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Johnny Groove
06-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Those were tough times, at least now it's become completely transparent that Roger hasn't a chance in hell of beating Nadal on the dirt.

Part of the disappointment was just feeling like Roger was the best player on all surfaces and Nadal somehow was an intruder that didn't deserve to be there, but now it's easier to accept given that he's a legitimate threat against Roger at Wimbledon and thoroughly dismissed him at Roland Garros.

Emotions got the better of me, so what ?

I'm a traditionalist.

PD :hug:

I feel like this is an AA meeting

"Hello, my name is Jonathan and I'm a Rafatard"

scarecrows
06-19-2008, 08:15 PM
You need to be more honest in the true art of despising Fakervic above everything. Above your liking of Nadal too. ;) :p

that's because he was a Djokovic fan till a few months ago

Johnny Groove
06-19-2008, 08:16 PM
that's because he was a Djokovic fan till a few months ago

and thats because i met him in Miami 07 and thought he was an alright guy :shrug:

Its just his fans and parents and what not that turned me off to him

Deboogle!.
06-19-2008, 08:16 PM
Maybe i just see it a different way but i think that the spice and sauce of the fiery posters on GM in regards to insults and what not are what add style and substance, you know?

I used to not feel this way, when i first came on here, i couldn't really handle all the insults and shit and guys like PD and GM would, i'll admit it, make me want to :sad:. But then again, that was when i was 16 :lol:

Now at 18, i take pretty much everything said on here with a pound of salt and look to add fun to every discussion.

Gu's consistent belidgering of the fakertards, CD's incessant and droning threads about the Clay Monster, Aloimeh and Farenhajt's complete and total delusion with anything tennis related, i think it all contributes to the overall MTF community. :DMaybe it adds to the fun for you, maybe you've been here long enough to get over it, but that doesn't mean it's ok. I know more than once people have come to MTF after having a really awful day and just wanted to talk about tennis or something and someone goes after them. Do we really want MTF or GM to be responsible for upsetting people and ruining their days? I just don't see the need for it. Because a few people think it's funny? It's like the It's just totally pointless to me :shrug:

Johnny Groove
06-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Maybe it adds to the fun for you, maybe you've been here long enough to get over it, but that doesn't mean it's ok. I know more than once people have come to MTF after having a really awful day and just wanted to talk about tennis or something and someone goes after them. Do we really want MTF or GM to be responsible for upsetting people and ruining their days? I just don't see the need for it. Because a few people think it's funny? It's like the It's just totally pointless to me :shrug:

I know exactly what your point is and can sympathise with it, but i simply feel another way :hug:

BTW, if i had a bad day, GM would be the last place i'd visit, unless i wanted to troll for fun to let off some steam :lol:

habibko
06-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Maybe it adds to the fun for you, maybe you've been here long enough to get over it, but that doesn't mean it's ok. I know more than once people have come to MTF after having a really awful day and just wanted to talk about tennis or something and someone goes after them. Do we really want MTF or GM to be responsible for upsetting people and ruining their days? I just don't see the need for it. Because a few people think it's funny? It's like the It's just totally pointless to me :shrug:

exactly my case, I was at shock when I first sensed the hostile atmosphere in GM, but now after several months I'm pretty used to it, but it certainly isn't so "normal" at the beginning.

but now it's pretty fun IMO :rolleyes: :o

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:20 PM
Maybe i just see it a different way but i think that the spice and sauce of the fiery posters on GM in regards to insults and what not are what add style and substance, you know?

I used to not feel this way, when i first came on here, i couldn't really handle all the insults and shit and guys like PD and GM would, i'll admit it, make me want to :sad:. But then again, that was when i was 16 :lol:

Now at 18, i take pretty much everything said on here with a pound of salt and look to add fun to every discussion.

Gu's consistent belidgering of the fakertards, CD's incessant and droning threads about the Clay Monster, Aloimeh and Farenhajt's complete and total delusion with anything tennis related, i think it all contributes to the overall MTF community. :D

Well it adds *something* - and sometimes it's fun, but what it largely seems to do is prevent any sort of rational discussion about tennis.

People try to actually discuss a point of tennis - strategy, technique, matchplay, mental strength, whatever - and it just ends up with sloganizing (mug, faker, moonballer, WTA, choker etc etc) and then insults toward the posters, generalisations about fans of one player or another, and an awful lot of gibberish.

