Donald Young.

Reads pretty good. What a record. And Tommy is the only past titlist, it appears.

Wyna
08-04-2008, 09:39 PM
I really hope that he can continue with his good L.A. results.

16681
08-05-2008, 12:42 AM
I think the name of this Tournament has been changed. I saw on a Live Scoring Site it was listed as the Mercedez-Benz Cup. Countrywide was a company that really got hurt by the home loan mess here in the U.S. So they probably couldn't sponsor the Tournament this year. Anyway it is the Tournament in L.A. so I don't guess the "official" name really matters anyway :lol:

16681
08-05-2008, 12:46 AM
From the current ATP Tennis Weekly (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/media/ATW/2008/ATPTennisWeekly19.25.pdf):



Reads pretty good. What a record. And Tommy is the only past titlist, it appears.
Of course, wouldn't you expect a "Star" like Tommy to do well in a city that is full of Stars ;) Plus he can see his g/f a lot when he is in California :rolleyes: But I think she has become pretty much a regular at all of Tommy's Tournaments anyway :ras:

Lugburz
08-05-2008, 01:22 AM
Order of Play for Tuesday:
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/423/op.pdf

Tommy won't play before 7:30pm local time,that's 4:30am European...

TennisFan2012
08-05-2008, 03:00 AM
Go Tommy!

I would be very surprised if Andy Roddick plays this tournament. His history is not to withdraw if there is any way that he can play, so when he withdrew from a Masters series event, you know there is something really wrong. I don't think he would want to jeopardize recovery by coming back too quickly, especially not on a smaller tournament (smaller than Masters series).

el tenista
08-05-2008, 10:43 AM
I think the name of this Tournament has been changed. I saw on a Live Scoring Site it was listed as the Mercedez-Benz Cup. Countrywide was a company that really got hurt by the home loan mess here in the U.S. So they probably couldn't sponsor the Tournament this year. Anyway it is the Tournament in L.A. so I don't guess the "official" name really matters anyway :lol:

I think it is Countrywide Classic :)
http://www.countrywideclassic.com/

Wyna
08-05-2008, 11:56 AM
Of course, wouldn't you expect a "Star" like Tommy to do well in a city that is full of Stars ;) Plus he can see his g/f a lot when he is in California :rolleyes: But I think she has become pretty much a regular at all of Tommy's Tournaments anyway :ras:

Not a fan of her? :lol:

Order of Play for Tuesday:
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/423/op.pdf

Tommy won't play before 7:30pm local time,that's 4:30am European...

Damn...but would there be a livestream if I got the crazy idea to get up at this time?

TommyB.
08-05-2008, 01:39 PM
Damn...but would there be a livestream if I got the crazy idea to get up at this time?

I won't get up at this time to watch the scoreboard. ;) There's no livestream before Saturday (maybe Friday).

Lugburz
08-05-2008, 05:12 PM
I won't get up at this time to watch the scoreboard. ;) There's no livestream before Saturday (maybe Friday).

Probably I will be awake,as I will be on the concert before that :D

thefly
08-05-2008, 06:00 PM
Hmm, tempting; my holidays are finally here, so ... :p

Who are you seeing, Lugburz?

Wyna
08-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Hmm, tempting; my holidays are finally here, so ... :p



Ok, I have holidays too, but seriously, I am not getting up to watch the live score. If could watch Tommy and when the match would be worth it I would probably do it, but only for staring at the live score - no chance.
I will try to support him in my dreams :lol:

Tartarita
08-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Hi girls!

I am a bit lost about Tommy's private life.

Do you know if he has girlfriend?
I know it is a stupid curiosity i will never meet Tommy! hahaha
it is just female curiosity ;) you understand me :aplot:

Tks girls!

el tenista
08-05-2008, 07:25 PM
His girlfriend is Sara Foster...

16681
08-05-2008, 07:38 PM
Not a fan of her? :lol:



Damn...but would there be a livestream if I got the crazy idea to get up at this time?
No I'm definitely not a fan of Sara's :ras: Tommy could do a lot better than her IMHO. I will change the name of the Tournament back later. Right now MTF is moving so slowly for me it takes so long to post anything :sad: :mad:

Tartarita
08-05-2008, 09:09 PM
His girlfriend is Sara Foster...