You do a match result thread and the actual analysis and discussion of the match features constitutes at best 10% of a thread when it comes to bigger name players.

It's largely a waste of time to try and have a sensible discussion in there. That sometimes it actually happens is a triumph of persistence.

arm
06-19-2008, 08:21 PM
and thats because i met him in Miami 07 and thought he was an alright guy :shrug:

Its just his fans and parents and what not that turned me off to him


His fans :bigcry:

prima donna
06-19-2008, 08:22 PM
Well it adds *something* - and sometimes it's fun, but what it largely seems to do is prevent any sort of rational discussion about tennis.

People try to actually discuss a point of tennis - strategy, technique, matchplay, mental strength, whatever - and it just ends up with sloganizing (mug, faker, moonballer, WTA, choker etc etc) and then insults toward the posters, generalisations about fans of one player or another, and an awful lot of gibberish.

You do a match result thread and the actual analysis and discussion of the match features constitutes at best 10% of a thread when it comes to bigger name players.

It's largely a waste of time to try and have a sensible discussion in there. That sometimes it actually happens is a triumph of persistence.

In my modest opinion, you're one of the more objective posters, which is why I've for the most part avoided confrontation with you on the subject of tennis (politics are obviously a different matter), but you're one of the rare few that contributes to the board, although you do seem to get irritated from time to time, especially when it involves Andy Murray.

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2008, 08:24 PM
that's because he was a Djokovic fan till a few months ago

I know. :lol:

Until Faker started gettin' close to the #2... :p

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:25 PM
In my modest opinion, you're one of the more objective posters, which is why I've for the most part avoided confrontation with you on the subject of tennis (politics are obviously a different matter), but you're one of the rare few that contributes to the board, although you do seem to get irritated from time to time, especially when it involves Andy Murray.
What's the point of politics if you can't argue about it, eh? :)

But yes - though I do get a bit irritated over the Murray nonsense that goes on from time to time, I try to keep it civil with people.

I don't come here to exchange insults with people.

I can do that with my boyfriend and he's usually wittier in his comebacks too.

l_mac
06-19-2008, 08:28 PM
Well it adds *something* - and sometimes it's fun, but what it largely seems to do is prevent any sort of rational discussion about tennis.

People try to actually discuss a point of tennis - strategy, technique, matchplay, mental strength, whatever - and it just ends up with sloganizing (mug, faker, moonballer, WTA, choker etc etc) and then insults toward the posters, generalisations about fans of one player or another, and an awful lot of gibberish.

You do a match result thread and the actual analysis and discussion of the match features constitutes at best 10% of a thread when it comes to bigger name players.

It's largely a waste of time to try and have a sensible discussion in there. That sometimes it actually happens is a triumph of persistence.

The match threads aren't the worst. It is easy enough just to ignore the posts that are pure trolling (unless you are in the mood for some back and forth) That's what I try and do.

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2008, 08:29 PM
Scoobs can't take the fact that Murray is a bottler. :p

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:32 PM
Scoobs can't take the fact that Murray is a bottler. :p
:lol: Oh don't start :)

GlennMirnyi
06-19-2008, 08:35 PM
:lol: Oh don't start :)

:p

shotgun
06-19-2008, 08:35 PM
I see lots of valuable discussion in this thread in the past 2 hours :rolls:This doesn't really fly with me. My parents raised me to take the high road - if someone goes after me, I'll defend myself or ignore it, but insulting someone back is nothing more than fighting fire with fire. Why should someone who is simply responding to an attack be treated any differently than someone who initiates it? It's still an attack. At the high school I went to, if you were involved in a physical fight, you got suspended, whether you started it or not - the rationale is that if you fight back, you're still fighting back. Maybe it's poor logic, but I have no problem whatsoever with people being warned for responding to an insult with another insult. Even if it's just a response, it's still a perpetuation of the attitude and rudeness that pervades GM so badly now. If you're not mature enough to ignore someone who insults you, why should you be spared from a warning too? You seem to be saying that it's normal that someone who feels insulted would always respond with an insult and I don't buy that at all. I think it's funny when people insult me on here, when I don't insult back, I think it makes the person doing it look even worse - why would I want to stoop to that kind of level?

No, there definitely should be a difference of treatment in my views. For example, Clydey gets banned, and I get a warning. Or Clydey gets a formal warning, and I get a PM from a mod saying I shouldn't react to such insults. Bottom line is, they should be cutting the problem in its roots, warning people for reacting won't be fair and will only worsen the atmosphere. I agree, it's not the higher road (and I know well when to take it, but this is a freaking tennis message board, not a court of justice), but it has its pros. You let the person know that you didn't "appreciate" the treatment without having to lecture her on respect (it might be easy for someone like you who can write long posts fast, but not for me and some people are just not worth my time), and you'll have no regrets in the future for keeping the annoyance to yourself. And I never said there's a norm, people react in different ways, and like you said not everyone can be as mature as you the whole time.

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:43 PM
:p
I shouldn't like you, but I do.

tennizen
06-19-2008, 08:46 PM
OMG the love fest between scoobs and Glenn:rolleyes::lol:

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:48 PM
OMG the love fest between scoobs and Glenn:rolleyes::lol:
Oh behave :lol:

scarecrows
06-19-2008, 08:50 PM
OMG the love fest between scoobs and Glenn:rolleyes::lol:

it started long ago when Gu was banned

tennizen
06-19-2008, 08:55 PM
it started long ago when Gu was banned

It wasn't just scoobs I guess, I read the petition. Gu has a lot of fanboys here:lol:

scoobs
06-19-2008, 08:55 PM
it started long ago when Gu was banned
Oh give over - I just said I thought the ban was harsh, that's all.

In spite of him being a complete bitch to me in GM, I might add.

elessar
06-19-2008, 09:18 PM
Claire is a better Fakerfighter than you are, Jonathan. Sorry. :p
So true :worship: :hug:
Alright then, take her :o
:rocker2:
elessar? She rarely fights against Djoko anymore because she wants everyone to like her. It's disappointing :sad:

:lol:
Attention whore :rolleyes:

:rolls:

l_mac
06-19-2008, 09:33 PM
:lol:
Attention whore :rolleyes:

:rolls:

No attempt at a denial :D

elessar
06-19-2008, 09:37 PM
No attempt at a denial :D
I could say the same to you :D

l_mac
06-19-2008, 09:42 PM
I could say the same to you :D

What? :)

elessar
06-19-2008, 09:45 PM
What? :)

I don't remember you denying being an attention whore
:angel: :wavey:

l_mac
06-19-2008, 09:49 PM
I don't remember you denying being an attention whore
:angel: :wavey:

Sorry, I thought you were correcting me. I thought that rather than seeing yourself as an ass kisser (as I do) you see yourself as an attention whore (I concur, but feel the ass kissing is your predominant trait)

:)

Did you just call me a whore? I will report you. I find that highly offensive.

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 09:57 PM
You're both whores :cool: (I remember stories)

Now please don't report me :wavey:

l_mac
06-19-2008, 09:59 PM
You're both whores :cool: (I remember stories)

Now please don't report me :wavey:

Jordan. That's disgraceful.

Don't you have anything to say about RL? He/she edits your posts everyday. Your every post in fact.

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 10:01 PM
Jordan. That's disgraceful.

Don't you have anything to say about RL? He/she edits your posts everyday. Your every post in fact.

Yes. As I said before in the gender discussion, I do believe RagingMod is some sort of mutant figure rather than boy or girl.

l_mac
06-19-2008, 10:04 PM
Yes. As I said before in the gender discussion, I do believe RagingMod is some sort of mutant figure rather than boy or girl.

Like ... a Dolly the sheep clone gone horribly wrong?

J/K RagingLamb :hug:

elessar
06-19-2008, 10:06 PM
Jordan. That's disgraceful.

Exactly :( On behalf of every female poster on this board I'd like to say how offended I am by this !

Come on Linda let's get out of here, we're better than this, let's not stoop to his level:hug:

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 10:08 PM
Like ... a Dolly the sheep clone gone horribly wrong?

J/K RagingLamb :hug:

I was gonna say no but I just looked at RagingLamb's name and I think I agree with you.

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 10:08 PM
Exactly :( On behalf of every female poster on this board I'd like to say how offended I am by this !

Come on Linda let's get out of here, we're better than this, let's not stoop to his level:hug:

What? You suck? Come on man?

elessar
06-19-2008, 10:17 PM
What? You suck? Come on man?

First you call me a whore and now you're telling me I suck :(
Have you absolutely no respect for females, you pig :mad:

l_mac
06-19-2008, 10:18 PM
Exactly :( On behalf of every female poster on this board I'd like to say how offended I am by this !