Thanks el tenista!! ;)

el tenista
08-05-2008, 09:41 PM
Thanks el tenista!! ;)

You're welcome ;)

DragonFly
08-06-2008, 01:50 AM
Only a couple of hours aways until Tommys match starts but I'm so tired I'm never going to stay awake.

I'm dreading the horrible feeling when I wake up rushing to get the computer started to check the result :sad:

Come on Tommy!

Glinda
08-06-2008, 02:01 AM
Weirdly, I'm awake at this hour and not tired in the slightest... and now I get to know there is no livestream :bigcry:


...

anyways - GO TOMMY :bigclap:

oranges
08-06-2008, 03:21 AM
No, just staring at SB, so frustrating :banghead:

Good luck, Tommy

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:20 AM
Why am I awake anyways? :shrug:

:tears:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:21 AM
No, just staring at SB, so frustrating :banghead:

Good luck, Tommy
I can tell you something worse than that :rolleyes: The scoring score I'm using says it is 4-1 Donald Young in the 1st Set :eek:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:24 AM
Make that 5-1 Young in the 1st Set :rolleyes: Since I can't see anything; I have no idea what is going on with Tommy, but it can't be good :ras:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:26 AM
5-2 Young in the 1st Set. May be Tommy is slowly warming up, I hope :angel:

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:27 AM
I know, terrible so far, two breaks. Lets hope it'll turn around in the second set.

16681
08-06-2008, 04:31 AM
I know, terrible so far, two breaks. Lets hope it'll turn around in the second set.
Please :angel:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:33 AM
Nooo :( And again a break... :tears:

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:33 AM
Oh man, a break in the second again. Is he well? He's not injured again :scared:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:34 AM
With the 1st Set being 6-2 Young things have to get better right :scared: This was not what I expected at all :confused:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:35 AM
it would be really nice to have a livestream ...

16681
08-06-2008, 04:35 AM
Oh man, a break in the second again. Is he well? He's not injured again :scared:
Sick or injured were thoughts that came to my mind :sad:

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:36 AM
Break back, thank you :bigclap:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:37 AM
it would be really nice to have a livestream ...
The way this Match is going perhaps it is best not to have livestream :rolleyes: But then we might find out for sure if something is wrong with Tommy :unsure:

16681
08-06-2008, 04:39 AM
Break back, thank you :bigclap:
oranges where are you getting your scoring from?

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:40 AM
oranges where are you getting your scoring from?

The live score linked from ATP site. Why, you guys have a delay in results?

16681
08-06-2008, 04:41 AM
2-1 Tommy in the 2nd Set.

16681
08-06-2008, 04:42 AM
The live score linked from ATP site. Why, you guys have a delay in results?
I don't think I can use it because I think the Flash Level is too high for this piece of junk I'm using :sad:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:43 AM
Imo, nothing's worse than not knowing whats up :tears:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:44 AM
The live score linked from ATP site. Why, you guys have a delay in results?

It works for me :)

16681
08-06-2008, 04:47 AM
It doesn't work for me :( Please keep me up to date because I don't know how timely my scoring site is :sad:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:48 AM
3:2 for Tommy :D

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:48 AM
3:2 Tommy

16681
08-06-2008, 04:49 AM
All right :D Thanks ;) My scoring site is behind it was saying 2-2.

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 04:54 AM
What's up with Tommy :( 2-6 first,now it is 3-3

oranges
08-06-2008, 04:55 AM
We'll let you know when something important is happening immediately :D. For now, both on serve 3:3

16681
08-06-2008, 04:56 AM
3-3 :rolleyes:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:56 AM
4:3 Tommy now ...

16681
08-06-2008, 04:57 AM
We'll let you know when something important is happening immediately :D. For now, both on serve 3:3
Thanks :angel:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 04:57 AM
I'm scared now :unsure:

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Yeah ! C'mon Tommy break him now !

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:02 AM
Am I wide awake in this hour for nothing ?! C'mon Tommy you can do that !

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:03 AM
Young has 2 BPs :(

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:04 AM
Make that one

16681
08-06-2008, 05:04 AM
Is this the longest game in history?

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:04 AM
and none, deuce

16681
08-06-2008, 05:06 AM
My scoring site is showing 4-4.

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:07 AM
not anymore 5-4 to Yound:( :(

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:08 AM
Is this the longest game in history?

:lol: No, but staring at the board makes everything look like eternity. I always think there's a five minute break between serves.


And while I'm typing, Young converted the 4th BP :mad:

16681
08-06-2008, 05:10 AM
:lol: No, but staring at the board makes everything look like eternity. I always think there's a five minute break between serves.


And while I'm typing, Young converted the 4th BP :mad:
I know what you mean :lol: But this Match is awful :( I'm shocked :eek:

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:12 AM
Two match points :sad:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 05:14 AM
:sad: 6:4 :sad:

DragonFly
08-06-2008, 05:15 AM
What on earth was that :sad:

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:16 AM
Tommy.....Not again..I am in a deep shock right now :mad::o:banghead::banghead::banghead:

oranges
08-06-2008, 05:16 AM
Bah, I can't believe this. 6:2 6:4 against Young :eek::awww::banghead::bigcry:

Glinda
08-06-2008, 05:16 AM
Never watching a match on Scoreboard again! :(

16681
08-06-2008, 05:18 AM
I'm speechless :tape: :tape:

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:19 AM
Never watching a match on Scoreboard again! :(

Well at least I had positive experience.....

Glinda
08-06-2008, 05:21 AM
Well at least I had positive experience.....

What? :confused:


I'm more like... dead :silly:

16681
08-06-2008, 05:22 AM
My only thought is I hope Tommy has fun with his g/f :ras:

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:23 AM
What? :confused:


I'm more like... dead :silly:

I meant previous games that we watched on scoreboard,like Isner,Levine et..that were all wins for Tommy...

Glinda
08-06-2008, 05:33 AM
I meant previous games that we watched on scoreboard,like Isner,Levine et..that were all wins for Tommy...

Ah.. I should have guessed :rolleyes: Blame it on the shock...

I absolutely hate not really knowing what is going on when someone I like is losing unexpectedly! :sad: ... I'm always imagining the worst (injury, ...) and start to worry probably a lot more than necessary...

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:35 AM
Ah.. I should have guessed :rolleyes: Blame it on the shock...

I absolutely hate not really knowing what is going on when someone I like is losing unexpectedly! :sad: ... I'm always imagining the worst (injury, ...)

Yeah it is difficult to observe this way..I mean there should be some good reason Tommy loosing to this guy?! I wish I could have seen it ? What was wrong with Tommy,only God knows...

Glinda
08-06-2008, 05:38 AM
I don't even know if I want there to be a good reason or not... :D

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 05:43 AM
I don't even know if I want there to be a good reason or not... :D
Me neither ;) But something went wrong after all,I mean Tommy must have been so tired after god performance showed in Cincy,or it was just a really bad day..Because I don't see anything special in Young so that ha can beat Tommy this easily :rolleyes:

ouch
08-06-2008, 06:47 AM
This is so sad. :sad:

When I got up this morning I was really looking forward to check the results to start the day with a smile ... and now this.
Why? How?

I just hope - no - I am sure he´ll get his act together for the next tournaments, especially the US Open.

TommyB.
08-06-2008, 08:12 AM
I'm speechless :tape: :tape:

Me too. :help: What happened there? I'd like to hear a statement.

thefly
08-06-2008, 09:45 AM
Nice to see there were so many people up late last night. Or early this morning. Whatever.

I'm glad now I didn't stay awake. I was really shocked by the result. I read Tommy played pretty badly (at least he said so himself), with lots of UE's on the forehand. I don't know ... not the right time for "one of these days". I can't imagine whether it's lack of motivation, pressure, or just fatigue. This performance doesn't fit, after going out against people like Davydenko and Nadal (especially considering this last match).
Who knows. Maybe this many tournaments and all that traveling in such a short time wasn't so good, after all.
Now it's again west coast the the east. Let's see how that's going to work out ...