Come on Linda let's get out of here, we're better than this, let's not stoop to his level:hug:
11 minutes later:
First you call me a whore and now you're telling me I suck :(
Have you absolutely no respect for females, you pig :mad:

(It only works if you actually leave :()

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 10:19 PM
First you call me a whore and now you're telling me I suck :(
Have you absolutely no respect for females, you pig :mad:

Don't you dare call me Rafael Nadal :mad:

scarecrows
06-19-2008, 10:23 PM
First you call me a whore and now you're telling me I suck :(


he was actually asking if you suck :shrug:

l_mac
06-19-2008, 10:26 PM
Guys, this could work as a good example of how to settle petty disputes civilly without resorting to name calling.

Now, we have agreed that elessar is an ass kisser and she is sorry for suggesting I am an attention seeker (we will not use that offensive word) so next steps:

Jordan? Anything you can say to resolve this before it gets out of hand?

TMJordan
06-19-2008, 10:27 PM
Simple way to resolve this problem.

I replace RagingLamb as a mod.

Mimi
06-20-2008, 01:43 AM
relax people, this is just a mesage board, don't take things too seriously :angel:

clay death: created too many threads which are of similar contents, but i do think he is not bad, just a bit too passionate about rafa ;)

raging lamb: from what i read, he may be a bit strict, but please understand his situation, its not an easy job to do and he did not benefit from this job but instead spending his valuable time on it :shrug:

GlennMirnyi
06-20-2008, 01:45 AM
Jordan, you're a mug, man.

GlennMirnyi
06-20-2008, 01:49 AM
I shouldn't like you, but I do.

Awwwww. :hug:

OMG the love fest between scoobs and Glenn:rolleyes::lol:

You jealous? :p

It wasn't just scoobs I guess, I read the petition. Gu has a lot of fanboys here:lol:

I represent sexiness in MTF as Steps represents in the ATP. ;)

Lee
06-20-2008, 03:47 AM
.
Some member was banned coz he dare to put one picture/photo in 'funny pics' - most of you remembered pic with 4 female bottoms (porn he/she said!!!), but he/she never see worse things.

No doubles, triples standards around GM.

If I remember correctly, the member complained about being banned for that and then later, after communicating with moderators, admitted it's a misunderstanding.

That's why moderators have endlessly asked and also noted in the "rule book" that if you have any problem, PM moderators.

I'm pretty new to this forum and didn't know the mods edited posts. He11, that explains some things. I've looked back and some of my posts and thought, That's not what I said. Have been on plenty of forums, and dealt with deletions and closing of threads, but never saw posts edited..
Now you get to wonder, did I really write the above or not..

If your post is edited by moderators, you can see who and when it's edited.

habibko
06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
this has got to be the most entertaining thread in all MTF

Denaon
06-20-2008, 03:31 PM
I think we should have rotative Mods...every now and then have an election and vote!! :rocker:
MTF needs democracy!!!!

Naide
06-20-2008, 06:25 PM
Don't you dare call me Rafael Nadal :mad:
:confused:
Simple way to resolve this problem.

I replace RagingLamb as a mod.

Finally some sense here.

jayjay
06-21-2008, 01:10 AM
OMG the love fest between scoobs and Glenn:rolleyes:

That's what I was thinking. Pretty fucking pathetic. Alot of people in this thread need a slap.

GlennMirnyi
06-21-2008, 05:13 AM
That's what I was thinking. Pretty fucking pathetic. Alot of people in this thread need a slap.

There's love for you too, JJ. :D :p

zethand
06-21-2008, 03:01 PM
Can we know who banned users? I mean.. if you are banned, can you know who did it? I was banned at the begining of the year because I said "I wish Hewitt dies" (obviously I did not know Djokovic very well) anyway, without a warning someone banned me. Who did it? and for what reason, I am not insulting anyone, I just say that I wish Hewitt dies, I was just expressing my wishes here. Of course I expected some bad rep from Hewitts fan but a ban? come on! There are more repulsive, vulgar, unsense comments on this board that mine.
I like Kiefer but I wont tell he is a sweet and the perfect guy, he has tons of defects and there are many people who hate him, go ahead and hate him. I do not care, he is not my family, not related to me and certainly he can defend himself, and he would if he cares, he doesnt need me.

What I think, it's many people here is really biased. How do you choose the moderators? You just pick the people who dont have anything to do but being here? Why the person that is mentioned here has not come and give us her/his comments? Coward behavior!

GlennMirnyi
06-21-2008, 03:19 PM
Wishing death on someone isn't light.

Only the supermods can ban you and when they decide it, it's discussed, so there's not a single mod banning you. The team of supermods bans you.

Johnny Groove
06-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Can we know who banned users? I mean.. if you are banned, can you know who did it? I was banned at the begining of the year because I said "I wish Hewitt dies" (obviously I did not know Djokovic very well) anyway, without a warning someone banned me. Who did it? and for what reason, I am not insulting anyone, I just say that I wish Hewitt dies, I was just expressing my wishes here. Of course I expected some bad rep from Hewitts fan but a ban? come on! There are more repulsive, vulgar, unsense comments on this board that mine.
I like Kiefer but I wont tell he is a sweet and the perfect guy, he has tons of defects and there are many people who hate him, go ahead and hate him. I do not care, he is not my family, not related to me and certainly he can defend himself, and he would if he cares, he doesnt need me.

What I think, it's many people here is really biased. How do you choose the moderators? You just pick the people who dont have anything to do but being here? Why the person that is mentioned here has not come and give us her/his comments? Coward behavior!

I really don't think you can get any more vulgar or repulsive than wishing death on someone

zethand
06-21-2008, 03:42 PM
Wishing death on someone isn't light.

Only the supermods can ban you and when they decide it, it's discussed, so there's not a single mod banning you. The team of supermods bans you.

Glenn,

So I supermod banned me eh!! Good to know!

They banned me from a day to another.. it was a matter of hours... Let's say, I wrote that at 11.00 am and by 2.00 pm I was banned. I do not think they discussed anything. I do not even think someone reported me. The strange thing is I have said that before and nobody cared. This is absurd. They do not make a uniform judge.. They just ban because they are fans of Nadal, Hewitt, Federer etc...

We need people with common sense, who can make the distintion. It's like in soccer, you need to know when to show the yellow and the red card. I think I deserved a yellow card not a red one :angel:

GlennMirnyi
06-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Glenn,

So I supermod banned me eh!! Good to know!

They banned me from a day to another.. it was a matter of hours... Let's say, I wrote that at 11.00 am and by 2.00 pm I was banned. I do not think they discussed anything. I do not even think someone reported me. The strange thing is I have said that before and nobody cared. This is absurd. They do not make a uniform judge.. They just ban because they are fans of Nadal, Hewitt, Federer etc...

We need people with common sense, who can make the distintion. It's like in soccer, you need to know when to show the yellow and the red card. I think I deserved a yellow card not a red one :angel:

Depends mate. In football if you punch someone you get a straight red card. I believe that the mods have a certain policy towards some posts that may include a straight-out banning.

About the supermods, I think that some of them are very nice and are not biased at all.

Ivanatis
06-21-2008, 04:17 PM
We need people with common sense, who can make the distintion. It's like in soccer, you need to know when to show the yellow and the red card. I think I deserved a yellow card not a red one :angel:

Maybe you should get some common sense first.

Had I posted some pathetic and offensive stuff like that on several occasions, I would be glad still to be here and not complaining...

Too bad you didn't get a permanent ban as I would have preferred not to read the stuff written above.

Matt01
06-21-2008, 06:53 PM
I really don't think you can get any more vulgar or repulsive than wishing death on someone


Exactly.
A non-permanent ban for that was already very generous from the super mods/admins IMO.

GlennMirnyi
06-21-2008, 06:56 PM
I won't defend the death wishes, but an idiot like Clown Death, offending just about everybody in MTF in every thread and trolling non-stop is much worse.

Jelena
06-22-2008, 03:23 PM
Can we know who banned users? I mean.. if you are banned, can you know who did it? I was banned at the begining of the year because I said "I wish Hewitt dies" (obviously I did not know Djokovic very well) anyway, without a warning someone banned me. Who did it? and for what reason, I am not insulting anyone, I just say that I wish Hewitt dies, I was just expressing my wishes here. Of course I expected some bad rep from Hewitts fan but a ban? come on! There are more repulsive, vulgar, unsense comments on this board that mine.
I like Kiefer but I wont tell he is a sweet and the perfect guy, he has tons of defects and there are many people who hate him, go ahead and hate him. I do not care, he is not my family, not related to me and certainly he can defend himself, and he would if he cares, he doesnt need me.