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Nice to see there were so many people up late last night. Or early this morning. Whatever.

I'm glad now I didn't stay awake. I was really shocked by the result. I read Tommy played pretty badly (at least he said so himself), with lots of UE's on the forehand. I don't know ... not the right time for "one of these days". I can't imagine whether it's lack of motivation, pressure, or just fatigue. This performance doesn't fit, after going out against people like Davydenko and Nadal (especially considering this last match).
Who knows. Maybe this many tournaments and all that traveling in such a short time wasn't so good, after all.
Now it's again west coast the the east. Let's see how that's going to work out ...

Hope that is going to work out well,because I won't be awake if he decides to mess around with us ;)
Well,guys you probably won't believe me,but I didn't sleep all night,still awake,waiting for a long nap...Oh Tommy,what have you done ? :D
But again,I am pretty calm right now,because I had really rough and bad night

TommyB.
08-06-2008, 10:48 AM
Who knows. Maybe this many tournaments and all that traveling in such a short time wasn't so good, after all.
Now it's again west coast the the east. Let's see how that's going to work out ...

Yes that's a good point...his summer schedule is enormous. He should have skip Los Angeles maybe. I think he struggled with some fatigue here after three intensive weeks. Fortunately not a new injury or illness.

Wyna
08-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Disappointing. That's all I can say about it. I really didn't want to believe my eyes when I checked the score this morning. Fortunately I didn't get up to watch the live score.
I was really hoping Tommy would do well and gain some points...

Wyna
08-06-2008, 01:52 PM
Now it's again west coast the the east. Let's see how that's going to work out ...

He has a week to handle this, he should be able to so it. (I hope)

TennisFan2012
08-06-2008, 04:07 PM
Is Tommy going to play Washington?

Wyna
08-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Is Tommy going to play Washington?

yes

thefly
08-06-2008, 04:30 PM
He has a week to handle this, he should be able to so it. (I hope)

Well, the match is just some hours old, and it's wednesday already. So, yes, he will have some time to acclimatise in DC.
But the thing is, he basicly just arrived in LA. Now it's back into the plane again. Can't be good.

But in the end I guess that's all just alibi excuses. He should be pro enough to shrug that off and defeat someone like Young. Yes, we all can't imagine how all his troubles have truely affected him and where exactly he stands now concerning not just his game but also his tour routine, so all this may still be a factor not to be underestimated. But ... well, you could talk this to death. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens. ;)

Lugburz
08-06-2008, 08:22 PM
Well, the match is just some hours old, and it's wednesday already. So, yes, he will have some time to acclimatise in DC.
But the thing is, he basicly just arrived in LA. Now it's back into the plane again. Can't be good.

But in the end I guess that's all just alibi excuses. He should be pro enough to shrug that off and defeat someone like Young. Yes, we all can't imagine how all his troubles have truely affected him and where exactly he stands now concerning not just his game but also his tour routine, so all this may still be a factor not to be underestimated. But ... well, you could talk this to death. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens. ;)

Really good post! I also think that's just excuses,which makes us to suffer less.He really should have won.Maybe we do have some excuses but I haven't heard any from Tommy for now.So 'til then we can relax.
Washington next,really don't know what to expect there as I already had big expectations about LA,
so I think it is good to see him play in Wash after all..Auf Geht's !

16681
08-07-2008, 12:25 AM
Yes I remember earlier in the thread we were all talking about him playing Roddick and defeating him :rolleyes: I guess that is what the players mean when they say take one Match at a time! But if Tommy keeps having results like this against players like Young I look for him to retire :sad: I just don't think he will want to put up with that much humiliation :sad: :sad: :sad:

16681
08-07-2008, 02:36 AM
All I have found so far is a quote from Tommy that said "Sometimes playing someone for the first time can be difficult".
No joke Tommy :rolleyes: Nothing about being sick or hurt that I can find now. But that quote didn't sound like he was too upset about the Match :eek: I would like to hear more from Tommy.