What I think, it's many people here is really biased. How do you choose the moderators? You just pick the people who dont have anything to do but being here? Why the person that is mentioned here has not come and give us her/his comments? Coward behavior!
As far as I remember there is the rule, when a user says about someone (not important if a player or another user of the forum) he should be dead a ban is the consequence. And you just did that by saying "I wish he was dead".
They banned me from a day to another.. it was a matter of hours... Let's say, I wrote that at 11.00 am and by 2.00 pm I was banned. I do not think they discussed anything. I do not even think someone reported me.
As I said there is the rule and to be honest because of the rule you can be happy to be here again. :wavey:

Mimi
06-23-2008, 01:42 AM
is clay death banned? didn't see him posting any more :confused:

Johnny Groove
06-23-2008, 02:45 AM
CD is banned for a month :eek:

Mimi
06-23-2008, 03:05 AM
:sad:CD is banned for a month :eek:

TMJordan
06-23-2008, 04:50 AM
Clay Death did not do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve this ban. Come on mods. Just because he was saying a certin mod which 90% of MTF thinks shouldn't be a mod is doing a crap job doesn't justify a ban. Some people think he posts bullshit but I disagree there are much worse posters that should be banned over him. He may go a little over the top sometimes but thats his style.

Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.

Action Jackson
06-23-2008, 05:53 AM
Clay Death did not do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve this ban. Come on mods. Just because he was saying a certin mod which 90% of MTF thinks shouldn't be a mod is doing a crap job doesn't justify a ban. Some people think he posts bullshit but I disagree there are much worse posters that should be banned over him. He may go a little over the top sometimes but thats his style.

Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.

Well said Mug King.

habibko
06-23-2008, 06:06 AM
Clay Death shall be missed :sad: :sad: :sad:

until he returns.. pray for death :lol:

Mimi
06-23-2008, 06:23 AM
agreed with you, he is a bit annoying but funny too, he does not deserve this ban, even if he has to get a ban, just one week is enough :mad:
Clay Death did not do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve this ban. Come on mods. Just because he was saying a certin mod which 90% of MTF thinks shouldn't be a mod is doing a crap job doesn't justify a ban. Some people think he posts bullshit but I disagree there are much worse posters that should be banned over him. He may go a little over the top sometimes but thats his style.

Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.

Matt01
06-23-2008, 12:57 PM
agreed with you, he is a bit annoying but funny too, he does not deserve this ban,


He does.

scoobs
06-23-2008, 10:02 PM
This ban doesn't surprise me - whether you think you have a point or not, starting threads in GM slagging off a mod by name ain't the way to register your concerns.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 02:21 AM
Clay Death did not do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve this ban. Come on mods. Just because he was saying a certin mod which 90% of MTF thinks shouldn't be a mod is doing a crap job doesn't justify a ban. Some people think he posts bullshit but I disagree there are much worse posters that should be banned over him. He may go a little over the top sometimes but thats his style.

Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.

He trolled in GM 24-7. I'm glad that clown is gone.

Action Jackson
06-24-2008, 04:16 AM
He trolled in GM 24-7. I'm glad that clown is gone.

Affirmative.

Mimi
06-24-2008, 04:44 AM
i guess he won't return :wavey::sad:
Clay Death shall be missed :sad: :sad: :sad:

until he returns.. pray for death :lol:

Ariadne
06-24-2008, 04:59 AM
i guess he won't return :wavey::sad:

:D Let's hope so! Alas, I sense that is wishful thinking on my part though! People like him, RFK and numerous others NEED to troll to give some measure of meaning and a reified existence to their sad, lonely, empty lives. :sad:

arm
06-24-2008, 05:12 PM
Clay Death did not do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve this ban. Come on mods. Just because he was saying a certin mod which 90% of MTF thinks shouldn't be a mod is doing a crap job doesn't justify a ban. Some people think he posts bullshit but I disagree there are much worse posters that should be banned over him. He may go a little over the top sometimes but thats his style.

Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.

He can be annoying sometimes, but I agree with Jordan: there are far worse posters around.

shotgun
06-24-2008, 07:29 PM
You gotta love MTF. Most people complained about Clay Death and asked for his ban, and now that he's banned, people start saying it was a bad decision and ask for the ban to be lifted. I guess mods can never make people happy here.

cobalt60
06-24-2008, 07:47 PM
You gotta love MTF. Most people complained about Clay Death and asked for his ban, and now that he's banned, people start saying it was a bad decision and ask for the ban to be lifted. I guess mods can never make people happy here.

Well you aren't surprised are you? ;) It remains a thankless job and how any of you do it is beyond me. I will never forget my response when I turned it down originally- "no thanks; I already have children" :p
One does the best one can and then one gets burn out;)

Nathaliia
06-24-2008, 08:22 PM
He overtrolled and it was a good decision.

arm
06-24-2008, 09:55 PM
You gotta love MTF. Most people complained about Clay Death and asked for his ban, and now that he's banned, people start saying it was a bad decision and ask for the ban to be lifted. I guess mods can never make people happy here.

I am sure you never heard me say that.

l_mac
06-24-2008, 10:07 PM
It was the right decision. He's had plenty of warnings for any number of MTF crimes.

The sad thing is we will miss his scrambling for excuses when Federer inevitably wins his 6th Wimbledon title. That would have been the only silver lining to that particular dark cloud.

arm
06-25-2008, 10:29 AM
It was the right decision. He's had plenty of warnings for any number of MTF crimes.


I accept that some people may think that. But to be honest, I think there are far worse posters who do far worse things and never get warned. :shrug. The only thing I would accuse him of is being a silly. :silly: :lol:

The sad thing is we will miss his scrambling for excuses when Federer inevitably wins his 6th Wimbledon title. That would have been the only silver lining to that particular dark cloud.[/

That's true. :lol: :yeah:

Chiseller
06-25-2008, 01:28 PM
I think 95% of MTF probably agreed with him,


You cannot be serious.

scarecrows
06-25-2008, 05:04 PM
mug Clay Death banned? great job supermods :yeah: should have been longer than 1 month

Snowwy
06-25-2008, 05:21 PM
You cannot be serious.

With regards to this topic, not in general ;)

Marek.
06-26-2008, 01:22 AM
Great news.

Mimi
07-09-2008, 09:33 AM
seems that clay deatb predicted rafa to win wimby? he was right, would he be back :confused::p

Mimi
07-09-2008, 09:35 AM
forgot to attach his post
he might lose some sets in the earlier rounds as he gets acclimated to the surface and the conditions but once he gets past his first 4 matches, he is going to be brutal. its going to be lights out in the quarters, semis, and the finals.

he will derail Djokovic in 4 in the final.

to answer your question, he may lose a total of 3-4 sets. he is playing a little differently this year. he is not giving them a much of a chance. Clay Monster of 2007 struggled here but not this year. this year he leaves nothing to chance. he wants nothing less than a clinical destruction of the opposition.

Memo to the opposition: Pray for death. it comes your way soon.

Sunset of Age
07-09-2008, 05:38 PM
forgot to attach his post

I didn't see Djoko in that final, though. :p

Manon
07-09-2008, 11:04 PM
I didn't see Djoko in that final, though. :p

Hum...(what can I do to her)....Carin, you owe me double cheeseburger for this pain:angel:

Mimi
07-10-2008, 02:06 AM
Karin, he posted it before the draw, so he did not know Novak would be in the same draw as rafa :p
I didn't see Djoko in that final, though. :p

Mimi
07-10-2008, 02:07 AM
don't worry, novak has lots of time on his side:hug::smooch:

you are like my evil boss, who eats hamburgers all the times :secret:

Hum...(what can I do to her)....Carin, you owe me double cheeseburger for this pain:angel:

Mimi
07-21-2008, 02:26 AM
Clay Death is supposed to be "free" today :confused:, will he post again? :yippee:

habibko
07-21-2008, 07:05 AM
Clay Death is supposed to be "free" today :confused:, will he post again? :yippee:

he told me he will ;)

Mimi
07-21-2008, 07:37 AM
:hug::yippee: pray for death already :nerner:
he told me he will ;)

Knightmace
07-23-2008, 05:08 AM
Totally diferent people agreed? That means something.

Hypocrite at it's best.

If I'm allowed to make a wish it would be Eden.
Concur

Neely
07-25-2008, 08:15 PM
Speaking of bans, I miss Sixpack, what ever happened to him? He was a great poster and didn't do anything to get banned.
BTW, I couldn't find any records about him ever getting banned. I can say for 100% sureness that he is a normal member at the member which would be allowed to post if he wanted.

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2008, 09:57 PM
I was hoping that Raginglamb or whatever the heck it is would hit me back in regards to whether or not it's okay to replace my use of "retard" with merely using the highly inoffensive, not even remotely derogatory "retard" smiley. Sadly, a response doesn't seem to be forthcoming.

Neely
08-03-2008, 02:29 AM
I was hoping that Raginglamb or whatever the heck it is would hit me back in regards to whether or not it's okay to replace my use of "retard" with merely using the highly inoffensive, not even remotely derogatory "retard" smiley. Sadly, a response doesn't seem to be forthcoming.
If you worded the private message in the same way like this post, I wouldn't hold it against him at all if he read and ignored (maybe he is just offline now and/or wanted to do it later? the case you are talking about is just a few hours ago...) it because there is not much more to say, let alone that you seem to have an honest intention discussing this matter which was BTW a bagatelle in the big ocean of things which are encountered every day on GM; and accordingly was RagingLamb's message to you. A warning (not infraction) with a friendly tone.

Chloe le Bopper
08-03-2008, 03:07 AM
There is nothing wrong with the wording of my post. It's honest and fair, and not even remotely kiss-ass. Perhaps the latter part is the issue? I suspect yes.

Your post has failed to answer my question; a valid question, as if it's seeking clarification on what exactly qualifies as acceptable behaviour. Just because I failed to write in in such a way that licks the inner crevices of MTF administrations ass, doesn't mean that it's not worthy of a response.

Neely
08-03-2008, 03:17 AM
You misunderstood, it doesn't have to be in an asslicking way. It just came accross to me as if there was plenty of an ironic and sarcastic subtone in it, paired with a relatively easy question to answer.

So you want an honest answer for this question? It would be that the use of the retard smiley is okay. Of course. Should you ever get a warning or even worse, an infraction, for using the retard smiley (no overuse to qualify as spamming or other forum disruptions) I will reverse it personally if you let me know about this.

Chloe le Bopper
08-03-2008, 03:19 AM
Of course it was meant to be ironic/sarcastic - the mere premise that one of these things is okay and the other isn't is laughable ridiculous.

But, thanks for the response.

Next time I will substitute the "retard" smiley in, when it's clear as day that I'm still calling somebody a "retard", and know that MTF not only fully supports this kind of attack, but fully supports my use of "retard" in a derogatory fashion :D

Neely
08-03-2008, 03:34 AM
There are many other ways to disagree with somebody than saying asshole, retard, whatever you like.

As I said, it was a bagatelle issue anyway.

Chloe le Bopper
08-03-2008, 07:56 AM
It was, but it led me to wonder what other "bagatelle issues" might be considered offensive enough for Raginglamb to flex his moderatorial muscles.

And yes, there are certainly other ways to disagree with somebody than to use simple one-word name calling. I'm regularly, infinitely more offensive than that.

Regardless, I have my answer: should I ever feel the desire to write something like, "poster A is a total :retard:", it's okay. While this is silly, contradictory, and a lot of other things, it is what it is, so I shall abide by it.

Thank for clarification on the matter.

Neely
08-03-2008, 01:25 PM
It was, but it led me to wonder what other "bagatelle issues" might be considered offensive enough for Raginglamb to flex his moderatorial muscles.
He hardly did anything, all he did was sending you a friendly message. If you feel wrongly accused or if you think that's too much, then I can't comment any further on it.

Neely
08-03-2008, 03:04 PM
Regardless, I have my answer: should I ever feel the desire to write something like, "poster A is a total :retard:", it's okay. While this is silly, contradictory, and a lot of other things, it is what it is, so I shall abide by it.
You are right with this! I'm glad you wrote this and that other people read it and gave me a hint that this is indeed silly, confusing and contradictory, and that a smiley shouldn't be misused as an exempt from any consequences when insulting a user. So in other words, I'm withdrawing my earlier statement from above, and from now on let's assume that "you are retard" and "you are a :retard: " is initially the same level. That you may disagree with a user's viewpoint and think the viewpoint is retarded, remains unaffected from this. (I was only referring to it directed at the user personally.)

Sorry for the confusion and I hope this is clear and gives you a better answer now!

Chloe le Bopper
08-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Thank you.